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  1. #1
    Tarpon Guest

    Default pectin - Certo

    Hi All,
    I'm going to try and make hot pepper jelly. I've never done this
    before and the use of pectin is causing me some head scratching. I
    hope that some of you may be able to help with my questions.

    1. I've a recipe that calls for 6 oz of pectin. Are liquid and
    powdered pectin equivalent, 6 oz of either?
    2. Is there a formula that tells you how much pectin to use? Say if I
    have total of 8 cups of peppers, water and sugar I need "x" grams of
    pectin?

    Any help or guidance is appreciated. (I've got lots of hot peppers in
    my garden to use :-))

    John

  2. #2
    Ms P Guest

    Default Re: pectin - Certo


    "Tarpon" <jd_[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Hi All,
    > I'm going to try and make hot pepper jelly. I've never done this
    > before and the use of pectin is causing me some head scratching. I
    > hope that some of you may be able to help with my questions.
    >
    > 1. I've a recipe that calls for 6 oz of pectin. Are liquid and
    > powdered pectin equivalent, 6 oz of either?
    > 2. Is there a formula that tells you how much pectin to use? Say if I
    > have total of 8 cups of peppers, water and sugar I need "x" grams of
    > pectin?
    >
    > Any help or guidance is appreciated. (I've got lots of hot peppers in
    > my garden to use :-))
    >
    > John


    Pectin is pectin. But the method used for powdered and liquid pectin
    differs. Follow the instructions to the letter for the type of pectin you
    have and the recipe specifies.

    Yes, there are formulas that tell you how much pectin to use. They're
    called recipes. Find one and follow it.

    Ms P


  3. #3
    Melba's Jammin' Guest

    Default Re: pectin - Certo

    In article
    <[email protected]>,
    Tarpon <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Hi All,
    > I'm going to try and make hot pepper jelly. I've never done this
    > before and the use of pectin is causing me some head scratching. I
    > hope that some of you may be able to help with my questions.
    >
    > 1. I've a recipe that calls for 6 oz of pectin. Are liquid and
    > powdered pectin equivalent, 6 oz of either?


    They are not the same and they cannot be swapped out willy-nilly.

    **They are not used in the same way.**



    > 2. Is there a formula that tells you how much pectin to use? Say if I
    > have total of 8 cups of peppers, water and sugar I need "x" grams of
    > pectin?


    No. A tested recipe is your formula. You can alter the type of pepper
    you use depending on your desired heat level. If you've never canned
    before, stick with a reliable recipe and follow it to the letter.
    Here's a recipe from the Kraft site using Certo liquid fruit pectin
    (made by Kraft):

    http://www.kraftfoods.com/kf/recipes...lly-51862.aspx
    There are other pepper jelly recipes on the site.

    This recipe is from the Ball Blue Book, often referred to as the
    canner's bible:
    http://www.recipezaar.com/312033

    If your "total of 8 cups of peppers, water and sugar" are improperly
    distributed, you will not have jam or jelly at the end of it. (And you
    need vinegar in that recipe, by the way.)
    >
    > Any help or guidance is appreciated. (I've got lots of hot peppers in
    > my garden to use :-))
    >
    > John


    Ask your questions on rec.food.preserving, John. It's the proper place
    for preserving information. Lots of knowledgeable and experienced
    posters there. Helpful, too.

    --
    -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
    http://web.mac.com/barbschaller, and here's the link to my appearance
    on "A Prairie Home Companion," <http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/
    programs/2008/08/30/>

  4. #4
    Melba's Jammin' Guest

    Default Re: pectin - Certo

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Ms P" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Tarpon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hi All,
    > > I'm going to try and make hot pepper jelly. I've never done this
    > > before and the use of pectin is causing me some head scratching. I
    > > hope that some of you may be able to help with my questions.
    > >
    > > 1. I've a recipe that calls for 6 oz of pectin. Are liquid and
    > > powdered pectin equivalent, 6 oz of either?
    > > 2. Is there a formula that tells you how much pectin to use? Say if I
    > > have total of 8 cups of peppers, water and sugar I need "x" grams of
    > > pectin?
    > >
    > > Any help or guidance is appreciated. (I've got lots of hot peppers in
    > > my garden to use :-))
    > >
    > > John

    >
    > Pectin is pectin. But the method used for powdered and liquid pectin
    > differs. Follow the instructions to the letter for the type of pectin you
    > have and the recipe specifies.
    >
    > Yes, there are formulas that tell you how much pectin to use. They're
    > called recipes. Find one and follow it.
    >
    > Ms P


    Not all pectins are the same, Ms P, and 6 ounces of liquid pectin cannot
    be swapped out with 6 ounces of powder pectin, assuming all other
    ingredients remain the same.

    John is better off to inquire at rec.food.preserving.

    --
    -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
    http://web.mac.com/barbschaller, and here's the link to my appearance
    on "A Prairie Home Companion," <http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/
    programs/2008/08/30/>

  5. #5
    Tarpon Guest

    Default Re: pectin - Certo

    On Sep 18, 9:56*am, Melba's Jammin' <barbschal...@earthlink.net>
    wrote:
    > In article
    > <ead1014e-e0c0-452e-b837-a713ba301...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
    >
    > *Tarpon <jd_um_ho...@rogers.com> wrote:
    > > Hi All,
    > > I'm going to try and make hot pepper jelly. I've never done this
    > > before and the use of pectin is causing me some head scratching. I
    > > hope that some of you may be able to help with my questions.

    >
    > > 1. I've a recipe that calls for 6 oz of pectin. Are liquid and
    > > powdered pectin equivalent, 6 oz of either?

    >
    > They are not the same and they cannot be swapped out willy-nilly.
    >
    > ***They are not used in the same way.**
    >
    > > 2. Is there a formula that tells you how much pectin to use? Say if I
    > > have total of 8 cups of peppers, water and sugar I need "x" grams of
    > > pectin?

    >
    > No. *A tested recipe is your formula. *You can alter the type of pepper
    > you use depending on your desired heat level. *If you've never canned
    > before, stick with a reliable recipe and follow it to the letter. *
    > Here's a recipe from the Kraft site using Certo liquid fruit pectin
    > (made by Kraft):
    >
    > http://www.kraftfoods.com/kf/recipes...lly-51862.aspx
    > There are other pepper jelly recipes on the site.
    >
    > This recipe is from the Ball Blue Book, often referred to as the
    > canner's bible:http://www.recipezaar.com/312033
    >
    > If your "total of 8 cups of peppers, water and sugar" are improperly
    > distributed, you will not have jam or jelly at the end of it. *(And you
    > need vinegar in that recipe, by the way.)
    >
    >
    >
    > > Any help or guidance is appreciated. (I've got lots of hot peppers in
    > > my garden to use :-))

    >
    > > John

    >
    > Ask your questions on rec.food.preserving, John. *It's the proper place
    > for preserving information. *Lots of knowledgeable and experienced
    > posters there. * Helpful, too.
    >
    > --
    > -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJhttp://web.mac.com/barbschaller, and here's the link to my appearance
    > on "A Prairie Home Companion," <http://prairiehome.publicradio.org/
    > programs/2008/08/30/>


    Thanks very much for your help. I didn't think to look for a
    "preserving" news group I will check on rec.food.preserving.

    John

  6. #6
    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: pectin - Certo

    Tarpon wrote:
    > Hi All,
    > I'm going to try and make hot pepper jelly. I've never done this
    > before and the use of pectin is causing me some head scratching. I
    > hope that some of you may be able to help with my questions.
    >
    > 1. I've a recipe that calls for 6 oz of pectin. Are liquid and
    > powdered pectin equivalent, 6 oz of either?
    > 2. Is there a formula that tells you how much pectin to use? Say if I
    > have total of 8 cups of peppers, water and sugar I need "x" grams of
    > pectin?
    >
    > Any help or guidance is appreciated. (I've got lots of hot peppers in
    > my garden to use :-))



    Pectin is not something to be afraid of, but IIRC the liquid and
    powdered varieties are used in a slightly different manner. I usually
    use the liquid and, when making fruit jams, it is added to the mixture
    after it has boiled for the requisite period of time for that fruit.
    The recipe that I used for hot red pepper jelly calls for mixture to
    come to a boil, take it off the heat, add the Certo and then return it
    to a boil.

    I would suggest that the recipe is likely written in accordance with a
    tried and tested method, and so the best advice that I can offer is that
    you follow that recipe and use the type and amount of Certo specified.
    After you have made a few batches of jams and jellies and seen how they
    thicken, then you can start altering pectin.


    This is the recipe that I used. It is delicious and FWIW, I see
    absolutely no use for the food colouring.

    Hot Pepper Jelly
    2 to 3 small green bell peppers
    2 (3oz) pouches or 1 (6oz) bottle
    Certo liquid fruit pectin
    3 to 4 hot red or green peppers
    6 1/2 cups sugar
    red or green food coloring (opt)
    1 1/2 cup cider vinegar

    Seed and coarsely chop the bell and hot peppers. Place the bell peppers
    in a blender or food processor and puree' until liquefied. (if needed,
    add 1 tablespoon vinegar to the pepper for easier blending). Puree the
    hot peppers until liquefied. In a large pot, combine the 1 cup of pureed
    peppers with the sugar and vinegar over high heat. Bring to a boil and
    add Certo. Add food coloring (opt). Bring to a boil again and pour jelly
    into pitcher. Pour into 1/2 pints jars and seal. Makes about 7 half pints.


  7. #7
    Ms P Guest

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    "Melba's Jammin'" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Ms P" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> Pectin is pectin. But the method used for powdered and liquid pectin
    >> differs. Follow the instructions to the letter for the type of pectin
    >> you
    >> have and the recipe specifies.
    >>
    >> Yes, there are formulas that tell you how much pectin to use. They're
    >> called recipes. Find one and follow it.
    >>
    >> Ms P

    >
    > Not all pectins are the same, Ms P, and 6 ounces of liquid pectin cannot
    > be swapped out with 6 ounces of powder pectin, assuming all other
    > ingredients remain the same.
    >
    > John is better off to inquire at rec.food.preserving.
    >
    > --
    > -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ



    You swap it for the appropriate amount of pectin and you follow the method
    for whichever pectin you're using. I've swapped powder for liquid in
    several recipes. You do have to have an idea of what you're doing first
    though.

    I've made lots of case of jams and jellies. I've made jelly with Dr Pepper,
    Mt. Dew and wine. I've combined fruits to make jams. It's not like I don't
    know what I'm doing.

    Blackberry-Plum and Cherry-Berry were our favorites, closely followed by
    Cinnamon Pear and Raspberry-Peach. Habanero Peach was also a huge hit.

    Ms P


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