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  1. #1
    Janet Wilder Guest

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    We are still raising a foster kitten. She's about 5 weeks old now and
    doing fabulously well. She'll go to the shelter for shots and a forever
    home next Wednesday.

    This morning our Toy Poodle found three tiny kittens under our
    motorhome. Their eyes were closed. Two were huddled together and the
    third was off to the side.

    We waited several hours to see if the mom would come back, but she did
    not. One of them managed to move out from under the motorhome and was
    exposed. I had to put it in a box and take it into the garage as we
    have a lot of large raptor birds around here. Could not bring it in the
    house and possibly expose the kitten and my dog to any diseases they
    might have had.

    Waited again, but still no mom, so DH moved the motorhome and scooped up
    the other two and took the three of them to the shelter before the fire
    ants found them.

    There was no way I could handle 3 babies of less than a week old. The
    shelter confirmed that they were about 4 days old and put them down. (Of
    course I feel horrible, but I can't handle 3 newborns who would need
    more care than I am capable of giving)

    My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? I tried looking
    on the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer. There are a
    number of cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.
    --
    Janet Wilder
    Way-the-heck-south Texas
    Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

  2. #2
    merryb Guest

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    On May 20, 11:52*am, Janet Wilder <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > We are still raising a foster kitten. *She's about 5 weeks old now and
    > doing fabulously well. She'll go to the shelter for shots and a forever
    > home next Wednesday.
    >
    > This morning our Toy Poodle found three tiny kittens under our
    > motorhome. Their eyes were closed. *Two were huddled together and the
    > third was off to the side.
    >
    > We waited several hours to see if the mom would come back, but she did
    > not. *One of them managed to move out from under the motorhome and was
    > exposed. *I had to put it in a box and take it into the garage as we
    > have a lot of large raptor birds around here. Could not bring it in the
    > house and possibly expose the kitten and my dog to any diseases they
    > might have had.
    >
    > Waited again, but still no mom, so DH moved the motorhome and scooped up
    > the other two and took the three of them to the shelter before the fire
    > ants found them.
    >
    > There was no way I could handle 3 babies of less than a week old. The
    > shelter confirmed that they were about 4 days old and put them down. (Of
    > course I feel horrible, but I can't handle 3 newborns who would need
    > more care than I am capable of giving)
    >
    > My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? *I tried looking
    > on the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer. *There are a
    > number of cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.
    > --
    > Janet Wilder
    > Way-the-heck-south Texas
    > Spelling doesn't count. *Cooking does.


    That's so sad I'd tend to think that something bad happened to
    momma kitty.

  3. #3
    billn Guest

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    "Janet Wilder" wrote:
    >
    >We are still raising a foster kitten. She's about 5 weeks old now and
    >doing fabulously well. She'll go to the shelter for shots and a forever
    >home next Wednesday.
    >
    >This morning our Toy Poodle found three tiny kittens under our motorhome.
    >Their eyes were closed. Two were huddled together and the third was off to
    >the side.
    >
    >We waited several hours to see if the mom would come back, but she did not.
    >One of them managed to move out from under the motorhome and was exposed.
    >I had to put it in a box and take it into the garage as we have a lot of
    >large raptor birds around here. Could not bring it in the house and
    >possibly expose the kitten and my dog to any diseases they might have had.
    >
    >Waited again, but still no mom, so DH moved the motorhome and scooped up
    >the other two and took the three of them to the shelter before the fire
    >ants found them.
    >
    >There was no way I could handle 3 babies of less than a week old. The
    >shelter confirmed that they were about 4 days old and put them down. (Of
    >course I feel horrible, but I can't handle 3 newborns who would need more
    >care than I am capable of giving)
    >
    >My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? I tried looking on
    >the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer. There are a number of
    >cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.


    What a heartbreaking situation, Janet.

    Unfortunately I have no answer, except maybe she was killed somehow. But
    that doesn't answer the question here.

    Sorry,
    --
    bill_n



  4. #4
    Sqwertz Guest

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    On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:52:54 -0500, Janet Wilder wrote:

    > My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? I tried looking
    > on the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer. There are a
    > number of cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.


    Maybe the mother was sick or ran into trouble herself.

    -sw

  5. #5
    Nunya Bidnits Guest

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    Janet Wilder <[email protected]> wrote:
    > We are still raising a foster kitten. She's about 5 weeks old now and
    > doing fabulously well. She'll go to the shelter for shots and a
    > forever home next Wednesday.
    >
    > This morning our Toy Poodle found three tiny kittens under our
    > motorhome. Their eyes were closed. Two were huddled together and the
    > third was off to the side.
    >
    > We waited several hours to see if the mom would come back, but she did
    > not. One of them managed to move out from under the motorhome and was
    > exposed. I had to put it in a box and take it into the garage as we
    > have a lot of large raptor birds around here. Could not bring it in
    > the house and possibly expose the kitten and my dog to any diseases
    > they might have had.
    >
    > Waited again, but still no mom, so DH moved the motorhome and scooped
    > up the other two and took the three of them to the shelter before the
    > fire ants found them.
    >
    > There was no way I could handle 3 babies of less than a week old. The
    > shelter confirmed that they were about 4 days old and put them down.
    > (Of course I feel horrible, but I can't handle 3 newborns who would
    > need more care than I am capable of giving)
    >
    > My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? I tried
    > looking on the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer. There are
    > a number of cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.


    It might be because of the dog. My cat Roscoe came from a feral litter where
    dogs ran the mother off. But they were a little older than four days at the
    time.

    MartyB


  6. #6
    Janet Wilder Guest

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    On 5/20/2013 2:21 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    > Janet Wilder <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> We are still raising a foster kitten. She's about 5 weeks old now and
    >> doing fabulously well. She'll go to the shelter for shots and a
    >> forever home next Wednesday.
    >>
    >> This morning our Toy Poodle found three tiny kittens under our
    >> motorhome. Their eyes were closed. Two were huddled together and the
    >> third was off to the side.
    >>
    >> We waited several hours to see if the mom would come back, but she did
    >> not. One of them managed to move out from under the motorhome and was
    >> exposed. I had to put it in a box and take it into the garage as we
    >> have a lot of large raptor birds around here. Could not bring it in
    >> the house and possibly expose the kitten and my dog to any diseases
    >> they might have had.
    >>
    >> Waited again, but still no mom, so DH moved the motorhome and scooped
    >> up the other two and took the three of them to the shelter before the
    >> fire ants found them.
    >>
    >> There was no way I could handle 3 babies of less than a week old. The
    >> shelter confirmed that they were about 4 days old and put them down.
    >> (Of course I feel horrible, but I can't handle 3 newborns who would
    >> need more care than I am capable of giving)
    >>
    >> My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? I tried
    >> looking on the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer. There
    >> are a number of cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.

    >
    > It might be because of the dog. My cat Roscoe came from a feral litter
    > where dogs ran the mother off. But they were a little older than four
    > days at the time.
    >
    > MartyB


    The kittens still had umbilical cords.

    I don't think it was the dog. He's very small, not much bigger than a cat.

    He loves the kittens we have fostered, and his groomer has a huge cat
    that has the run of the shop, so he knows from cats.

    The way one kitten was a couple of feet away from the other two, leads
    me to believe that the dog didn't run off the mother. She had been gone
    a while for that kitten to have moved on its own. If anything, he
    alerted us to the fact that they were there.

    I still feel awful.

    --
    Janet Wilder
    Way-the-heck-south Texas
    Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

  7. #7
    dsi1 Guest

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    On 5/20/2013 8:52 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
    > We are still raising a foster kitten. She's about 5 weeks old now and
    > doing fabulously well. She'll go to the shelter for shots and a forever
    > home next Wednesday.
    >
    > This morning our Toy Poodle found three tiny kittens under our
    > motorhome. Their eyes were closed. Two were huddled together and the
    > third was off to the side.
    >
    > We waited several hours to see if the mom would come back, but she did
    > not. One of them managed to move out from under the motorhome and was
    > exposed. I had to put it in a box and take it into the garage as we
    > have a lot of large raptor birds around here. Could not bring it in the
    > house and possibly expose the kitten and my dog to any diseases they
    > might have had.
    >
    > Waited again, but still no mom, so DH moved the motorhome and scooped up
    > the other two and took the three of them to the shelter before the fire
    > ants found them.
    >
    > There was no way I could handle 3 babies of less than a week old. The
    > shelter confirmed that they were about 4 days old and put them down. (Of
    > course I feel horrible, but I can't handle 3 newborns who would need
    > more care than I am capable of giving)
    >
    > My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? I tried looking
    > on the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer. There are a
    > number of cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.



    My guess is that the mother most often gets killed by a car - around
    here anyway. My daughter just brought home another baby kitten. That
    thing was just skin and bones. That makes three so far.

    My wife has recommended that she gets rid of the cats because she's
    pregnant. I don't know the details but my understanding is that cats are
    dangerous during a pregnancy. I thought that she understood this and was
    surprised that she brought the cat home with her last night.


  8. #8
    Nunya Bidnits Guest

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    Janet Wilder <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On 5/20/2013 2:21 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >> Janet Wilder <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> We are still raising a foster kitten. She's about 5 weeks old now
    >>> and doing fabulously well. She'll go to the shelter for shots and a
    >>> forever home next Wednesday.
    >>>
    >>> This morning our Toy Poodle found three tiny kittens under our
    >>> motorhome. Their eyes were closed. Two were huddled together and
    >>> the third was off to the side.
    >>>
    >>> We waited several hours to see if the mom would come back, but she
    >>> did not. One of them managed to move out from under the motorhome
    >>> and was exposed. I had to put it in a box and take it into the
    >>> garage as we have a lot of large raptor birds around here. Could
    >>> not bring it in the house and possibly expose the kitten and my dog
    >>> to any diseases they might have had.
    >>>
    >>> Waited again, but still no mom, so DH moved the motorhome and
    >>> scooped up the other two and took the three of them to the shelter
    >>> before the fire ants found them.
    >>>
    >>> There was no way I could handle 3 babies of less than a week old.
    >>> The shelter confirmed that they were about 4 days old and put them
    >>> down. (Of course I feel horrible, but I can't handle 3 newborns who
    >>> would need more care than I am capable of giving)
    >>>
    >>> My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? I tried
    >>> looking on the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer.
    >>> There are a number of cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.

    >>
    >> It might be because of the dog. My cat Roscoe came from a feral
    >> litter where dogs ran the mother off. But they were a little older
    >> than four days at the time.
    >>
    >> MartyB

    >
    > The kittens still had umbilical cords.
    >
    > I don't think it was the dog. He's very small, not much bigger than
    > a cat.
    > He loves the kittens we have fostered, and his groomer has a huge cat
    > that has the run of the shop, so he knows from cats.
    >
    > The way one kitten was a couple of feet away from the other two, leads
    > me to believe that the dog didn't run off the mother. She had been
    > gone a while for that kitten to have moved on its own. If anything, he
    > alerted us to the fact that they were there.
    >
    > I still feel awful.


    Well there's nothing you could have done about it. They would probably have
    starved to death if not put down. And if the mother is feral something could
    have happened to her or she could have been scared away by any number of
    things, or perhaps she was starving and couldn't feed them. Ferals are very
    skittish and unpredictable.

    MartyB


  9. #9
    George Leppla Guest

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    On 5/20/2013 2:38 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
    > The kittens still had umbilical cords.
    >
    > I don't think it was the dog. He's very small, not much bigger than a cat.
    >
    > He loves the kittens we have fostered, and his groomer has a huge cat
    > that has the run of the shop, so he knows from cats.
    >
    > The way one kitten was a couple of feet away from the other two, leads
    > me to believe that the dog didn't run off the mother. She had been gone
    > a while for that kitten to have moved on its own. If anything, he
    > alerted us to the fact that they were there.
    >
    > I still feel awful.



    I wouldn't feel awful. You did what you could. In the grand scheme of
    things, you do infinitely more good for the critters than most people.

    For a Mother to abandon a litter usually means illness or predators or
    other misfortune. These little ones probably never had a chance.

    We concentrate and are glad about the one we can save and not dwell on
    the ones we can't. Sometimes, that is the best you can do.

    George L


  10. #10
    Brooklyn1 Guest

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    merryb wrote:
    >Janet Wilder wrote:
    >>
    >> This morning our Toy Poodle found three tiny kittens under our
    >> motorhome. Their eyes were closed. *Two were huddled together and the
    >> third was off to the side.
    >>
    >> We waited several hours to see if the mom would come back, but she did
    >> not. *One of them managed to move out from under the motorhome and was
    >> exposed. *I had to put it in a box and take it into the garage as we
    >> have a lot of large raptor birds around here. Could not bring it in the
    >> house and possibly expose the kitten and my dog to any diseases they
    >> might have had.
    >>
    >> Waited again, but still no mom, so DH moved the motorhome and scooped up
    >> the other two and took the three of them to the shelter before the fire
    >> ants found them.
    >>
    >> There was no way I could handle 3 babies of less than a week old. The
    >> shelter confirmed that they were about 4 days old and put them down. (Of
    >> course I feel horrible, but I can't handle 3 newborns who would need
    >> more care than I am capable of giving)
    >>
    >> My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? *I tried looking
    >> on the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer. *There are a
    >> number of cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.

    >
    >That's so sad I'd tend to think that something bad happened to
    >momma kitty.


    There could be many reasons a mother cat leaves her kittens but most
    often it's because it's a first litter and she's too young (less than
    a year). Jack and Jill's mother abandoned them under a shrub in my
    yard because she was too young... she was found a few days later and I
    found her a home. She had four kittens, two were already dead and
    Jack and Jill were darn close but with care they were nursed back to
    health. Peach and Blackie were found in a plastic bag in a Manhattan
    trash can in mid winter, almost frozen... they were only a few hours
    old but with care they were nursed to health. Right now I am caring
    for three barn kittens because their mother quit nursing them at three
    weeks old, they never would have survived on thieir own. And at the
    same time Peach is very sick now with a serious upper respiratory
    viral infection... was close to putting her down but now she's very
    slowly recovering... not out of the woods yet but hoping. It's not
    difficult to care for three newborn kittens, three are as easy as
    one... It's pretty heartless having them euthanized... I would have
    definitely kept them. All that's needed as far as space is a large
    canvas tote bag filled with lots of old towels to use as a nursery,
    and it costs next to nothing to feed them.
    Jack and Jill's nursery:
    http://i43.tinypic.com/73cl1l.jpg
    Only the most heartless would bring them to a shelter to die:
    http://i40.tinypic.com/2dk0fnm.jpg




  11. #11
    Janet Wilder Guest

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    On 5/20/2013 2:58 PM, dsi1 wrote:
    > On 5/20/2013 8:52 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
    >> We are still raising a foster kitten. She's about 5 weeks old now and
    >> doing fabulously well. She'll go to the shelter for shots and a forever
    >> home next Wednesday.
    >>
    >> This morning our Toy Poodle found three tiny kittens under our
    >> motorhome. Their eyes were closed. Two were huddled together and the
    >> third was off to the side.
    >>
    >> We waited several hours to see if the mom would come back, but she did
    >> not. One of them managed to move out from under the motorhome and was
    >> exposed. I had to put it in a box and take it into the garage as we
    >> have a lot of large raptor birds around here. Could not bring it in the
    >> house and possibly expose the kitten and my dog to any diseases they
    >> might have had.
    >>
    >> Waited again, but still no mom, so DH moved the motorhome and scooped up
    >> the other two and took the three of them to the shelter before the fire
    >> ants found them.
    >>
    >> There was no way I could handle 3 babies of less than a week old. The
    >> shelter confirmed that they were about 4 days old and put them down. (Of
    >> course I feel horrible, but I can't handle 3 newborns who would need
    >> more care than I am capable of giving)
    >>
    >> My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? I tried looking
    >> on the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer. There are a
    >> number of cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.

    >
    >
    > My guess is that the mother most often gets killed by a car - around
    > here anyway. My daughter just brought home another baby kitten. That
    > thing was just skin and bones. That makes three so far.
    >
    > My wife has recommended that she gets rid of the cats because she's
    > pregnant. I don't know the details but my understanding is that cats are
    > dangerous during a pregnancy. I thought that she understood this and was
    > surprised that she brought the cat home with her last night.
    >

    They may have a disease in their poop. Don't let your pregnant daughter
    near the litter box.

    --
    Janet Wilder
    Way-the-heck-south Texas
    Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

  12. #12
    Susan Guest

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    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/20/2013 2:52 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:

    > My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? I tried looking
    > on the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer. There are a
    > number of cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.


    Oh, man that's heart breaking!

    Maybe a raptor or other predator got the mom?

    Susan

  13. #13
    Janet Wilder Guest

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    On 5/20/2013 4:16 PM, George Leppla wrote:
    > On 5/20/2013 2:38 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
    >> The kittens still had umbilical cords.
    >>
    >> I don't think it was the dog. He's very small, not much bigger than a
    >> cat.
    >>
    >> He loves the kittens we have fostered, and his groomer has a huge cat
    >> that has the run of the shop, so he knows from cats.
    >>
    >> The way one kitten was a couple of feet away from the other two, leads
    >> me to believe that the dog didn't run off the mother. She had been gone
    >> a while for that kitten to have moved on its own. If anything, he
    >> alerted us to the fact that they were there.
    >>
    >> I still feel awful.

    >
    >
    > I wouldn't feel awful. You did what you could. In the grand scheme of
    > things, you do infinitely more good for the critters than most people.
    >
    > For a Mother to abandon a litter usually means illness or predators or
    > other misfortune. These little ones probably never had a chance.
    >
    > We concentrate and are glad about the one we can save and not dwell on
    > the ones we can't. Sometimes, that is the best you can do.
    >
    > George L
    >

    Thanks, George. You helped me feel a little better. I am still so sad
    about having to put them down, but having one snatched by one of the big
    hawks that fly around here or eaten alive by the terrible Texas fire
    ants would have been so much worse.

    BTW, George and Becca met our first foster baby who is now a huge and
    beautiful cat. He was adopted by my friend and I get to visit him
    occasionally.

    --
    Janet Wilder
    Way-the-heck-south Texas
    Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

  14. #14
    Susan Guest

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    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/20/2013 5:32 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:

    > They may have a disease in their poop. Don't let your pregnant daughter
    > near the litter box.
    >


    I had my cats tested for toxoplasmosis before I got pregnant, but still
    used the pregnancy to get out of litter duty. :-)

    Susan

  15. #15
    Ophelia Guest

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    "Brooklyn1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > merryb wrote:
    >>Janet Wilder wrote:
    >>>
    >>> This morning our Toy Poodle found three tiny kittens under our
    >>> motorhome. Their eyes were closed. Two were huddled together and the
    >>> third was off to the side.
    >>>
    >>> We waited several hours to see if the mom would come back, but she did
    >>> not. One of them managed to move out from under the motorhome and was
    >>> exposed. I had to put it in a box and take it into the garage as we
    >>> have a lot of large raptor birds around here. Could not bring it in the
    >>> house and possibly expose the kitten and my dog to any diseases they
    >>> might have had.
    >>>
    >>> Waited again, but still no mom, so DH moved the motorhome and scooped up
    >>> the other two and took the three of them to the shelter before the fire
    >>> ants found them.
    >>>
    >>> There was no way I could handle 3 babies of less than a week old. The
    >>> shelter confirmed that they were about 4 days old and put them down. (Of
    >>> course I feel horrible, but I can't handle 3 newborns who would need
    >>> more care than I am capable of giving)
    >>>
    >>> My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? I tried looking
    >>> on the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer. There are a
    >>> number of cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.

    >>
    >>That's so sad I'd tend to think that something bad happened to
    >>momma kitty.

    >
    > There could be many reasons a mother cat leaves her kittens but most
    > often it's because it's a first litter and she's too young (less than
    > a year). Jack and Jill's mother abandoned them under a shrub in my
    > yard because she was too young... she was found a few days later and I
    > found her a home. She had four kittens, two were already dead and
    > Jack and Jill were darn close but with care they were nursed back to
    > health. Peach and Blackie were found in a plastic bag in a Manhattan
    > trash can in mid winter, almost frozen... they were only a few hours
    > old but with care they were nursed to health. Right now I am caring
    > for three barn kittens because their mother quit nursing them at three
    > weeks old, they never would have survived on thieir own. And at the
    > same time Peach is very sick now with a serious upper respiratory
    > viral infection... was close to putting her down but now she's very
    > slowly recovering... not out of the woods yet but hoping. It's not
    > difficult to care for three newborn kittens, three are as easy as
    > one... It's pretty heartless having them euthanized... I would have
    > definitely kept them. All that's needed as far as space is a large
    > canvas tote bag filled with lots of old towels to use as a nursery,
    > and it costs next to nothing to feed them.
    > Jack and Jill's nursery:
    > http://i43.tinypic.com/73cl1l.jpg
    > Only the most heartless would bring them to a shelter to die:
    > http://i40.tinypic.com/2dk0fnm.jpg


    Lucky kitties

    --
    --
    http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/


  16. #16
    bigwheel Guest

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    'Janet Wilder[_1_ Wrote:
    > ;1835561']We are still raising a foster kitten. She's about 5 weeks old
    > now and
    > doing fabulously well. She'll go to the shelter for shots and a forever
    >
    > home next Wednesday.
    >
    > This morning our Toy Poodle found three tiny kittens under our
    > motorhome. Their eyes were closed. Two were huddled together and the
    > third was off to the side.
    >
    > We waited several hours to see if the mom would come back, but she did
    > not. One of them managed to move out from under the motorhome and was
    > exposed. I had to put it in a box and take it into the garage as we
    > have a lot of large raptor birds around here. Could not bring it in the
    >
    > house and possibly expose the kitten and my dog to any diseases they
    > might have had.
    >
    > Waited again, but still no mom, so DH moved the motorhome and scooped up
    >
    > the other two and took the three of them to the shelter before the fire
    >
    > ants found them.
    >
    > There was no way I could handle 3 babies of less than a week old. The
    > shelter confirmed that they were about 4 days old and put them down. (Of
    >
    > course I feel horrible, but I can't handle 3 newborns who would need
    > more care than I am capable of giving)
    >
    > My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? I tried looking
    >
    > on the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer. There are a
    > number of cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.
    > --
    > Janet Wilder
    > Way-the-heck-south Texas
    > Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.


    We had a large crisis of abandoned kittens around our house not long ago
    when somebody started trapping the grown cats in the neighborhood and
    handing them over to the dog catcher. Left a bunch of baby cats without
    Mommys. That is where one of our favorite current cats came from. He was
    under the pickup clinging to the under carriage and screaming like a
    banshee. He has turned out to be a character. Mama could have got run
    over..eaten by raptors etc. Never had a putty tat that would run off and
    leave its babies knowingly/willingly.




    --
    bigwheel

  17. #17
    Julie Bove Guest

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    "Janet Wilder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:519a70d3$0$28546$c3e8da3$[email protected] eb.com...
    > We are still raising a foster kitten. She's about 5 weeks old now and
    > doing fabulously well. She'll go to the shelter for shots and a forever
    > home next Wednesday.
    >
    > This morning our Toy Poodle found three tiny kittens under our motorhome.
    > Their eyes were closed. Two were huddled together and the third was off
    > to the side.
    >
    > We waited several hours to see if the mom would come back, but she did
    > not. One of them managed to move out from under the motorhome and was
    > exposed. I had to put it in a box and take it into the garage as we have
    > a lot of large raptor birds around here. Could not bring it in the house
    > and possibly expose the kitten and my dog to any diseases they might have
    > had.
    >
    > Waited again, but still no mom, so DH moved the motorhome and scooped up
    > the other two and took the three of them to the shelter before the fire
    > ants found them.
    >
    > There was no way I could handle 3 babies of less than a week old. The
    > shelter confirmed that they were about 4 days old and put them down. (Of
    > course I feel horrible, but I can't handle 3 newborns who would need more
    > care than I am capable of giving)
    >
    > My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? I tried looking
    > on the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer. There are a
    > number of cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.


    We had a cat who tried to kill her babies. She had mated with her father
    and the kittens were born deformed. One looked okay but we suspect that it
    wasn't. My dad wound up having to put the kittens down because mom had
    really done a number on them, trying to make them not live.

    Could be that the mom was taken by someone or hit by a car or hurt by some
    animal and she couldn't get back to them.



  18. #18
    Janet Wilder Guest

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    On 5/20/2013 4:35 PM, Susan wrote:
    > x-no-archive: yes
    >
    > On 5/20/2013 2:52 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
    >
    >> My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? I tried looking
    >> on the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer. There are a
    >> number of cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.

    >
    > Oh, man that's heart breaking!
    >
    > Maybe a raptor or other predator got the mom?
    >
    > Susan


    That could very well be. There are some huge raptors around here,
    including eagles. There are also feral dogs and coyotes. I live out in
    the country.

    --
    Janet Wilder
    Way-the-heck-south Texas
    Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

  19. #19
    Janet Wilder Guest

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    On 5/20/2013 4:31 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
    > merryb wrote:
    >> Janet Wilder wrote:
    >>>
    >>> This morning our Toy Poodle found three tiny kittens under our
    >>> motorhome. Their eyes were closed. Two were huddled together and the
    >>> third was off to the side.
    >>>
    >>> We waited several hours to see if the mom would come back, but she did
    >>> not. One of them managed to move out from under the motorhome and was
    >>> exposed. I had to put it in a box and take it into the garage as we
    >>> have a lot of large raptor birds around here. Could not bring it in the
    >>> house and possibly expose the kitten and my dog to any diseases they
    >>> might have had.
    >>>
    >>> Waited again, but still no mom, so DH moved the motorhome and scooped up
    >>> the other two and took the three of them to the shelter before the fire
    >>> ants found them.
    >>>
    >>> There was no way I could handle 3 babies of less than a week old. The
    >>> shelter confirmed that they were about 4 days old and put them down. (Of
    >>> course I feel horrible, but I can't handle 3 newborns who would need
    >>> more care than I am capable of giving)
    >>>
    >>> My question is why do mother cats abandon their babies? I tried looking
    >>> on the Internet but could not find a reasonable answer. There are a
    >>> number of cat experts here, so I thought I'd ask.

    >>
    >> That's so sad I'd tend to think that something bad happened to
    >> momma kitty.

    >
    > There could be many reasons a mother cat leaves her kittens but most
    > often it's because it's a first litter and she's too young (less than
    > a year). Jack and Jill's mother abandoned them under a shrub in my
    > yard because she was too young... she was found a few days later and I
    > found her a home. She had four kittens, two were already dead and
    > Jack and Jill were darn close but with care they were nursed back to
    > health. Peach and Blackie were found in a plastic bag in a Manhattan
    > trash can in mid winter, almost frozen... they were only a few hours
    > old but with care they were nursed to health. Right now I am caring
    > for three barn kittens because their mother quit nursing them at three
    > weeks old, they never would have survived on thieir own. And at the
    > same time Peach is very sick now with a serious upper respiratory
    > viral infection... was close to putting her down but now she's very
    > slowly recovering... not out of the woods yet but hoping. It's not
    > difficult to care for three newborn kittens, three are as easy as
    > one... It's pretty heartless having them euthanized... I would have
    > definitely kept them. All that's needed as far as space is a large
    > canvas tote bag filled with lots of old towels to use as a nursery,
    > and it costs next to nothing to feed them.
    > Jack and Jill's nursery:
    > http://i43.tinypic.com/73cl1l.jpg
    > Only the most heartless would bring them to a shelter to die:
    > http://i40.tinypic.com/2dk0fnm.jpg
    >
    >
    >

    I could not keep them. I had a duty to protect the 5 week old one I am
    fostering right now. She is too young for shots and I did not know what
    the newborns would bring into my house.

    I'm sorry you think I am heartless.

    --
    Janet Wilder
    Way-the-heck-south Texas
    Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

  20. #20
    Cheri Guest

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    "Janet Wilder" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:519ab993$0$40727$c3e8da3

    > I could not keep them. I had a duty to protect the 5 week old one I am
    > fostering right now. She is too young for shots and I did not know what
    > the newborns would bring into my house.
    >
    > I'm sorry you think I am heartless.
    >
    > --
    > Janet Wilder
    > Way-the-heck-south Texas
    > Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.



    I don't, not at all. I think you're doing a good thing with the fostering of
    the 5 week old.

    Cheri


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