Thread: OT: Vengeance will be mine

On May 17, 6:57*pm, Bryan <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
> going to buy a decoy gas can. *It will be full of gas, but not for me
> to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
> gas. *That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatever car
> it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
> pistons and/or cylinders. *I'll even use permanent marker to write on
> it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." *The thought of doing one, two, maybe
> even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
> happy. *At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
> and that's a couple hundred. *The asshole will never know exactly what
> happened.
>
> --Bryan

Why not just dissolve sugar in gasoline? Presugared gas! Better than
pouring sugar into someone's gastank!

And a LOT cheaper than 5 gallons of Coleman fuel!

John Kuthe...

On May 17, 7:01*pm, John Kuthe <johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 17, 6:57*pm, Bryan <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
> > going to buy a decoy gas can. *It will be full of gas, but not for me
> > to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
> > gas. *That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatever car
> > it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
> > pistons and/or cylinders. *I'll even use permanent marker to write on
> > it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." *The thought of doing one, two, maybe
> > even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
> > happy. *At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
> > and that's a couple hundred. *The asshole will never know exactly what
> > happened.
>
> > --Bryan
>
> Why not just dissolve sugar in gasoline? Presugared gas! Better than
> pouring sugar into someone's gastank!
>
> And a LOT cheaper than 5 gallons of Coleman fuel!

How badly will the sugar damage the engine?
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan

Bryan <[email protected]> wrote:


>After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
>going to buy a decoy gas can. It will be full of gas, but not for me
>to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
>gas. That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatever car
>it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
>pistons and/or cylinders. I'll even use permanent marker to write on
>it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." The thought of doing one, two, maybe
>even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
>happy. At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
>and that's a couple hundred. The asshole will never know exactly what
>happened.

Bad idea. A person stealing gas is also probably driving a borrowed car.
More than likely you are ****ing over someone innocent.

Steve

On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:57:15 -0700 (PDT), Bryan wrote:

> After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
> going to buy a decoy gas can. It will be full of gas, but not for me
> to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
> gas. That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatever car
> it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
> pistons and/or cylinders. I'll even use permanent marker to write on
> it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." The thought of doing one, two, maybe
> even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
> happy. At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
> and that's a couple hundred. The asshole will never know exactly what
> happened.

Gas and sugar, maybe some water to disolve the sugar, but not enough
to where the car won't run so it can burn more sugar.

The can should read "UNLEADED GAS ONLY"

-sw

On May 17, 7:07*pm, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
> Bryan *<bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
> >going to buy a decoy gas can. *It will be full of gas, but not for me
> >to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
> >gas. *That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatever car
> >it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
> >pistons and/or cylinders. *I'll even use permanent marker to write on
> >it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." *The thought of doing one, two, maybe
> >even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
> >happy. *At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
> >and that's a couple hundred. *The asshole will never know exactly what
> >happened.
>
> Bad idea. *A person stealing gas is also probably driving a borrowed car.
> More than likely you are ****ing over someone innocent.

The incidence of gas theft goes way up when gas prices go up. The
likelihood that the gas is being put into a stolen car is low. If
it's a borrowed car, then the person who lent the car to the thief
will indeed get ****ed over.
>
> Steve

--Bryan

On May 17, 7:13*pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:57:15 -0700 (PDT), Bryan wrote:
> > After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
> > going to buy a decoy gas can. *It will be full of gas, but not for me
> > to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
> > gas. *That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatever car
> > it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
> > pistons and/or cylinders. *I'll even use permanent marker to write on
> > it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." *The thought of doing one, two, maybe
> > even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
> > happy. *At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
> > and that's a couple hundred. *The asshole will never know exactly what
> > happened.
>
> Gas and sugar, maybe some water to disolve the sugar, but not enough
> to where the car won't run so it can burn more sugar.
>
> The can should read "UNLEADED GAS ONLY"

How badly does sugar damage the engine?
>
> -sw

--Bryan

On May 17, 7:03*pm, Bryan <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 17, 7:01*pm, John Kuthe <johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 17, 6:57*pm, Bryan <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
> > > going to buy a decoy gas can. *It will be full of gas, but not for me
> > > to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
> > > gas. *That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatever car
> > > it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
> > > pistons and/or cylinders. *I'll even use permanent marker to write on
> > > it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." *The thought of doing one, two, maybe
> > > even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
> > > happy. *At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
> > > and that's a couple hundred. *The asshole will never know exactly what
> > > happened.
>
> > > --Bryan
>
> > Why not just dissolve sugar in gasoline? Presugared gas! Better than
> > pouring sugar into someone's gastank!
>
> > And a LOT cheaper than 5 gallons of Coleman fuel!
>
> How badly will the sugar damage the engine?
>
>
>
> > John Kuthe...
>
> --Bryan

It gums it up, necessitating full takedown and cleaning. Nothing short
of that will ever get all the combusted sugar deposits off the
engine's internal parts.

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe wrote:
> On May 17, 7:03 pm, Bryan<bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On May 17, 7:01 pm, John Kuthe<johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 17, 6:57 pm, Bryan<bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
>>>> going to buy a decoy gas can. It will be full of gas, but not for me
>>>> to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
>>>> gas. That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatever car
>>>> it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
>>>> pistons and/or cylinders. I'll even use permanent marker to write on
>>>> it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." The thought of doing one, two, maybe
>>>> even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
>>>> happy. At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
>>>> and that's a couple hundred. The asshole will never know exactly what
>>>> happened.
>>>>
>>
>>>> --Bryan
>>>>
>>
>>> Why not just dissolve sugar in gasoline? Presugared gas! Better than
>>> pouring sugar into someone's gastank!
>>>
>>
>>> And a LOT cheaper than 5 gallons of Coleman fuel!
>>>
>> How badly will the sugar damage the engine?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>> --Bryan
>>
> It gums it up, necessitating full takedown and cleaning. Nothing short
> of that will ever get all the combusted sugar deposits off the
> engine's internal parts.
>
> John Kuthe...
>
http://www.snopes.com/autos/grace/sugar.asp

On 5/17/2011 2:01 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On May 17, 6:57 pm, Bryan<bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
>> going to buy a decoy gas can. It will be full of gas, but not for me
>> to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
>> gas. That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatever car
>> it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
>> pistons and/or cylinders. I'll even use permanent marker to write on
>> it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." The thought of doing one, two, maybe
>> even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
>> happy. At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
>> and that's a couple hundred. The asshole will never know exactly what
>> happened.
>>
>> --Bryan
>
> Why not just dissolve sugar in gasoline? Presugared gas! Better than
> pouring sugar into someone's gastank!
>
> And a LOT cheaper than 5 gallons of Coleman fuel!
>
> John Kuthe...

If I recall correctly, sugar will not dissolve in gasoline. You might be
able to get some sugar in solution by first dissolving the sugar in
water then mixing the solution in alcohol and then mixing the
alcohol/sugar/water mix into the gas. I can't say that I know what
naphtha will do to a car engine.

John Kuthe wrote:
> On May 17, 7:03 pm, Bryan <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 17, 7:01 pm, John Kuthe <johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 17, 6:57 pm, Bryan <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
>>>> going to buy a decoy gas can. It will be full of gas, but not for me
>>>> to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
>>>> gas. That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatever car
>>>> it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
>>>> pistons and/or cylinders. I'll even use permanent marker to write on
>>>> it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." The thought of doing one, two, maybe
>>>> even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
>>>> happy. At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
>>>> and that's a couple hundred. The asshole will never know exactly what
>>>> happened.
>>>> --Bryan
>>> Why not just dissolve sugar in gasoline? Presugared gas! Better than
>>> pouring sugar into someone's gastank!
>>> And a LOT cheaper than 5 gallons of Coleman fuel!
>> How badly will the sugar damage the engine?
>>
>>
>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>> --Bryan
>
> It gums it up, necessitating full takedown and cleaning. Nothing short
> of that will ever get all the combusted sugar deposits off the
> engine's internal parts.
>
> John Kuthe...


Are you sure that sugar is soluble in gasoline?

(Why not fill the can 3/4 full of water and float some gasoline on top
so it'll smell right?)

-Bob

On May 17, 7:30*pm, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> On 5/17/2011 2:01 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 17, 6:57 pm, Bryan<bryangsimm...@gmail.com> *wrote:
> >> After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
> >> going to buy a decoy gas can. *It will be full of gas, but not for me
> >> to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
> >> gas. *That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatever car
> >> it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
> >> pistons and/or cylinders. *I'll even use permanent marker to write on
> >> it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." *The thought of doing one, two, maybe
> >> even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
> >> happy. *At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
> >> and that's a couple hundred. *The asshole will never know exactly what
> >> happened.
>
> >> --Bryan
>
> > Why not just dissolve sugar in gasoline? Presugared gas! Better than
> > pouring sugar into someone's gastank!
>
> > And a LOT cheaper than 5 gallons of Coleman fuel!
>
> > John Kuthe...
>
> If I recall correctly, sugar will not dissolve in gasoline. You might be
> able to get some sugar in solution by first dissolving the sugar in
> water then mixing the solution in alcohol and then mixing the
> alcohol/sugar/water mix into the gas. I can't say that I know what
> naphtha will do to a car engine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleman_fuel

Seems like a gallon of white gas would lower the octane significantly
enough to seriously damage the engine, even if the gallon were added
to a tank that already had 10 gallons of regular gas in it.

--Bryan

On 17/05/2011 8:07 PM, Steve Pope wrote:
> Bryan<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
>> going to buy a decoy gas can. It will be full of gas, but not for me
>> to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
>> gas. That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatever car
>> it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
>> pistons and/or cylinders. I'll even use permanent marker to write on
>> it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." The thought of doing one, two, maybe
>> even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
>> happy. At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
>> and that's a couple hundred. The asshole will never know exactly what
>> happened.
>
> Bad idea. A person stealing gas is also probably driving a borrowed car.
> More than likely you are ****ing over someone innocent.
>

Years ago I had to work 3-4 times a year with one of our special crews.
The supervisor at that location was a total jerk. He was convinced that
someone was stealing gas from the jerry cans and, jerk that he was
sabotaged the gas by putting some dye crystals in it. The dye would turn
florescent green when it was in contact with water and would burn okay
in engines, but it quickly clogged fuel filters. One of the crew knew
that he had done it, so he made sure that gas ended up in the
equipment... lawn mowers, trimmers, pumps. The road mechanic had to
make several trips out to repair the equipment. It took a long time to
purge the stuff out of the gas cans and the gas tanks on the various
pieces of equipment. It backfired on that jerk of a supervisor. He
denied that he had done it, but... he was a jerk.

On May 17, 7:20*pm, John Kuthe <johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 17, 7:03*pm, Bryan <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 17, 7:01*pm, John Kuthe <johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 17, 6:57*pm, Bryan <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
> > > > going to buy a decoy gas can. *It will be full of gas, but not for me
> > > > to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
> > > > gas. *That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatevercar
> > > > it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
> > > > pistons and/or cylinders. *I'll even use permanent marker to write on
> > > > it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." *The thought of doing one, two, maybe
> > > > even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
> > > > happy. *At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
> > > > and that's a couple hundred. *The asshole will never know exactlywhat
> > > > happened.
>
> > > > --Bryan
>
> > > Why not just dissolve sugar in gasoline? Presugared gas! Better than
> > > pouring sugar into someone's gastank!
>
> > > And a LOT cheaper than 5 gallons of Coleman fuel!
>
> > How badly will the sugar damage the engine?
>
> > > John Kuthe...
>
> > --Bryan
>
> It gums it up, necessitating full takedown and cleaning. Nothing short
> of that will ever get all the combusted sugar deposits off the
> engine's internal parts.

It appears that the sugar will never make it to the engine. How about
dissolving styrofoam in the gas?
>
> John Kuthe...

--Bryan http://www.flickr.com/photos/3617818...in/photostream

On May 17, 7:28*pm, L G <Lar...@lousyyukonrowboat.com> wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
> > On May 17, 7:03 pm, Bryan<bryangsimm...@gmail.com> *wrote:
>
> >> On May 17, 7:01 pm, John Kuthe<johnkuth...@gmail.com> *wrote:
>
> >>> On May 17, 6:57 pm, Bryan<bryangsimm...@gmail.com> *wrote:
>
> >>>> After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
> >>>> going to buy a decoy gas can. *It will be full of gas, but not forme
> >>>> to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
> >>>> gas. *That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatever car
> >>>> it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
> >>>> pistons and/or cylinders. *I'll even use permanent marker to writeon
> >>>> it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." *The thought of doing one, two, maybe
> >>>> even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
> >>>> happy. *At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
> >>>> and that's a couple hundred. *The asshole will never know exactly what
> >>>> happened.
>
> >>>> --Bryan
>
> >>> Why not just dissolve sugar in gasoline? Presugared gas! Better than
> >>> pouring sugar into someone's gastank!
>
> >>> And a LOT cheaper than 5 gallons of Coleman fuel!
>
> >> How badly will the sugar damage the engine?
>
> >>> John Kuthe...
>
> >> --Bryan
>
> > It gums it up, necessitating full takedown and cleaning. Nothing short
> > of that will ever get all the combusted sugar deposits off the
> > engine's internal parts.
>
> > John Kuthe...
>
> http://www.snopes.com/autos/grace/sugar.asp

I stand Snoped! Urban legended too! Oh well...

John Kuthe...

On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:57:15 -0700 (PDT), Bryan wrote:

> The thought of doing one, two, maybe
> even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
> happy. At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
> and that's a couple hundred. The asshole will never know exactly what
> happened.

The reality of actually doing this is that you could be sued for that,
and would surely lose. This is a classic example case that is
discussed in all the tort law textbooks.

Leaving a can of gas in the back of your accessible pick up truck
which:

1. You have falsely labeled, and
2. With the knowledge that it's common for it to be stolen, and
3. With the intent that it gets stolen, and
4. Admitting it in advance on Usenet using your full name including
middle initial...

You wouldn't stand a chance in civil court.

-sw

On Tue, 17 May 2011 20:28:20 -0400, L G wrote:

> John Kuthe wrote:
>
>> It gums it up, necessitating full takedown and cleaning. Nothing short
>> of that will ever get all the combusted sugar deposits off the
>> engine's internal parts.
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
> http://www.snopes.com/autos/grace/sugar.asp

Which is why I mentioned dissolving it in water first.

ObFood: Use HFCS or Karo Syrup instead. Problem.. uh... solved.

-sw

On Tue, 17 May 2011 17:16:17 -0700 (PDT), Bryan wrote:

> On May 17, 7:13*pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:57:15 -0700 (PDT), Bryan wrote:
>>> After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
>>> going to buy a decoy gas can. *It will be full of gas, but not for me
>>> to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
>>> gas. *That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatever car
>>> it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
>>> pistons and/or cylinders. *I'll even use permanent marker to write on
>>> it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." *The thought of doing one, two, maybe
>>> even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
>>> happy. *At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
>>> and that's a couple hundred. *The asshole will never know exactly what
>>> happened.
>>
>> Gas and sugar, maybe some water to disolve the sugar, but not enough
>> to where the car won't run so it can burn more sugar.
>>
>> The can should read "UNLEADED GAS ONLY"
>
> How badly does sugar damage the engine?

We don't know that yet. Apparently the researchers never got that
far. Which is why I said to dissolve the sugar in water first. Or
use high fructose corn or karo syrup.

-sw

Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:57:15 -0700 (PDT), Bryan wrote:
>
>> The thought of doing one, two, maybe
>> even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
>> happy. At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
>> and that's a couple hundred. The asshole will never know exactly what
>> happened.
>
> The reality of actually doing this is that you could be sued for that,
> and would surely lose. This is a classic example case that is
> discussed in all the tort law textbooks.
>
> Leaving a can of gas in the back of your accessible pick up truck
> which:
>
> 1. You have falsely labeled, and
> 2. With the knowledge that it's common for it to be stolen, and
> 3. With the intent that it gets stolen, and
> 4. Admitting it in advance on Usenet using your full name including
> middle initial...
>
> You wouldn't stand a chance in civil court.
>
> -sw

Some people in the old hood was stealing gas by using a cordless drill and
drilling a hole in the gas tank and putting a can under it. Costing the
owner hundreds in repairs. Locking gas caps no longer works.

I think gasoline powered cars will become history anyways. Now how to steal
electricity?

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On 5/17/2011 7:57 PM, Bryan wrote:
> After getting a gas can stolen for the second time in two years, I'm
> going to buy a decoy gas can. It will be full of gas, but not for me
> to use, because instead of regular gasoline, it'll be full of Coleman
> gas. That should reduce the octane rating of the gas in whatever car
> it's put into, burning up the valves and maybe even damaging the
> pistons and/or cylinders. I'll even use permanent marker to write on
> it, "Gas only, no 2 cycle oil." The thought of doing one, two, maybe
> even three thousand dollars damage to the thief's car makes me very
> happy. At minimum the gas tank with probably end up being drained,
> and that's a couple hundred. The asshole will never know exactly what
> happened.

LOL! I like it!