Thread: OT: Time

On Mon 27 Oct 2008 01:01:28a, Omelet told us...

> In article <[email protected] 0>,
> Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon 27 Oct 2008 12:25:47a, Omelet told us...
>>
>> > My computer was off earlier, had to manually reset it. :-P
>> > They changed the dates for daylight savings time so I had to fix it.
>> > Sorry if earlier posts were screwed up!
>> >
>> > Older computers like mine are going to be off for a week or two
>> > without manual sets.
>>
>> What OS are you running? My PC was bought in 2001, but I'm running
>> Windows XP Pro SP2. It automtically compensates for DST. However,
>> since AZ doesn't observe DST and my time zone is set in the software
>> for AZ time, it doesn't change.
>
> Mac OS-X 10.2.8
>
> It does automagically compensate for DST, but on the OLD time scale.
> The Government changed it last year so it's lengthened. My computer is
> programmed to compensate for it changing in October, not November.

I believe Microsoft updated XP to the new scheduled changes.

--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)

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On Mon 27 Oct 2008 01:07:08a, Omelet told us...

> In article <[email protected] >,
> Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon 27 Oct 2008 01:01:28a, Omelet told us...
>>
>> > In article <[email protected] 0>,
>> > Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon 27 Oct 2008 12:25:47a, Omelet told us...
>> >>
>> >> > My computer was off earlier, had to manually reset it. :-P
>> >> > They changed the dates for daylight savings time so I had to fix
it.
>> >> > Sorry if earlier posts were screwed up!
>> >> >
>> >> > Older computers like mine are going to be off for a week or two
>> >> > without manual sets.
>> >>
>> >> What OS are you running? My PC was bought in 2001, but I'm running
>> >> Windows XP Pro SP2. It automtically compensates for DST. However,
>> >> since AZ doesn't observe DST and my time zone is set in the software
>> >> for AZ time, it doesn't change.
>> >
>> > Mac OS-X 10.2.8
>> >
>> > It does automagically compensate for DST, but on the OLD time scale.
>> > The Government changed it last year so it's lengthened. My computer
is
>> > programmed to compensate for it changing in October, not November.
>>
>> I believe Microsoft updated XP to the new scheduled changes.
>
> I drive an older mac!

:-)

--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)

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Date: Monday, 10(X)/27(XXVII)/08(MMVIII)
*******************************************
Countdown till Veteran's Day
2wks 23hrs 38mins
*******************************************
One who has both feet on the ground is
not moving forward.

My computer was off earlier, had to manually reset it. :-P
They changed the dates for daylight savings time so I had to fix it.
Sorry if earlier posts were screwed up!

Older computers like mine are going to be off for a week or two without
manual sets.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

In article <[email protected] 0>,
Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon 27 Oct 2008 12:25:47a, Omelet told us...
>
> > My computer was off earlier, had to manually reset it. :-P
> > They changed the dates for daylight savings time so I had to fix it.
> > Sorry if earlier posts were screwed up!
> >
> > Older computers like mine are going to be off for a week or two without
> > manual sets.
>
> What OS are you running? My PC was bought in 2001, but I'm running Windows
> XP Pro SP2. It automtically compensates for DST. However, since AZ doesn't
> observe DST and my time zone is set in the software for AZ time, it doesn't
> change.

Mac OS-X 10.2.8

It does automagically compensate for DST, but on the OLD time scale.
The Government changed it last year so it's lengthened. My computer is
programmed to compensate for it changing in October, not November.
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

In article <[email protected]>,
Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> >
> > My computer was off earlier, had to manually reset it. :-P
> > They changed the dates for daylight savings time so I had to fix it.
> > Sorry if earlier posts were screwed up!
> >
> > Older computers like mine are going to be off for a week or two without
> > manual sets.
>
> My Thinkpad changed the time, but my iBook didn't.
>
> If anyone is as confused as I am about whether we
> change time tonight or not, go here:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...s#Start_and_en
> d_dates_of_United_States_Daylight_Time
>
> For the U.S., the answer is no.
>
> I believe for Europe, it's actually yes.
> I think I saw a news segment on DW-TV
> which said it changes tonight.
>
> The last time the time changed, I called
> 767-1111 to get the time, and got a recording
> saying the phone company no longer provides
> the time.

I count on the time clock at work. ;-)
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

In article <[email protected] >,
Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon 27 Oct 2008 01:01:28a, Omelet told us...
>
> > In article <[email protected] 0>,
> > Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon 27 Oct 2008 12:25:47a, Omelet told us...
> >>
> >> > My computer was off earlier, had to manually reset it. :-P
> >> > They changed the dates for daylight savings time so I had to fix it.
> >> > Sorry if earlier posts were screwed up!
> >> >
> >> > Older computers like mine are going to be off for a week or two
> >> > without manual sets.
> >>
> >> What OS are you running? My PC was bought in 2001, but I'm running
> >> Windows XP Pro SP2. It automtically compensates for DST. However,
> >> since AZ doesn't observe DST and my time zone is set in the software
> >> for AZ time, it doesn't change.
> >
> > Mac OS-X 10.2.8
> >
> > It does automagically compensate for DST, but on the OLD time scale.
> > The Government changed it last year so it's lengthened. My computer is
> > programmed to compensate for it changing in October, not November.
>
> I believe Microsoft updated XP to the new scheduled changes.

I drive an older mac!
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Omelet wrote:
>
> My computer was off earlier, had to manually reset it. :-P
> They changed the dates for daylight savings time so I had to fix it.
> Sorry if earlier posts were screwed up!
>
> Older computers like mine are going to be off for a week or two without
> manual sets.

My Thinkpad changed the time, but my iBook didn't.

If anyone is as confused as I am about whether we
change time tonight or not, go here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History..._Daylight_Time

For the U.S., the answer is no.

I believe for Europe, it's actually yes.
I think I saw a news segment on DW-TV
which said it changes tonight.

The last time the time changed, I called
767-1111 to get the time, and got a recording
saying the phone company no longer provides
the time.

Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon 27 Oct 2008 01:07:08a, Omelet told us...
>
>> In article <[email protected] >,
>> Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon 27 Oct 2008 01:01:28a, Omelet told us...
>>>
>>> > In article <[email protected] 0>,
>>> > Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On Mon 27 Oct 2008 12:25:47a, Omelet told us...
>>> >>
>>> >> > My computer was off earlier, had to manually reset it. :-P
>>> >> > They changed the dates for daylight savings time so I had to fix
> it.
>>> >> > Sorry if earlier posts were screwed up!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Older computers like mine are going to be off for a week or two
>>> >> > without manual sets.
>>> >>
>>> >> What OS are you running? My PC was bought in 2001, but I'm running
>>> >> Windows XP Pro SP2. It automtically compensates for DST. However,
>>> >> since AZ doesn't observe DST and my time zone is set in the software
>>> >> for AZ time, it doesn't change.
>>> >
>>> > Mac OS-X 10.2.8
>>> >
>>> > It does automagically compensate for DST, but on the OLD time scale.
>>> > The Government changed it last year so it's lengthened. My computer
> is
>>> > programmed to compensate for it changing in October, not November.
>>>
>>> I believe Microsoft updated XP to the new scheduled changes.
>>
>> I drive an older mac!
>
> :-)

I don't think you two are on the same planet.

-sw

In article <[email protected]>,
Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:

> Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Mon 27 Oct 2008 01:07:08a, Omelet told us...
> >
> >> In article <[email protected] >,
> >> Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Mon 27 Oct 2008 01:01:28a, Omelet told us...
> >>>
> >>> > In article <[email protected] 0>,
> >>> > Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> On Mon 27 Oct 2008 12:25:47a, Omelet told us...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > My computer was off earlier, had to manually reset it. :-P
> >>> >> > They changed the dates for daylight savings time so I had to fix
> > it.
> >>> >> > Sorry if earlier posts were screwed up!
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Older computers like mine are going to be off for a week or two
> >>> >> > without manual sets.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> What OS are you running? My PC was bought in 2001, but I'm running
> >>> >> Windows XP Pro SP2. It automtically compensates for DST. However,
> >>> >> since AZ doesn't observe DST and my time zone is set in the software
> >>> >> for AZ time, it doesn't change.
> >>> >
> >>> > Mac OS-X 10.2.8
> >>> >
> >>> > It does automagically compensate for DST, but on the OLD time scale.
> >>> > The Government changed it last year so it's lengthened. My computer
> > is
> >>> > programmed to compensate for it changing in October, not November.
> >>>
> >>> I believe Microsoft updated XP to the new scheduled changes.
> >>
> >> I drive an older mac!
> >
> > :-)
>
> I don't think you two are on the same planet.
>
> -sw

Come in for a landing babe!
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Omelet wrote:
> In article <[email protected] >,
> Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon 27 Oct 2008 01:01:28a, Omelet told us...
>>
>>> In article <[email protected] 0>,
>>> Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon 27 Oct 2008 12:25:47a, Omelet told us...
>>>>
>>>>> My computer was off earlier, had to manually reset it. :-P
>>>>> They changed the dates for daylight savings time so I had to fix it.
>>>>> Sorry if earlier posts were screwed up!
>>>>>
>>>>> Older computers like mine are going to be off for a week or two
>>>>> without manual sets.
>>>> What OS are you running? My PC was bought in 2001, but I'm running
>>>> Windows XP Pro SP2. It automtically compensates for DST. However,
>>>> since AZ doesn't observe DST and my time zone is set in the software
>>>> for AZ time, it doesn't change.
>>> Mac OS-X 10.2.8
>>>
>>> It does automagically compensate for DST, but on the OLD time scale.
>>> The Government changed it last year so it's lengthened. My computer is
>>> programmed to compensate for it changing in October, not November.
>> I believe Microsoft updated XP to the new scheduled changes.
>
> I drive an older mac!

But you can still update the DST rules even though Jobs has cast you
adrift. There are various places aside from Apple to get such update
packages.

In article <ge4bnn$pec$[email protected]>,
George <[email protected]> wrote:

> Omelet wrote:
> > In article <[email protected] >,
> > Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon 27 Oct 2008 01:01:28a, Omelet told us...
> >>
> >>> In article <[email protected] 0>,
> >>> Wayne Boatwright <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon 27 Oct 2008 12:25:47a, Omelet told us...
> >>>>
> >>>>> My computer was off earlier, had to manually reset it. :-P
> >>>>> They changed the dates for daylight savings time so I had to fix it.
> >>>>> Sorry if earlier posts were screwed up!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Older computers like mine are going to be off for a week or two
> >>>>> without manual sets.
> >>>> What OS are you running? My PC was bought in 2001, but I'm running
> >>>> Windows XP Pro SP2. It automtically compensates for DST. However,
> >>>> since AZ doesn't observe DST and my time zone is set in the software
> >>>> for AZ time, it doesn't change.
> >>> Mac OS-X 10.2.8
> >>>
> >>> It does automagically compensate for DST, but on the OLD time scale.
> >>> The Government changed it last year so it's lengthened. My computer is
> >>> programmed to compensate for it changing in October, not November.
> >> I believe Microsoft updated XP to the new scheduled changes.
> >
> > I drive an older mac!
>
> But you can still update the DST rules even though Jobs has cast you
> adrift. There are various places aside from Apple to get such update
> packages.

I'm actually not worried about it, but thanks anyhoo!
I should be posting at the right time now. I'll switch it back to
network time when it comes due. I think it's the second weekend in
November?

I've refused to upgrade my current software to "Tiger" for two reasons.
One, I'll lose too much software that won't run with the upgrade,
including all the stuff that runs on the 9.0 emulator (which Tiger does
not have) and two, it destroyed dad's computer.

Tiger is a BAD upgrade!
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:25:47 -0600, Omelet wrote:

> My computer was off earlier, had to manually reset it. :-P
> They changed the dates for daylight savings time so I had to fix it.
> Sorry if earlier posts were screwed up!
>
> Older computers like mine are going to be off for a week or two without
> manual sets.

i have that problem with windows millennium, but i thought macs had a patch
for that (as the newer versions of windows do). if not, just tell your
computer you're one time zone to the east for the next two weeks, or
whenever the 'new' time kicks in.

your pal,
blake

George replied to Om:

>> I drive an older mac!
>
> But you can still update the DST rules even though Jobs has cast you
> adrift. There are various places aside from Apple to get such update
> packages.

Update packages from elsewhere? Jobs setting us adrift? What ARE you
talking about? I have a older Mac still running Tiger and mine is
keeping correct time. Besides the regular software updates from Apple,
there's this little thing called "Date and Time" that you can manually
set. No big deal at all.

--Lin

Omelet wrote:

> I've refused to upgrade my current software to "Tiger" for two reasons.
> One, I'll lose too much software that won't run with the upgrade,
> including all the stuff that runs on the 9.0 emulator (which Tiger does
> not have) and two, it destroyed dad's computer.
>
> Tiger is a BAD upgrade!

Uhhh, how old is your machine? Why in the world you want to run in
Classic? Surely, none of your third party software is supporting OS9
anymore.

From this graphic designer's point of view, dumping OS9 was the best
thing that could have happened.

Using my best Tony the Tiger voice: "Tiger is GRRREAT!" I haven't
upgraded to Leopard yet and don't see the need to. I still get regular
updates from Apple for the older product.

Which of the old cats are you running -- Panther or Jaguar?

I suppose this thread could have fallen into the current "cats" one! ;-)

--Lin

blake murphy wrote:

> i have that problem with windows millennium, but i thought macs had a patch
> for that (as the newer versions of windows do). if not, just tell your
> computer you're one time zone to the east for the next two weeks, or
> whenever the 'new' time kicks in.

Interestingly enough, my sister is in London for a little vacation and
she says that the time changed there last night. Looks like we will all
be screwed up time-zone wise for a couple of weeks.

--Lin

Omelet wrote:

> About 7 or 8 years and yes, there is some Microsoft stuff that will only
> run on OS9. Specifically Powerpoint. There is no upgrade for OS-X.

I take it you never went to the Microsoft Office package for OSX. I'm
running PowerPoint (and the other products of the suite). It can be an
expensive upgrade though. I had the benefit of Academic licenses for
purchase when I got mine.

> Sorry but I disagree. <g> I also don't have a "Fetch" upgrade for
> higher OS-X upgrades! It is one of my favorite programs for uploading
> stuff to webspace.

I remember Fetch!

> <shrugs> Just OS-X 10.2.8.
>
> Works for me!

Ahhh. Jaguar. Panther was a pretty fussy install for me, but it worked
flawlessly after a little tweaking.

--Lin

Omelet wrote:

>
> Which is what I did. <g> Manually setting it just takes a minute or so.

Yeah ... but your time stamp is still showing an hour later on my end! LOL!

Spring forward and Fall back, etc. ;-)

--Lin

In article <1s9wbzbjciwgb.1oma06kjhytx2$.[email protected]>,
blake murphy <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:25:47 -0600, Omelet wrote:
>
> > My computer was off earlier, had to manually reset it. :-P
> > They changed the dates for daylight savings time so I had to fix it.
> > Sorry if earlier posts were screwed up!
> >
> > Older computers like mine are going to be off for a week or two without
> > manual sets.
>
> i have that problem with windows millennium, but i thought macs had a patch
> for that (as the newer versions of windows do). if not, just tell your
> computer you're one time zone to the east for the next two weeks, or
> whenever the 'new' time kicks in.
>
> your pal,
> blake

I did not think of that. :-) Thanks!
--
Peace! Om

"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama

Omelet wrote:

> Huh, Where do I look? From what I've found, Powerpoint did not make an
> upgrade for OS-X? I could be wrong of course!
>
> I'm always up for an education. :-)

It's part of the complete Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac package.
Checking pricing, Microsoft has drastically dropped the price of the
suite. Looks like you can get 2008 for $120-$150. This price is far more
attractive than what it used to be! Not sure about the system
requirements though.

I'm still running 2004 and the pricing I see for that (yes, it's still
for sale!) is over $200.

--Lin