Thread: OT the most insulting comnmerical

On Feb 11, 11:15 am, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> Have you seen the newest Enbrel commercial?
>
> It opens with a woman saying, "I knew rheumatoid arthritis was painful, but
> I didn't know it could attack my joints!"
>
> I you have RA you would know where the pain is coming from. DUH!
>
> I just think the ad agency must think people with RA are idiots.
>
> I am not sure what you think but I think its insulting.
>
> Lets see what else we can come up with.
>
> "I knew a fracture was painful but I didn't know it involved my bones.
>
> Dimitri

The most insulting ones by far, are all the ones where the person's
child (teenager or whatever) blithely informs the sufferer about new
medications, new medical information, etc., that they apparently have
found on the web. Yeah, right. Second worst ones are the ones which
show that the woman always needs help from either the husband or the
son to find out medical information.

N.

"Nancy2" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> The most insulting ones by far, are all the ones where the person's
> child (teenager or whatever) blithely informs the sufferer about new
> medications, new medical information, etc., that they apparently have
> found on the web. Yeah, right. Second worst ones are the ones which
> show that the woman always needs help from either the husband or the
> son to find out medical information.

Yes! I'd like to strangle the kid who shows his simpering mom the
information he found on the internet about the disease du jour.

Felice

Nancy2 wrote:

> On Feb 11, 11:15 am, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> > Have you seen the newest Enbrel commercial?
> >
> > It opens with a woman saying, "I knew rheumatoid arthritis was painful,
but
> > I didn't know it could attack my joints!"
> >
> > I you have RA you would know where the pain is coming from. DUH!
> >
> > I just think the ad agency must think people with RA are idiots.
> >
> > I am not sure what you think but I think its insulting.
> >
> > Lets see what else we can come up with.
> >
> > "I knew a fracture was painful but I didn't know it involved my bones.
> >
> > Dimitri
>
> The most insulting ones by far, are all the ones where the person's
> child (teenager or whatever) blithely informs the sufferer about new
> medications, new medical information, etc., that they apparently have
> found on the web. Yeah, right. Second worst ones are the ones which
> show that the woman always needs help from either the husband or the
> son to find out medical information.


ALL of the "geezer - centric" medical ads are incredibly lame and seem
targeted towards morons...makes watching the nightly network nooze almost
unbearable. Bring back cigarette commercials I say...


--
Best
Greg

On Feb 11, 11:15*am, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> Have you seen the newest Enbrel commercial?
>
> It opens with a woman saying, "I knew rheumatoid arthritis was painful, but
> I didn't know it could attack my joints!"
>
> I you have RA you would know where the pain is coming from. *DUH!
>
> I just think the ad agency must think people with RA are idiots.
>
> I am not sure what you think but I think its insulting.
>
> Lets see what else we can come up with.
>
> "I knew a fracture was painful but I didn't know it involved my bones.
>
> Dimitri

OK - Here's Lynn on her soapbox . . .
Advertising prescription drugs to potential consumers is immoral and
frequently offensive. Hundreds of millions of dollars are spent by
pharmaceutical companies to elicit billions and billions of dollars in
profits. I believe that is criminal. And I know that it disgusts me.
Lynn in Fargo

Felice wrote:
> "Nancy2" <[email protected]> wrote

>> The most insulting ones by far, are all the ones where the person's
>> child (teenager or whatever) blithely informs the sufferer about new
>> medications, new medical information, etc., that they apparently have
>> found on the web. Yeah, right. Second worst ones are the ones which
>> show that the woman always needs help from either the husband or the
>> son to find out medical information.
>
> Yes! I'd like to strangle the kid who shows his simpering mom the
> information he found on the internet about the disease du jour.

How about the one where the woman goes on and on about
how much they need life insurance for all their final bills. The
husband lets her go on and on then informs her he already took
care of it.

nancy

Dimitri wrote:
> Have you seen the newest Enbrel commercial?
>
> It opens with a woman saying, "I knew rheumatoid arthritis was painful,
> but I didn't know it could attack my joints!"

Yes, DOH! They get worse and worse.


AFAIAC the most insulting is any one that tells you to "ask"
your doctor for a Rx for a new med. Why bother to go to a doctor?
Just steal a prescription pad and prescribe them all for yourself.

I much prefer to go to the doctor informed but let HIM do the
diagnosing and prescribing, after I ask a few questions. He's
never steered me wrong so far.

gloria p

On Feb 11, 11:52*am, Lynn from Fargo <lynng...@i29.net> wrote:
> On Feb 11, 11:15*am, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Have you seen the newest Enbrel commercial?
>
> > It opens with a woman saying, "I knew rheumatoid arthritis was painful,but
> > I didn't know it could attack my joints!"
>
> > I you have RA you would know where the pain is coming from. *DUH!
>
> > I just think the ad agency must think people with RA are idiots.
>
> > I am not sure what you think but I think its insulting.
>
> > Lets see what else we can come up with.
>
> > "I knew a fracture was painful but I didn't know it involved my bones.
>
> > Dimitri
>
> OK - Here's Lynn on her soapbox . . .
> Advertising prescription drugs to potential consumers is immoral and
> frequently offensive. *Hundreds of millions of dollars are spent by
> pharmaceutical companies to elicit billions and billions of dollars in
> profits. *I believe that is criminal. And I know that it disgusts me.
> Lynn in Fargo- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I hope you have space on that soapbox for me. I hate that the drug
companies spend billions on TV advertising aimed at the lowest common
denominator.

N.

Lynn from Fargo wrote:

> OK - Here's Lynn on her soapbox . . .
> Advertising prescription drugs to potential consumers is immoral and
> frequently offensive. Hundreds of millions of dollars are spent by
> pharmaceutical companies to elicit billions and billions of dollars in
> profits. I believe that is criminal. And I know that it disgusts me.
> Lynn in Fargo

I am not so sure that it is not a bad idea for people to be aware of
medications that might be of some benefit to them. It might even
inspire some people to go and see a doctor about a condition in time for
it to be treated. An added benefit is that the ads tell of the possible
side effects of the medication. Most doctors don't go into great detail
about those side effects. Besides, it may be preferable to some of the
other practises used by drug companies. I have heard it said that
pharmacists know which drug company sales reps have been in town by the
prescriptions they are filling. They use all sorts of enticements to
get doctors to prescribe their products.



It wasn't so long ago that some people were terribly offended by adds
for feminine hygiene products. Yet, if it weren't for those adds, some
women would not be aware that those types of products were even available.

Gloria P wrote:
>
>
> AFAIAC the most insulting is any one that tells you to "ask"
> your doctor for a Rx for a new med. Why bother to go to a doctor?
> Just steal a prescription pad and prescribe them all for yourself.
>
> I much prefer to go to the doctor informed but let HIM do the
> diagnosing and prescribing, after I ask a few questions. He's
> never steered me wrong so far.

Would you prefer to get a prescription for a drug that you have been
informed about and heard the risks of, or would you prefer to get a
prescription for a drug from a company whose salesman just took the
doctor out for a nice dinner, gave him some pens, mugs and a bunch of
free samples?

"Dimitri" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:WKDkl.16600$[email protected]..
> Have you seen the newest Enbrel commercial?
>
> It opens with a woman saying, "I knew rheumatoid arthritis was painful,
> but I didn't know it could attack my joints!"
>
> I you have RA you would know where the pain is coming from. DUH!

I took the ad to mean attack = destroy rather than attack = merely cause
pain.
<shrug>

Dave Smith wrote:
> Gloria P wrote:
>>

>>
>> I much prefer to go to the doctor informed but let HIM do the
>> diagnosing and prescribing, after I ask a few questions. He's
>> never steered me wrong so far.
>
> Would you prefer to get a prescription for a drug that you have been
> informed about and heard the risks of, or would you prefer to get a
> prescription for a drug from a company whose salesman just took the
> doctor out for a nice dinner, gave him some pens, mugs and a bunch of
> free samples?


How "informed" do you feel after the glitzy commercials for drugs?
The only valid parts seem to me to be the side-effects warnings.

gloria p

Dave Smith wrote:
> Would you prefer to get a prescription for a drug that you have been
> informed about and heard the risks of, or would you prefer to get a
> prescription for a drug from a company whose salesman just took the
> doctor out for a nice dinner, gave him some pens, mugs and a bunch of
> free samples?

There are limits on how much of that goes on now. Meals, pens, mugs and
free samples alone are not educational, and the focus for Pharma groups
now is education over blatant promotion.

Of course, the educational programs put on by pharmaceutical companies
is barely-disguised promotion, but there is some genuinely informative
content as well.

On Feb 11, 12:54*pm, Dave Smith
<adavid.sm...@DELETETOREPLYsympatico.ca> wrote:
> Gloria P wrote:
>
> > AFAIAC the most insulting is any one that tells you to "ask"
> > your doctor for a Rx for a new med. *Why bother to go to a doctor?
> > Just steal a prescription pad and prescribe them all for yourself.
>
> > I much prefer to go to the doctor informed but let HIM do the
> > diagnosing and prescribing, after I ask a few questions. *He's
> > never steered me wrong so far.
>
> Would you prefer to get a prescription for a drug that you have been
> informed about and heard the risks of, or would you prefer to get a
> prescription for a drug from a company whose salesman just took the
> doctor out for a nice dinner, gave him some pens, mugs and a bunch of
> free samples?

I don't think anyone listens to those caveats in the TV commercials.
Especially egregious are the commercials where there is a pretend set
up with a fake doctor talking to a patient and lists the potential
problems. In any event, most of those warnings are spoken so fast,
one can't even understand what they are saying. I just absolutely mute
my TV every time one of those comes on. Any reasonably bright person
would know to call a doctor if something unusual occurred after taking
medication.

I'd rather not have all that money spent on commercials, thanks,
regardless of what the salesman does or doesn't do for my doctor. I
trust him implicitly.

N.

Lynn from Fargo wrote:
> OK - Here's Lynn on her soapbox . . .
> Advertising prescription drugs to potential consumers is immoral and
> frequently offensive. Hundreds of millions of dollars are spent by
> pharmaceutical companies to elicit billions and billions of dollars in
> profits. I believe that is criminal. And I know that it disgusts me.


I don't believe it's immoral, but I do believe it's irresponsible.
Prescribers are already aware of new meds and procedures long before the
commercial makes the air, and have already decided whether they are
right for a patients condition.

I do believe that the drug companies outrageous profits generated by
advertising and promotions to lay audiences *are* criminal, given the
price of medications. I don't care when they go on and on about how much
money is invested in R&D, because it pales by comparison to how much the
CEO takes home.

"Dave Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:49931ca9$0$4930$[email protected] ...
> Lynn from Fargo wrote:
>
>> OK - Here's Lynn on her soapbox . . .
>> Advertising prescription drugs to potential consumers is immoral and
>> frequently offensive. Hundreds of millions of dollars are spent by
>> pharmaceutical companies to elicit billions and billions of dollars in
>> profits. I believe that is criminal. And I know that it disgusts me.
>> Lynn in Fargo
>
> I am not so sure that it is not a bad idea for people to be aware of
> medications that might be of some benefit to them. It might even inspire
> some people to go and see a doctor about a condition in time for it to be
> treated. An added benefit is that the ads tell of the possible side
> effects of the medication. Most doctors don't go into great detail about
> those side effects. Besides, it may be preferable to some of the other
> practises used by drug companies. I have heard it said that pharmacists
> know which drug company sales reps have been in town by the prescriptions
> they are filling. They use all sorts of enticements to get doctors to
> prescribe their products.
>
>
>
> It wasn't so long ago that some people were terribly offended by adds for
> feminine hygiene products. Yet, if it weren't for those adds, some women
> would not be aware that those types of products were even available.

Are you kidding me?! Perhaps MEN might not be aware of the different types
of products, but you're completely out of touch with reality if you think a
woman wouldn't. How patronizing.

Jinx

Gloria P wrote:

> How "informed" do you feel after the glitzy commercials for drugs?
> The only valid parts seem to me to be the side-effects warnings.

It's funny to hear how cheerful and upbeat they can sound
while telling you that 'in some cases' side effects such as
death can occur.

nancy

Gloria P wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> Gloria P wrote:
>>>
>
>>>
>>> I much prefer to go to the doctor informed but let HIM do the
>>> diagnosing and prescribing, after I ask a few questions. He's
>>> never steered me wrong so far.
>>
>> Would you prefer to get a prescription for a drug that you have been
>> informed about and heard the risks of, or would you prefer to get a
>> prescription for a drug from a company whose salesman just took the
>> doctor out for a nice dinner, gave him some pens, mugs and a bunch of
>> free samples?
>
>
> How "informed" do you feel after the glitzy commercials for drugs?
> The only valid parts seem to me to be the side-effects warnings.
>
I think that I feel well enough informed to at least ask my doctor about
the drug.... if it deals with a condition I suffer from.

Jinx replied:

>> It wasn't so long ago that some people were terribly offended by adds for
>> feminine hygiene products. Yet, if it weren't for those adds, some women
>> would not be aware that those types of products were even available.
>
> Are you kidding me?! Perhaps MEN might not be aware of the different
> types of products, but you're completely out of touch with reality if you
> think a woman wouldn't. How patronizing.

Haven't you ever seen "Carrie"?

Bob

On Feb 11, 12:48*pm, "Gregory Morrow" <3355k...@zzflkker.cu> wrote:

> ALL of the "geezer - centric" medical ads are incredibly lame and seem
> targeted towards morons...makes watching the nightly network nooze almost
> unbearable. *Bring back cigarette commercials I say...

The worst are the beds, sit down baths, and cheap life insurance
without a medical. Bring back robot insurance ads.

(FYI, that was a Sam Waterston fake ad on SNL. Couldn't find it on
YouTube)