Thread: OT: If you're depressed and still depressed...

On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:20:13 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:

> OT: If you're depressed and still depressed...
>
> Adding Abilefy can help...
>
> ... side effects could result in suicide OR death!
>
> ???
>
> Heck, I'd be happier just staying depressed!!!
>
> Geez...
>
> The magic of modern TV medicine. Where are the TV attorneys, getting me
> $millions for taking such crap on top of crap?!?
>
The one we have out here is for a new gout medication. In a list of
side effects as long as your arm are the possibility of gout attacks
and heart attacks. The ads seem to be one big warning, not a
beaconing - I would never ask my doctor to consider that medication if
I had gout.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

sf <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:20:13 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> OT: If you're depressed and still depressed...
>>
>> Adding Abilefy can help...
>>
>> ... side effects could result in suicide OR death!
>>
>> ???
>>
>> Heck, I'd be happier just staying depressed!!!
>>
>> Geez...
>>
>> The magic of modern TV medicine. Where are the TV attorneys, getting
me
>> $millions for taking such crap on top of crap?!?
>>
> The one we have out here is for a new gout medication. In a list of
> side effects as long as your arm are the possibility of gout attacks
> and heart attacks. The ads seem to be one big warning, not a
> beaconing - I would never ask my doctor to consider that medication if
> I had gout.


sf,

Uloric! My good friend in CA just sent me an email about the stuff. I'm
not too anxious at the moment. I've been doing OK.

Best,

Andy

Andy wrote:
> OT: If you're depressed and still depressed...
>
> Adding Abilefy can help...
>
> ... side effects could result in suicide OR death!
>
> ???
>
> Heck, I'd be happier just staying depressed!!!
>
> Geez...
>
> The magic of modern TV medicine. Where are the TV attorneys, getting me
> $millions for taking such crap on top of crap?!?
>
> Andy


It could just be a seasonal vitamin D deficiency due to the lack of
sunlight in the winter. So take a daily spoonful of cod liver oil
starting about 2 months after the fall equinox until a month before
the spring equinox. (yuck. Might be easier to just shoot oneself)

Bob

On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:20:13 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:

>OT: If you're depressed and still depressed...
>
>Adding Abilefy can help...
>
>... side effects could result in suicide OR death!
>
>???
>
>Heck, I'd be happier just staying depressed!!!
>
>Geez...
>
>The magic of modern TV medicine. Where are the TV attorneys, getting me
>$millions for taking such crap on top of crap?!?
>
>Andy

Ah -- but the first thing to get your attention about those
commercials is that these "still depressed" people are *already* on
meds. So, basically, they're saying, "Drugs not working?! Take MORE
pills!"

:-)

BlueBrooke wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:20:13 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> OT: If you're depressed and still depressed...
>>
>> Adding Abilefy can help...
>>
>> ... side effects could result in suicide OR death!
>>
>> ???
>>
>> Heck, I'd be happier just staying depressed!!!
>>
>> Geez...
>>
>> The magic of modern TV medicine. Where are the TV attorneys, getting me
>> $millions for taking such crap on top of crap?!?
>>
>> Andy
>
> Ah -- but the first thing to get your attention about those
> commercials is that these "still depressed" people are *already* on
> meds. So, basically, they're saying, "Drugs not working?! Take MORE
> pills!"
>
> :-)


The "Sad Clarinet" music and the whiny-voiced announcer in Cymbalta
(sp?) commercials are enough to *make* people depressed.

Bob

On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:22:06 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:

> sf <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:20:13 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> OT: If you're depressed and still depressed...
> >>
> >> Adding Abilefy can help...
> >>
> >> ... side effects could result in suicide OR death!
> >>
> >> ???
> >>
> >> Heck, I'd be happier just staying depressed!!!
> >>
> >> Geez...
> >>
> >> The magic of modern TV medicine. Where are the TV attorneys, getting
> me
> >> $millions for taking such crap on top of crap?!?
> >>
> > The one we have out here is for a new gout medication. In a list of
> > side effects as long as your arm are the possibility of gout attacks
> > and heart attacks. The ads seem to be one big warning, not a
> > beaconing - I would never ask my doctor to consider that medication if
> > I had gout.
>
>
> sf,
>
> Uloric! My good friend in CA just sent me an email about the stuff. I'm
> not too anxious at the moment. I've been doing OK.
>
That's the one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQwE-kfnuvg
My husband recently had a mini-bout with gout and he'd been good - no
alcohol, no shellfish, no red meat. So, he's softening his position
on no more daily pills.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:24:09 -0600, zxcvbob <[email protected]>
wrote:

> It could just be a seasonal vitamin D deficiency due to the lack of
> sunlight in the winter. So take a daily spoonful of cod liver oil
> starting about 2 months after the fall equinox until a month before
> the spring equinox. (yuck. Might be easier to just shoot oneself)

You don't have to taste it anymore. Cod liver oil comes in pill form
now.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
> OT: If you're depressed and still depressed...
>
> Adding Abilefy can help...
>
> ... side effects could result in suicide OR death!
>
> ???
>
> Heck, I'd be happier just staying depressed!!!
>
> Geez...
>
> The magic of modern TV medicine. Where are the TV attorneys, getting me
> $millions for taking such crap on top of crap?!?
>
> Andy


Best side effects commercial EVER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o33tZfqF_M

Dimitri

"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
> OT: If you're depressed and still depressed...

<snip>

> Andy

At a time in my life I was chatting with my doctor and could not decide if I
was depressed or realistic.

Dimitri

On Nov 15, 10:20Â*am, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
> OT: If you're depressed and still depressed...
>
> Adding Abilefy can help...
>
> ... side effects could result in suicide OR death!


Oh, that's nothing. Check this out. And Remeron is one of your milder
anti-depressant, anti anxiety pills.


Remeron Side Effects
Generic Name: mirtazapine

Please note - some side effects for Remeron may not be reported.
Always consult your doctor or healthcare specialist for medical
advice. You may also report side effects to the FDA at http://www.fda.gov/medwatch/
or 1-800-FDA-1088 (1-800-332-1088).


Side Effects of Remeron - for the Consumer

Remeron
All medicines may cause side effects, but many people have no, or
minor, side effects. Check with your doctor if any of these most
COMMON side effects persist or become bothersome when using Remeron:

Abnormal dreams; abnormal thinking; constipation; dizziness;
drowsiness; dry mouth; flu symptoms; increased appetite; weakness;
weight gain.

Seek medical attention right away if any of these SEVERE side effects
occur when using Remeron:
Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing;
tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue);
mouth sores; new or worsening agitation, panic attacks,
aggressiveness, impulsiveness, irritability, hostility, exaggerated
feeling of well-being, trouble sleeping, restlessness, or inability to
sit still; red, swollen, blistered, or peeling skin; seizures; severe
headache or dizziness; sluggishness; suicidal thoughts or actions;
symptoms of infection (eg, fever, chills, sore throat); tremors;
unusual or severe mental or mood changes; worsening of depression.


Remeron Side Effects - for the Professional

Remeron
Associated with Discontinuation of Treatment
Approximately 16% of the 453 patients who received Remeron®
(mirtazapine) Tablets in US 6-week controlled clinical trials
discontinued treatment due to an adverse experience, compared to 7% of
the 361 placebo-treated patients in those studies. The most common
events (≥1%) associated with discontinuation and considered to be drug
related (i.e., those events associated with dropout at a rate at least
twice that of placebo) included:

Common Adverse Events Associated with Discontinuation of Treatment in
6-Week US Remeron Trials
Adverse Event Percentage of Patients Discontinuing with Adverse Event
Remeron
(n=453) Placebo
(n=361)
Somnolence 10.4% 2.2%
Nausea 1.5% 0%
Commonly Observed Adverse Events in US Controlled Clinical Trials
The most commonly observed adverse events associated with the use of
Remeron (mirtazapine) Tablets (incidence of 5% or greater) and not
observed at an equivalent incidence among placebo-treated patients
(Remeron incidence at least twice that for placebo) were:

Common Treatment-Emergent Adverse Events Associated with the Use of
Remeron in 6-Week US Trials
Adverse Event Percentage of Patients Reporting Adverse Event
Remeron
(n=453) Placebo
(n=361)
Somnolence 54% 18%
Increased Appetite 17% 2%
Weight Gain 12% 2%
Dizziness 7% 3%
Adverse Events Occurring at an Incidence of 1% or More Among Remeron-
Treated Patients
The table that follows enumerates adverse events that occurred at an
incidence of 1% or more, and were more frequent than in the placebo
group, among Remeron (mirtazapine) Tablets-treated patients who
participated in short-term US placebo-controlled trials in which
patients were dosed in a range of 5 to 60 mg/day. This table shows the
percentage of patients in each group who had at least 1 episode of an
event at some time during their treatment. Reported adverse events
were classified using a standard COSTART-based dictionary terminology.

The prescriber should be aware that these figures cannot be used to
predict the incidence of side effects in the course of usual medical
practice where patient characteristics and other factors differ from
those which prevailed in the clinical trials. Similarly, the cited
frequencies cannot be compared with figures obtained from other
investigations involving different treatments, uses, and
investigators. The cited figures, however, do provide the prescribing
physician with some basis for estimating the relative contribution of
drug and nondrug factors to the side-effect incidence rate in the
population studied.

INCIDENCE OF ADVERSE CLINICAL EXPERIENCES* (≥1%) IN SHORT-TERM US
CONTROLLED STUDIES
Body System
Adverse Clinical Experience Remeron
(n=453) Placebo
(n=361)
*
Events reported by at least 1% of patients treated with Remeron are
included, except the following events which had an incidence on
placebo greater than or equal to Remeron: headache, infection, pain,
chest pain, palpitation, tachycardia, postural hypotension, nausea,
dyspepsia, diarrhea, flatulence, insomnia, nervousness, libido
decreased, hypertonia, pharyngitis, rhinitis, sweating, amblyopia,
tinnitus, taste perversion.
Body as a Whole
Asthenia 8% 5%
Flu Syndrome 5% 3%
Back Pain 2% 1%
Digestive System
Dry Mouth 25% 15%
Increased Appetite 17% 2%
Constipation 13% 7%
Metabolic and Nutritional Disorders
Weight Gain 12% 2%
Peripheral Edema 2% 1%
Edema 1% 0%
Musculoskeletal System
Myalgia 2% 1%
Nervous System
Somnolence 54% 18%
Dizziness 7% 3%
Abnormal Dreams 4% 1%
Thinking Abnormal 3% 1%
Tremor 2% 1%
Confusion 2% 0%
Respiratory System
Dyspnea 1% 0%
Urogenital System
Urinary Frequency 2% 1%
ECG Changes
The electrocardiograms for 338 patients who received Remeron
(mirtazapine) Tablets and 261 patients who received placebo in 6-week,
placebo-controlled trials were analyzed. Prolongation in QTc ≥500 msec
was not observed among mirtazapine-treated patients; mean change in
QTc was +1.6 msec for mirtazapine and –3.1 msec for placebo.
Mirtazapine was associated with a mean increase in heart rate of 3.4
bpm, compared to 0.8 bpm for placebo. The clinical significance of
these changes is unknown.

Other Adverse Events Observed During the Premarketing Evaluation of
Remeron
During its premarketing assessment, multiple doses of Remeron
(mirtazapine) Tablets were administered to 2796 patients in clinical
studies. The conditions and duration of exposure to mirtazapine varied
greatly, and included (in overlapping categories) open and double-
blind studies, uncontrolled and controlled studies, inpatient and
outpatient studies, fixed-dose and titration studies. Untoward events
associated with this exposure were recorded by clinical investigators
using terminology of their own choosing. Consequently, it is not
possible to provide a meaningful estimate of the proportion of
individuals experiencing adverse events without first grouping similar
types of untoward events into a smaller number of standardized event
categories.

In the tabulations that follow, reported adverse events were
classified using a standard COSTART-based dictionary terminology. The
frequencies presented, therefore, represent the proportion of the 2796
patients exposed to multiple doses of Remeron who experienced an event
of the type cited on at least 1 occasion while receiving Remeron. All
reported events are included except those already listed in the
previous table, those adverse experiences subsumed under COSTART terms
that are either overly general or excessively specific so as to be
uninformative, and those events for which a drug cause was very
remote. It is important to emphasize that, although the events
reported occurred during treatment with Remeron, they were not
necessarily caused by it.

Events are further categorized by body system and listed in order of
decreasing frequency according to the following definitions: frequent
adverse events are those occurring on 1 or more occasions in at least
1/100 patients; infrequent adverse events are those occurring in 1/100
to 1/1000 patients; rare events are those occurring in fewer than
1/1000 patients. Only those events not already listed in the previous
table appear in this listing. Events of major clinical importance are
also described in the WARNINGS and PRECAUTIONS sections.

Body as a Whole: frequent: malaise, abdominal pain, abdominal syndrome
acute; infrequent: chills, fever, face edema, ulcer, photosensitivity
reaction, neck rigidity, neck pain, abdomen enlarged; rare:
cellulitis, chest pain substernal.

Cardiovascular System: frequent: hypertension, vasodilatation;
infrequent: angina pectoris, myocardial infarction, bradycardia,
ventricular extrasystoles, syncope, migraine, hypotension; rare:
atrial arrhythmia, bigeminy, vascular headache, pulmonary embolus,
cerebral ischemia, cardiomegaly, phlebitis, left heart failure.

Digestive System: frequent: vomiting, anorexia; infrequent:
eructation, glossitis, cholecystitis, nausea and vomiting, gum
hemorrhage, stomatitis, colitis, liver function tests abnormal; rare:
tongue discoloration, ulcerative stomatitis, salivary gland
enlargement, increased salivation, intestinal obstruction,
pancreatitis, aphthous stomatitis, cirrhosis of liver, gastritis,
gastroenteritis, oral moniliasis, tongue edema.

Endocrine System: rare: goiter, hypothyroidism.

Hemic and Lymphatic System: rare: lymphadenopathy, leukopenia,
petechia, anemia, thrombocytopenia, lymphocytosis, pancytopenia.

Metabolic and Nutritional Disorders: frequent: thirst; infrequent:
dehydration, weight loss; rare: gout, SGOT increased, healing
abnormal, acid phosphatase increased, SGPT increased, diabetes
mellitus, hyponatremia.

Musculoskeletal System: frequent: myasthenia, arthralgia; infrequent:
arthritis, tenosynovitis; rare: pathologic fracture, osteoporosis
fracture, bone pain, myositis, tendon rupture, arthrosis, bursitis.

Nervous System: frequent: hypesthesia, apathy, depression,
hypokinesia, vertigo, twitching, agitation, anxiety, amnesia,
hyperkinesia, paresthesia; infrequent: ataxia, delirium, delusions,
depersonalization, dyskinesia, extrapyramidal syndrome, libido
increased, coordination abnormal, dysarthria, hallucinations, manic
reaction, neurosis, dystonia, hostility, reflexes increased, emotional
lability, euphoria, paranoid reaction; rare: aphasia, nystagmus,
akathisia (psychomotor restlessness), stupor, dementia, diplopia, drug
dependence, paralysis, grand mal convulsion, hypotonia, myoclonus,
psychotic depression, withdrawal syndrome, serotonin syndrome.

Respiratory System: frequent: cough increased, sinusitis; infrequent:
epistaxis, bronchitis, asthma, pneumonia; rare: asphyxia, laryngitis,
pneumothorax, hiccup.

Skin and Appendages: frequent: pruritus, rash; infrequent: acne,
exfoliative dermatitis, dry skin, herpes simplex, alopecia; rare:
urticaria, herpes zoster, skin hypertrophy, seborrhea, skin ulcer.

Special Senses: infrequent: eye pain, abnormality of accommodation,
conjunctivitis, deafness, keratoconjunctivitis, lacrimation disorder,
glaucoma, hyperacusis, ear pain; rare: blepharitis, partial transitory
deafness, otitis media, taste loss, parosmia.

Urogenital System: frequent: urinary tract infection; infrequent:
kidney calculus, cystitis, dysuria, urinary incontinence, urinary
retention, vaginitis, hematuria, breast pain, amenorrhea,
dysmenorrhea, leukorrhea, impotence; rare: polyuria, urethritis,
metrorrhagia, menorrhagia, abnormal ejaculation, breast engorgement,
breast enlargement, urinary urgency.

Other Adverse Events Observed During Postmarketing Evaluation of
Remeron
Adverse events reported since market introduction, which were
temporally (but not necessarily causally) related to mirtazapine
therapy, include 4 cases of the ventricular arrhythmia torsades de
pointes. In 3 of the 4 cases, however, concomitant drugs were
implicated. All patients recovered.

Cases of severe skin reactions, including Stevens-Johnson Syndrome,
bullous dermatitis, erythema multiforme and toxic epidermal necrolysis
have also been reported.

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Side Effects by Body System

Nervous system
Although the exact incidence has not been reported, paresthesia
appears to be a relatively common side effect of mirtazapine. Patients
typically experience paresthesia in the extremities or generalized in
the body. However, several cases of oral paresthesia associated with
the orally disintegrating tablet have been reported. Patients have
described a sensation of swelling in the mouth, numbness, and
anesthesia. The symptoms occur shortly after ingestion and resolve
after a few hours.

Nearly all selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, mixed serotonin/
norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors, and tricyclic antidepressants
cause sleep abnormalities to some extent. These antidepressants have
marked dose-dependent effects on rapid eye movement (REM) sleep,
causing reductions in the overall amount of REM sleep over the night
and delays the first entry into REM sleep (increased REM sleep onset
latency (ROL)), both in healthy subjects and depressed patients. The
antidepressants that increase serotonin function appear to have the
greatest effect on REM sleep. The reduction in REM sleep is greatest
early in treatment, but gradually returns towards baseline during long-
term therapy; however, ROL remains long. Following discontinuation of
therapy the amount of REM sleep tends to rebound. Some of these drugs
(i.e., bupropion, mirtazapine, nefazodone, trazodone, trimipramine)
appear to have a modest or minimal effect on REM sleep.

Nervous system side effects including somnolence (56%), headache
(12%), dizziness (7% to 12%), insomnia (8%), abnormal dreams (4%),
abnormal thinking (3%), confusion (2%), tremor (2%), sleep
abnormalities, and paresthesia have been reported. Activation of mania
and seizures have occurred rarely. One case of seizures, one case of
akathisia, and one patient with a transient ischemic attack have also
been reported.

Gastrointestinal
Gastrointestinal side effects including dry mouth (25%), increased
appetite (17%), and constipation (13%) have been reported. Other
reported gastrointestinal adverse effects have included diarrhea (9%),
nausea (4%), vomiting, anorexia, cholecystitis, glossitis, and
colitis. One case of subclinical pancreatitis has also been reported.

Metabolic
Metabolic side effects have been reported. Nonfasting triglyceride
increases to greater than 20% above the normal upper limits have been
reported in 15% of patients receiving mirtazapine in clinical trials.
Weight gain has been reported in 12% of patients. Less frequently
reported were peripheral edema (2%), thirst, and weight loss. In one
small study, mirtazapine appeared to improve glucose tolerance by
reducing cortisol secretion.

Musculoskeletal
Musculoskeletal side effects including myalgia, arthralgia (2.4%), and
myasthenia have been reported in less than 2% of patients receiving
mirtazapine.

Numerous cases of mirtazapine- induced arthralgia have been reported.
Symptoms tend to appear within 2 to 22 days of starting mirtazapine
and resolve shortly after discontinuation of treatment.

Hepatic
Hepatic side effects including liver function test abnormalities
(primarily ALT (SGPT) elevations greater than three times normal
concentrations) have been reported in 2% of patients receiving
mirtazapine. Patients typically did not develop signs or symptoms of
hepatic dysfunction

A case of mirtazapine- associated, dose-dependent asymptomatic
elevation of liver enzymes has been reported. In this patient,
elevated liver enzymes were discovered 3 months after starting
mirtazapine (30 mg/day) and following a dose reduction (15 mg/day)
liver enzymes decreased, but remained above normal. Liver enzymes
returned to normal 2 months after discontinuation of mirtazapine.

Respiratory
Respiratory side effects including dyspnea (1%) have been reported.

Cardiovascular
Cardiovascular side effects including hypertension, vasodilation,
angina pectoris, bradycardia, and ventricular extrasystoles have been
reported infrequently.

Tachycardia, palpitation, chest pain, and postural hypotension were
reported by at least 1% of patients in clinical trials, however, the
incidence was less than that of placebo. ECG changes were also noted
in 3% of patients. The incidence was similar to that of placebo and
the changes were not considered clinically significant.

Hematologic
Coagulopathy (i.e., ecchymosis) developed in a patient three days
after initiating mirtazapine therapy (30 mg/day). Following
discontinuation of mirtazapine, prothrombin time, activated partial
thromboplastin time, and international normalized ratio returned to
normal and symptoms of ecchymosis disappeared.

Hematologic and lymphatic side effects such as lymphadenopathy,
leukopenia, anemia, petechiae, thrombocytopenia, lymphocytosis, and
pancytopenia have been reported but are uncommon. Agranulocytosis
occurred in two patients and neutropenia in one patient during
premarketing clinical trials. One case of coagulopathy has been
reported.

Dermatologic
Dermatologic side effects including pruritus, rash, acne, dry skin,
and alopecia have been reported infrequently. Postmarketing cases of
severe skin reactions, including Stevens-Johnson Syndrome, bullous
dermatitis, erythema multiforme and toxic epidermal necrolysis have
also been reported.

General
General side effects have included asthenia (8%), flu syndrome (5%),
and back pain (2%).

Ocular
Ocular side effects including eye pain, abnormality of accommodation,
conjunctivitis, lacrimation, and glaucoma have been reported
infrequently. A case of palinopsia has also been recorded.

Genitourinary
Genitourinary side effects including urinary frequency (2%), urinary
tract infection, kidney calculus, cystitis, urinary incontinence,
vaginitis, hematuria, impotence, and polyuria have been reported.

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sf wrote on Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:25:03 -0800:

>> It could just be a seasonal vitamin D deficiency due to the
>> lack of sunlight in the winter. So take a daily spoonful of
>> cod liver oil starting about 2 months after the fall equinox
>> until a month before the spring equinox. (yuck. Might be
>> easier to just shoot oneself)

> You don't have to taste it anymore. Cod liver oil comes in
> pill form now.

The gelatin capsule was introduced for fish oils in the late 1940's.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"Dimitri" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]..
>> OT: If you're depressed and still depressed...
>>
>> Adding Abilefy can help...
>>
>> ... side effects could result in suicide OR death!
>>
>> ???
>>
>> Heck, I'd be happier just staying depressed!!!
>>
>> Geez...
>>
>> The magic of modern TV medicine. Where are the TV attorneys, getting
>> me $millions for taking such crap on top of crap?!?
>>
>> Andy
>
>
> Best side effects commercial EVER.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o33tZfqF_M
>
> Dimitri


Dimitri,

LOLOLOL!!!

"Seeing the dead!"

Thanks,

Andy
LOL!

On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:56:18 -0500, "James Silverton"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> sf wrote on Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:25:03 -0800:
>
> >> It could just be a seasonal vitamin D deficiency due to the
> >> lack of sunlight in the winter. So take a daily spoonful of
> >> cod liver oil starting about 2 months after the fall equinox
> >> until a month before the spring equinox. (yuck. Might be
> >> easier to just shoot oneself)
>
> > You don't have to taste it anymore. Cod liver oil comes in
> > pill form now.
>
> The gelatin capsule was introduced for fish oils in the late 1940's.

You can't prove it by my experience.

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:24:09 -0600, zxcvbob <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> It could just be a seasonal vitamin D deficiency due to the lack of
>> sunlight in the winter. So take a daily spoonful of cod liver oil
>> starting about 2 months after the fall equinox until a month before
>> the spring equinox. (yuck. Might be easier to just shoot oneself)
>
> You don't have to taste it anymore. Cod liver oil comes in pill form
> now.
>


I think if I blend it into my banana-berry or peach-apricot protein
shake in the morning, I won't taste it. But I'm afraid to test that
theory...

Bob

On Nov 15, 12:29*pm, BlueBrooke <bluebro...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:20:13 -0600, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >OT: If you're depressed and still depressed...
>
> >Adding Abilefy can help...
>
> >... side effects could result in suicide OR death!
>
> >???
>
> >Heck, I'd be happier just staying depressed!!!
>
> >Geez...
>
> >The magic of modern TV medicine. Where are the TV attorneys, getting me
> >$millions for taking such crap on top of crap?!?
>
> >Andy
>
> Ah -- but the first thing to get your attention about those
> commercials is that these "still depressed" people are *already* on
> meds. *So, basically, they're saying, "Drugs not working?! *Take MORE
> pills!" *
>
> :-) *

It worked in high school.

--Bryan

>> ... side effects could result in suicide OR death!

I just love those lists of side effects done by those guys who talk so fast
you get every sixth word ............. spontaneous testicular explosion
...................... limbs falling off .................... blindness
...................... total paralysis ............... brain hemorrhaging
.................... loss of one or more senses ..................... intense
offensive body odor .......................

But, Gawd, those commercials look pretty.

Steve

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sf <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:24:09 -0600, zxcvbob <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> It could just be a seasonal vitamin D deficiency due to the lack of
>> sunlight in the winter. So take a daily spoonful of cod liver oil
>> starting about 2 months after the fall equinox until a month before
>> the spring equinox. (yuck. Might be easier to just shoot oneself)
>
> You don't have to taste it anymore. Cod liver oil comes in pill form
> now.

So does pure vitamin D. Screw the oil, in any form.

In article <ic1i4d$nai$[email protected]>,
"Nunya Bidnits" <[email protected]> wrote:

> sf <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:24:09 -0600, zxcvbob <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> It could just be a seasonal vitamin D deficiency due to the lack of
> >> sunlight in the winter. So take a daily spoonful of cod liver oil
> >> starting about 2 months after the fall equinox until a month before
> >> the spring equinox. (yuck. Might be easier to just shoot oneself)
> >
> > You don't have to taste it anymore. Cod liver oil comes in pill form
> > now.
>
> So does pure vitamin D. Screw the oil, in any form.

I'm not too keen on taking vitamin supplements. I'd rather get my
nutrition by eating food. Still, I spend about US$10 each year on a
bottle of 365 tablets of 100% of all the common vitamins. I just
checked, and "D" is in there. That's about US$.03 per day. That's
pretty cheap insurance.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email protected]

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> BlueBrooke wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:20:13 -0600, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> OT: If you're depressed and still depressed...
> >>
> >> Adding Abilefy can help...
> >>
> >> ... side effects could result in suicide OR death!
> >>
> >> ???
> >>
> >> Heck, I'd be happier just staying depressed!!!
> >>
> >> Geez...
> >>
> >> The magic of modern TV medicine. Where are the TV attorneys, getting me
> >> $millions for taking such crap on top of crap?!?
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> > Ah -- but the first thing to get your attention about those
> > commercials is that these "still depressed" people are *already* on
> > meds. So, basically, they're saying, "Drugs not working?! Take MORE
> > pills!"
> >
> > :-)
>
>
> The "Sad Clarinet" music and the whiny-voiced announcer in Cymbalta
> (sp?) commercials are enough to *make* people depressed.

Maybe there's a Hannibal Lecter out there who it will make hungry
instead. One can hope anyway.
>
> Bob