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Thread: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

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    jmcquown Guest

    Default OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    Yep, it quotes newsgroup replies "correctly". That's about all it does
    AFAIC. I find it's a PITA to use. You have to jump through hoops to
    set message filters. It tried to take over as my email account even
    though I didn't set it as the default. I turned off the email options
    but it's still trying.

    And those buttons Nancy was talking about. Drag the Reply button to the
    toolkit... I did, it's still there on the screen. This has got to be
    the most unfriendly user interface I've encountered in years.

    OB Food: Half a fried egg sandwich for breakfast.

    Jill <--going back to Windows mail

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    Kalmia Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    Oh - I thought you were talkin' about that cheap Thunderbird WINE. I can remember when it sold for 89 cents.

  3. #3
    Gary Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    jmcquown wrote:
    >
    > Yep, it quotes newsgroup replies "correctly". That's about all it does
    > AFAIC. I find it's a PITA to use. You have to jump through hoops to
    > set message filters. It tried to take over as my email account even
    > though I didn't set it as the default. I turned off the email options
    > but it's still trying.
    >
    > And those buttons Nancy was talking about. Drag the Reply button to the
    > toolkit... I did, it's still there on the screen. This has got to be
    > the most unfriendly user interface I've encountered in years.


    I'm still using ancient Netscape 4.7 for email and newsgroup reading. I'm
    very used to it and I love it. No need to upgrade as it does all that I
    want it to. "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

    Gary

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    Gary Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    Kalmia wrote:
    >
    > Oh - I thought you were talkin' about that cheap Thunderbird WINE. I can remember when it sold for 89 cents.


    LOL! I never did try that.

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    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    On 02/09/2012 1:04 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    > Yep, it quotes newsgroup replies "correctly". That's about all it does
    > AFAIC. I find it's a PITA to use. You have to jump through hoops to
    > set message filters. It tried to take over as my email account even
    > though I didn't set it as the default. I turned off the email options
    > but it's still trying.
    >
    > And those buttons Nancy was talking about. Drag the Reply button to the
    > toolkit... I did, it's still there on the screen. This has got to be
    > the most unfriendly user interface I've encountered in years.
    >


    I like Thunderbird. It is easy to use. I have to be careful these days
    when I reply to a post because it was update a few days ago and the
    reply is send to the previous poster. I have to remember to click on
    "follow up".

    I wish that it would filter cross posted stuff.



    > OB Food: Half a fried egg sandwich for breakfast.


    Pea meal bacon, poached egg and whole grain toast with peach jam.



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    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    On 02/09/2012 1:18 PM, Gary wrote:
    > jmcquown wrote:
    >>
    >> Yep, it quotes newsgroup replies "correctly". That's about all it does
    >> AFAIC. I find it's a PITA to use. You have to jump through hoops to
    >> set message filters. It tried to take over as my email account even
    >> though I didn't set it as the default. I turned off the email options
    >> but it's still trying.
    >>
    >> And those buttons Nancy was talking about. Drag the Reply button to the
    >> toolkit... I did, it's still there on the screen. This has got to be
    >> the most unfriendly user interface I've encountered in years.

    >
    > I'm still using ancient Netscape 4.7 for email and newsgroup reading. I'm
    > very used to it and I love it. No need to upgrade as it does all that I
    > want it to. "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."


    I used to use NetScape. Thunderbird is so similar it was more like an
    upgrade than a change.


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    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:04:46 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

    > Yep, it quotes newsgroup replies "correctly". That's about all it does
    > AFAIC. I find it's a PITA to use. You have to jump through hoops to
    > set message filters. It tried to take over as my email account even
    > though I didn't set it as the default. I turned off the email options
    > but it's still trying.
    >
    > And those buttons Nancy was talking about. Drag the Reply button to the
    > toolkit... I did, it's still there on the screen. This has got to be
    > the most unfriendly user interface I've encountered in years.


    All this sounds like user error. Usually when you have low
    expectations, people tend to tailor the situation to fit those
    expectations. Take a deep breath and approach it unbiased. It's
    certainly miles ahead of any Windows MUA.

    -sw

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    Kalmia Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    On Sunday, September 2, 2012 1:20:01 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
    > Kalmia wrote:
    >
    > >

    >
    > > Oh - I thought you were talkin' about that cheap Thunderbird WINE. I can remember when it sold for 89 cents.

    >
    >
    >
    > LOL! I never did try that.


    I think that Ripple was Dom Perignon next to T-bird.

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    Gary Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    Kalmia wrote:
    >
    > On Sunday, September 2, 2012 1:20:01 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
    > > Kalmia wrote:
    > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > > Oh - I thought you were talkin' about that cheap Thunderbird WINE. I can remember when it sold for 89 cents.

    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > LOL! I never did try that.

    >
    > I think that Ripple was Dom Perignon next to T-bird.


    I do remember Boones Farm Apple wine and Andre champaigne. heheheh Cheap
    but it did the trick in those days. I've been tempted to buy one of those
    lately for old times sake but it's kind of embarrassing. You know the store
    owners will look at you like you're some cheap drunk. meheheh

    G.

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    Janet Bostwick Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:04:46 -0400, jmcquown <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Yep, it quotes newsgroup replies "correctly". That's about all it does
    >AFAIC. I find it's a PITA to use. You have to jump through hoops to
    >set message filters. It tried to take over as my email account even
    >though I didn't set it as the default. I turned off the email options
    >but it's still trying.
    >
    >And those buttons Nancy was talking about. Drag the Reply button to the
    >toolkit... I did, it's still there on the screen. This has got to be
    >the most unfriendly user interface I've encountered in years.
    >
    >OB Food: Half a fried egg sandwich for breakfast.
    >
    >Jill <--going back to Windows mail

    I thought that you meant the cheap wine. Is it still being made?
    Janet US

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    Janet Bostwick Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 10:52:54 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Sunday, September 2, 2012 1:20:01 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
    >> Kalmia wrote:
    >>
    >> >

    >>
    >> > Oh - I thought you were talkin' about that cheap Thunderbird WINE. I can remember when it sold for 89 cents.

    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> LOL! I never did try that.

    >
    >I think that Ripple was Dom Perignon next to T-bird.


    I had my first Ripple in a tony neighborhood in New Jersey. I was
    impressed -- 'course, it was the first wine that I had ever had. I
    wonder now why that woman served Ripple. There must have been
    something else available for a lady's(sp?) afternoon.
    Janet US

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    pltrgyst Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    On 9/2/12 1:04 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    >.... You have to jump through hoops to set message filters.


    Creating a filter for a particular USEnet poster takes three clicks.
    Right click on the address; left click on "Create filter from"; left
    click on "OK."

    If that's "jump[ing] through hoops," your standards are awfully damned
    high -- and not likely to be met by anything originating from Microsoft.


    >It tried to take over as my email account even
    > though I didn't set it as the default.
    > I turned off the email options
    > but it's still trying.


    "It" does not and is not. You simply don't know what you're doing, on
    several software levels.

    > And those buttons Nancy was talking about. Drag the Reply button to the
    > toolkit... I did, it's still there on the screen. This has got to be
    > the most unfriendly user interface I've encountered in years.


    You might try not blaming the software for your own blind spots.

    -- Larry


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    Jim Elbrecht Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 12:40:13 -0600, Janet Bostwick
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    -snip-
    >I thought that you meant the cheap wine. Is it still being made?


    Sure is--- and it still ain't bad. Just had a bottle for old time's
    sake a couple years ago.

    Some great old labels, here-
    http://www.bumwine.com/

    Jim

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    Kalmia Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    On Sunday, September 2, 2012 2:28:28 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
    > Kalmia wrote:
    >
    > >

    >
    > > On Sunday, September 2, 2012 1:20:01 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:

    >
    > > > Kalmia wrote:

    >
    > > >

    >
    > > > >

    >
    > > >

    >
    > > > > Oh - I thought you were talkin' about that cheap Thunderbird WINE. I can remember when it sold for 89 cents.

    >
    > > >

    >
    > > >

    >
    > > >

    >
    > > > LOL! I never did try that.

    >
    > >

    >
    > > I think that Ripple was Dom Perignon next to T-bird.

    >
    >
    >
    > I do remember Boones Farm Apple wine and Andre champaigne. heheheh Cheap
    >
    > but it did the trick in those days. I've been tempted to buy one of those
    >
    > lately for old times sake but it's kind of embarrassing. You know the store
    >
    > owners will look at you like you're some cheap drunk. meheheh
    >
    >
    >
    > G.


    Tell 'em it's for a 70s party - or just smile and say nothing. They're lucky to still have customers. Or mix it in with a bottle of decent champagne or sherry.

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    Pico Rico Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird


    "Jim Elbrecht" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 12:40:13 -0600, Janet Bostwick
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > -snip-
    >>I thought that you meant the cheap wine. Is it still being made?

    >
    > Sure is--- and it still ain't bad. Just had a bottle for old time's
    > sake a couple years ago.
    >
    > Some great old labels, here-
    > http://www.bumwine.com/
    >
    > Jim


    that site is a good read.



  16. #16
    dsi1 Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    On Sunday, September 2, 2012 8:40:13 AM UTC-10, Janet Bostwick wrote:
    > On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 13:04:46 -0400, jmcquown <[email protected]>
    >
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > >Yep, it quotes newsgroup replies "correctly". That's about all it does

    >
    > >AFAIC. I find it's a PITA to use. You have to jump through hoops to

    >
    > >set message filters. It tried to take over as my email account even

    >
    > >though I didn't set it as the default. I turned off the email options

    >
    > >but it's still trying.

    >
    > >

    >
    > >And those buttons Nancy was talking about. Drag the Reply button to the

    >
    > >toolkit... I did, it's still there on the screen. This has got to be

    >
    > >the most unfriendly user interface I've encountered in years.

    >
    > >

    >
    > >OB Food: Half a fried egg sandwich for breakfast.

    >
    > >

    >
    > >Jill <--going back to Windows mail

    >
    > I thought that you meant the cheap wine. Is it still being made?
    >
    > Janet US


    Thunderbird is a classic product used in punchlines. It's supercharged with extra alcohol and cheap. It's great for wineos with not a lot of dough. It's an honest product.

  17. #17
    Janet Wilder Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    On 9/2/2012 12:04 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    > Yep, it quotes newsgroup replies "correctly". That's about all it does
    > AFAIC. I find it's a PITA to use. You have to jump through hoops to
    > set message filters. It tried to take over as my email account even
    > though I didn't set it as the default. I turned off the email options
    > but it's still trying.
    >
    > And those buttons Nancy was talking about. Drag the Reply button to the
    > toolkit... I did, it's still there on the screen. This has got to be
    > the most unfriendly user interface I've encountered in years.
    >
    > OB Food: Half a fried egg sandwich for breakfast.
    >
    > Jill <--going back to Windows mail


    Honestly, Jill, I don't have any of your problems with Thunderbird.

    I only use it as a newsreader and one hardly ever used email account. I
    have tried Agent and and a couple of other free ones and I like the way
    Thunderbird works best.

    --
    Janet Wilder
    Way-the-heck-south Texas
    Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

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    Ema Nymton Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    On 9/2/2012 12:04 PM, jmcquown wrote:

    > And those buttons Nancy was talking about. Drag the Reply button to the
    > toolkit... I did, it's still there on the screen. This has got to be
    > the most unfriendly user interface I've encountered in years.


    That worked for me, pre-Nancy, but I am sorry yours didn't work. I
    mentioned those instructions earlier, so feel free to ignore it.
    Computers, we can't live with them, can't live without them.

    Becca


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    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: OT: I Hate Thunderbird

    On 02/09/2012 5:26 PM, Ema Nymton wrote:
    > On 9/2/2012 12:04 PM, jmcquown wrote:
    >
    >> And those buttons Nancy was talking about. Drag the Reply button to the
    >> toolkit... I did, it's still there on the screen. This has got to be
    >> the most unfriendly user interface I've encountered in years.

    >
    > That worked for me, pre-Nancy, but I am sorry yours didn't work. I
    > mentioned those instructions earlier, so feel free to ignore it.
    > Computers, we can't live with them, can't live without them.
    >



    I think I am having the same problem as Jill. I have tried all sorts of
    things to delete, remove, or move the "reply" icon, which now sends the
    post to the sender instead of to the group. My program was updated
    yesterday <?> and this was not a problem before. I am patting myself on
    the back on this post for having clicked on Follow Up instead of Reply.


  20. #20
    jmcquown Guest

    Default Re: I Hate Thunderbird

    "Gary" wrote in message news:[email protected]..

    Kalmia wrote:
    >
    > Oh - I thought you were talkin' about that cheap Thunderbird WINE. I can
    > remember when it sold for 89 cents.


    LOL! I never did try that.


    Neither did I... although I do remember Boone's Farm from back in the day

    Jill


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