Thread: OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!

On Sep 11, 10:32*am, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
> OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>
> Over the weekend I heard construction up the block. I thought it
> was a neighbor construction, until today. I pulled up my
> driveway and there were trucks up and down the street.
>
> I got out of the car and talked to a worker in his truck, asking
> what's the big deal?" He said a new sewer system. "The whole
> street?" Yes he said. He pointed to a stake on my curb where
> I'll tap into.
>
> The worker was surprised I hadn't heard, saying it's been
> planned for years! Serves me right for not attending township
> meetings!!! Geez!
>
> So after more than 50 years of septic tank usage, by next spring
> that will be a thing of the past!
>
> First thing is add a garbage disposal.
>
> Only potential problem will be getting my neighbor's permission
> to dig a ditch across the side of his front yard and then
> replacing the damage. That or wind and weave the drain pipe up
> and around, staying on my property while minding my white pine
> root systems, etc..
>
> The man I spoke to said it will be finished in two months but I
> have some homework to do on the matter. It's been septic for so
> long, what's a couple more months! :-)

Guess you won't have to use the outhouse anymore.

In article <[email protected]>, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:

> OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>
> Over the weekend I heard construction up the block. I thought it
> was a neighbor construction, until today. I pulled up my
> driveway and there were trucks up and down the street.
>
> I got out of the car and talked to a worker in his truck, asking
> what's the big deal?" He said a new sewer system. "The whole
> street?" Yes he said. He pointed to a stake on my curb where
> I'll tap into.
>
> The worker was surprised I hadn't heard, saying it's been
> planned for years! Serves me right for not attending township
> meetings!!! Geez!
>
> So after more than 50 years of septic tank usage, by next spring
> that will be a thing of the past!
>
> First thing is add a garbage disposal.
>
> Only potential problem will be getting my neighbor's permission
> to dig a ditch across the side of his front yard and then
> replacing the damage. That or wind and weave the drain pipe up
> and around, staying on my property while minding my white pine
> root systems, etc..
>
> The man I spoke to said it will be finished in two months but I
> have some homework to do on the matter. It's been septic for so
> long, what's a couple more months! :-)

have the neighbor fail to grant permission and then you can continue to use your
septic tank and not have to pay for a sewer hookup

On Sep 11, 10:32*am, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
> OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>
> Over the weekend I heard construction up the block. I thought it
> was a neighbor construction, until today. I pulled up my
> driveway and there were trucks up and down the street.
>
> I got out of the car and talked to a worker in his truck, asking
> what's the big deal?" He said a new sewer system. "The whole
> street?" Yes he said. He pointed to a stake on my curb where
> I'll tap into.
>
> The worker was surprised I hadn't heard, saying it's been
> planned for years! Serves me right for not attending township
> meetings!!! Geez!
>
> So after more than 50 years of septic tank usage, by next spring
> that will be a thing of the past!
>
> First thing is add a garbage disposal.

I'd replace my drain pipes, first. Have you looked at them lately?

>
> Only potential problem will be getting my neighbor's permission
> to dig a ditch across the side of his front yard and then
> replacing the damage. That or wind and weave the drain pipe up
> and around, staying on my property while minding my white pine
> root systems, etc..

You want your sewer pipe to run as straight as possible into the main
sewer, to prevent backups. You also want it far from any roots that
will bore into the pipe.

>
> The man I spoke to said it will be finished in two months but I
> have some homework to do on the matter. It's been septic for so
> long, what's a couple more months! :-)

You may be fine with septic, but the next buyer may object.

On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:32:20 -0500, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:

>OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!

And, "Hello" regular monthly bills.
Plus, if it's like these poor folks just a couple of km up the road
from me, wait 'till you get the first installment.
http://www.cambridgetimes.ca/news/lo...-pay-the-piper

Ross.

On Sep 11, 1:32*pm, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
> OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>
> Over the weekend I heard construction up the block. I thought it
> was a neighbor construction, until today. I pulled up my
> driveway and there were trucks up and down the street.
>
> I got out of the car and talked to a worker in his truck, asking
> what's the big deal?" He said a new sewer system. "The whole
> street?" Yes he said. He pointed to a stake on my curb where
> I'll tap into.
>
> The worker was surprised I hadn't heard, saying it's been
> planned for years! Serves me right for not attending township
> meetings!!! Geez!
>
> So after more than 50 years of septic tank usage, by next spring
> that will be a thing of the past!
>
> First thing is add a garbage disposal.
>
> Only potential problem will be getting my neighbor's permission
> to dig a ditch across the side of his front yard and then
> replacing the damage. That or wind and weave the drain pipe up
> and around, staying on my property while minding my white pine
> root systems, etc..
>
> The man I spoke to said it will be finished in two months but I
> have some homework to do on the matter. It's been septic for so
> long, what's a couple more months! :-)

Wasn't in the paper? Taxes didn't increase? Neighbors don't talk in
your area?

In my area, one has no choice - if sewers are coming thru, you are
hooked to the system and no opting out.

Kalmia <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sep 11, 1:32*pm, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>>
>> Over the weekend I heard construction up the block. I
>> thought it was a neighbor construction, until today. I
>> pulled up my driveway and there were trucks up and down
>> the street.
>>
>> I got out of the car and talked to a worker in his truck,
>> asking what's the big deal?" He said a new sewer system.
>> "The whole street?" Yes he said. He pointed to a stake on
>> my curb where I'll tap into.
>>
>> The worker was surprised I hadn't heard, saying it's been
>> planned for years! Serves me right for not attending
>> township meetings!!! Geez!
>>
>> So after more than 50 years of septic tank usage, by next
>> spring that will be a thing of the past!
>>
>> First thing is add a garbage disposal.
>>
>> Only potential problem will be getting my neighbor's
>> permission to dig a ditch across the side of his front
>> yard and then replacing the damage. That or wind and weave
>> the drain pipe up and around, staying on my property while
>> minding my white pine root systems, etc..
>>
>> The man I spoke to said it will be finished in two months
>> but I have some homework to do on the matter. It's been
>> septic for so long, what's a couple more months! :-)
>
> Wasn't in the paper? Taxes didn't increase? Neighbors
> don't talk in your area?
>
> In my area, one has no choice - if sewers are coming thru,
> you are hooked to the system and no opting out.



Kalmia,

The hook-up to the sewer main is an option at my expense.

The natural gas company called me about 15 years ago asking if
they laid down a supply line, would I tap in. I said I sure
would but it never happened. I know my above neighbor has liquid
propane tanks, maybe too many others do to.

We live in one acre zoned hills so there's no flatland chatting
from porch to porch like smaller lots.

I get a township newsletter once a year but it's always such
boring stuff I don't read it. Big mistake, obviously.

But anyway I can be a friendly bother to the workers on occasion
for two months outside the hard hat zones. ;-)

Best,

Andy

spamtrap1888 <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sep 11, 10:32*am, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>>
>> Over the weekend I heard construction up the block. I
>> thought it was a neighbor construction, until today. I
>> pulled up my driveway and there were trucks up and down
>> the street.
>>
>> I got out of the car and talked to a worker in his truck,
>> asking what's the big deal?" He said a new sewer system.
>> "The whole street?" Yes he said. He pointed to a stake on
>> my curb where I'll tap into.
>>
>> The worker was surprised I hadn't heard, saying it's been
>> planned for years! Serves me right for not attending
>> township meetings!!! Geez!
>>
>> So after more than 50 years of septic tank usage, by next
>> spring that will be a thing of the past!
>>
>> First thing is add a garbage disposal.
>
> I'd replace my drain pipes, first. Have you looked at them
> lately?
>
>>
>> Only potential problem will be getting my neighbor's
>> permission to dig a ditch across the side of his front
>> yard and then replacing the damage. That or wind and weave
>> the drain pipe up and around, staying on my property while
>> minding my white pine root systems, etc..
>
> You want your sewer pipe to run as straight as possible
> into the main sewer, to prevent backups. You also want it
> far from any roots that will bore into the pipe.
>
>>
>> The man I spoke to said it will be finished in two months
>> but I have some homework to do on the matter. It's been
>> septic for so long, what's a couple more months! :-)
>
> You may be fine with septic, but the next buyer may object.



spamtrap1888,

Before today this was not a concern.

Good pointers. They make up my new homework.

New buyers can't object since I'm not selling. I can't imagine
where I'd rather live.

I've never had a septic tank problem but it's at it's supposed
20 year life expectancy (new, fiberglass in 1992).

Best,

Andy

On 9/11/2012 12:32 PM, Andy wrote:
> OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>
> Over the weekend I heard construction up the block. I thought it
> was a neighbor construction, until today. I pulled up my
> driveway and there were trucks up and down the street.
>
> I got out of the car and talked to a worker in his truck, asking
> what's the big deal?" He said a new sewer system. "The whole
> street?" Yes he said. He pointed to a stake on my curb where
> I'll tap into.
>
> The worker was surprised I hadn't heard, saying it's been
> planned for years! Serves me right for not attending township
> meetings!!! Geez!
>
> So after more than 50 years of septic tank usage, by next spring
> that will be a thing of the past!
>
> First thing is add a garbage disposal.
>
> Only potential problem will be getting my neighbor's permission
> to dig a ditch across the side of his front yard and then
> replacing the damage. That or wind and weave the drain pipe up
> and around, staying on my property while minding my white pine
> root systems, etc..
>
> The man I spoke to said it will be finished in two months but I
> have some homework to do on the matter. It's been septic for so
> long, what's a couple more months! :-)
>

Wait until you get the bill a/k/a assessment from the township. :-)

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 12:35:49 PM UTC-5, Chemo wrote:
> On Sep 11, 10:32*am, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
>
> > OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>
> >
>
> > Over the weekend I heard construction up the block. I thought it
>
> > was a neighbor construction, until today. I pulled up my
>
> > driveway and there were trucks up and down the street.
>
> >
>
> > I got out of the car and talked to a worker in his truck, asking
>
> > what's the big deal?" He said a new sewer system. "The whole
>
> > street?" Yes he said. He pointed to a stake on my curb where
>
> > I'll tap into.
>
>
> Guess you won't have to use the outhouse anymore.

I figured that he was talking about his mouth in reference to his quitting smoking.

--Bryan

Janet Wilder <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 9/11/2012 12:32 PM, Andy wrote:
>> OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>>
>> Over the weekend I heard construction up the block. I
>> thought it was a neighbor construction, until today. I
>> pulled up my driveway and there were trucks up and down
>> the street.
>>
>> I got out of the car and talked to a worker in his truck,
>> asking what's the big deal?" He said a new sewer system.
>> "The whole street?" Yes he said. He pointed to a stake on
>> my curb where I'll tap into.
>>
>> The worker was surprised I hadn't heard, saying it's been
>> planned for years! Serves me right for not attending
>> township meetings!!! Geez!
>>
>> So after more than 50 years of septic tank usage, by next
>> spring that will be a thing of the past!
>>
>> First thing is add a garbage disposal.
>>
>> Only potential problem will be getting my neighbor's
>> permission to dig a ditch across the side of his front
>> yard and then replacing the damage. That or wind and weave
>> the drain pipe up and around, staying on my property while
>> minding my white pine root systems, etc..
>>
>> The man I spoke to said it will be finished in two months
>> but I have some homework to do on the matter. It's been
>> septic for so long, what's a couple more months! :-)
>>
>
> Wait until you get the bill a/k/a assessment from the
> township. :-)



Janet,

Yes. There are certainly more than enough cost considerations
to weigh.

Best,

Andy

In article <[email protected]>, Ross@home
says...
>
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:32:20 -0500, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>
> And, "Hello" regular monthly bills.
> Plus, if it's like these poor folks just a couple of km up the road
> from me, wait 'till you get the first installment.
> http://www.cambridgetimes.ca/news/lo...-pay-the-piper

Another reason that there should be an annual hunting season on
politicians.

On Sep 11, 1:35*pm, Janet Wilder <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 9/11/2012 12:32 PM, Andy wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>
> > Over the weekend I heard construction up the block. I thought it
> > was a neighbor construction, until today. I pulled up my
> > driveway and there were trucks up and down the street.
>
> > I got out of the car and talked to a worker in his truck, asking
> > what's the big deal?" He said a new sewer system. "The whole
> > street?" Yes he said. He pointed to a stake on my curb where
> > I'll tap into.
>
> > The worker was surprised I hadn't heard, saying it's been
> > planned for years! Serves me right for not attending township
> > meetings!!! Geez!
>
> > So after more than 50 years of septic tank usage, by next spring
> > that will be a thing of the past!
>
> > First thing is add a garbage disposal.
>
> > Only potential problem will be getting my neighbor's permission
> > to dig a ditch across the side of his front yard and then
> > replacing the damage. That or wind and weave the drain pipe up
> > and around, staying on my property while minding my white pine
> > root systems, etc..
>
> > The man I spoke to said it will be finished in two months but I
> > have some homework to do on the matter. It's been septic for so
> > long, what's a couple more months! :-)
>
> Wait until you get the bill a/k/a assessment from the township. :-)
>

Growing up, our township formed a Sanitary District, which provided
our tap water as well as taking our sewage. So we were charged for
sewage based on the amount of water we used (what goes in must come
out). So we overpaid for watering plants, washing the car, etc.

But it was good not to have to rely on well water and a septic system.

On Sep 11, 12:25*pm, Ross@home wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:32:20 -0500, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
> >OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>
> And, "Hello" regular monthly bills.
> Plus, if it's like these poor folks just a couple of km up the road
> from me, wait 'till you get the first installment.http://www.cambridgetimes.ca/news/lo...-pay-the-piper

The price seems reasonable for the work involved. If seniors cannot
afford to pay for it now, let the township put a lien on the house,
dischargeable whenever the house is sold, inherited, etc.

On 9/11/2012 6:15 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Ross@home
> says...
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:32:20 -0500, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>>
>> And, "Hello" regular monthly bills.
>> Plus, if it's like these poor folks just a couple of km up the road
>> from me, wait 'till you get the first installment.
>> http://www.cambridgetimes.ca/news/lo...-pay-the-piper
>
> Another reason that there should be an annual hunting season on
> politicians.
>

Actually we have this thing called an election where we can choose to
rehire the ones we have or hire new ones. Two bad everyone is rolling
around in the dirt with the red vs blue stuff.

On Sep 11, 4:05*pm, George <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> On 9/11/2012 6:15 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>
> > In article <ko3v489g3ce9n8f8c47bnjv4486b7n8...@4ax.com>, Ross@home
> > says...
>
> >> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:32:20 -0500, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
>
> >>> OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>
> >> And, "Hello" regular monthly bills.
> >> Plus, if it's like these poor folks just a couple of km up the road
> >> from me, wait 'till you get the first installment.
> >>http://www.cambridgetimes.ca/news/lo...-pay-the-piper
>
> > Another reason that there should be an annual hunting season on
> > politicians.
>
> Actually we have this thing called an election where we can choose to
> rehire the ones we have or hire new ones. Two bad everyone is rolling
> around in the dirt with the red vs blue stuff.

Apparently we all want something for nothing, and to cut the deficit
without actually having a plan to pay for it.

I think the electorate is at fault if they buy into this nonsense.

On 9/11/2012 3:05 PM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Andy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>>
>> Over the weekend I heard construction up the block. I thought it
>> was a neighbor construction, until today. I pulled up my
>> driveway and there were trucks up and down the street.
>>
>> I got out of the car and talked to a worker in his truck, asking
>> what's the big deal?" He said a new sewer system. "The whole
>> street?" Yes he said. He pointed to a stake on my curb where
>> I'll tap into.
>>
>> The worker was surprised I hadn't heard, saying it's been
>> planned for years! Serves me right for not attending township
>> meetings!!! Geez!
>>
>> So after more than 50 years of septic tank usage, by next spring
>> that will be a thing of the past!
>>
>> First thing is add a garbage disposal.
>>
>> Only potential problem will be getting my neighbor's permission
>> to dig a ditch across the side of his front yard and then
>> replacing the damage. That or wind and weave the drain pipe up
>> and around, staying on my property while minding my white pine
>> root systems, etc..
>>
>> The man I spoke to said it will be finished in two months but I
>> have some homework to do on the matter. It's been septic for so
>> long, what's a couple more months! :-)
>
> have the neighbor fail to grant permission and then you can continue to use your
> septic tank and not have to pay for a sewer hookup
>

At least not in PA you wouldn't. They would simply levy the fees as if
you were connected and continue to do so plus assess various penalties
if you refuse to pay.

On 9/11/2012 3:29 PM, Kalmia wrote:
> On Sep 11, 1:32 pm, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>>
>> Over the weekend I heard construction up the block. I thought it
>> was a neighbor construction, until today. I pulled up my
>> driveway and there were trucks up and down the street.
>>
>> I got out of the car and talked to a worker in his truck, asking
>> what's the big deal?" He said a new sewer system. "The whole
>> street?" Yes he said. He pointed to a stake on my curb where
>> I'll tap into.
>>
>> The worker was surprised I hadn't heard, saying it's been
>> planned for years! Serves me right for not attending township
>> meetings!!! Geez!
>>
>> So after more than 50 years of septic tank usage, by next spring
>> that will be a thing of the past!
>>
>> First thing is add a garbage disposal.
>>
>> Only potential problem will be getting my neighbor's permission
>> to dig a ditch across the side of his front yard and then
>> replacing the damage. That or wind and weave the drain pipe up
>> and around, staying on my property while minding my white pine
>> root systems, etc..
>>
>> The man I spoke to said it will be finished in two months but I
>> have some homework to do on the matter. It's been septic for so
>> long, what's a couple more months! :-)
>
> Wasn't in the paper? Taxes didn't increase? Neighbors don't talk in
> your area?
>
> In my area, one has no choice - if sewers are coming thru, you are
> hooked to the system and no opting out.
>

What is really sad is how carried away they are getting. Maybe in a
densely populated are there may be cases where on site sewage disposal
equipment doesn't work properly but they often get carried away and
install central systems in sparsely populated areas. As an example some
friends live in a nearby area where there are maybe 6 houses/mile. There
is a recreational lake nearby are there are issues with sewage there. So
instead of putting central sewers in the lake area they put them
everywhere. My friend was assessed over $200,000 because of their
property frontage even though they have a recent, permitted and
inspected and correctly functioning system.

On 9/11/2012 3:52 PM, Andy wrote:
> Kalmia <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 11, 1:32 pm, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
>>> OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>>>
>>> Over the weekend I heard construction up the block. I
>>> thought it was a neighbor construction, until today. I
>>> pulled up my driveway and there were trucks up and down
>>> the street.
>>>
>>> I got out of the car and talked to a worker in his truck,
>>> asking what's the big deal?" He said a new sewer system.
>>> "The whole street?" Yes he said. He pointed to a stake on
>>> my curb where I'll tap into.
>>>
>>> The worker was surprised I hadn't heard, saying it's been
>>> planned for years! Serves me right for not attending
>>> township meetings!!! Geez!
>>>
>>> So after more than 50 years of septic tank usage, by next
>>> spring that will be a thing of the past!
>>>
>>> First thing is add a garbage disposal.
>>>
>>> Only potential problem will be getting my neighbor's
>>> permission to dig a ditch across the side of his front
>>> yard and then replacing the damage. That or wind and weave
>>> the drain pipe up and around, staying on my property while
>>> minding my white pine root systems, etc..
>>>
>>> The man I spoke to said it will be finished in two months
>>> but I have some homework to do on the matter. It's been
>>> septic for so long, what's a couple more months! :-)
>>
>> Wasn't in the paper? Taxes didn't increase? Neighbors
>> don't talk in your area?
>>
>> In my area, one has no choice - if sewers are coming thru,
>> you are hooked to the system and no opting out.
>
>
>
> Kalmia,
>
> The hook-up to the sewer main is an option at my expense.


No options with a sewer authority. You must connect. You will be charged
an assessment based on the cost of the system, you must pay a tap fee,
you must pay to have the tap made, you must pay to have the work
inspected, you must pay the usually monthly bills.

>
> The natural gas company called me about 15 years ago asking if
> they laid down a supply line, would I tap in. I said I sure
> would but it never happened. I know my above neighbor has liquid
> propane tanks, maybe too many others do to.
>
> We live in one acre zoned hills so there's no flatland chatting
> from porch to porch like smaller lots.
>
> I get a township newsletter once a year but it's always such
> boring stuff I don't read it. Big mistake, obviously.
>
> But anyway I can be a friendly bother to the workers on occasion
> for two months outside the hard hat zones. ;-)
>
> Best,
>
> Andy
>

On 9/11/2012 7:02 PM, spamtrap1888 wrote:
> On Sep 11, 1:35 pm, Janet Wilder <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 9/11/2012 12:32 PM, Andy wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> OT: Goodbye septic tank!!!
>>
>>> Over the weekend I heard construction up the block. I thought it
>>> was a neighbor construction, until today. I pulled up my
>>> driveway and there were trucks up and down the street.
>>
>>> I got out of the car and talked to a worker in his truck, asking
>>> what's the big deal?" He said a new sewer system. "The whole
>>> street?" Yes he said. He pointed to a stake on my curb where
>>> I'll tap into.
>>
>>> The worker was surprised I hadn't heard, saying it's been
>>> planned for years! Serves me right for not attending township
>>> meetings!!! Geez!
>>
>>> So after more than 50 years of septic tank usage, by next spring
>>> that will be a thing of the past!
>>
>>> First thing is add a garbage disposal.
>>
>>> Only potential problem will be getting my neighbor's permission
>>> to dig a ditch across the side of his front yard and then
>>> replacing the damage. That or wind and weave the drain pipe up
>>> and around, staying on my property while minding my white pine
>>> root systems, etc..
>>
>>> The man I spoke to said it will be finished in two months but I
>>> have some homework to do on the matter. It's been septic for so
>>> long, what's a couple more months! :-)
>>
>> Wait until you get the bill a/k/a assessment from the township. :-)
>>
>
> Growing up, our township formed a Sanitary District, which provided
> our tap water as well as taking our sewage. So we were charged for
> sewage based on the amount of water we used (what goes in must come
> out). So we overpaid for watering plants, washing the car, etc.
>
> But it was good not to have to rely on well water and a septic system.
>
A relative is the facilities manager for a local manufacturing company.
They have a similar arrangement put into effect in that area as you
described. So now they had huge water and sewage bills. So one of the
first things they did is put a treatment plant in so they could reuse
process water. The authority insisted something was wrong so they keep
on sending their people to the site. Friend shows them the onsite
treatment plant and they change the water meters claiming they are
defective. Repeat this every month. Then they decided to collect rain
water for use in process. Authority got more upset and keeps calling and
sending people who are also shown the large tanks where they collect the
rainwater. This has been going on for years.