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  1. #1
    Bigbazza Guest

    Default OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    Firefox hack attack warning

    August 17, 2008 - 3:26PM


    Several security holes have been discovered in Firefox and other software
    from Mozilla.

    The Thunderbird e-mail program and the Seamonkey program suite have also
    been affected.

    Users should update their software as soon as possible once patches become
    available, recommends the German Federal Agency for Security in Information
    Technology (BSI) in Bonn.

    The warning applies to Firefox versions prior to 2.0.0.16 and 3.0.1 as well
    as to Seamonkey. In the latter case, any version prior to 1.1.11 is
    vulnerable to hacker attacks.

    Those who do not receive automated updates can download them manually at
    http://www.mozilla.com/firefox or http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases.

    No update is available as yet for Thunderbird, which is affected in all
    versions prior to 2.0.0.16.

    DPA

    Bigbazza (Barry)



  2. #2
    sf Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:22:25 +1000, "Bigbazza" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Firefox hack attack warning
    >
    > August 17, 2008 - 3:26PM
    >
    >
    >Several security holes have been discovered in Firefox and other software
    >from Mozilla.
    >
    >The Thunderbird e-mail program and the Seamonkey program suite have also
    >been affected.
    >

    <snip>
    >

    Turning off your computer when you're away from it will help prevent
    hacker attacks (although why a hacker would *want* to attack you is
    beyond me), keeps your house cooler and lowers the electricity bill.


    --
    I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

    Mae West

  3. #3
    Pennyaline Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    Bigbazza wrote:
    > Firefox hack attack warning
    >
    > August 17, 2008 - 3:26PM
    >
    >
    > Several security holes have been discovered in Firefox and other
    > software from Mozilla.
    >
    > The Thunderbird e-mail program and the Seamonkey program suite have also
    > been affected.
    >
    > Users should update their software as soon as possible once patches
    > become available, recommends the German Federal Agency for Security in
    > Information Technology (BSI) in Bonn.
    >
    > The warning applies to Firefox versions prior to 2.0.0.16 and 3.0.1 as
    > well as to Seamonkey. In the latter case, any version prior to 1.1.11 is
    > vulnerable to hacker attacks.
    >
    > Those who do not receive automated updates can download them manually at
    > http://www.mozilla.com/firefox or
    > http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases.
    >
    > No update is available as yet for Thunderbird, which is affected in all
    > versions prior to 2.0.0.16.
    >
    > DPA
    >
    > Bigbazza (Barry)


    Funny, I've received no such warning.

    <been using Firefox and Thunderbird for a few years, too>

  4. #4
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    Pennyaline wrote:
    > Bigbazza wrote:
    >> Firefox hack attack warning
    >>
    >> August 17, 2008 - 3:26PM
    >>
    >>
    >> Several security holes have been discovered in Firefox and other
    >> software from Mozilla.
    >>
    >> The Thunderbird e-mail program and the Seamonkey program suite have
    >> also been affected.
    >>
    >> Users should update their software as soon as possible once patches
    >> become available, recommends the German Federal Agency for Security in
    >> Information Technology (BSI) in Bonn.
    >>
    >> The warning applies to Firefox versions prior to 2.0.0.16 and 3.0.1 as
    >> well as to Seamonkey. In the latter case, any version prior to 1.1.11
    >> is vulnerable to hacker attacks.
    >>
    >> Those who do not receive automated updates can download them manually
    >> at http://www.mozilla.com/firefox or
    >> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases.
    >>
    >> No update is available as yet for Thunderbird, which is affected in
    >> all versions prior to 2.0.0.16.
    >>
    >> DPA
    >>
    >> Bigbazza (Barry)

    >
    > Funny, I've received no such warning.
    >
    > <been using Firefox and Thunderbird for a few years, too>

    Probably because, like me, you're using the latest releases that aren't
    affected.

  5. #5
    Jean B. Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    George Shirley wrote:
    > Pennyaline wrote:
    >> Bigbazza wrote:
    >>> Firefox hack attack warning
    >>>
    >>> August 17, 2008 - 3:26PM
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Several security holes have been discovered in Firefox and other
    >>> software from Mozilla.
    >>>
    >>> The Thunderbird e-mail program and the Seamonkey program suite have
    >>> also been affected.
    >>>
    >>> Users should update their software as soon as possible once patches
    >>> become available, recommends the German Federal Agency for Security
    >>> in Information Technology (BSI) in Bonn.
    >>>
    >>> The warning applies to Firefox versions prior to 2.0.0.16 and 3.0.1
    >>> as well as to Seamonkey. In the latter case, any version prior to
    >>> 1.1.11 is vulnerable to hacker attacks.
    >>>
    >>> Those who do not receive automated updates can download them manually
    >>> at http://www.mozilla.com/firefox or
    >>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases.
    >>>
    >>> No update is available as yet for Thunderbird, which is affected in
    >>> all versions prior to 2.0.0.16.
    >>>
    >>> DPA
    >>>
    >>> Bigbazza (Barry)

    >>
    >> Funny, I've received no such warning.
    >>
    >> <been using Firefox and Thunderbird for a few years, too>

    > Probably because, like me, you're using the latest releases that aren't
    > affected.


    I'm not using the latest version of seamonkey, and I haven't
    gotten any warning or update notice. Nonetheless...

    --
    Jean B.

  6. #6
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    Jean B. wrote:
    > George Shirley wrote:
    >> Pennyaline wrote:
    >>> Bigbazza wrote:
    >>>> Firefox hack attack warning
    >>>>
    >>>> August 17, 2008 - 3:26PM
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Several security holes have been discovered in Firefox and other
    >>>> software from Mozilla.
    >>>>
    >>>> The Thunderbird e-mail program and the Seamonkey program suite have
    >>>> also been affected.
    >>>>
    >>>> Users should update their software as soon as possible once patches
    >>>> become available, recommends the German Federal Agency for Security
    >>>> in Information Technology (BSI) in Bonn.
    >>>>
    >>>> The warning applies to Firefox versions prior to 2.0.0.16 and 3.0.1
    >>>> as well as to Seamonkey. In the latter case, any version prior to
    >>>> 1.1.11 is vulnerable to hacker attacks.
    >>>>
    >>>> Those who do not receive automated updates can download them
    >>>> manually at http://www.mozilla.com/firefox or
    >>>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases.
    >>>>
    >>>> No update is available as yet for Thunderbird, which is affected in
    >>>> all versions prior to 2.0.0.16.
    >>>>
    >>>> DPA
    >>>>
    >>>> Bigbazza (Barry)
    >>>
    >>> Funny, I've received no such warning.
    >>>
    >>> <been using Firefox and Thunderbird for a few years, too>

    >> Probably because, like me, you're using the latest releases that
    >> aren't affected.

    >
    > I'm not using the latest version of seamonkey, and I haven't gotten any
    > warning or update notice. Nonetheless...
    >

    I don't even use Seamonkey so can't vouch for that one.

  7. #7
    Ron Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:00:12 -0600, Pennyaline
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Bigbazza wrote:
    >> Firefox hack attack warning
    >>
    >> August 17, 2008 - 3:26PM
    >>
    >>
    >> Several security holes have been discovered in Firefox and other
    >> software from Mozilla.
    >>
    >> The Thunderbird e-mail program and the Seamonkey program suite have also
    >> been affected.
    >>
    >> Users should update their software as soon as possible once patches
    >> become available, recommends the German Federal Agency for Security in
    >> Information Technology (BSI) in Bonn.
    >>
    >> The warning applies to Firefox versions prior to 2.0.0.16 and 3.0.1 as
    >> well as to Seamonkey. In the latter case, any version prior to 1.1.11 is
    >> vulnerable to hacker attacks.
    >>
    >> Those who do not receive automated updates can download them manually at
    >> http://www.mozilla.com/firefox or
    >> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases.
    >>
    >> No update is available as yet for Thunderbird, which is affected in all
    >> versions prior to 2.0.0.16.
    >>
    >> DPA
    >>
    >> Bigbazza (Barry)

    >
    >Funny, I've received no such warning.
    >
    ><been using Firefox and Thunderbird for a few years, too>


    Could be they are set to automatically update. I also use Firefox and
    Thunderbird and they are both at the latest revision, without any
    effort on my part.

    Ron Kelley

  8. #8
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:45:05 -0500, George Shirley wrote:

    > Pennyaline wrote:
    >> Bigbazza wrote:
    >>> Firefox hack attack warning
    >>>
    >>> August 17, 2008 - 3:26PM
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Several security holes have been discovered in Firefox and other
    >>> software from Mozilla.
    >>>
    >>> The Thunderbird e-mail program and the Seamonkey program suite have
    >>> also been affected.
    >>>
    >>> Users should update their software as soon as possible once patches
    >>> become available, recommends the German Federal Agency for Security in
    >>> Information Technology (BSI) in Bonn.
    >>>
    >>> The warning applies to Firefox versions prior to 2.0.0.16 and 3.0.1 as
    >>> well as to Seamonkey. In the latter case, any version prior to 1.1.11
    >>> is vulnerable to hacker attacks.
    >>>
    >>> Those who do not receive automated updates can download them manually
    >>> at http://www.mozilla.com/firefox or
    >>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases.
    >>>
    >>> No update is available as yet for Thunderbird, which is affected in
    >>> all versions prior to 2.0.0.16.
    >>>
    >>> DPA
    >>>
    >>> Bigbazza (Barry)

    >>
    >> Funny, I've received no such warning.
    >>
    >> <been using Firefox and Thunderbird for a few years, too>

    > Probably because, like me, you're using the latest releases that aren't
    > affected.


    for firefox, there's an option under tools/options/updates to automatically
    check for updates to firefox and your add-ons. it seems to me they send
    out an update to f.f. every couple of months. (oddly, though, they haven't
    asked me if i want 3.0.1.)

    your pal,
    blake

  9. #9
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:43:32 -0700, Ron wrote:

    > On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:00:12 -0600, Pennyaline
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Bigbazza wrote:
    >>> Firefox hack attack warning
    >>>
    >>> August 17, 2008 - 3:26PM
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Several security holes have been discovered in Firefox and other
    >>> software from Mozilla.
    >>>
    >>> The Thunderbird e-mail program and the Seamonkey program suite have also
    >>> been affected.
    >>>
    >>> Users should update their software as soon as possible once patches
    >>> become available, recommends the German Federal Agency for Security in
    >>> Information Technology (BSI) in Bonn.
    >>>
    >>> The warning applies to Firefox versions prior to 2.0.0.16 and 3.0.1 as
    >>> well as to Seamonkey. In the latter case, any version prior to 1.1.11 is
    >>> vulnerable to hacker attacks.
    >>>
    >>> Those who do not receive automated updates can download them manually at
    >>> http://www.mozilla.com/firefox or
    >>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases.
    >>>
    >>> No update is available as yet for Thunderbird, which is affected in all
    >>> versions prior to 2.0.0.16.
    >>>
    >>> DPA
    >>>
    >>> Bigbazza (Barry)

    >>
    >>Funny, I've received no such warning.
    >>
    >><been using Firefox and Thunderbird for a few years, too>

    >
    > Could be they are set to automatically update. I also use Firefox and
    > Thunderbird and they are both at the latest revision, without any
    > effort on my part.
    >
    > Ron Kelley


    automatic updates are a choice under tools/options/updates.

    your pal,
    blake

  10. #10
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    blake murphy wrote:
    > On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:45:05 -0500, George Shirley wrote:
    >
    >> Pennyaline wrote:
    >>> Bigbazza wrote:
    >>>> Firefox hack attack warning
    >>>>
    >>>> August 17, 2008 - 3:26PM
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Several security holes have been discovered in Firefox and other
    >>>> software from Mozilla.
    >>>>
    >>>> The Thunderbird e-mail program and the Seamonkey program suite have
    >>>> also been affected.
    >>>>
    >>>> Users should update their software as soon as possible once patches
    >>>> become available, recommends the German Federal Agency for Security in
    >>>> Information Technology (BSI) in Bonn.
    >>>>
    >>>> The warning applies to Firefox versions prior to 2.0.0.16 and 3.0.1 as
    >>>> well as to Seamonkey. In the latter case, any version prior to 1.1.11
    >>>> is vulnerable to hacker attacks.
    >>>>
    >>>> Those who do not receive automated updates can download them manually
    >>>> at http://www.mozilla.com/firefox or
    >>>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases.
    >>>>
    >>>> No update is available as yet for Thunderbird, which is affected in
    >>>> all versions prior to 2.0.0.16.
    >>>>
    >>>> DPA
    >>>>
    >>>> Bigbazza (Barry)
    >>> Funny, I've received no such warning.
    >>>
    >>> <been using Firefox and Thunderbird for a few years, too>

    >> Probably because, like me, you're using the latest releases that aren't
    >> affected.

    >
    > for firefox, there's an option under tools/options/updates to automatically
    > check for updates to firefox and your add-ons. it seems to me they send
    > out an update to f.f. every couple of months. (oddly, though, they haven't
    > asked me if i want 3.0.1.)
    >
    > your pal,
    > blake

    I've been getting the updates without a problem and am using version
    2.0.0.16 with updates. Haven't seen 3.0.1 offered as yet. I'm happy with
    both ff and T-bird.

  11. #11
    sf Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:42:41 -0500, George Shirley
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I've been getting the updates without a problem and am using version
    >2.0.0.16 with updates. Haven't seen 3.0.1 offered as yet. I'm happy with
    >both ff and T-bird.


    I have a feeling it updates whatever version you have. I get updates
    several times a week, so I was surprised to find my browser version
    was way behind when I put FF on a new computer.


    --
    I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

    Mae West

  12. #12
    Janet Wilder Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    blake murphy wrote:

    > for firefox, there's an option under tools/options/updates to automatically
    > check for updates to firefox and your add-ons. it seems to me they send
    > out an update to f.f. every couple of months. (oddly, though, they haven't
    > asked me if i want 3.0.1.)


    Me either! I'm glad you mentioned it. I was feeling a little left-out <g>

    --
    Janet Wilder
    Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
    Good Friends. Good Life

  13. #13
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:38:28 -0500, Janet Wilder wrote:

    > blake murphy wrote:
    >
    >> for firefox, there's an option under tools/options/updates to automatically
    >> check for updates to firefox and your add-ons. it seems to me they send
    >> out an update to f.f. every couple of months. (oddly, though, they haven't
    >> asked me if i want 3.0.1.)

    >
    > Me either! I'm glad you mentioned it. I was feeling a little left-out <g>


    maybe it's quasi-beta status or something. i haven't gone to the site
    proper to check.

    your pal,
    blake

  14. #14
    ChattyCathy Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    blake murphy wrote:

    > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:38:28 -0500, Janet Wilder wrote:
    >
    >> blake murphy wrote:
    >>
    >>> for firefox, there's an option under tools/options/updates to
    >>> automatically
    >>> check for updates to firefox and your add-ons. it seems to me they
    >>> send
    >>> out an update to f.f. every couple of months. (oddly, though, they
    >>> haven't asked me if i want 3.0.1.)

    >>
    >> Me either! I'm glad you mentioned it. I was feeling a little left-out
    >> <g>

    >
    > maybe it's quasi-beta status or something. i haven't gone to the site
    > proper to check.
    >
    > your pal,
    > blake


    FWIW, Dear Hubby has been using Version 3.0 on one of his computers for
    a while and I haven't heard him swearing too loudly about it. i.e. it
    seems to work well enough.
    --
    Cheers
    Chatty Cathy

    Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...

  15. #15
    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    ChattyCathy wrote:
    > blake murphy wrote:
    >
    >> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:38:28 -0500, Janet Wilder wrote:
    >>
    >>> blake murphy wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> for firefox, there's an option under tools/options/updates to
    >>>> automatically
    >>>> check for updates to firefox and your add-ons. it seems to me they
    >>>> send
    >>>> out an update to f.f. every couple of months. (oddly, though, they
    >>>> haven't asked me if i want 3.0.1.)
    >>> Me either! I'm glad you mentioned it. I was feeling a little left-out
    >>> <g>

    >> maybe it's quasi-beta status or something. i haven't gone to the site
    >> proper to check.
    >>
    >> your pal,
    >> blake

    >
    > FWIW, Dear Hubby has been using Version 3.0 on one of his computers for
    > a while and I haven't heard him swearing too loudly about it. i.e. it
    > seems to work well enough.


    I have been using Firefox for about a week. I was using trusty old
    Netscape Communicator but it started crapping out on me and I was
    getting messages that AOL doesn't support my reader, and I don't use
    AOL. I still prefer Netscape except that I would have to open it and log
    in 3-4 times before it stopped self destructing on me.

  16. #16
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    Dave Smith wrote:
    > ChattyCathy wrote:
    >> blake murphy wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:38:28 -0500, Janet Wilder wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> blake murphy wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> for firefox, there's an option under tools/options/updates to
    >>>>> automatically
    >>>>> check for updates to firefox and your add-ons. it seems to me they
    >>>>> send
    >>>>> out an update to f.f. every couple of months. (oddly, though, they
    >>>>> haven't asked me if i want 3.0.1.)
    >>>> Me either! I'm glad you mentioned it. I was feeling a little left-out
    >>>> <g>
    >>> maybe it's quasi-beta status or something. i haven't gone to the site
    >>> proper to check.
    >>>
    >>> your pal,
    >>> blake

    >>
    >> FWIW, Dear Hubby has been using Version 3.0 on one of his computers for
    >> a while and I haven't heard him swearing too loudly about it. i.e. it
    >> seems to work well enough.

    >
    > I have been using Firefox for about a week. I was using trusty old
    > Netscape Communicator but it started crapping out on me and I was
    > getting messages that AOL doesn't support my reader, and I don't use
    > AOL. I still prefer Netscape except that I would have to open it and log
    > in 3-4 times before it stopped self destructing on me.

    I used Netscape for years and had the same problem once AOL quit
    supporting it. Switched over to Firefox and haven't had a problem.
    Basically both are/were Mozilla software but Netscape went south once
    they were bought out.

  17. #17
    Default User Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    blake murphy wrote:

    > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:38:28 -0500, Janet Wilder wrote:
    >
    > > blake murphy wrote:
    > >
    > >> (oddly, though, they haven't asked me if i want 3.0.1.)

    > >
    > > Me either! I'm glad you mentioned it. I was feeling a little
    > > left-out <g>

    >
    > maybe it's quasi-beta status or something. i haven't gone to the site
    > proper to check.


    No, it's just that it's totally different animal than the 2.0.0.X
    series. I know, because Firefox 3 won't run on my system at home. They
    update the series you have.



    Brian

    --
    If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
    won't shut up.
    -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

  18. #18
    Jean B. Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    George Shirley wrote:
    > Dave Smith wrote:
    >> ChattyCathy wrote:
    >>> blake murphy wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:38:28 -0500, Janet Wilder wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> blake murphy wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> for firefox, there's an option under tools/options/updates to
    >>>>>> automatically
    >>>>>> check for updates to firefox and your add-ons. it seems to me they
    >>>>>> send
    >>>>>> out an update to f.f. every couple of months. (oddly, though, they
    >>>>>> haven't asked me if i want 3.0.1.)
    >>>>> Me either! I'm glad you mentioned it. I was feeling a little left-out
    >>>>> <g>
    >>>> maybe it's quasi-beta status or something. i haven't gone to the site
    >>>> proper to check.
    >>>>
    >>>> your pal,
    >>>> blake
    >>>
    >>> FWIW, Dear Hubby has been using Version 3.0 on one of his computers for
    >>> a while and I haven't heard him swearing too loudly about it. i.e. it
    >>> seems to work well enough.

    >>
    >> I have been using Firefox for about a week. I was using trusty old
    >> Netscape Communicator but it started crapping out on me and I was
    >> getting messages that AOL doesn't support my reader, and I don't use
    >> AOL. I still prefer Netscape except that I would have to open it and
    >> log in 3-4 times before it stopped self destructing on me.

    > I used Netscape for years and had the same problem once AOL quit
    > supporting it. Switched over to Firefox and haven't had a problem.
    > Basically both are/were Mozilla software but Netscape went south once
    > they were bought out.


    True. Actually Netscape 9 (IIRC) seems to be just like Firefox,
    so why bother? I am mainly using Seamonkey now, with Firefox next
    in line.

    --
    Jean B.

  19. #19
    ChattyCathy Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    Jean B. wrote:

    > George Shirley wrote:
    >> Dave Smith wrote:
    >>>
    >>> I have been using Firefox for about a week. I was using trusty old
    >>> Netscape Communicator but it started crapping out on me and I was
    >>> getting messages that AOL doesn't support my reader, and I don't use
    >>> AOL. I still prefer Netscape except that I would have to open it and
    >>> log in 3-4 times before it stopped self destructing on me.


    >> I used Netscape for years and had the same problem once AOL quit
    >> supporting it. Switched over to Firefox and haven't had a problem.
    >> Basically both are/were Mozilla software but Netscape went south once
    >> they were bought out.

    >
    > True. Actually Netscape 9 (IIRC) seems to be just like Firefox,
    > so why bother? I am mainly using Seamonkey now, with Firefox next
    > in line.
    >

    Heck, IMHO *anything* is better than Internet Exploder so I am not about
    to argue with (any of) you ;-)
    --
    Cheers
    Chatty Cathy

    Egg tastes better when it's not on your face...

  20. #20
    Jean B. Guest

    Default Re: OT...Firefox hack attack warning

    ChattyCathy wrote:
    > Jean B. wrote:
    >
    >> George Shirley wrote:
    >>> Dave Smith wrote:
    >>>> I have been using Firefox for about a week. I was using trusty old
    >>>> Netscape Communicator but it started crapping out on me and I was
    >>>> getting messages that AOL doesn't support my reader, and I don't use
    >>>> AOL. I still prefer Netscape except that I would have to open it and
    >>>> log in 3-4 times before it stopped self destructing on me.

    >
    >>> I used Netscape for years and had the same problem once AOL quit
    >>> supporting it. Switched over to Firefox and haven't had a problem.
    >>> Basically both are/were Mozilla software but Netscape went south once
    >>> they were bought out.

    >> True. Actually Netscape 9 (IIRC) seems to be just like Firefox,
    >> so why bother? I am mainly using Seamonkey now, with Firefox next
    >> in line.
    >>

    > Heck, IMHO *anything* is better than Internet Exploder so I am not about
    > to argue with (any of) you ;-)


    I almost NEVER resort to using that--only if I can't access
    something any other way--and then only if I really want to see
    whatever it is. I have always HATED IE.

    --
    Jean B.

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