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  1. #1
    brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?


    "FERRANTE" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    > recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    > its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    > I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    > easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    > newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.
    >
    > I know there are a lot of readers in our group and I am hopeful that
    > one of you or maybe a friend has used one and you can share your
    > thoughts with me (us), both pro and con. Here is a link to it so you
    > can get a better idea of what I am talking about:
    >
    > http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00154JDAI/...l_41di7k8jq1_e
    >
    > Thanks in advance for your help.
    > Mark


    You have to pay to download the books too, not inexpensive, and you can't
    transfer them to another device

    I don't think it's worth the price... in today's tech device market I don't
    think the Kindle is worth more than $25. You can use any lap top or PDA for
    the same thing and a whole lot more. Personally I prefer reading real
    books, I can use the public library for free. Or I can buy real books (used
    are very cheap), and when I'm done reading I can give them away, trade them,
    or sell them. I think the Kindle is a very expensive way to read, it's
    purely a gimmick. If I wanted I could download books to a memory stick and
    read in bed on my big screen TV. For me a big part of reading enjoyment is
    derived from holding a real book and turning pages... reading off a screen
    is too sterile, it doesn't transport me.

    If you have an extra $400 burning a hole in your pocket this is a far better
    buy:
    http://www.dell.com/content/products...=19&l=en&s=dhs




  2. #2
    FERRANTE Guest

    Default OT: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.

    I know there are a lot of readers in our group and I am hopeful that
    one of you or maybe a friend has used one and you can share your
    thoughts with me (us), both pro and con. Here is a link to it so you
    can get a better idea of what I am talking about:

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00154JDAI/...l_41di7k8jq1_e

    Thanks in advance for your help.
    Mark

  3. #3
    [email protected] Guest

    Default Re: OT: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    On Mar 7, 8:20*am, FERRANTE <manthonyferra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    > recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    > its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    > I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    > easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    > newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.
    > ....

    I'm giving it a pass. I very often carry a book around with me to
    read while waiting for this or that or them and occasionally I have
    left it somewhere carelessly. I wouldn't want to worry about losing
    it. And I doubt I would feel as free to toss it in the car or stuff
    it in my pocket like a book. But the deciding factor for me is that I
    have for many years enjoyed browsing around bookstores and libraries,
    picking books up to leaf through, being attracted by cover art,
    reading blurbs, and so on. I'm not inclined to give up the pleasure
    of a serendipitous find for scrolling through an electronic inventory
    list. If that makes me a Luddite, so be it. -aem

  4. #4
    Gloria P Guest

    Default Re: OT: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    FERRANTE wrote:
    > I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    > recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    > its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    > I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    > easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    > newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.
    >



    Kindle downloads are around $10 and up. The "free" downloads offered by
    a couple of sites are really old classics (think The Odyassey").
    That said, we had some Sony reps at our airport recently demo-ing the
    Sony Reader and it seemed to have a lot of nice features the Kindle
    lacked.

    I really don't think I'd like a book-on-screen. Books are a tactile
    experience as well as an intellectual one. YMMV, of course.

    Just yesterday an online friend was complaining that one of the Kindle
    books she wanted to download was the same price as the hardbound
    version. She complained to Amazon and was pretty much told "Tough luck."

    Compare, compare, compare.

    gloria p

  5. #5
    Dan Abel Guest

    Default Re: OT: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Gloria P <[email protected]> wrote:

    > FERRANTE wrote:
    > > I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    > > recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    > > its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    > > I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    > > easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    > > newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.
    > >

    >
    >
    > Kindle downloads are around $10 and up.


    You had me concerned about "bait and switch", but Amazon is still
    claiming that books on the NY times list and new releases are mostly
    US$9.99. Other books are supposed to be cheaper.

    > Compare, compare, compare.


    I'm interested in the concept. The whole thing is fascinating to me. I
    have no interest in actually doing it though, so I'm not going to spend
    any more time comparing. The newspaper and magazine subscriptions
    didn't look unreasonable to me.

    --
    Dan Abel
    Petaluma, California USA
    [email protected]

  6. #6
    James Silverton Guest

    Default Re: OT: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    Dan wrote on Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:54:56 -0800:

    >> FERRANTE wrote:
    > >> I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a
    > >> book. However, recently I have been looking into Amazon's
    > >> Kindle 2 which is small and its memory holds 1,500 complete
    > >> books. It is pricey, about $370 and so I am doing as much
    > >> research as I can before I decide. It would be much easier
    > >> to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can
    > >> read newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can
    > >> be expensive.
    > >>

    >> Kindle downloads are around $10 and up.


    > You had me concerned about "bait and switch", but Amazon is
    > still claiming that books on the NY times list and new
    > releases are mostly US$9.99. Other books are supposed to be
    > cheaper.


    >> Compare, compare, compare.


    > I'm interested in the concept. The whole thing is fascinating
    > to me. I have no interest in actually doing it though, so I'm
    > not going to spend any more time comparing. The newspaper and
    > magazine subscriptions didn't look unreasonable to me.


    I'd not want to take a Kindle or such into the kitchen to refer to
    recipes. My own technique is to keep recipes I like on a computer and
    print off a copy when needed.

    --

    James Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

    Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


  7. #7
    rosie Guest

    Default Re: OT: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    On Mar 7, 10:20�am, FERRANTE <manthonyferra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    > recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    > its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    > I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    > easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    > newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.
    >
    > I know there are a lot of readers in our group and I am hopeful that
    > one of you or maybe a friend has used one and you can share your
    > thoughts with me (us), both pro and con. Here is a link to it so you
    > can get a better idea of what I am talking about:
    >
    > http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00154JDAI/...adid=309835312....
    >
    > Thanks in advance for your help.
    > Mark


    Mark, I have a Kindle. I got it about a week ago, it is one of the new
    ones that will even read to you in a male or female voice.I LOVE it ,
    it is mall, about i/3 inch think and about the size of a book page,
    you can adjust the font to larger or smaller, depending what you want.
    You can annotate in the Kindle.I travel a lot, and can load books and
    papers or what ever I want into the kindle and not have a load of
    books to drag around.A large book can down load in less than a
    minutes. The cost with shipping is about 370.00 Cost of books is 9.99
    for best sellers, and they have at this time many many books in the
    Kindle shop. I am very happy with mine.

    Rosie


  8. #8
    Stan Horwitz Guest

    Default Re: OT: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    FERRANTE <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    > recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    > its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    > I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    > easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    > newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.
    >
    > I know there are a lot of readers in our group and I am hopeful that
    > one of you or maybe a friend has used one and you can share your
    > thoughts with me (us), both pro and con. Here is a link to it so you
    > can get a better idea of what I am talking about:
    >
    > http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00154JDAI/...353127&ref=pd_
    > sl_41di7k8jq1_e
    >
    > Thanks in advance for your help.
    > Mark


    A colleague of mine got a Kindle 2 a couple of weeks ago. She absolutely
    loves it. She bought it to work yesterday and it does look interesting.

  9. #9
    rosie Guest

    Default Re: OT: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    On Mar 7, 2:45�pm, rosie <RMi1013...@aol.com> wrote:
    > On Mar 7, 10:20 am, FERRANTE <manthonyferra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    > > recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    > > its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    > > I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    > > easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    > > newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.

    >
    > > I know there are a lot of readers in our group and I am hopeful that
    > > one of you or maybe a friend has used one and you can share your
    > > thoughts with me (us), both pro and con. Here is a link to it so you
    > > can get a better idea of what I am talking about:

    >
    > >http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00154JDAI/...adid=309835312...

    >
    > > Thanks in advance for your help.
    > > Mark

    >
    > Mark, I have a Kindle. I got it about a week ago, it is one of the new
    > ones that will even read to you in a male or female voice.I LOVE it ,
    > it is mall, about i/3 inch think and about the size of a book page,
    > you can adjust the font to larger or smaller, depending what you want.
    > You can annotate in the Kindle.I travel a lot, and can load books and
    > papers or what ever I want into the kindle and not have a load of
    > books to drag around.A large book can down load in less than a
    > minutes. The cost with shipping is about 370.00 Cost of books is 9.99
    > for best sellers, and they have at this time many many books in the
    > Kindle shop. I am very happy with mine.
    >
    > �Rosie- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    Replying to my own post !!! I went to Amazon.com and checked out some
    prices, all best sellers seem to be 9.99 or even less, a search though
    other books indicated they were about the same(9.99) or less. I am
    sure there may be some that are more expensive. Newspapers, different
    prices but delivered to your Kindle, I would say 10. a month,
    Magazines 1.49 a month or higher. I enjoy holding something book
    sized in my hand and do not feel I would enjoy reading as much on a
    computr, tho I do get most of my news on line.I would not lie in bed
    and read a book on my tv. This is a handy size , and easy to transport

    Rosie

  10. #10
    Andy Guest

    Default Re: OT: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    rosie said...

    > On Mar 7, 2:45�pm, rosie <RMi1013...@aol.com> wrote:
    >> On Mar 7, 10:20 am, FERRANTE <manthonyferra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> > I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    >> > recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    >> > its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    >> > I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    >> > easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    >> > newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.

    >>
    >> > I know there are a lot of readers in our group and I am hopeful that
    >> > one of you or maybe a friend has used one and you can share your
    >> > thoughts with me (us), both pro and con. Here is a link to it so you
    >> > can get a better idea of what I am talking about:

    >>
    >> >http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00154JDAI/...vadid=30983531

    > 2...
    >>
    >> > Thanks in advance for your help.
    >> > Mark

    >>
    >> Mark, I have a Kindle. I got it about a week ago, it is one of the new
    >> ones that will even read to you in a male or female voice.I LOVE it ,
    >> it is mall, about i/3 inch think and about the size of a book page,
    >> you can adjust the font to larger or smaller, depending what you want.
    >> You can annotate in the Kindle.I travel a lot, and can load books and
    >> papers or what ever I want into the kindle and not have a load of
    >> books to drag around.A large book can down load in less than a
    >> minutes. The cost with shipping is about 370.00 Cost of books is 9.99
    >> for best sellers, and they have at this time many many books in the
    >> Kindle shop. I am very happy with mine.
    >>
    >> �Rosie- Hide quoted text -
    >>
    >> - Show quoted text -

    >
    > Replying to my own post !!! I went to Amazon.com and checked out some
    > prices, all best sellers seem to be 9.99 or even less, a search though
    > other books indicated they were about the same(9.99) or less. I am
    > sure there may be some that are more expensive. Newspapers, different
    > prices but delivered to your Kindle, I would say 10. a month,
    > Magazines 1.49 a month or higher. I enjoy holding something book
    > sized in my hand and do not feel I would enjoy reading as much on a
    > computr, tho I do get most of my news on line.I would not lie in bed
    > and read a book on my tv. This is a handy size , and easy to transport
    >
    > Rosie



    Whoa!

    Six type sizes with the same tiring varied line by line letter and word
    spaced justified lines of text, in 16 shades of gray???

    No choice of typefaces??? Emphasis: italics, bold??? No choice of text
    alignment/hyphenation???

    And dark gray text on light gray??? EGADS!!!

    All combined, THAT'S HOW YOU PUT PEOPLE TO SLEEP reading that kind of text
    matter!!!

    Take me back to the 19th century!!!

    Convenient to hold but not to carry around.

    Reading that in bright sunlight on the beach? A little sand in the keyboard
    will destroy the device.

    Does it have backlight for reading in the dark?

    What an overhyped piece of crap!!!

    For reading books, I'll keep my iPhone and the better typographic controls,
    thank you.

    The End

    Andy

  11. #11
    FERRANTE Guest

    Default Re: OT: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:45:22 -0800 (PST), rosie <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >On Mar 7, 10:20?am, FERRANTE <manthonyferra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >> I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    >> recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    >> its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    >> I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    >> easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    >> newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.
    >>
    >> I know there are a lot of readers in our group and I am hopeful that
    >> one of you or maybe a friend has used one and you can share your
    >> thoughts with me (us), both pro and con. Here is a link to it so you
    >> can get a better idea of what I am talking about:
    >>
    >> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00154JDAI/...adid=309835312...
    >>
    >> Thanks in advance for your help.
    >> Mark

    >
    >Mark, I have a Kindle. I got it about a week ago, it is one of the new
    >ones that will even read to you in a male or female voice.I LOVE it ,
    >it is mall, about i/3 inch think and about the size of a book page,
    >you can adjust the font to larger or smaller, depending what you want.
    >You can annotate in the Kindle.I travel a lot, and can load books and
    >papers or what ever I want into the kindle and not have a load of
    >books to drag around.A large book can down load in less than a
    >minutes. The cost with shipping is about 370.00 Cost of books is 9.99
    >for best sellers, and they have at this time many many books in the
    >Kindle shop. I am very happy with mine.
    >
    > Rosie


    Thanks, Rosie, for both posts!

    I am sure I will get one as a birthday present to myself in May. To
    carry around something so small with so much to read appeals to me. It
    may not work for others, but I am convinced I will like it.

    My friend was complaining about the $10 per book charge as he smokes
    two packs of Kools per day, not to mention the beer he drinks daily.
    Go figure!

    Mark

  12. #12
    FERRANTE Guest

    Default Re: OT: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    >. I enjoy holding something book
    >sized in my hand and do not feel I would enjoy reading as much on a
    >computr, tho I do get most of my news on line.I would not lie in bed
    >and read a book on my tv. This is a handy size , and easy to transport
    >
    > Rosie


    Rosie,
    I was going to borrow from the Library, James McPherson's Battle
    Cry of Freedom (Civil War), a 952 page oversized softcover book (9.1 x
    6.1 x 1.7 inches) that weighs 2 pounds. Carrying that around to read
    (not to mention holding while in bed) while waiting for appointments
    or whatever is not that practical and heavy!
    I was pleased to see it is available for Kindle:
    (
    http://www.amazon.com/Battle-Cry-Fre...6476081&sr=1-1)

    for only $9.99! Now, imagine carrying the Kindle around reading it.
    Another book I want to read is Stephen King's The Stand. Again, a
    paperback that is 1141 pages long. Kindle offers it for $8.99. And
    again, the small size to carry around. Also, I like that it will hold
    both of those books and 1,498 other books of that size, all at once.
    One other feature is the ability to increase the font size, something
    you cannot do with any book. I like that.
    Liking the latest gadgets as I do, I am sure I am going to love this
    ebook reader.

    Thanks,
    Mark

  13. #13
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: OT: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:28:58 -0800 (PST), [email protected] wrote:

    > On Mar 7, 8:20*am, FERRANTE <manthonyferra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >> I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    >> recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    >> its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    >> I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    >> easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    >> newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.
    >> ....

    > I'm giving it a pass. I very often carry a book around with me to
    > read while waiting for this or that or them and occasionally I have
    > left it somewhere carelessly. I wouldn't want to worry about losing
    > it. And I doubt I would feel as free to toss it in the car or stuff
    > it in my pocket like a book. But the deciding factor for me is that I
    > have for many years enjoyed browsing around bookstores and libraries,
    > picking books up to leaf through, being attracted by cover art,
    > reading blurbs, and so on. I'm not inclined to give up the pleasure
    > of a serendipitous find for scrolling through an electronic inventory
    > list. If that makes me a Luddite, so be it. -aem


    i agree with all of that. there's just something about a book as an object
    in itself. newspapers, too.

    i spend a lot of time reading stuff on the net, but i would want to spend
    *all* my time reading off a screen.

    your pal,
    blake


  14. #14
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: OT: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:06:09 -0700, Gloria P wrote:

    > FERRANTE wrote:
    >> I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    >> recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    >> its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    >> I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    >> easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    >> newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.
    >>

    >
    > Kindle downloads are around $10 and up. The "free" downloads offered by
    > a couple of sites are really old classics (think The Odyassey").
    > That said, we had some Sony reps at our airport recently demo-ing the
    > Sony Reader and it seemed to have a lot of nice features the Kindle
    > lacked.
    >
    > I really don't think I'd like a book-on-screen. Books are a tactile
    > experience as well as an intellectual one. YMMV, of course.
    >
    > Just yesterday an online friend was complaining that one of the Kindle
    > books she wanted to download was the same price as the hardbound
    > version. She complained to Amazon and was pretty much told "Tough luck."
    >
    > Compare, compare, compare.
    >
    > gloria p


    depending on what you like to read, there are some amazing bargains in used
    books on the net. one cent plus shipping (maybe four dollars)? i'm all
    over that.

    your pal,
    blake

  15. #15
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: OT: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:28:36 -0600, FERRANTE wrote:
    >
    > My friend was complaining about the $10 per book charge as he smokes
    > two packs of Kools per day, not to mention the beer he drinks daily.
    > Go figure!
    >
    > Mark


    well, i smoke and drink and i think i would rather spend the $370 and ten
    bucks per book on cigarettes and booze. your ABV may vary.

    your pal,
    blake

  16. #16
    Dale P Guest

    Default Re: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    "FERRANTE" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    > recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    > its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    > I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    > easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    > newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.
    >
    > I know there are a lot of readers in our group and I am hopeful that
    > one of you or maybe a friend has used one and you can share your
    > thoughts with me (us), both pro and con. Here is a link to it so you
    > can get a better idea of what I am talking about:
    >
    > http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00154JDAI/...l_41di7k8jq1_e
    >
    > Thanks in advance for your help.
    > Mark


    For starters, you can now download free software to make your iPhone or iPod
    touch into a Kindle device. That answers the question about portability and
    going to the beach, etc. The Kindle is very easy to use, easy to see, easy
    to read. Yes, there is not the thrill of the dust cover and the smell of a
    new book. But, there is no energy used for printing, distribution,
    shipping, etc.. And there is no paper used. I have quit purchasing books
    some time back, and put my name on the waiting list at the library. A new
    book can take 6 to 8 weeks to get, but it is cheap and green.

    With the Kindle, you can have a new book or magazine in your hands in
    minutes. It is the wave of the future, and Kindle will most likely win out
    over the Sony and any other formats.

    I love it.

    Dale P



  17. #17
    Andy Guest

    Default Re: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    Dale P said...

    > "FERRANTE" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >>I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    >> recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    >> its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    >> I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    >> easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    >> newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.
    >>
    >> I know there are a lot of readers in our group and I am hopeful that
    >> one of you or maybe a friend has used one and you can share your
    >> thoughts with me (us), both pro and con. Here is a link to it so you
    >> can get a better idea of what I am talking about:
    >>
    >> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00154JDAI/...d=3098353127&r
    >> ef=pd_sl_41di7k8jq1_e
    >>
    >> Thanks in advance for your help.
    >> Mark

    >
    > For starters, you can now download free software to make your iPhone or
    > iPod touch into a Kindle device. That answers the question about
    > portability and going to the beach, etc. The Kindle is very easy to
    > use, easy to see, easy to read. Yes, there is not the thrill of the
    > dust cover and the smell of a new book. But, there is no energy used
    > for printing, distribution, shipping, etc.. And there is no paper used.
    > I have quit purchasing books some time back, and put my name on the
    > waiting list at the library. A new book can take 6 to 8 weeks to get,
    > but it is cheap and green.
    >
    > With the Kindle, you can have a new book or magazine in your hands in
    > minutes. It is the wave of the future, and Kindle will most likely win
    > out over the Sony and any other formats.
    >
    > I love it.
    >
    > Dale P



    It's morally wrong to allow suckers to keep their money!

    Andy

  18. #18
    Bob Muncie Guest

    Default Re: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    brooklyn1 wrote:
    > "FERRANTE" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    >> recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    >> its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    >> I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    >> easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    >> newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.
    >>
    >> I know there are a lot of readers in our group and I am hopeful that
    >> one of you or maybe a friend has used one and you can share your
    >> thoughts with me (us), both pro and con. Here is a link to it so you
    >> can get a better idea of what I am talking about:
    >>
    >> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00154JDAI/...l_41di7k8jq1_e
    >>
    >> Thanks in advance for your help.
    >> Mark

    >
    > You have to pay to download the books too, not inexpensive, and you can't
    > transfer them to another device
    >
    > I don't think it's worth the price... in today's tech device market I don't
    > think the Kindle is worth more than $25. You can use any lap top or PDA for
    > the same thing and a whole lot more. Personally I prefer reading real
    > books, I can use the public library for free. Or I can buy real books (used
    > are very cheap), and when I'm done reading I can give them away, trade them,
    > or sell them. I think the Kindle is a very expensive way to read, it's
    > purely a gimmick. If I wanted I could download books to a memory stick and
    > read in bed on my big screen TV. For me a big part of reading enjoyment is
    > derived from holding a real book and turning pages... reading off a screen
    > is too sterile, it doesn't transport me.
    >
    > If you have an extra $400 burning a hole in your pocket this is a far better
    > buy:
    > http://www.dell.com/content/products...=19&l=en&s=dhs
    >
    >
    >


    I disagree. Ebook readers have their place. I have the Sony PRS505 and
    love it. Received it as a gift, or else I wouldn't have it.

    The benefits:

    1) Small and light weight.
    2) Screen large enough to read the text (and can change from small,
    medium and large). Much better resolution then most lap/note book type
    computers.
    3) Can store many books on it. I have over a hundred on it, and that's
    just the ones I might want to read now. Otherwise I'd have more on there.
    4) Battery life is long (if shut down between uses) as I theoretically
    can turn the page 1700 plus times before needing a recharge, but haven't
    needed to do that yet. I can read for a week without charging. Can you
    leave your laptop on for a week while you go camping?

    The Minuses:

    1) No back light on the model (but I have an add-on back-light).
    2) Requires a recharge from time to time.
    3) I don't have any cookbooks I like in Ebook format :-(

    Here's the one I have, and some of the reviews others have made and the
    associated back light:

    http://tinyurl.com/bggk7c

    http://tinyurl.com/bk42xd

    Bob


  19. #19
    Mr. Bill Guest

    Default Re: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?

    On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:17:31 -0400, Bob Muncie <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >> I don't think it's worth the price... in today's tech device market I don't
    >> think the Kindle is worth more than $25.


    Amazon should be treating these just like a mobile phone. You give
    the phone away...but require a two year contract.

    It would be easy to sell them requiring two one year subscriptions to
    NYT and WSJ. Plus a required four per month download of a
    different book. They would have themselves covered in full for the
    cost of a Kindle.

    With the current "green" mentality, paper publications are going to
    become taboo.



  20. #20
    brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Ever use an ebook reader, Kindle or Sony?


    "Bob Muncie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > brooklyn1 wrote:
    >> "FERRANTE" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]..
    >>> I love to read and often will go by the lake and read a book. However,
    >>> recently I have been looking into Amazon's Kindle 2 which is small and
    >>> its memory holds 1,500 complete books. It is pricey, about $370 and so
    >>> I am doing as much research as I can before I decide. It would be much
    >>> easier to take around than a bunch of books, plus you can read
    >>> newspapers or magazines too, but the subscriptions can be expensive.
    >>>
    >>> I know there are a lot of readers in our group and I am hopeful that
    >>> one of you or maybe a friend has used one and you can share your
    >>> thoughts with me (us), both pro and con. Here is a link to it so you
    >>> can get a better idea of what I am talking about:
    >>>
    >>> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00154JDAI/...l_41di7k8jq1_e
    >>>
    >>> Thanks in advance for your help.
    >>> Mark

    >>
    >> You have to pay to download the books too, not inexpensive, and you can't
    >> transfer them to another device
    >>
    >> I don't think it's worth the price... in today's tech device market I
    >> don't think the Kindle is worth more than $25. You can use any lap top
    >> or PDA for the same thing and a whole lot more. Personally I prefer
    >> reading real books, I can use the public library for free. Or I can buy
    >> real books (used are very cheap), and when I'm done reading I can give
    >> them away, trade them, or sell them. I think the Kindle is a very
    >> expensive way to read, it's purely a gimmick. If I wanted I could
    >> download books to a memory stick and read in bed on my big screen TV.
    >> For me a big part of reading enjoyment is derived from holding a real
    >> book and turning pages... reading off a screen is too sterile, it doesn't
    >> transport me.
    >>
    >> If you have an extra $400 burning a hole in your pocket this is a far
    >> better buy:
    >> http://www.dell.com/content/products...=19&l=en&s=dhs
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > I disagree. Ebook readers have their place. I have the Sony PRS505 and
    > love it.
    > Received it as a gift, or else I wouldn't have it.



    That's too funny... I rest my case.




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