Thread: OT Eternal September

"Nunya Bidnits" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:imedt7$d6q$[email protected]..
> The server was down for several hours today. I had several posts stuck in
> limbo which have now belatedly appeared. So if they seem out of synch you
> know why.
>
> Here I recommended this server recently so of course it goes down. Very
> unusual for them to go down like this though. There's no indication as to
> why on their website but the bandwidth rate graph on their server status
> page shows no activity for about six hours.

Hmmm... Mine has been working fine. *Knock wood* But some time back it was
always going down in the middle of the night. Which is when I am usually on
here.

On 3/23/2011 5:30 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> The server was down for several hours today. I had several posts stuck in
> limbo which have now belatedly appeared. So if they seem out of synch you
> know why.
>
> Here I recommended this server recently so of course it goes down. Very
> unusual for them to go down like this though. There's no indication as to
> why on their website but the bandwidth rate graph on their server status
> page shows no activity for about six hours.
>
> MartyB
>
>

OU2? :-)

dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 3/23/2011 5:30 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
>> The server was down for several hours today. I had several posts stuck in
>> limbo which have now belatedly appeared. So if they seem out of synch you
>> know why.
>>
>> Here I recommended this server recently so of course it goes down. Very
>> unusual for them to go down like this though. There's no indication as to
>> why on their website but the bandwidth rate graph on their server status
>> page shows no activity for about six hours.
>>
>> MartyB
>>
>>
>
> OU2? :-)

Same here, however the server: news.eternal-september.org, no longer works.
I changed it to: uucp.eternal-september.org. And now it works.

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Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

Re: imfe6b$vdg$[email protected]

Nad R <[email protected]> wrote:

> dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 3/23/2011 5:30 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
>>> The server was down for several hours today. I had several posts
>>> stuck in limbo which have now belatedly appeared. So if they seem
>>> out of synch you know why.
>>>
>>> Here I recommended this server recently so of course it goes down.
>>> Very unusual for them to go down like this though. There's no
>>> indication as to why on their website but the bandwidth rate graph
>>> on their server status page shows no activity for about six hours.
>>>
>>> MartyB
>>>
>>>
>>
>> OU2? :-)
>
> Same here, however the server: news.eternal-september.org, no longer
> works. I changed it to: uucp.eternal-september.org. And now it works.

Interesting. Maybe it has to do with accessing the server with a mobile
device. On conventional news clients news.eternal-september works fine,
provided you have the correct port setting.

http://eternal-september.org/index.p...wpage=techinfo

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:41:47 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Same here, however the server: news.eternal-september.org, no longer works.
> I changed it to: uucp.eternal-september.org. And now it works.

How did you find out what to change it to?

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sf <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:41:47 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Same here, however the server: news.eternal-september.org, no longer works.
>> I changed it to: uucp.eternal-september.org. And now it works.
>
> How did you find out what to change it to?

By reading the side bar from the technical page.

http://eternal-september.org/index.p...wpage=techinfo

However, like Nunya stated, I am using a mobile device to send this
message.

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Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:25:57 +0000 (UTC), Nad R wrote:

> sf <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:41:47 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Same here, however the server: news.eternal-september.org, no longer works.
>>> I changed it to: uucp.eternal-september.org. And now it works.
>>
>> How did you find out what to change it to?
>
> By reading the side bar from the technical page.
>
> http://eternal-september.org/index.p...wpage=techinfo
>
> However, like Nunya stated, I am using a mobile device to send this
> message.

That was March 23rd, LAST YEAR.

The UUCP host machine name should only apply to machines that relay
articles to each other (when news servers talk to other news servers
to exchange articles). It's not for client connections such as those
of us reading RFC and other groups.

But it's possible that uucp.* is just a synonym for another client
accessible computer. You should not have to (nor should you) use
uucp.* as your NNTP server. You should switch it to one of the other
servers mentioned on that page. The fact that you got it to work was
just co-incidence.

-sw

Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:25:57 +0000 (UTC), Nad R wrote:
>
>> sf <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:41:47 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Same here, however the server: news.eternal-september.org, no longer works.
>>>> I changed it to: uucp.eternal-september.org. And now it works.
>>>
>>> How did you find out what to change it to?
>>
>> By reading the side bar from the technical page.
>>
>> http://eternal-september.org/index.p...wpage=techinfo
>>
>> However, like Nunya stated, I am using a mobile device to send this
>> message.
>
> That was March 23rd, LAST YEAR.
>
> The UUCP host machine name should only apply to machines that relay
> articles to each other (when news servers talk to other news servers
> to exchange articles). It's not for client connections such as those
> of us reading RFC and other groups.
>
> But it's possible that uucp.* is just a synonym for another client
> accessible computer. You should not have to (nor should you) use
> uucp.* as your NNTP server. You should switch it to one of the other
> servers mentioned on that page. The fact that you got it to work was
> just co-incidence.
>
> -sw

I just switched it back to "news." with all the old settings before that
system was down... It still failed to read or post messages today. After I
switched it back to "uucp" it started working again. I have tried the other
nntp and nntps servers and they did not work either. Perhaps each server
has it own separate password and id settings. However, I can post now at no
cost. If it goes down again I will probably will switch to so far it seems
to work again.

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Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

Re: img049$3t0$[email protected]

Nad R <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:25:57 +0000 (UTC), Nad R wrote:
>>
>>> sf <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:41:47 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Same here, however the server: news.eternal-september.org, no
>>>>> longer works. I changed it to: uucp.eternal-september.org. And
>>>>> now it works.
>>>>
>>>> How did you find out what to change it to?
>>>
>>> By reading the side bar from the technical page.
>>>
>>> http://eternal-september.org/index.p...wpage=techinfo
>>>
>>> However, like Nunya stated, I am using a mobile device to send this
>>> message.
>>
>> That was March 23rd, LAST YEAR.
>>
>> The UUCP host machine name should only apply to machines that relay
>> articles to each other (when news servers talk to other news servers
>> to exchange articles). It's not for client connections such as those
>> of us reading RFC and other groups.
>>
>> But it's possible that uucp.* is just a synonym for another client
>> accessible computer. You should not have to (nor should you) use
>> uucp.* as your NNTP server. You should switch it to one of the other
>> servers mentioned on that page. The fact that you got it to work was
>> just co-incidence.
>>
>> -sw
>
> I just switched it back to "news." with all the old settings before
> that system was down... It still failed to read or post messages
> today. After I switched it back to "uucp" it started working again. I
> have tried the other nntp and nntps servers and they did not work
> either. Perhaps each server has it own separate password and id
> settings. However, I can post now at no cost. If it goes down again I
> will probably will switch to so far it seems to work again.

Your username and password are the same across all their servers. Your news
client shows as NewsTap 3.2 (IPad). I'm not familiar with it. But if you are
using the nntp or nntps settings you need to have the server's account
config set to the correct port number as specified on the settings page, and
SSL checked in your config if using nntps. What nntp server and port number
is set in the account config when you switch back?

I suspect either it has something to do with your Ipad client compatability
or something isn't right in the account config on your end.

I have no idea why the uucp works.

MartyB

"Nunya Bidnits" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Re: img049$3t0$[email protected]
>
> Nad R <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:25:57 +0000 (UTC), Nad R wrote:
>>>
>>>> sf <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:41:47 +0000 (UTC), Nad R
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Same here, however the server: news.eternal-september.org, no
>>>>>> longer works. I changed it to: uucp.eternal-september.org. And
>>>>>> now it works.
>>>>>
>>>>> How did you find out what to change it to?
>>>>
>>>> By reading the side bar from the technical page.
>>>>
>>>> http://eternal-september.org/index.p...wpage=techinfo
>>>>
>>>> However, like Nunya stated, I am using a mobile device to send this
>>>> message.
>>>
>>> That was March 23rd, LAST YEAR.
>>>
>>> The UUCP host machine name should only apply to machines that relay
>>> articles to each other (when news servers talk to other news servers
>>> to exchange articles). It's not for client connections such as those
>>> of us reading RFC and other groups.
>>>
>>> But it's possible that uucp.* is just a synonym for another client
>>> accessible computer. You should not have to (nor should you) use
>>> uucp.* as your NNTP server. You should switch it to one of the other
>>> servers mentioned on that page. The fact that you got it to work was
>>> just co-incidence.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>> I just switched it back to "news." with all the old settings before
>> that system was down... It still failed to read or post messages
>> today. After I switched it back to "uucp" it started working again. I
>> have tried the other nntp and nntps servers and they did not work
>> either. Perhaps each server has it own separate password and id
>> settings. However, I can post now at no cost. If it goes down again I
>> will probably will switch to so far it seems to work again.
>
> Your username and password are the same across all their servers. Your news
> client shows as NewsTap 3.2 (IPad). I'm not familiar with it. But if you are
> using the nntp or nntps settings you need to have the server's account
> config set to the correct port number as specified on the settings page, and
> SSL checked in your config if using nntps. What nntp server and port number
> is set in the account config when you switch back?
>
> I suspect either it has something to do with your Ipad client compatability
> or something isn't right in the account config on your end.
>
> I have no idea why the uucp works.
>
> MartyB

I tried the port settings. I find it odd myself. Yesterday before the down
time the standard settings worked. This morning I changed the settings and
now it works. When i tried the other servers settings they failed. I think
it recognizes it is from a mobile device. So as long it works, I am happy,
otherwise I will signup for a low cost Giganews account if it fails in the
future.

I admit NewsTap is a bare bones news reader. No where near as good on my
Base Computers MT NewsWatcher which I rarely use now. I will never ever own
a laptop again. I love these go anywhere tablet devices.

Time to let the thread end.

--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:47:53 +0000 (UTC), Nad R wrote:

> I just switched it back to "news." with all the old settings before that
> system was down... It still failed to read or post messages today. After I
> switched it back to "uucp" it started working again. I have tried the other
> nntp and nntps servers and they did not work either. Perhaps each server
> has it own separate password and id settings. However, I can post now at no
> cost. If it goes down again I will probably will switch to so far it seems
> to work again.

If the other advertised servers are not working, then you have another
setting that is not correct, possibly the port number. Teh other
servers are working, and the fact that the uucp machine is accepting
your connections is not guaranteed to work tomorrow (it shouldn't even
work today). It's best to find out what the problem is now, rather
than it becoming a problem (again) later.

Just a fair warning.

-sw

On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:24:05 +0000 (UTC), Nad R wrote:

> I tried the port settings. I find it odd myself. Yesterday before the down
> time the standard settings worked. This morning I changed the settings and
> now it works. When i tried the other servers settings they failed. I think
> it recognizes it is from a mobile device.

It doesn't care, and it doesn't know what you're using.

> Time to let the thread end.

Ok, Jerry.

-sw

Nad R wrote:

> I tried the port settings. I find it odd myself. Yesterday before the down
> time the standard settings worked. This morning I changed the settings and
> now it works. When i tried the other servers settings they failed. I think
> it recognizes it is from a mobile device. So as long it works, I am happy,
> otherwise I will signup for a low cost Giganews account if it fails in the
> future.

I have not changed any settings on my account. If this post goes through,
then what you experienced was probably just the temporary effect of server
maintenance. Was it truly so important to participate in Usenet at that
exact moment?

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