OT: Anyone watch House?

My dentist prescribed oxycodone for occasional severe dental pain. When I
take a tablet, I'm usually dead asleep in a half hour. Consequently, I only
take it if I know I can go to bed, which is usually before bedtime. If I try
to stay up, it makes me a bit dizzy and unsteady. In either case, it quickly
eliminates my awareness of pain.

Watching Gregory House pop what appears to be several oxycodone tablets at a
time makes me wonder how he stays awake, much less navigate through the
hospital and make any intelligent decisions.

Is it a matter of acclimating to a certain dosage over time? I know that
oxycodone is highly addictive, and I take it as infrequently as possible, but
I'm just curious about anyone taking large amounts of the drug.

Yes, I know this is just a TV series. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright

"One man's meat is another man's poison"
- Oswald Dykes, English writer, 1709.

On Mar 22, 10:44*pm, Wayne Boatwright
<wayneboatwri...@arizona.usa.com> wrote:
> My dentist prescribed oxycodone for occasional severe dental pain. *When I
> take a tablet, I'm usually dead asleep in a half hour. *Consequently, Ionly
> take it if I know I can go to bed, which is usually before bedtime. *IfI try
> to stay up, it makes me a bit dizzy and unsteady. *In either case, it quickly
> eliminates my awareness of pain.
>
> Watching Gregory House pop what appears to be several oxycodone tablets at a
> time makes me wonder how he stays awake, much less navigate through the
> hospital and make any intelligent decisions.
>
> Is it a matter of acclimating to a certain dosage over time? *I know that
> oxycodone is highly addictive, and I take it as infrequently as possible,but
> I'm just curious about anyone taking large amounts of the drug.

I have always disliked opiates, even back in my weed and mushroom
days, but I do know that many opiate addicts can be very functional.
Just like with alcohol, there is a tolerance that builds. You're
lucky that oxycodone is appealing only as a pain reliever, as am I.
Being a junkie is less ideal than not being a junkie.
Speaking of TV, I know that I have little credibility with you, but
I'm still going to recommend to you and others--especially if you have
Netflix--an old TV show. It was called "Profit," and it starred
Adrian Pasdar, who is now on that Heroes show.

Anyone who has Netflix, you have nothing to lose but a few days
turnaround time. Just add it to your queue. After the fall of
predatory Capitalism, this show may be quite appealing. In fact, I
challenge folks to watch it.
>
> Yes, I know this is just a TV series. :-)
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
>
--Bryan

"Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright@arizona.usa.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9BD6D2FCC8947wayneboatwrightatari@69.16.18 5.250...
> My dentist prescribed oxycodone for occasional severe dental pain. When I
> take a tablet, I'm usually dead asleep in a half hour. Consequently, I
> only
> take it if I know I can go to bed, which is usually before bedtime. If I
> try
> to stay up, it makes me a bit dizzy and unsteady. In either case, it
> quickly
> eliminates my awareness of pain.
>
> Watching Gregory House pop what appears to be several oxycodone tablets at
> a
> time makes me wonder how he stays awake, much less navigate through the
> hospital and make any intelligent decisions.
>
> Is it a matter of acclimating to a certain dosage over time? I know that
> oxycodone is highly addictive, and I take it as infrequently as possible,
> but
> I'm just curious about anyone taking large amounts of the drug.
>
> Yes, I know this is just a TV series. :-)
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
>

Hi Wayne :-)

Actually, House takes hydrocodone (vicodin), not oxycodone. Vicodin is
similar, but different It's also about 1/3 the strength if I remember
correctly. Not to say it isn't addictive, as any opiod drug is, but a lot of
people use it for chronic pain and function well in their day to day lives.
My brother is one of them.

kimberly
--
http://eating-sandiego.blogspot.com

Bryan wrote:

> Speaking of TV, I know that I have little credibility with you, but I'm
> still going to recommend to you and others--especially if you have
> Netflix--an old TV show. It was called "Profit," and it starred Adrian
> Pasdar, who is now on that Heroes show.

"Profit" aired on Chiller several months ago, and will probably show up
there again. If you like evil-executive protagonists, it's a good show to
watch.

Bob

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> My dentist prescribed oxycodone for occasional severe dental pain. When I
> take a tablet, I'm usually dead asleep in a half hour. Consequently, I only
> take it if I know I can go to bed, which is usually before bedtime. If I try
> to stay up, it makes me a bit dizzy and unsteady. In either case, it quickly
> eliminates my awareness of pain.
>

Yea opiate products are little tablet dizzy machines for most people.
Keep it limited as much as possible so they do not eventually become
good feeling. Beyond usage for just pain that is.

Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright@arizona.usa.com>
news:Xns9BD6D2FCC8947wayneboatwrightatari@69.16.18 5.250: in
rec.food.cooking

> My dentist prescribed oxycodone for occasional severe dental pain.
> When I take a tablet, I'm usually dead asleep in a half hour.
> Consequently, I only take it if I know I can go to bed, which is
> usually before bedtime. If I try to stay up, it makes me a bit dizzy
> and unsteady. In either case, it quickly eliminates my awareness of
> pain.
>
> Watching Gregory House pop what appears to be several oxycodone
> tablets at a time makes me wonder how he stays awake, much less
> navigate through the hospital and make any intelligent decisions.
>
> Is it a matter of acclimating to a certain dosage over time? I know
> that oxycodone is highly addictive, and I take it as infrequently as
> possible, but I'm just curious about anyone taking large amounts of
> the drug.
>
> Yes, I know this is just a TV series. :-)

Sell 'em on the street corner. You can retire early ;-) And no, I do not
watch House. I've seen it twice and didn't care for it. If he's popping
several oxycodone at a time, he is a definite candidate for care at Betty
Ford, or another treatment center (I'm talking a lengthy inpatient
curriculum) and shouldn't be treating patients himself.

Michael

--
“He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand
your words.”
~Elbert Hubbard

You can find me at: - michael at lonergan dot us dot com

"Nexis" <nexis1@cox.net> news:yOExl.32162$5t4.14901@newsfe24.iad: in
rec.food.cooking

>
> Actually, House takes hydrocodone (vicodin), not oxycodone. Vicodin is
> similar, but different It's also about 1/3 the strength if I
> remember correctly. Not to say it isn't addictive, as any opiod drug
> is, but a lot of people use it for chronic pain and function well in
> their day to day lives. My brother is one of them.

Vicodin... oh mi! I took Vicodin for several months. I think I should
say I abused Vicodin for several months. I was at home recuperating and
ate Vicodin like it was a bottle of M&Ms. Mix that in with ICU
psychosis, depression and *lots* of alcohol and you've got a mess. Which
I was. Vicodin along with alcohol hit me so hard I checked myself into
detox and then into an inpatient treatment center. One needs to be very
careful with Vicodin.

Michael

--
“He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand
your words.”
~Elbert Hubbard

You can find me at: - michael at lonergan dot us dot com

On Mar 23, 12:56*am, "Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz>
wrote:
> Bryan wrote:
> > Speaking of TV, I know that I have little credibility with you, but I'm
> > still going to recommend to you and others--especially if you have
> > Netflix--an old TV show. *It was called "Profit," and it starred Adrian
> > Pasdar, who is now on that Heroes show.
>
> "Profit" aired on Chiller several months ago, and will probably show up
> there again. If you like evil-executive protagonists, it's a good show to
> watch.

Did you too find it a bit shocking that those episodes ever aired on
US TV?

I thought that the actress who played Nora was one of the prettiest
women ever to be on TV.

Not her best pic, but: http://reaper-cw.wikia.com/wiki/Allison_Hossack
>
> Bob

--Bryan

On Sun 22 Mar 2009 10:03:32p, Nexis told us...

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright@arizona.usa.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9BD6D2FCC8947wayneboatwrightatari@69.16.18 5.250...
>> My dentist prescribed oxycodone for occasional severe dental pain.
>> When I take a tablet, I'm usually dead asleep in a half hour.
>> Consequently, I only take it if I know I can go to bed, which is
>> usually before bedtime. If I try to stay up, it makes me a bit dizzy
>> and unsteady. In either case, it quickly eliminates my awareness of
>> pain.
>>
>> Watching Gregory House pop what appears to be several oxycodone tablets
>> at a time makes me wonder how he stays awake, much less navigate
>> through the hospital and make any intelligent decisions.
>>
>> Is it a matter of acclimating to a certain dosage over time? I know
>> that oxycodone is highly addictive, and I take it as infrequently as
>> possible, but I'm just curious about anyone taking large amounts of the
>> drug.
>>
>> Yes, I know this is just a TV series. :-)
>>
>> --
>> Wayne Boatwright
>>
>
> Hi Wayne :-)
>
> Actually, House takes hydrocodone (vicodin), not oxycodone. Vicodin is
> similar, but different It's also about 1/3 the strength if I remember
> correctly. Not to say it isn't addictive, as any opiod drug is, but a
> lot of people use it for chronic pain and function well in their day to
> day lives. My brother is one of them.
>
> kimberly

Thanks, Kimberly... I was confusing the two. I have taken both of these
at one time or another, but not for quite a long time. When I have my
planned oral surgery in July, the dentist is recommending Percocet which I
believe is acetaminophen and oxycodone, or Percodan which I believe is
aspirin and oxycodone. Either of those should really pack a wallop. :-)
I'll be off work for a week or so, though, so if I sleep all week, so much
the better. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright

"One man's meat is another man's poison"
- Oswald Dykes, English writer, 1709.

On Mon 23 Mar 2009 03:52:38a, Michael "Dog3" told us...

> Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright@arizona.usa.com>
> news:Xns9BD6D2FCC8947wayneboatwrightatari@69.16.18 5.250: in
> rec.food.cooking
>
>> My dentist prescribed oxycodone for occasional severe dental pain.
>> When I take a tablet, I'm usually dead asleep in a half hour.
>> Consequently, I only take it if I know I can go to bed, which is
>> usually before bedtime. If I try to stay up, it makes me a bit dizzy
>> and unsteady. In either case, it quickly eliminates my awareness of
>> pain.
>>
>> Watching Gregory House pop what appears to be several oxycodone
>> tablets at a time makes me wonder how he stays awake, much less
>> navigate through the hospital and make any intelligent decisions.
>>
>> Is it a matter of acclimating to a certain dosage over time? I know
>> that oxycodone is highly addictive, and I take it as infrequently as
>> possible, but I'm just curious about anyone taking large amounts of
>> the drug.
>>
>> Yes, I know this is just a TV series. :-)
>
> Sell 'em on the street corner. You can retire early ;-) And no, I do not
> watch House. I've seen it twice and didn't care for it. If he's popping
> several oxycodone at a time, he is a definite candidate for care at Betty
> Ford, or another treatment center (I'm talking a lengthy inpatient
> curriculum) and shouldn't be treating patients himself.

Well, as Kimberly pointed out, House is popping Vicodin which is not as
strong a drug, but of course they are both opiate dirivatives. I guess
Vicodin is used for relief of chronic pain, but seems to me House is taking
more than one would prescribe. No doubt, doctors should not self-
prescribe. I watch house regularly, but I think it takes a while to "get
into" that show. There's a fairly interesting assortment of regular
characters.

I'd probably have a lot of competition trying to sell the oxycodone on the
corner. The greater Phoenix area seems to have a lot of street drug sales
going on. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright

"One man's meat is another man's poison"
- Oswald Dykes, English writer, 1709.

Michael \"Dog3\" <don'task@donttell.huh> wrote:

> If he's poppin' several oxycodone at a time, he is a definite
> candidate for care at Betty Ford, or another treatment center
> (I'm talking a lengthy inpatient curriculum) and shouldn't be
> treating patients himself.

People can kick the O.C. with outpatient treatment, if it
includes methadone. Another, total and permanent treatment is
ibogaine, currently not available in the U.S.

Steve

On Mon 23 Mar 2009 05:45:23a, Steve Pope told us...

> Michael \"Dog3\" <don'task@donttell.huh> wrote:
>
>> If he's poppin' several oxycodone at a time, he is a definite
>> candidate for care at Betty Ford, or another treatment center
>> (I'm talking a lengthy inpatient curriculum) and shouldn't be treating
>> patients himself.
>
> People can kick the O.C. with outpatient treatment, if it
> includes methadone. Another, total and permanent treatment is
> ibogaine, currently not available in the U.S.
>
> Steve
>

Thanks for the insight, Steve.

--
Wayne Boatwright

"One man's meat is another man's poison"
- Oswald Dykes, English writer, 1709.

Michael "Dog3" wrote:
> Vicodin... oh mi! I took Vicodin for several months. I think I should
> say I abused Vicodin for several months. I was at home recuperating and
> ate Vicodin like it was a bottle of M&Ms. Mix that in with ICU
> psychosis, depression and *lots* of alcohol and you've got a mess. Which
> I was. Vicodin along with alcohol hit me so hard I checked myself into
> detox and then into an inpatient treatment center. One needs to be very
> careful with Vicodin.
>
> Michael


Michael, I am glad you checked yourself into detox. My youngest son is
addicted to prescription medication, but he is not interested in getting
help. He takes vicodin, oxycodone, xanax and anything else the doctor
will give him.


I read in the Houston Chronicle, that two of his doctors were
investigated, because their offices are considered "pill mills". One
doctor has been barred from prescribing pain medication, and the other
doctor surrendered his license. I complained to the Texas medical board
about both of these doctors, 4 years ago, but nothing was done.


This article was in Thursday's newspaper. http://tinyurl.com/cukdxr


Becca
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"Becca" <becca@hal-pc.org> wrote in message
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> Michael "Dog3" wrote:
>> Vicodin... oh mi! I took Vicodin for several months. I think I should
>> say I abused Vicodin for several months. I was at home recuperating and
>> ate Vicodin like it was a bottle of M&Ms. Mix that in with ICU
>> psychosis, depression and *lots* of alcohol and you've got a mess. Which
>> I was. Vicodin along with alcohol hit me so hard I checked myself into
>> detox and then into an inpatient treatment center. One needs to be very
>> careful with Vicodin.
>>
>> Michael
>
>
> Michael, I am glad you checked yourself into detox. My youngest son is
> addicted to prescription medication, but he is not interested in getting
> help. He takes vicodin, oxycodone, xanax and anything else the doctor
> will give him.
>
>
How old is your youngest son and is he living under your roof? If he's a
minor you need to intervene. If he's an adult you need to stop enabling.

On Mar 22, 11:44*pm, Wayne Boatwright
<wayneboatwri...@arizona.usa.com> wrote:
> My dentist prescribed oxycodone for occasional severe dental pain. *When I
> take a tablet, I'm usually dead asleep in a half hour. *Consequently, Ionly
> take it if I know I can go to bed, which is usually before bedtime. *IfI try
> to stay up, it makes me a bit dizzy and unsteady. *In either case, it quickly
> eliminates my awareness of pain.
>
> Watching Gregory House pop what appears to be several oxycodone tablets at a
> time makes me wonder how he stays awake, much less navigate through the
> hospital and make any intelligent decisions.
>
> Is it a matter of acclimating to a certain dosage over time? *I know that
> oxycodone is highly addictive, and I take it as infrequently as possible,but
> I'm just curious about anyone taking large amounts of the drug.
>
> Yes, I know this is just a TV series. :-)
>
In a word, yes. A couple decades ago, I had some nasty back
troubles. Doctor tried to avoid surgery, and I was on oxy for about 4
months. The first couple of days, all I did was sleep. By the time
they were scheduling surgery, I was walking around the neighborhood
for exercise, driving, and doing light housework and cooking. And
taking care of the adorable 2-year-old who started the whole thing by
wanting to be picked up. She learned that when Mommy sat down, she
could climb into my lap for her hugs and cuddles, but only Daddy
could pick her up.

I was lucky. Surgery took care of it and I'm fine now.

maxine in ri

Wayne Boatwright blabbles:

> Thanks... I was confusing the two. I have taken both of these
> at one time or another, but not for quite a long time. When I have my
> planned oral surgery in July, the dentist is recommending Percocet which I
> believe is acetaminophen and oxycodone, or Percodan which I believe is
> aspirin and oxycodone. Either of those should really pack a wallop. :-)
> I'll be off work for a week or so, though, so if I sleep all week, so much
> the better. :-)


Oh lookie here, Lil' Wayne is doing his "poor me" act so as to curry
sympathy...

Is it *any* wonder why some of us consider him such a shamelessly
manipulative schmuck...???


--
Best
Greg

On Mar 22, 10:44�pm, Wayne Boatwright
<wayneboatwri...@arizona.usa.com> wrote:
> My dentist prescribed oxycodone for occasional severe dental pain. �When I
> take a tablet, I'm usually dead asleep in a half hour. �Consequently, I only
> take it if I know I can go to bed, which is usually before bedtime. �If I try
> to stay up, it makes me a bit dizzy and unsteady. �In either case, it quickly
> eliminates my awareness of pain.
>
> Watching Gregory House pop what appears to be several oxycodone tablets at a
> time makes me wonder how he stays awake, much less navigate through the
> hospital and make any intelligent decisions.
>
> Is it a matter of acclimating to a certain dosage over time? �I know that
> oxycodone is highly addictive, and I take it as infrequently as possible,but
> I'm just curious about anyone taking large amounts of the drug.
>
> Yes, I know this is just a TV series. :-)
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright
>
> "One man's meat is another man's poison"
> � � � � � � �- Oswald Dykes, English writer, 1709.

I took Vicodin for chronic pain for a long time, when I had surgery
not long ago, I was shocked at the way they fill you with pain pills,
morphine drip etc.

They told me the new thinking is, that if you are in severe pain, you
will recover faster- than if you are concentrating on the next shot,
pill or what ever.

Sure enough , in a few days I no longer needed pain relief, and have
had no trouble since.

House has a big problem, he is an addict, but if you take meds for the
thing that is to be treated and listen to your body you will be fine.

They put me in a place between sleep and waking. I do not like them,
but if needed I will take them,also , remember they do come in
different dosages. You can take them and be functioning.

Rosie

Michael "Dog3" wrote:

> Vicodin... oh mi! I took Vicodin for several months. I think I should
> say I abused Vicodin for several months. I was at home recuperating and
> ate Vicodin like it was a bottle of M&Ms. Mix that in with ICU
> psychosis, depression and *lots* of alcohol and you've got a mess. Which
> I was. Vicodin along with alcohol hit me so hard I checked myself into
> detox and then into an inpatient treatment center.


Good on ya...


One needs to be very
> careful with Vicodin.


I've taken vicodin twice for severe shoulder pain, a week for each time.
Not only did it do naught for the shoulder pain (Ibuprofren ended up doing a
better job) but I didn't notice any narcotic "effect", and I'd pop two or
three at a time. I was thinking, "What is all the hullabaloo about?".
Maybe I'm just wierd...

OTOH I've known a coupla RN's who peddled the stuff and ended up being Big
Messes...including losing their nursing licenses.


--
Best
Greg

Steve Pope wrote:

> People can kick the O.C. with outpatient treatment, if it
> includes methadone. Another, total and permanent treatment is
> ibogaine, currently not available in the U.S.
>
> Steve

Methadone?? Jeesus....talk about a drug that gets seriously abused.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> My dentist prescribed oxycodone for occasional severe dental pain. When I
> take a tablet, I'm usually dead asleep in a half hour. Consequently, I only
> take it if I know I can go to bed, which is usually before bedtime. If I try
> to stay up, it makes me a bit dizzy and unsteady. In either case, it quickly
> eliminates my awareness of pain.
>
> Watching Gregory House pop what appears to be several oxycodone tablets at a
> time makes me wonder how he stays awake, much less navigate through the
> hospital and make any intelligent decisions.
>
> Is it a matter of acclimating to a certain dosage over time? I know that
> oxycodone is highly addictive, and I take it as infrequently as possible, but
> I'm just curious about anyone taking large amounts of the drug.
>
> Yes, I know this is just a TV series. :-)
>


He takes Vicodin; and the tylenol it's formulated with should have
destroyed his liver by now. Oxycodone or time-released fentonyl (sp?)
would be a better pain medication for him, except he'd abuse them.

I have a stash of double-strength hydrocodone (Lortab 10-500) and a few
oxycodone pills leftover from a back injury a couple of years ago. It
does not make me loopy, and I only take it occasionally for pain when
ibuprofin doesn't work (I've also taken half-tablets for severe coughing
once or twice.) 30 pills will last me for *years*. I wish I could get
more when I run out.

Bob