Thread: OT: 9/11 Please do not forget to remember

Sky wrote:
>
>Tomorrow will be a sad day to remember re: 9/11 Too many innocent
>people (from all over the world) died in the WTC buildings, the
>Pentagon, and in Pennsylvania by the hands of a few selfish persons who
>chose to be barbaric. It's important to always remember, no matter how
>much it hurts.

I see no difference between 9/11 and Pearl Harbor, none whatsoever.
The friggin' mooslims deserved the same response the friggin' japs
got, only nuked into *total* oblivion... Bush ****ed up... not to
worry, it's still going to happen, and soon, and will be far worse.

On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:20:35 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

>Sky wrote:
>>
>>Tomorrow will be a sad day to remember re: 9/11 Too many innocent
>>people (from all over the world) died in the WTC buildings, the
>>Pentagon, and in Pennsylvania by the hands of a few selfish persons who
>>chose to be barbaric. It's important to always remember, no matter how
>>much it hurts.
>
>I see no difference between 9/11 and Pearl Harbor, none whatsoever.
>The friggin' mooslims deserved the same response the friggin' japs
>got, only nuked into *total* oblivion... Bush ****ed up... not to
>worry, it's still going to happen, and soon, and will be far worse.

Pearl Harbor: 2,402 dead

9/11: nearly 3,000 dead

Atomic bombing Nagasaki: between 60,000 and 80,000 dead

Atomic bombing Hiroshima: between 90,000 and 166,000 dead

What do the friggin' Americans deserve?

John

"John John" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:20:35 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

>Sky wrote:
>>
>>Tomorrow will be a sad day to remember re: 9/11 Too many innocent
>>people (from all over the world) died in the WTC buildings, the
>>Pentagon, and in Pennsylvania by the hands of a few selfish persons who
>>chose to be barbaric. It's important to always remember, no matter how
>>much it hurts.
>
>I see no difference between 9/11 and Pearl Harbor, none whatsoever.
>The friggin' mooslims deserved the same response the friggin' japs
>got, only nuked into *total* oblivion... Bush ****ed up... not to
>worry, it's still going to happen, and soon, and will be far worse.

Pearl Harbor: 2,402 dead

9/11: nearly 3,000 dead

Atomic bombing Nagasaki: between 60,000 and 80,000 dead

Atomic bombing Hiroshima: between 90,000 and 166,000 dead

What do the friggin' Americans deserve?

John


Americans deserve unprovoked attacks? Nice that you can quote statistics
but it's stupid to make it sound like WE started this ****. The U.S. didn't
bomb the hell out of Japan on a whim.

Jill

"Sky" wrote in message news:[email protected]..

Tomorrow will be a sad day to remember re: 9/11 Too many innocent
people (from all over the world) died in the WTC buildings, the
Pentagon, and in Pennsylvania by the hands of a few selfish persons who
chose to be barbaric. It's important to always remember, no matter how
much it hurts.

Sky


Thank you, Sky. It *is* important to remember. Fly your flags, America.
God Bless the USA.

Jill

On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:20:35 -0500, Sky <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Tomorrow will be a sad day to remember re: 9/11 Too many innocent
>people (from all over the world) died in the WTC buildings, the
>Pentagon, and in Pennsylvania by the hands of a few selfish persons who
>chose to be barbaric. It's important to always remember, no matter how
>much it hurts.
>
>Sky


What I, as a Canadian remember, is that suddenly we had an influx of
flights from Europe. We coped with that and extended hospitality to
all those stuck here en route to the USA. Personally I sheltered a
very nice Lebanese lady who was going to Chicago.

You needed help, it was automatically given but I often wondered if
the reverse had been true, would GWB have declared 'no planes land
here' !

After it was all over, imagine how great we felt. GWB (who had run
away on a jet instead of standing with his people - I'm awfully glad
Churchill didn't do that during WWII) was on television thanking 'Our
brother Mexicans for all their compassion' ??? Canada ? No mention,
he later tried to cover it over by saying that was because we are
family. In addition we had, and still do, listen to the rot about how
the 'terrorists' came from Canada, despite the fact they lived and
trained to fly in Florida.

Just because something happened on your soil don't deify it into
something larger than what it was - think Nagasaki and Hiroshima - as
a little kid I saw the devastation there and clearly remember these
many years later, THAT was mammoth tragedy !

On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:31:25 -0400, "jmcquown" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
>"Sky" wrote in message news:[email protected]..
>
>Tomorrow will be a sad day to remember re: 9/11 Too many innocent
>people (from all over the world) died in the WTC buildings, the
>Pentagon, and in Pennsylvania by the hands of a few selfish persons who
>chose to be barbaric. It's important to always remember, no matter how
>much it hurts.
>
>Sky
>
>
>Thank you, Sky. It *is* important to remember. Fly your flags, America.
>God Bless the USA.
>
>Jill


Sounds like a cry from Hitler Youth lol

LucretiaBoring masked but wrote:

wrote in message news:[email protected]..

On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:20:35 -0500, Sky <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Tomorrow will be a sad day to remember re: 9/11 Too many innocent
>people (from all over the world) died in the WTC buildings, the
>Pentagon, and in Pennsylvania by the hands of a few selfish persons who
>chose to be barbaric. It's important to always remember, no matter how
>much it hurts.
>
>Sky


What I, as a Canadian remember, is that suddenly we had an influx of
flights from Europe. We coped with that and extended hospitality to
all those stuck here en route to the USA. Personally I sheltered a
very nice Lebanese lady who was going to Chicago.


Good for you! And thank you.


After it was all over, imagine how great we felt. GWB (who had run
away on a jet instead of standing with his people - I'm awfully glad
Churchill didn't do that during WWII) was on television thanking 'Our
brother Mexicans for all their compassion' ??? Canada ? No mention,
he later tried to cover it over by saying that was because we are
family. In addition we had, and still do, listen to the rot about how
the 'terrorists' came from Canada, despite the fact they lived and
trained to fly in Florida.


Your point is what... the US deserved to be attacked?


Just because something happened on your soil don't deify it into
something larger than what it was - think Nagasaki and Hiroshima - as
a little kid I saw the devastation there and clearly remember these
many years later, THAT was mammoth tragedy !


As if we haven't all seen those images. No one is diefying anything. It's
remembrance of people who lost their lives for no good reason. Honor them.

Jill

On 11/09/2012 7:39 AM, [email protected] wrote:

>
> Just because something happened on your soil don't deify it into
> something larger than what it was - think Nagasaki and Hiroshima - as
> a little kid I saw the devastation there and clearly remember these
> many years later, THAT was mammoth tragedy !
>


It was a tragedy. After the way the Japanese had swept across Asia and
the Pacific and committed countless atrocities in the lands they
occupied, the entire island chain should have been nuked. There were
more people killed in Nanking alone than in two atomic bombings
combined, systematically raped and slaughtered by Japanese troops.

Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:

> Sky wrote:
>>
>>Tomorrow will be a sad day to remember re: 9/11 Too
>>many innocent people (from all over the world) died in the
>>WTC buildings, the Pentagon, and in Pennsylvania by the
>>hands of a few selfish persons who chose to be barbaric.
>>It's important to always remember, no matter how much it
>>hurts.
>
> I see no difference between 9/11 and Pearl Harbor, none
> whatsoever. The friggin' mooslims deserved the same
> response the friggin' japs got, only nuked into *total*
> oblivion... Bush ****ed up... not to worry, it's still
> going to happen, and soon, and will be far worse.



We took the Pearl Harbor guided tour.

Many Japanese tourists were giggling/laughing the whole time. I
don't know if it was a guilt relief behavior or pride. Made me
angry.

On 9/11, 2001, I didn't lose anyone but I remember being worried
about Michael Lomonoco, executive chef at "Windows on the
World" restaurant on the top floor and also the charismatic host
of the food TV show "Epicuriou

My ex and I had dinner reservations years before 9/11 but with
Broadway and off-Broadway in full swing, after sitting in the
cab only a block from the hotel, for a half hour, we gave up.

I had just gotten to work when the staff rushed me with the
news, some in tears. They showed me a computer with the CNN
photographs of the WTC. I was numb. They asked me (ME!?) what
they should do? I said "call and round up your loved ones and go
home. They quickly scattered. Without sitting down I did an
about face and left. At the train station all trains were
canceled. Amtrak turned off the rails, or something to that
effect. Thousands of people there were effectively stranded. I
wondered how would I get home. I was doubtful cabs would be
available. It WAS high anxiety. When all of a sudden, the train
to Media, PA was announced was arriving! It seems they didn't
use the Amtrak rails. I climbed aboard, thanking my lucky stars.

When I got home, I stayed glued to the TV news coverage for
days/weeks for every little details.

Years after, my best friend and I did a NYC day trip and walked
the Ground Zero perimeter. It was maybe a 10 story empty pit. In
a small way it was my way of paying respect to all the fallen
innocents and heroes.

Andy

On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:10:31 -0400, Dave Smith
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 11/09/2012 7:39 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>
>> Just because something happened on your soil don't deify it into
>> something larger than what it was - think Nagasaki and Hiroshima - as
>> a little kid I saw the devastation there and clearly remember these
>> many years later, THAT was mammoth tragedy !
>>
>
>
>It was a tragedy. After the way the Japanese had swept across Asia and
>the Pacific and committed countless atrocities in the lands they
>occupied, the entire island chain should have been nuked.

It's this kind of thinking that caused 9/11.

John

On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:36:46 -0400, "jmcquown" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"John John" wrote in message
>news:[email protected]. .
>
>On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:20:35 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>>Sky wrote:
>>>
>>>Tomorrow will be a sad day to remember re: 9/11 Too many innocent
>>>people (from all over the world) died in the WTC buildings, the
>>>Pentagon, and in Pennsylvania by the hands of a few selfish persons who
>>>chose to be barbaric. It's important to always remember, no matter how
>>>much it hurts.
>>
>>I see no difference between 9/11 and Pearl Harbor, none whatsoever.
>>The friggin' mooslims deserved the same response the friggin' japs
>>got, only nuked into *total* oblivion... Bush ****ed up... not to
>>worry, it's still going to happen, and soon, and will be far worse.
>
>Pearl Harbor: 2,402 dead
>
>9/11: nearly 3,000 dead
>
>Atomic bombing Nagasaki: between 60,000 and 80,000 dead
>
>Atomic bombing Hiroshima: between 90,000 and 166,000 dead
>
>What do the friggin' Americans deserve?
>
>John
>
>
>Americans deserve unprovoked attacks? Nice that you can quote statistics
>but it's stupid to make it sound like WE started this ****. The U.S. didn't
>bomb the hell out of Japan on a whim.

You're saying it's possible to justify the killing of 150,000+
civilians.

John

On 9/11/2012 9:06 AM, John John wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:36:46 -0400, "jmcquown" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> "John John" wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]..
>>
>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:20:35 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>>
>>> Sky wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tomorrow will be a sad day to remember re: 9/11 Too many innocent
>>>> people (from all over the world) died in the WTC buildings, the
>>>> Pentagon, and in Pennsylvania by the hands of a few selfish persons who
>>>> chose to be barbaric. It's important to always remember, no matter how
>>>> much it hurts.
>>>
>>> I see no difference between 9/11 and Pearl Harbor, none whatsoever.
>>> The friggin' mooslims deserved the same response the friggin' japs
>>> got, only nuked into *total* oblivion... Bush ****ed up... not to
>>> worry, it's still going to happen, and soon, and will be far worse.
>>
>> Pearl Harbor: 2,402 dead
>>
>> 9/11: nearly 3,000 dead
>>
>> Atomic bombing Nagasaki: between 60,000 and 80,000 dead
>>
>> Atomic bombing Hiroshima: between 90,000 and 166,000 dead
>>
>> What do the friggin' Americans deserve?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> Americans deserve unprovoked attacks? Nice that you can quote statistics
>> but it's stupid to make it sound like WE started this ****. The U.S. didn't
>> bomb the hell out of Japan on a whim.
>
> You're saying it's possible to justify the killing of 150,000+
> civilians.
>
> John
>

Unfortunately you can't cherry pick with something like the WWII conflict.

Its 1945 and you are in charge. You know the Japanese fighting spirit
and you know they won't stop. What would you do? Send flowers to the
emperor? Or would you pick a course that was sure to kill many but was
also sure to limit the overall loss of life in ending the war?

On 9/11/2012 7:54 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> LucretiaBoring masked but wrote:
>
> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
>
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:20:35 -0500, Sky <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Tomorrow will be a sad day to remember re: 9/11 Too many innocent
>> people (from all over the world) died in the WTC buildings, the
>> Pentagon, and in Pennsylvania by the hands of a few selfish persons who
>> chose to be barbaric. It's important to always remember, no matter how
>> much it hurts.
>>
>> Sky
>
>
> What I, as a Canadian remember, is that suddenly we had an influx of
> flights from Europe. We coped with that and extended hospitality to
> all those stuck here en route to the USA. Personally I sheltered a
> very nice Lebanese lady who was going to Chicago.
>
>
> Good for you! And thank you.
>
>
> After it was all over, imagine how great we felt. GWB (who had run
> away on a jet instead of standing with his people - I'm awfully glad

You are in charge of protecting the president. An attack whose scope is
not identified is occurring. Would you have the president go out to the
rose garden and shake his fist or would you get him into AF1 and
airborne until whatever was happening was identified?


> Churchill didn't do that during WWII) was on television thanking 'Our
> brother Mexicans for all their compassion' ??? Canada ? No mention,
> he later tried to cover it over by saying that was because we are
> family. In addition we had, and still do, listen to the rot about how
> the 'terrorists' came from Canada, despite the fact they lived and
> trained to fly in Florida.
>
>
> Your point is what... the US deserved to be attacked?
>
>
> Just because something happened on your soil don't deify it into
> something larger than what it was - think Nagasaki and Hiroshima - as
> a little kid I saw the devastation there and clearly remember these
> many years later, THAT was mammoth tragedy !
>
>
> As if we haven't all seen those images. No one is diefying anything.
> It's remembrance of people who lost their lives for no good reason.
> Honor them.
>
> Jill

On 9/11/2012 8:10 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 11/09/2012 7:39 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>
>> Just because something happened on your soil don't deify it into
>> something larger than what it was - think Nagasaki and Hiroshima - as
>> a little kid I saw the devastation there and clearly remember these
>> many years later, THAT was mammoth tragedy !
>>
>
>
> It was a tragedy. After the way the Japanese had swept across Asia and
> the Pacific and committed countless atrocities in the lands they
> occupied, the entire island chain should have been nuked. There were
> more people killed in Nanking alone than in two atomic bombings
> combined, systematically raped and slaughtered by Japanese troops.

When you do that you are just as soulless as the people you are killing.
We knew the Japanese fighting spirit and that they would never stop the
war easily. So we picked a course that in the big picture caused the
lowest loss of life.

John John <[email protected]> wrote:

-snip-
>You're saying it's possible to justify the killing of 150,000+
>civilians.

I can. If it would save 300,000 I'd give the order or do the deed.
For 150,001, I'd have to see both lists of names.

Jim

George <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 9/11/2012 7:54 AM, jmcquown wrote:
[maybe-- or maybe it just looks that way-- doesn't matter-- somebody
said it & Jill's post made it look like she did]

-snip-
>>
>> After it was all over, imagine how great we felt. GWB (who had run
>> away on a jet instead of standing with his people - I'm awfully glad
>
>You are in charge of protecting the president. An attack whose scope is
>not identified is occurring. Would you have the president go out to the
>rose garden and shake his fist or would you get him into AF1 and
>airborne until whatever was happening was identified?

I'm with you there, but I understand any Canadian's disgust for not
being recognized in GW's grand speech. I blame 3 speech writers
and Whitehouse stupidity--- but my ox wasn't gored.


I'm certainly no fan of W- but that particular speech was his best and
his people screwed the pooch.

Jim

On 2012-09-11, Sky <[email protected]> wrote:
> Tomorrow will be a sad day to remember.....

How can I forget. Some joker, some flag-waving moron invokes the
memory almost every single friggin day of the year!

What irks me about the whole "remember 9/11" outcry is no one
remembers the Oklahoma City bombing by Timothy McVeigh, yet everyone
remembers 9/11. Is that cuz 9/11 has some racial bigotry to help fan
the flames, but OC was by an all American white guy? OC was all the
more terrifying BECAUSE! it was an all-American white guy. That
scares the crap outta me. You KNOW them easy-to-spot-in-the-terminal
crazy camel jockeys hate us, but that computer-game-playing
ice-cream-eating white kid next door? What's next? Nuclear plant
sabotage by the DAR granny from down the street? Who's watching her?


nb

--
Definition of objectivism:
"Eff you! I got mine."
http://www.nongmoproject.org/

In article <wTF3s.51237$[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> On 11/09/2012 7:39 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >
> > Just because something happened on your soil don't deify it into
> > something larger than what it was - think Nagasaki and Hiroshima - as
> > a little kid I saw the devastation there and clearly remember these
> > many years later, THAT was mammoth tragedy !
> >
>
>
> It was a tragedy. After the way the Japanese had swept across Asia and
> the Pacific and committed countless atrocities in the lands they
> occupied, the entire island chain should have been nuked. There were
> more people killed in Nanking alone than in two atomic bombings
> combined, systematically raped and slaughtered by Japanese troops.

That's how an Arab thinks and that's why there won't be an end to
Islamic terrorism until people who think like Arabs are either educated
out of it or rendered incapable of doing harm.

Fortunately, both the US government and the Japanese have progressed
beyond that point.

On 2012-09-11, J. Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:

> Fortunately, both the US government and the Japanese have progressed
> beyond that point.

Sure, pal! We didn't invade Iraq cuz of oil. Uh-huh.

nb


--
Definition of objectivism:
"Eff you! I got mine."
http://www.nongmoproject.org/