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    Zephirys Guest

    Default Olive oil vs sunflower oil

    Which is the best oil between olive and sunflower one, in order to get proper french fries?

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    Julie Bove Guest

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    "Zephirys" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Which is the best oil between olive and sunflower one, in order to get
    > proper french fries?


    I don't think you can deep fry in olive oil.



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    Steve Pope Guest

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    Julie Bove <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Zephirys" <[email protected]> wrote in message


    >> Which is the best oil between olive and sunflower one, in order to get
    >> proper french fries?


    >I don't think you can deep fry in olive oil.


    You can't. Or anyway, it's an extremely poor idea. Even if it
    didn't smoke, it would vaporize.

    I do however oven-roast poatatoes brushed/tossed with olive oil
    and salt, which works.

    Steve

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    Sqwertz Guest

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    On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 16:54:27 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:

    > "Zephirys" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:k4aksc$v4e$[email protected]..
    >> Which is the best oil between olive and sunflower one, in order to get
    >> proper french fries?

    >
    > I don't think you can deep fry in olive oil.


    Sure you can. Just like any other oil. It has about the same smoke
    point of Peanut Oil. And these even a couple of brands of potato
    chips that are fried in pure olive oil.

    -sw

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    Sqwertz Guest

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    On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:58:37 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:

    > Julie Bove <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>"Zephirys" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    >
    >>> Which is the best oil between olive and sunflower one, in order to get
    >>> proper french fries?

    >
    >>I don't think you can deep fry in olive oil.

    >
    > You can't.


    You certainly can, and very effectively.

    -sw

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    Mort Guest

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    Steve Pope wrote:

    > Julie Bove <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> "Zephirys" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    >
    >>> Which is the best oil between olive and sunflower one, in order to get
    >>> proper french fries?

    >
    >> I don't think you can deep fry in olive oil.

    >
    > You can't. Or anyway, it's an extremely poor idea. Even if it
    > didn't smoke, it would vaporize.
    >
    > I do however oven-roast poatatoes brushed/tossed with olive oil
    > and salt, which works.
    >
    > Steve
    >



    Some Chefs do. Mario Batali is a proponent of it. I've had good experiences
    with it for certain preparations. You do need to control the max temp.

    No, it doesn't vaporize.

    Deep Fried Mussels: Cozze Fritte
    <http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/mario-batali/deep-fried-mussels-cozze-fritte-recipe/index.html>

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    Bryan Guest

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    On Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:07:38 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
    > On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 16:54:27 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > > "Zephirys" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    >
    > > news:k4aksc$v4e$[email protected]..

    >
    > >> Which is the best oil between olive and sunflower one, in order to get

    >
    > >> proper french fries?

    >
    > >

    >
    > > I don't think you can deep fry in olive oil.

    >
    >
    >
    > Sure you can. Just like any other oil. It has about the same smoke
    >
    > point of Peanut Oil. And these even a couple of brands of potato
    >
    > chips that are fried in pure olive oil.
    >

    The only possible disadvantage to frying in olive oil is if one does not like the taste of olive oil. Conventional sunflower oil is awful, but there is a newfangled breed (breeds?) of sunflowers that produce an oil very similar to olive oil in all but flavor. High-oleic sunflower oil is the ideal frying oil for those who prefer a no flavor oil to the flavor of olive oil.
    >
    > -sw


    --Bryan

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    Zephirys Guest

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    Yeah, I love the taste of olive oil but I didn't know if I can effectively frying them. I'll try in days. I hope the result in healt will be significative.

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    Sqwertz Guest

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    On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:29:50 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote:

    > Bryan wrote:
    >>
    >> The only possible disadvantage to frying in olive oil
    >> is if one does not like the taste of olive oil.

    >
    > Most of the flavor of olive oil is lost in cooking.
    > If you want olive oil flavor, use it raw.


    No. If you want olive oil flavor, use extra virgin.

    -sw

  10. #10
    Bryan Guest

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    On Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:31:44 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
    > On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:29:50 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > > Bryan wrote:

    >
    > >>

    >
    > >> The only possible disadvantage to frying in olive oil

    >
    > >> is if one does not like the taste of olive oil.

    >
    > >

    >
    > > Most of the flavor of olive oil is lost in cooking.

    >
    > > If you want olive oil flavor, use it raw.

    >
    >
    >
    > No. If you want olive oil flavor, use extra virgin.
    >

    But all olive oil has flavor. High-oleic sunflower is truly flavorless, and now that there is an oil that is almost identical in fatty acid content, I will only use extra virgin, and only as a flavorant in the few applications where I want to add olive oil flavor, and I agree with Steve that EVOO should not be used for frying, but added to sauces and ideally not be heatedbeyond the boiling point of water, and not even boiled for very long.

    When used that way, even rather pricey EVOOs, bought in small bottles, are not costly. I predict that within a few years the high-oleic breeds of sunflower, soy, peanut, etc. will be the standard. The goal is reducing palmitic acid as close to zero as possible, and minimizing linoleic acid. Finally, after decades, progress is being made quickly on eliminating unhealthful vegetable fats, at least as far as frying goes.
    >
    > -sw


    --Bryan

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    Mark Thorson Guest

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    Bryan wrote:
    >
    > The only possible disadvantage to frying in olive oil
    > is if one does not like the taste of olive oil.


    Most of the flavor of olive oil is lost in cooking.
    If you want olive oil flavor, use it raw.

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    gregz Guest

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    Zephirys <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Which is the best oil between olive and sunflower one, in order to get proper french fries?


    Cottonseed oil, or go for duck fat. They will be properly tasty.

    Greg

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    gregz Guest

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    Zephirys <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Which is the best oil between olive and sunflower one, in order to get proper french fries?


    My favorite chips are made with cottonseed oil.

    Check out the list of smoke points of oil. Olive oil is too near the
    optimum 375 degrees of frying. You can get by at 350, but less effective at
    reducing oil absorption.

    Greg

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    Doug Freyburger Guest

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    gregz wrote:
    > Zephirys <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Which is the best oil between olive and sunflower one, in order to get proper french fries?

    >
    > Cottonseed oil, or go for duck fat. They will be properly tasty.


    I think the best fries are fried first at 325F to cook them through then
    briefly again at 375F. For the lower temperature you want one that will
    not impart flavor just heat. Peanut, cottonseed, soy, corn, you name
    it. For the higher temperature you want one with a higher smoke point
    and imparting heat is a nice feature. Disck fat or cottonseed oil.

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    Julie Bove Guest

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    "Steve Pope" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Julie Bove <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>"Zephirys" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    >
    >>> Which is the best oil between olive and sunflower one, in order to get
    >>> proper french fries?

    >
    >>I don't think you can deep fry in olive oil.

    >
    > You can't. Or anyway, it's an extremely poor idea. Even if it
    > didn't smoke, it would vaporize.
    >
    > I do however oven-roast poatatoes brushed/tossed with olive oil
    > and salt, which works.


    Yes. I do the potatoes like that too.

    I once had a kitchen fire from olive oil. Many years ago. I heated a small
    amount on the stove in a skillet to use as a hair treatment. I didn't
    realize how quickly it would heat up! I walked into the other room for a
    minute. Fortunately my apartment was an open floor plan so I could see the
    fire from the living room! And fortunately it was a small fire because it
    was such a small amount of oil.



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    Julie Bove Guest

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    "Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:58:37 +0000 (UTC), Steve Pope wrote:
    >
    >> Julie Bove <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>"Zephirys" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    >>
    >>>> Which is the best oil between olive and sunflower one, in order to get
    >>>> proper french fries?

    >>
    >>>I don't think you can deep fry in olive oil.

    >>
    >> You can't.

    >
    > You certainly can, and very effectively.


    Really?



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    Julie Bove Guest

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    "Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 16:54:27 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
    >
    >> "Zephirys" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:k4aksc$v4e$[email protected]..
    >>> Which is the best oil between olive and sunflower one, in order to get
    >>> proper french fries?

    >>
    >> I don't think you can deep fry in olive oil.

    >
    > Sure you can. Just like any other oil. It has about the same smoke
    > point of Peanut Oil. And these even a couple of brands of potato
    > chips that are fried in pure olive oil.


    Hmmm... I was told by the lady who runs the health food store that I
    shouldn't pop popcorn in it because to get the oil that hot would release
    something dangerous within the oil. I can't remember what. MUFA? PUFA?
    Free radiicals? I don't remember. She told me that coconut oil was safer.

    Why the do some chefs recommend mixing butter with olive oil? Is that
    because the butter has a lower smoke point?



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    Julie Bove Guest

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    "Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:29:50 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote:
    >
    >> Bryan wrote:
    >>>
    >>> The only possible disadvantage to frying in olive oil
    >>> is if one does not like the taste of olive oil.

    >>
    >> Most of the flavor of olive oil is lost in cooking.
    >> If you want olive oil flavor, use it raw.

    >
    > No. If you want olive oil flavor, use extra virgin.


    I thought you were only supposed to use that when you were not cooking? I
    do cook with it because I don't want to have to buy two different ones. For
    a time I did buy the light only because I thought we didn't want such a
    strong flavor but... Everyone was fine with the EV so that's what I buy
    now.



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    Cheryl Guest

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    On 9/30/2012 11:36 PM, Julie Bove wrote:

    > Why the do some chefs recommend mixing butter with olive oil? Is that
    > because the butter has a lower smoke point?


    I can't answer that for anyone else, but I think it's the flavor
    combination.

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    Steve Pope Guest

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    Julie Bove <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Steve Pope" <[email protected]> wrote in message


    [oliv oil]

    >> You can't. Or anyway, it's an extremely poor idea. Even if it
    >> didn't smoke, it would vaporize.


    >> I do however oven-roast poatatoes brushed/tossed with olive oil
    >> and salt, which works.


    >Yes. I do the potatoes like that too.
    >amount on the stove in a skillet to use as a hair treatment. I didn't
    >realize how quickly it would heat up! I walked into the other room for a
    >minute. Fortunately my apartment was an open floor plan so I could see the
    >fire from the living room! And fortunately it was a small fire because it
    >was such a small amount of oil.


    Easy to believe. Remember, in classical times olive oil was burned
    in oil lamps. Eventually replaced by whale oil, and then, various
    mineral oils, fractionated from coal at first.

    Steve

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