Thread: Off topic - USA elections

On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:14:21 -0800 (PST), Bryan
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Has anyone else seen the video that the Gingrich folks made about
> Romney? Payback is a bitch.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrKlj4Q3nSQ
>
I knew it would make it to YouTube ASAP.

--

Ham and eggs.
A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig.

On Jan 12, 10:49*am, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:14:21 -0800 (PST), Bryan
>
> <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Has anyone else seen the video that the Gingrich folks made about
> > Romney? *Payback is a bitch.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrKlj4Q3nSQ
>
> I knew it would make it to YouTube ASAP.
>
Have you watched it? It's brutal. Here's what I wrote on my Facebook
page:
"Mitt could cause a religious revival in America. He's so evil that he
could almost convince a hardcore Atheist like myself to believe in the
existence of Satan." What an evil dude.

--Bryan

On Jan 12, 11:41*am, Bryan <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 12, 10:49*am, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:> On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:14:21 -0800 (PST), Bryan
>
> > <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Has anyone else seen the video that the Gingrich folks made about
> > > Romney? *Payback is a bitch.
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrKlj4Q3nSQ
>
> > I knew it would make it to YouTube ASAP.
>
> Have you watched it? *It's brutal. *Here's what I wrote on my Facebook
> page:
> "Mitt could cause a religious revival in America. He's so evil that he
> could almost convince a hardcore Atheist like myself to believe in the
> existence of Satan." *What an evil dude.
>
> --Bryan

Mitt Romney is an evil man. A "smiling jerk" as a friend of mine said
years ago. I think the Bible says something about when Satan comes you
will not recognize him as Satan. Well of course not! No one would
follow Satan knowing he was Satan! DUH! So of course he's gonna come
appearing as someone who wants to be your best friend. Good looking
and well dressed and mannered of course! The perfect con man.

Mitt fits the bill so perfectly, it's amazing!!

John Kuthe...

"John Kuthe" <Mitt Romney is an evil man. A "smiling jerk" as a friend of
mine said
years ago. I think the Bible says something about when Satan comes you
will not recognize him as Satan. Well of course not! No one would
follow Satan knowing he was Satan! DUH! So of course he's gonna come
appearing as someone who wants to be your best friend. Good looking
and well dressed and mannered of course! The perfect con man.

Mitt fits the bill so perfectly, it's amazing!!

John Kuthe...

Just so Mitt's breathing - or at least appears to be breathing, I'll vote
for him or Fidel or anybody else. We've had all of the Obama we can stand.
Polly

Polly Esther wrote:
>
> Just so Mitt's breathing - or at least appears to be breathing, I'll vote
> for him or Fidel or anybody else. We've had all of the Obama we can stand.

Obama seems destined to win a re-election to me. The republicans just can't
seem to find any good candidates so most ppl will just vote to keep things
the same.

Mostly, I'm a republican. I would like to see Obama replaced. He just
seems like a do nothing president like Carter was. I don't want Mitt Romney
though....he won't win. I like Newt myself but too many people seem to hate
him. Ron Paul? Well, at least he'll get my brother's vote.

Personally, I'd like to see Daniel Lawrence Whitney run and win the
presidency. Time for change here in the US!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_the_Cable_Guy

Gary

On Jan 12, 3:17*pm, Gary <g.maj...@att.net> wrote:
> Polly Esther wrote:
>
> > Just so Mitt's breathing - or at least appears to be breathing, I'll vote
> > for him or Fidel or anybody else. *We've had all of the Obama we can stand.
>
> Obama seems destined to win a re-election to me. *The republicans just can't
> seem to find any good candidates so most ppl will just vote to keep things
> the same.
>
> Mostly, I'm a republican. *I would like to see Obama replaced. *He just
> seems like a do nothing president like Carter was. *I don't want Mitt Romney
> though....he won't win. *I like Newt myself but too many people seem tohate
> him. *Ron Paul? *Well, at least he'll get my brother's vote.
>
> Personally, I'd like to see Daniel Lawrence Whitney run and win the
> presidency. *Time for change here in the US!
> *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_the_Cable_Guy
>
> Gary

The president never does much. It's all his advisors, big business,
etc. This goes for every president.

On Jan 12, 5:17*pm, Gary <g.maj...@att.net> wrote:
> Polly Esther wrote:
>
> > Just so Mitt's breathing - or at least appears to be breathing, I'll vote
> > for him or Fidel or anybody else. *We've had all of the Obama we can stand.
>
> Obama seems destined to win a re-election to me. *The republicans just can't
> seem to find any good candidates so most ppl will just vote to keep things
> the same.
>
> Mostly, I'm a republican. *I would like to see Obama replaced. *He just
> seems like a do nothing president like Carter was.

I had hoped for a second FDR. What we got was a second Bill Clinton.

>*I don't want Mitt Romney
> though....he won't win. *I like Newt myself but too many people seem tohate
> him. *Ron Paul? *Well, at least he'll get my brother's vote.
>
There's a reasonable candidate who is totally anti-reproductive choice
and totally for tax cuts for the rich, and screw working people (the
two central Republican values), but he doesn't have kooky enough views
on climate change and civil unions and immigration to satisfy the
Limbaugh and Beck listening GOP base, and that's Huntsman.

Your brother is an idiot, and probably a drug addled idiot, an Ayn
Rand book in one hand and a bong in the other.
>
> Gary

--Bryan

On Jan 12, 3:58*pm, "Polly Esther" <Polly...@cableone.net> wrote:
> "John Kuthe" <Mitt Romney is an evil man. A "smiling jerk" as a friend of
> mine said
> years ago. I think the Bible says something about when Satan comes you
> will not recognize him as Satan. Well of course not! No one would
> follow Satan knowing he was Satan! DUH! So of course he's gonna come
> appearing as someone who wants to be your best friend. Good looking
> and well dressed and mannered of course! The perfect con man.
>
> Mitt fits the bill so perfectly, it's amazing!!
>
> John Kuthe...
>
> Just so Mitt's breathing - or at least appears to be breathing, I'll vote
> for him or Fidel or anybody else. *We've had all of the Obama we can stand.

Please explain why you would prefer "Fidel" to Obama. That makes
little sense.
Are you saying that you would rather have an extreme Leftists than a
moderate?

> Polly

--Bryan

On Jan 12, 6:07*pm, Bryan <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 12, 3:58*pm, "Polly Esther" <Polly...@cableone.net> wrote:
....
>
> > Just so Mitt's breathing - or at least appears to be breathing, I'll vote
> > for him or Fidel or anybody else. *We've had all of the Obama we can stand.
>
> Please explain why you would prefer "Fidel" to Obama. *That makes
> little sense.
> Are you saying that you would rather have an extreme Leftists than a
> moderate?
>
> > Polly
>
> --Bryan

Bryan, one thing I learned in behavioral health nursing: do not buy
into the mentally ill's delusions.

This can be very difficult too!

John Kuthe...

"John Kuthe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Jan 12, 6:07 pm, Bryan <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 12, 3:58 pm, "Polly Esther" <Polly...@cableone.net> wrote:
....
>
> > Just so Mitt's breathing - or at least appears to be breathing, I'll
> > vote
> > for him or Fidel or anybody else. We've had all of the Obama we can
> > stand.
>
> Please explain why you would prefer "Fidel" to Obama. That makes
> little sense.
> Are you saying that you would rather have an extreme Leftists than a
> moderate?

Bryan, one thing I learned in behavioral health nursing: do not buy
into the mentally ill's delusions.

This can be very difficult too!

John Kuthe..

We prefer anybody to Obama. Regis Philbin, Alec Baldwin, Jose Jimenez -
doesn't matter. Polly

On Jan 12, 6:55*pm, "Polly Esther" <Polly...@cableone.net> wrote:
....
>
> We prefer anybody to Obama. *Regis Philbin, Alec Baldwin, Jose Jimenez -
> doesn't matter. Polly

Who is "we"? Got a mouse in your pocket?

John Kuthe...

Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://firstchurchofatheism.com/
>
> (Note the donations - there's not a lot of money in preaching Atheism)

Hey, that could be $82 per hour...

On Jan 12, 5:42*pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:41:40 -0800 (PST), Bryan wrote:
> > "Mitt could cause a religious revival in America. He's so evil that he
> > could almost convince a hardcore Atheist like myself to believe in the
> > existence of Satan." *What an evil dude.
>
> What is a hardcore atheist? *Do you go door to door preaching the
> non-existence of their respective deities? *To do so effectively you'd
> practically need a Masters in Theology. *Which would also give you the
> most credibility as an atheist, ironically.
>
I am a student of Theology. I work at a church. I am a *very*
ecumenical Atheist, but I thoroughly disbelieve in the existence of a
god, hence I am a hardcore Atheist, and not the least bit agnostic.
Most of the people whom I love and respect are Christians. I do not
evangelize Atheism because I think that Theism works well for most of
the believers in liberal Christianity and Judaism, and undermining a
person's faith in their god is not like revealing that Santa or the
Tooth Fairy is a fiction. Marx wrote that religion was the opiate of
the people, but that was as much a critique of the function of the
churches in Germany at that time, as a rejection of the value of
spirituality. He also wrote that the worst thing that Capitalism did
was to alienate people from spirituality. Quite a statement from an
Atheist, and one that I totally agree with. So much of the
progressive change in America resulted from theistic spirituality. In
the modern USA culture, I contend that it is sports, more than
anything else, that is the opium of the people.
What is more disturbing is the *unholy* alliance of the Calvinist
predestination mindset with the atheistic ideology of Ayn Rand, who
posited that selfishness is the highest virtue. That is scary ****,
and both Romney and Ron Paul have totally bought into it in their own
ways. The other GOP candidates have also done so, though to a lesser
extent. I hope that answers your question.
>
> -sw

--Bryan

"Sqwertz" <> It's not like a pH scale that goes from -7 to 7. Religiousness
is
> measured starting at zero and going up from there (highest I ever met
> was a 79, and that is pretty damned hardcore. She couldn't even
> mention God or Jesus without starting to cry). There is no known
> negative level of unreligiousness. Just like there is no negative
> level of pregnancy. But if you start genuinely crying speaking of your
> atheism then we'll consider it.
>
> -sw

I read what you wrote. Twice. Too complicated for my old brain . . . but
the OP's gotten off track. I am waiting for someone to laud Obama's
presidency and tell us how we're so much better off. Polly

Polly Esther wrote:
>
> "Sqwertz" <> It's not like a pH scale that goes from -7 to 7.
> Religiousness is
>> measured starting at zero and going up from there (highest I ever met
>> was a 79, and that is pretty damned hardcore. She couldn't even
>> mention God or Jesus without starting to cry). There is no known
>> negative level of unreligiousness. Just like there is no negative
>> level of pregnancy. But if you start genuinely crying speaking of your
>> atheism then we'll consider it.
>>
>> -sw
>
> I read what you wrote. Twice. Too complicated for my old brain . . .
> but the OP's gotten off track. I am waiting for someone to laud Obama's
> presidency and tell us how we're so much better off. Polly


He won the Nobel prize for being black (even tho' there's probably a
billion people in the world blacker than he is) So you have to give him
a break -- he's our first affirmative action president. (You didn't
really expect that to go well, did you?)

The Republicans seem to be trying to serve up their *weakest* candidate.
What's that all about? Are they afraid someone will call them "racist"
if they put up a good fight?

-Bob

"zxcvbob" <>
> He won the Nobel prize for being black (even tho' there's probably a
> billion people in the world blacker than he is) So you have to give him a
> break -- he's our first affirmative action president. (You didn't really
> expect that to go well, did you?)
>
> The Republicans seem to be trying to serve up their *weakest* candidate.
> What's that all about? Are they afraid someone will call them "racist" if
> they put up a good fight?
>
> -Bob
>
Good question, Bob. When you have time for some fun answers, go read
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/0...-blows-it.html
Polly

On Jan 12, 10:17*pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
....
> It's not like a pH scale that goes from -7 to 7.
....

Um, the pH scale does not go -7 to +7. DUH!!

I knew that in grade school! Of course I was a child chemistry geek
too. ;-)

John Kuthe...

On Jan 12, 10:17*pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:35:25 -0800 (PST), Bryan wrote:
> > On Jan 12, 5:42*pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:41:40 -0800 (PST), Bryan wrote:
> >>> "Mitt could cause a religious revival in America. He's so evil that he
> >>> could almost convince a hardcore Atheist like myself to believe in the
> >>> existence of Satan." *What an evil dude.
>
> >> What is a hardcore atheist? *Do you go door to door preaching the
> >> non-existence of their respective deities? *To do so effectively you'd
> >> practically need a Masters in Theology. *Which would also give you the
> >> most credibility as an atheist, ironically.
>
> > I am a student of Theology. *I work at a church.
>
> You're a janitor at a church. *You'ee not involved in any of the
> religious activities or teachings.

True, but I wouldn't have worked there all these years if I didn't
think they are a force for good, and I have studied comparative
religions..
>
> > I thoroughly disbelieve in the existence of a hence I am a hardcore Atheist
>
> It's not like a pH scale that goes from -7 to 7.

The pH scale goes from 0-14. There is no -7.

> Religiousness is measured starting at zero and going up from there (highest I ever met
> was a 79, and that is pretty damned hardcore. *She couldn't even
> mention God or Jesus without starting to cry). There is no known
> negative level of unreligiousness. *Just like there is no negative
> level of pregnancy. But if you start genuinely crying speaking of your
> atheism then we'll consider it.

First, what I wrote was a JOKE. Meant to be amusing.
>
> -sw

--Bryan

On Jan 12, 11:13*pm, "Polly Esther" <Polly...@cableone.net> wrote:
> "Sqwertz" <> It's not like a pH scale that goes from -7 to 7. *Religiousness
> is
>
> > measured starting at zero and going up from there (highest I ever met
> > was a 79, and that is pretty damned hardcore. *She couldn't even
> > mention God or Jesus without starting to cry). There is no known
> > negative level of unreligiousness. *Just like there is no negative
> > level of pregnancy. But if you start genuinely crying speaking of your
> > atheism then we'll consider it.
>
> > -sw
>
> I read what you wrote. *Twice. *Too complicated for my old brain . . .. but
> the OP's gotten off track. *I am waiting for someone to laud Obama's
> presidency and tell us how we're so much better off.

What caused the economic collapse was the top few percent looting
everyone else. When Clinton was president, we had a budget surplus.
The Bush tax cuts were a giveaway to the rich, and have resulted in
the widest gap between the super rich and everyone else since the
1920s. If the Republicans hadn't blocked everything they possibly
could, we'd be recovering much faster. They SAID that their priority
was making Obama a one term president, when their top priority SHOULD
HAVE BEEN economic recovery. The GOP has been willing to screw
millions of working Americans, just so they can screw Obama. Polly,
you are either rich, or REALLY stupid. I'd bet on the stupid.

Polly

--Bryan