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  1. #121
    Jim Elbrecht Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 09:30:13 -0800, [email protected] (Judy Haffner)
    wrote:

    >
    >Gary wrote:
    >
    >>Romney clearly won that debate. I used
    >> to think Obama would win this election
    >> easily. Not so sure now. The only thing I
    >> didn't like about Romney was the
    >> condescending smirk on his face while
    >> Obama was speaking. It made him
    >> appear arrogant.

    >
    >Yes, that was very evident, that Romney won that debate by a landslide,


    Yeah-- but look at this-
    http://cgi.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/.../history/1984/

    "In the first debate, Mondale was viewed as the more effective speaker
    and Reagan was said to have appeared tired and sometimes confused."

    Incumbents generally don't do well at their first debate. If Fritz
    Mondale could dazzle Ronald Reagan, then I guess anything can happen.


    >but there is still two more to to come.


    Phew!<g>

    Jim

  2. #122
    zxcvbob Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    Brooklyn1 wrote:
    > Boron Elgar wrote:
    >> "Christopher M." wrote:
    >>> Bush almost never missed an intelligence meeting. Meetings are more
    >>> significant than _written_ briefings.
    >>>
    >>> Obama attends about 40% of his intelligence meetings--less than half.

    >> That is because Obama is 2.5 times more intelligent than Bush.
    >>
    >> Boron

    >
    > That's a testimomial to your lack of intellect and judge of character.
    > Obama is a slick talking (when he has a teleprompter) street punk with
    > no expertise, no common sense, and no ethics whatsoever. Obama never
    > held a real job, obviously neither have you, nor have any of his
    > pinheaded butt kissers. Anyone who'd choose Obama to watch their back
    > over Bush is an imbecile.



    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog..._2012_p465.jpg

    --
    Bob

  3. #123
    Christopher M. Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"


    "Steve Pope" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:k4p89q$vve$[email protected]..
    > "Christopher M." <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Obama attends about 40% of his intelligence meetings--less than half.

    >
    > He's the president... doesn't he get to decide when to hold a
    > meeting he will attend, and when to instruct other people to hold one?
    >
    > Are you saying there should be no "intelligence meetings" he
    > doesn't attend? The CIA would grind to a halt if the Prez
    > had to attend every meeting.


    It sounds like you don't know what a daily intelligence briefing is, Steve.


    W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)



  4. #124
    Christopher M. Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"


    "Jim Elbrecht" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 22:26:33 -0400, "Christopher M."
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"Jim Elbrecht" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected] ..
    >>> "Christopher M." <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> -snip-
    >>>>
    >>>>Obama attends about 40% of his intelligence meetings--less than half.
    >>>
    >>> Not likely-
    >>> http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...nce-briefings/
    >>>
    >>> Jim

    >>
    >>Really Jim?
    >>
    >>"The White House does not directly dispute the numbers"

    >
    > You clipped that quote a little early-- Here's the rest;
    > "The White House does not directly dispute the numbers, but insists
    > they are a "selective representation of the facts." Obama has never
    > "skipped" a Presidential Daily Briefing, aides say, even if an
    > in-person briefing isn't listed on his schedule."
    >
    >>
    >>Here's the president's schedule if you want to check it out:
    >>http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-W34
    >>

    >
    > Kind of fruitless if they don't list them.
    >
    > If you want to read about his days- try this one;
    > http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2...e-barack-obama
    >
    > Jim


    I don't read that crap, Jim.


    W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)



  5. #125
    Christopher M. Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    spamtrap1888 wrote:
    > On Oct 6, 5:30 am, "Christopher M." <nospam_flibb...@floo.com> wrote:
    >> "Judy Haffner" <jhaff...@webtv.net> wrote in message
    >>
    >> news:[email protected]..
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> Christopher wrote:

    >>
    >>>> Bush almost never missed an
    >>>> intelligence meeting. Meetings are more
    >>>> significant than _written_ briefings.

    >>
    >>> I very much liked Bush, and also his wife Laura. He might have made
    >>> some mistakes, nor been a perfect president, but certainly better
    >>> than some, and it "ticks" me off to no end that he's STILL getting
    >>> blamed for the situation our country is in now.....four years later
    >>> under new leadership.

    >>
    >> A lot of people blame Bush for the economic crisis. But it wasn't
    >> Bush who caused all those banks to fail. It was the subprime
    >> mortgage crisis. It was people like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd who
    >> forced banks to give mortgages to people that couldn't afford them.
    >> The banks ended up with a lot of worthless mortgages, and they found
    >> a loophole.

    >
    > Oh, bless your heart. It had NOTHING to do with Barney Frank or Chris
    > Dodd, who belonged to the MINORITY party when the Wall Street party
    > was going on.


    Barney Frank was the House Financial Services Committee _Chairman_.

    Chris Dodd was the Senate Banking Committee by _Chairman_.


    W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)



  6. #126
    Somebody Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    "Jim Elbrecht" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..

    > If you want to read about his days- try this one;
    > http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2...e-barack-obama
    >
    > Jim



    makes me miss Hitchens...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN61Y...=results_video



  7. #127
    spamtrap1888 Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    On Oct 6, 10:39*am, "Somebody" <e...@mail.au> wrote:
    > "spamtrap1888" <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:[email protected]...
    > Failing: Carter
    >
    > His work with Habitat should bump him up a notch or two... *And if the
    > failed Iranian rescue mission hadn't failed, he would have been re-elected.


    He was no leader. And only what they did during their presidencies
    counts.

  8. #128
    spamtrap1888 Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    On Oct 6, 5:06*pm, "Christopher M." <nospam_flibb...@floo.com> wrote:
    > spamtrap1888 wrote:
    > > On Oct 6, 5:30 am, "Christopher M." <nospam_flibb...@floo.com> wrote:
    > >> "Judy Haffner" <jhaff...@webtv.net> wrote in message

    >
    > >>news:[email protected]..

    >
    > >>> Christopher wrote:

    >
    > >>>> Bush almost never missed an
    > >>>> intelligence meeting. Meetings are more
    > >>>> significant than _written_ briefings.

    >
    > >>> I very much liked Bush, and also his wife Laura. He might have made
    > >>> some mistakes, nor been a perfect president, but certainly better
    > >>> than some, and it "ticks" me off to no end that he's STILL getting
    > >>> blamed for the situation our country is in now.....four years later
    > >>> under new leadership.

    >
    > >> A lot of people blame Bush for the economic crisis. But it wasn't
    > >> Bush who caused all those banks to fail. It was the subprime
    > >> mortgage crisis. It was people like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd who
    > >> forced banks to give mortgages to people that couldn't afford them.
    > >> The banks ended up with a lot of worthless mortgages, and they found
    > >> a loophole.

    >
    > > Oh, bless your heart. It had NOTHING to do with Barney Frank or Chris
    > > Dodd, who belonged to the MINORITY party when the Wall Street party
    > > was going on.

    >
    > Barney Frank was the House Financial Services Committee _Chairman_.
    >
    > Chris Dodd was the *Senate Banking Committee by _Chairman_.
    >


    Starting in 2007 when the economy was already in freefall, you dolt.
    Not till the Democrats got back in power in Congress was there housing
    reform.

  9. #129
    spamtrap1888 Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    On Oct 6, 5:51*am, Jim Elbrecht <elbre...@email.com> wrote:
    > On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 22:26:33 -0400, "Christopher M."
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > <nospam_flibb...@floo.com> wrote:
    >
    > >"Jim Elbrecht" <elbre...@email.com> wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected]. .
    > >> "Christopher M." <nospam_flibb...@floo.com> wrote:

    >
    > >> -snip-

    >
    > >>>Obama attends about 40% of his intelligence meetings--less than half.

    >
    > >> Not likely-
    > >>http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...nt-obama-skipp....

    >
    > >> Jim

    >
    > >Really Jim?

    >
    > >"The White House does not directly dispute the numbers"

    >
    > You clipped that quote a little early-- Here's the rest;
    > "The White House does not directly dispute the numbers, but insists
    > they are a selective representation of the facts. *Obama has never
    > skipped a Presidential Daily Briefing, aides say, even if an
    > in-person briefing isn t listed on his schedule."
    >
    >
    >
    > >Here's the president's schedule if you want to check it out:
    > >http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-W34

    >
    > Kind of fruitless if they don't list them.
    >
    > If you want to read about his days- try this one;http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2...s-profile-bara...
    >


    If you want to read about Michael Lewis's previous life as a girlie
    man, click here:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/janet-..._b_498781.html

  10. #130
    Steve Pope Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    Christopher M. <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Steve Pope" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:k4p89q$vve$[email protected]..
    >> "Christopher M." <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Obama attends about 40% of his intelligence meetings--less than half.

    >>
    >> He's the president... doesn't he get to decide when to hold a
    >> meeting he will attend, and when to instruct other people to hold one?
    >>
    >> Are you saying there should be no "intelligence meetings" he
    >> doesn't attend? The CIA would grind to a halt if the Prez
    >> had to attend every meeting.

    >
    >It sounds like you don't know what a daily intelligence briefing is, Steve.


    What, does the constitution now require a president to hold and attend
    daily intelligence briefings?

    Last I heard the neo-cons have not yet rammed through their set
    of constitutional amendments....


    S.

  11. #131
    John John Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 13:40:21 -0400, "Somebody" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"spamtrap1888" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >Failing: Carter
    >
    >His work with Habitat should bump him up a notch or two... And if the
    >failed Iranian rescue mission hadn't failed, he would have been re-elected.


    The Reagan camp made sure the hostages weren't released before the
    election. That's good old Republican patriotism for ya.

    --
    John

  12. #132
    spamtrap1888 Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    On Oct 6, 9:21*pm, John John <J...@invalid.net> wrote:
    > On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 13:40:21 -0400, "Somebody" <e...@mail.au> wrote:
    > >"spamtrap1888" <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected]....
    > >Failing: Carter

    >
    > >His work with Habitat should bump him up a notch or two... *And if the
    > >failed Iranian rescue mission hadn't failed, he would have been re-elected.

    >
    > The Reagan camp made sure the hostages weren't released before the
    > election. That's good old Republican patriotism for ya.
    >


    You forgot that eventually Reagan sold munitions to the Ayatollah. A
    funny coincidence.

  13. #133
    John John Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 21:41:48 -0800, [email protected] (Judy Haffner)
    wrote:

    >I very much liked Bush, and also his wife Laura. He might have made some
    >mistakes, nor been a perfect president, but certainly better than some,
    >and it "ticks" me off to no end that he's STILL getting blamed for the
    >situation our country is in now.....four years later under new
    >leadership.


    One bad president can do more damage than one average president can
    fix.

    --
    John

  14. #134
    Gary Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    John John wrote:
    >
    > On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 13:40:21 -0400, "Somebody" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >"spamtrap1888" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected]...
    > >Failing: Carter
    > >
    > >His work with Habitat should bump him up a notch or two... And if the
    > >failed Iranian rescue mission hadn't failed, he would have been re-elected.

    >
    > The Reagan camp made sure the hostages weren't released before the
    > election. That's good old Republican patriotism for ya.


    If Carter had been re-elected, those hostages wouldn't have been released.
    Notice how they kept them until Reagan was elected.

    The one thing I hand to Reagan (my favorite ex-president) is that he
    restored patriotism to our country. We had Kennedy that somewhat escalated
    the Vietnam war, then Johnson really made a mess of it. Johnson ignored the
    advice of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and played it his own way. Nixon ended
    it but he timed it until his re-election. Then Ford bailed him out and
    everyone was mad about that. Then came Carter who was a worthless
    president.

    By then, most ppl had a bad attitude about our government. Reagan retored
    that with his speeches, at least to me. You might hate Reagan but you are
    in the minority. Don't forget he won election over Carter in a landslide and
    he easily won re-election 4 years later.

    G.

  15. #135
    John John Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:39:00 -0400, Gary <[email protected]> wrote:

    >John John wrote:
    >>
    >> On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 13:40:21 -0400, "Somebody" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >"spamtrap1888" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> >news:[email protected]...
    >> >Failing: Carter
    >> >
    >> >His work with Habitat should bump him up a notch or two... And if the
    >> >failed Iranian rescue mission hadn't failed, he would have been re-elected.

    >>
    >> The Reagan camp made sure the hostages weren't released before the
    >> election. That's good old Republican patriotism for ya.

    >
    >If Carter had been re-elected, those hostages wouldn't have been released.
    >Notice how they kept them until Reagan was elected.


    Isn't it a generally accepted fact that the Reagan camp payed the
    Iranians (money and/or weapons) to keep the hostages until after the
    election?

    --
    John


  16. #136
    Gary Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    John John wrote:
    >
    > On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:39:00 -0400, Gary wrote:


    > >If Carter had been re-elected, those hostages wouldn't have been released.
    > >Notice how they kept them until Reagan was elected.

    >
    > Isn't it a generally accepted fact that the Reagan camp payed the
    > Iranians (money and/or weapons) to keep the hostages until after the
    > election?


    Hard-core democrats believe that.
    Perhaps the Carter camp should have offered that too. We're talking about
    innocent hostages here.

    G.

  17. #137
    Christopher M. Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"


    "Steve Pope" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:k4qvub$mh9$1@blue-new.rahul.n[email protected]..
    > Christopher M. <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"Steve Pope" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:k4p89q$vve$[email protected]..
    >>> "Christopher M." <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Obama attends about 40% of his intelligence meetings--less than half.
    >>>
    >>> He's the president... doesn't he get to decide when to hold a
    >>> meeting he will attend, and when to instruct other people to hold one?
    >>>
    >>> Are you saying there should be no "intelligence meetings" he
    >>> doesn't attend? The CIA would grind to a halt if the Prez
    >>> had to attend every meeting.

    >>
    >>It sounds like you don't know what a daily intelligence briefing is,
    >>Steve.

    >
    > What, does the constitution now require a president to hold and attend
    > daily intelligence briefings?
    >
    > Last I heard the neo-cons have not yet rammed through their set
    > of constitutional amendments....


    You love it.


    W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)



  18. #138
    Christopher M. Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    spamtrap1888 wrote:
    > On Oct 6, 5:06 pm, "Christopher M." <nospam_flibb...@floo.com> wrote:
    >> spamtrap1888 wrote:
    >>> On Oct 6, 5:30 am, "Christopher M." <nospam_flibb...@floo.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>> "Judy Haffner" <jhaff...@webtv.net> wrote in message

    >>
    >>>> news:[email protected]..

    >>
    >>>>> Christopher wrote:

    >>
    >>>>>> Bush almost never missed an
    >>>>>> intelligence meeting. Meetings are more
    >>>>>> significant than _written_ briefings.

    >>
    >>>>> I very much liked Bush, and also his wife Laura. He might have
    >>>>> made some mistakes, nor been a perfect president, but certainly
    >>>>> better than some, and it "ticks" me off to no end that he's STILL
    >>>>> getting blamed for the situation our country is in now.....four
    >>>>> years later under new leadership.

    >>
    >>>> A lot of people blame Bush for the economic crisis. But it wasn't
    >>>> Bush who caused all those banks to fail. It was the subprime
    >>>> mortgage crisis. It was people like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd who
    >>>> forced banks to give mortgages to people that couldn't afford them.
    >>>> The banks ended up with a lot of worthless mortgages, and they
    >>>> found a loophole.

    >>
    >>> Oh, bless your heart. It had NOTHING to do with Barney Frank or
    >>> Chris Dodd, who belonged to the MINORITY party when the Wall Street
    >>> party was going on.

    >>
    >> Barney Frank was the House Financial Services Committee _Chairman_.
    >>
    >> Chris Dodd was the Senate Banking Committee by _Chairman_.
    >>

    >
    > Starting in 2007 when the economy was already in freefall, you dolt.
    > Not till the Democrats got back in power in Congress was there housing
    > reform.


    I guess Bush and Barney were both too liberal.

    They should have been more fiscally conservative.

    Although Barney Frank was in bed with Fannie Mae, quite literally.


    W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)



  19. #139
    George M. Middius Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    spamtrap1888 wrote:

    > You forgot that eventually Reagan sold munitions to the Ayatollah. A
    > funny coincidence.


    I thought that was a back-door op engineered by Poindexter and North.
    Did they ever conclusively connect it to Reagan?



  20. #140
    spamtrap1888 Guest

    Default Re: "Obama, by contrast, looked unhappy"

    On Oct 7, 11:24*am, George M. Middius <glanb...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > spamtrap1888 wrote:
    > > You forgot that eventually Reagan sold munitions to the Ayatollah. A
    > > funny coincidence.

    >
    > I thought that was a back-door op engineered by Poindexter and North.
    > Did they ever conclusively connect it to Reagan?


    Under the Republican rule of Presidential responsibility -- most
    recent example, that a guntracking operation run out of a regional ATF
    bureau is Obama's fault -- everything that happens in the Executive
    branch is the direct responsibility of the Executive.

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