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  1. #1
    Kris Guest

    Default NYC Trip Report (long)

    Hello everyone,

    Thanks again to all who helped me with ideas for our trip last week. I
    tried to get as much in as possible. Sorry if this is a bit late (we
    got back a few days ago), but I feel like I've been playing catch-up
    ever since. Plus I wanted to do the write-up justice, as some
    requested a full report.

    We stayed basically on Manhattan (unless you count the brief
    turnaround time on Staten Island for the ferry and Queens for
    LaGuardia). Next time it would be nice to also include Brooklyn. We
    went all over - from Battery Park up to Harlem via foot, train and
    cab. A great time even if it was hot and sticky.

    Here is the culinary highlights of the trip:

    I. Deli Lunch

    We wanted a great NY deli lunch so we chose Carnegie Deli. I know this
    is good but touristy, but I'm also a Woody Allen fan and he filmed a
    movie here, so that's how we chose it.

    Atmosphere is fun, famous patron pictures everywhere. Service is a bit
    curt, but efficient. Was annoyed that my small 3.00 ice tea came with
    no refills, but at least they kept the water glasses filled well.

    The real story here is the food. I ordered the Woody Allen (half
    corned beef, half pastrami on rye) and my husband got the beef knish
    with gravy, and we planned to split both. The huge sandwich was so big
    I opened my half up and ate most of the meat with a fork. The Meat was
    delicous!!! Best corned beef I've every had and the patrami was also
    outstanding. The knish was great but was sadly almost an afterthought
    of the ginormous sandwich. They also give you a bowl of regular and
    half-sour (my favorite) pickles.

    The place is very expensive ($40 for both of us, no dessert), with a
    splitting charge for the sandwich which was also annoying since we
    both ordered an entree. But I realize their fame lets them get away
    with it, and since I don't get to NY often, I let it slide. Especially
    since the food was really, really satisfying.

    II. Pastries

    Found an amazing patisserie called Financier. Grabbed breakfast there
    one morning - cream cheese danishes and mini apple tart and some juice
    to go with our lattes. On top of that, I got the BEST french macaron
    EVER there - pistachio. Wish I had bought more of those for later...

    III. Another Lunch

    Went to the Union Square Cafe, a very popular NY place (Ina Garten's
    fave in the city). I had Spaghettini with Fresh Tomato-Anchovy Sauce,
    Lemon Zest, Chili, Parsley and Rustic Bread Crumbs. Husband got a
    short papardelle type pasta (forget the name of the shape) with
    homemade fennel sausage and spinach. Everything was excellent, down
    to the bread basket that had great selection including flatbread and
    was served with butter sprinkled with a house-made rosemary salt. I
    feel bad for not having dessert, but it was so hot that I drank a lot
    of iced tea and frankly didn't had room. Next time!

    IV. 21 Club Dinner

    I've wanted to eat here ever since I read it was Joan Crawford's
    favorite while I was in high school! (That was, ahem, over 20 years
    ago..) It didn't disappoint.

    The staff is impeccably trained to give wonderful service yet be
    unobtrusive. Even the drinks waiter was so great I wanted to take him
    home with me!

    The atmopshere was wonderfully old-school New York. Yet it attained
    that hard-to-do mix of top-drawer yet relaxed with a bit of whimsy
    thrown in (just see all of the toys on the ceiling).

    The food is very solid. Even the prix-fixe menus (an excellent value)
    had terrific choices such as pork belly and salmon. Even the coffee,
    served with mint meringues, was delicious.

    And I have to say, they served the best citron and tonic I've ever had
    in my life! A well-mixed drink is a thing a beauty indeed.

    V. Dinner at Artisanal

    This French bistro knows their cheese. In the back room, they have "La
    Cave Fromage" filled with temp and humidity controlled cheese vaults
    with dozens of varieties (this is why I chose the cheese plate for
    dessert to have a sampling).

    Fun atmosphere, and a huge amount of choices on the menu. Started with
    the best warm gougeres I've ever had! Then we both opted for the prix
    fixe menu after that (excellent value) and the salads and entrees were
    terrific! Had an amazing beet salad with walnuts and a big dollop of
    soft (think ricotta texture) goat cheese. Follwed by some of the best
    mussels frites I've ever had (and I've had them at many places).
    Husband had the terrific chicken cooked under a brick. Opted for the
    cheese plate for dessert (HAD to at a place that is a fromagerie!) and
    it was well-chosen and excellent. Tom had an apple tarte tatin.

    VI. Vodka Tasting at the Russian Tea Room

    I know this place is touristy and overpriced for what you get, even
    though the food is supposed to be OK. But I wanted to see the place
    (plus I'm a big fan of the movie Tootsie, which had a hilarious scene
    there). PLUS they do a bargain Vodka Tasting Happy Hour. Got a flight
    of four vodkas for $18, which could be chosen from literally dozens on
    the list. One was vile (a Swedish one made of golden potatoes), the
    rest were sublime - like a berry one that would make a great after-
    dinner drink. A fun way to see the place while still leaving room
    (and budget) for food elsewhere. Plus the place is beautiful!

    VII. Zabar's

    This place is foodie heaven, fun just to walk around. Big and
    bustling,crammed with a fantastic selection from breads to olives to
    halvah. Has counters for smoked fish, cheese, deli,etc. Men hand-
    scoop great-smelling coffee into bags for you (I bought a lot of this
    so I could do gifts). Bought an amazing cream cheese and blueberry
    strudel to take over the Central Park and nibble on, then saved the
    rest to eat at the airport to save us from the meager seelctions
    there. Got my first (and only, I suspect) celery tonic since I've
    always wanted to try it.

    VIII. Miscellany

    Tried to grab little things here and there. Rugelach from little
    coffee shops, "dirty water" hot dog since they're iconic, etc.

    I wish I could have had more time (hence more meals). Or that I was
    bulimic so I could continue eating...

    I should turn 40 (urgh) more often!

    Kris





  2. #2
    Cheryl Guest

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    "Kris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    > I wish I could have had more time (hence more meals). Or that I was
    > bulimic so I could continue eating...
    >
    > I should turn 40 (urgh) more often!


    It all sounds so good! I'm glad you had a good trip, and happy belated
    40th!



  3. #3
    Kris Guest

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    On Jul 17, 4:14*pm, "Cheryl" <jlhsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > "Kris" <shanno...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    > > I wish I could have had more time (hence more meals). Or that I was
    > > bulimic so I could continue eating...

    >
    > > I should turn 40 (urgh) more often!

    >
    > It all sounds so good! *I'm glad you had a good trip, and happy belated
    > 40th!


    Thank you!

    Kris

  4. #4
    George Leppla Guest

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    On 7/17/2010 2:50 PM, Kris wrote:
    > Hello everyone,
    >
    > Thanks again to all who helped me with ideas for our trip last week. I
    > tried to get as much in as possible. Sorry if this is a bit late (we
    > got back a few days ago), but I feel like I've been playing catch-up
    > ever since. Plus I wanted to do the write-up justice, as some
    > requested a full report.


    Thanks for the trip report.... I am glad you had a great time and thanks
    for sharing it with us.

    I haven't been to NY in about 5 years and the way my future trips are
    looking, it may be another 5 before I get there. Too many places to
    visit.. so little time.

    And Happy Birthday!

    George L

  5. #5
    sf Guest

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    On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:50:16 -0700 (PDT), Kris <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > I wish I could have had more time (hence more meals). Or that I was
    > bulimic so I could continue eating...


    Thanks for the report, glad to hear you enjoyed yourself in NYC! Was
    it hot?
    >
    > I should turn 40 (urgh) more often!


    You have another 0 coming up in a little less than 10 years.


    --

    Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

  6. #6
    Nancy Young Guest

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    Kris wrote:

    > I wish I could have had more time (hence more meals). Or that I was
    > bulimic so I could continue eating...


    Thanks for the story! You really got around, I love that. I'm
    really happy to hear you got to Central Park, it's one of my
    favorite things, and I hardly ever get to visit when I'm in
    Manhattan. I'm jealous of your sandwich.

    nancy

  7. #7
    Kris Guest

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    On Jul 17, 4:57*pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
    > On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:50:16 -0700 (PDT), Kris <shanno...@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > I wish I could have had more time (hence more meals). Or that I was
    > > bulimic so I could continue eating...

    >
    > Thanks for the report, glad to hear you enjoyed yourself in NYC! *Was
    > it hot?
    >
    >
    >
    > > I should turn 40 (urgh) more often!

    >
    > You have another 0 coming up in a little less than 10 years. *
    >
    > --
    >
    > Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.


    Oh yes, it was hot and sticky. But since we missed the 100+ degree
    days, we considered it a gift.

    I think 50 means a whole WEEK there!

    Kris

  8. #8
    Kris Guest

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    On Jul 17, 4:57*pm, George Leppla <geo...@cruisemaster.com> wrote:
    > On 7/17/2010 2:50 PM, Kris wrote:
    >
    > > Hello everyone,

    >
    > > Thanks again to all who helped me with ideas for our trip last week. I
    > > tried to get as much in as possible. Sorry if this is a bit late (we
    > > got back a few days ago), but I feel like I've been playing catch-up
    > > ever since. Plus I wanted to do the write-up justice, as some
    > > requested a full report.

    >
    > Thanks for the trip report.... I am glad you had a great time and thanks
    > for sharing it * with us.
    >
    > I haven't been to NY in about 5 years and the way my future trips are
    > looking, it may be another 5 before I get there. *Too many places to
    > visit.. so little time.
    >
    > And Happy Birthday!
    >
    > George L


    Thanks. I hope you get there sooner rather than later.

    Kris

  9. #9
    Kris Guest

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    On Jul 17, 5:19*pm, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
    > Kris wrote:
    > > I wish I could have had more time (hence more meals). Or that I was
    > > bulimic so I could continue eating...

    >
    > Thanks for the story! *You really got around, I love that. *I'm
    > really happy to hear you got to Central Park, it's one of my
    > favorite things, and I hardly ever get to visit when I'm in
    > Manhattan. *I'm jealous of your sandwich.
    >
    > nancy *


    That sandwich could feed 3 or 4!!

    CP really is lovely. And huge! Takes a while to walk.

    Kris

  10. #10
    Pennyaline Guest

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    On 7/17/2010 13:50, Kris wrote:

    <touristy, fartsy, Ina Garten-motivated stuff snipped>

    Didn't anybody tell you to be sure to go to Papaya King??

    <them's eats!>

  11. #11
    Nancy Young Guest

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    Kris wrote:
    > On Jul 17, 5:19 pm, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
    >> Kris wrote:
    >>> I wish I could have had more time (hence more meals). Or that I was
    >>> bulimic so I could continue eating...

    >>
    >> Thanks for the story! You really got around, I love that. I'm
    >> really happy to hear you got to Central Park, it's one of my
    >> favorite things, and I hardly ever get to visit when I'm in
    >> Manhattan. I'm jealous of your sandwich.


    > That sandwich could feed 3 or 4!!


    Isn't it great? (laugh) Luckily there's a place near me that has
    sandwiches like that, and they come with the wrapping for
    leftovers. Satisfies that occasional craving for a real deli
    sandwich.

    And please excuse my manners, I hit send before I said
    Happy Birthday!

    > CP really is lovely. And huge! Takes a while to walk.


    You look at a map of Manhattan, you just have to shake your
    head at the foresight it took to set aside that property. I just
    love being there, though I've never seen it all.

    Hope you got to see a show or two while you were there.

    nancy

  12. #12
    koko Guest

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    On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:50:16 -0700 (PDT), Kris <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Hello everyone,
    >
    >Thanks again to all who helped me with ideas for our trip last week.


    snipped great sounding trip.

    Wow, sounds like you had a great time and some wonderful food.

    koko
    --

    There is no love more sincere than the love of food
    George Bernard Shaw

    www.kokoscornerblog.com
    updated 07/17/10
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    www.apinchofspices.com


  13. #13
    Boron Elgar Guest

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    On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:50:16 -0700 (PDT), Kris <[email protected]>
    wrote:


    >
    >Here is the culinary highlights of the trip:
    >
    >I. Deli Lunch
    >
    >We wanted a great NY deli lunch so we chose Carnegie Deli. I know this
    >is good but touristy, but I'm also a Woody Allen fan and he filmed a
    >movie here, so that's how we chose it.


    >II. Pastries
    >
    >Found an amazing patisserie called Financier.


    >III. Another Lunch
    >
    >Went to the Union Square Cafe,
    >
    >IV. 21 Club Dinner
    >
    >I've wanted to eat here ever since I read it was Joan Crawford's
    >favorite while I was in high school! (That was, ahem, over 20 years
    >ago..) It didn't disappoint.
    >
    >V. Dinner at Artisanal
    >


    >VI. Vodka Tasting at the Russian Tea Room
    >


    >VII. Zabar's
    >
    >
    >VIII. Miscellany
    >


    What a wonderful culinary adventure...a bit of the high life, a bit of
    this, a bit of that...it sounds as if you had a wonderful time.

    I hope you can visit again very soon.

    Boron

  14. #14
    Melba's Jammin' Guest

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    In article
    <[email protected]>,
    Kris <[email protected]> wrote:

    > VII. Zabar's
    >
    > This place is foodie heaven, fun just to walk around. Big and
    > bustling,crammed with a fantastic selection from breads to olives to
    > halvah. Has counters for smoked fish, cheese, deli,etc. Men hand-
    > scoop great-smelling coffee into bags for you (I bought a lot of this
    > so I could do gifts). Bought an amazing cream cheese and blueberry
    > strudel to take over the Central Park and nibble on, then saved the
    > rest to eat at the airport to save us from the meager seelctions
    > there. Got my first (and only, I suspect) celery tonic since I've
    > always wanted to try it.



    > Kris


    Jeez, Kris, I hope you got upstairs at Zabar's.
    Re Dr. Brown's Cel-Ray Tonic, we bought a case (locally available here)
    for a friend's wedding gift. :-) He'd have me bring a couple cans back
    for him before the TSA got nuts about liquids.


    --
    Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
    Holy Order of the Sacred Sisters of
    St. Pectina of Jella
    "Always in a jam, never in a stew;
    sometimes in a pickle."
    Where are my pearls, Honey?

  15. #15
    Virginia Tadrzynski Guest

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    "Kris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Hello everyone,

    wonderful travelogue clipped to save space.
    >
    > I should turn 40 (urgh) more often!
    >
    > Kris
    >
    >
    >
    >

    I would say "Happy Birthday", but it sounds like you DID have a happy one.
    ED (eldest daughter) spent three weeks in NYC on a 'working' trip with her
    college. She stayed in a nunnery on the tip of Manhattan Island with a
    window view of the skyline AND the Statue of Liberty (those nuns know how to
    live). She was next to Chinatown and near the Lubavitch markets. She comes
    home and says "Mom, YOU have to go."

    Since we're about an hour to an hour a half away AND my big "0" birthday is
    coming up (bump yours up to the next decade)....that may be my request.

    Hope your next year is as satisfying as the entrance to it!!!!
    -ginny



  16. #16
    brooklyn1 Guest

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    On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:50:16 -0700 (PDT), Kris <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Hello everyone,
    >
    >Thanks again to all who helped me with ideas for our trip last week. I
    >tried to get as much in as possible. Sorry if this is a bit late (we
    >got back a few days ago), but I feel like I've been playing catch-up
    >ever since. Plus I wanted to do the write-up justice, as some
    >requested a full report.
    >
    >We stayed basically on Manhattan (unless you count the brief
    >turnaround time on Staten Island for the ferry and Queens for
    >LaGuardia). Next time it would be nice to also include Brooklyn. We
    >went all over - from Battery Park up to Harlem via foot, train and
    >cab. A great time even if it was hot and sticky.
    >
    >Here is the culinary highlights of the trip:
    >
    >I. Deli Lunch
    >
    >We wanted a great NY deli lunch so we chose Carnegie Deli. I know this
    >is good but touristy, but I'm also a Woody Allen fan and he filmed a
    >movie here, so that's how we chose it.
    >
    >Atmosphere is fun, famous patron pictures everywhere. Service is a bit
    >curt, but efficient. Was annoyed that my small 3.00 ice tea came with
    >no refills, but at least they kept the water glasses filled well.
    >
    >The real story here is the food. I ordered the Woody Allen (half
    >corned beef, half pastrami on rye) and my husband got the beef knish
    >with gravy, and we planned to split both. The huge sandwich was so big
    >I opened my half up and ate most of the meat with a fork. The Meat was
    >delicous!!! Best corned beef I've every had and the patrami was also
    >outstanding. The knish was great but was sadly almost an afterthought
    >of the ginormous sandwich. They also give you a bowl of regular and
    >half-sour (my favorite) pickles.
    >
    >The place is very expensive ($40 for both of us, no dessert), with a
    >splitting charge for the sandwich which was also annoying since we
    >both ordered an entree. But I realize their fame lets them get away
    >with it, and since I don't get to NY often, I let it slide. Especially
    >since the food was really, really satisfying.
    >
    >II. Pastries
    >
    >Found an amazing patisserie called Financier. Grabbed breakfast there
    >one morning - cream cheese danishes and mini apple tart and some juice
    >to go with our lattes. On top of that, I got the BEST french macaron
    >EVER there - pistachio. Wish I had bought more of those for later...
    >
    >III. Another Lunch
    >
    >Went to the Union Square Cafe, a very popular NY place (Ina Garten's
    >fave in the city). I had Spaghettini with Fresh Tomato-Anchovy Sauce,
    >Lemon Zest, Chili, Parsley and Rustic Bread Crumbs. Husband got a
    >short papardelle type pasta (forget the name of the shape) with
    >homemade fennel sausage and spinach. Everything was excellent, down
    >to the bread basket that had great selection including flatbread and
    >was served with butter sprinkled with a house-made rosemary salt. I
    >feel bad for not having dessert, but it was so hot that I drank a lot
    >of iced tea and frankly didn't had room. Next time!
    >
    >IV. 21 Club Dinner
    >
    >I've wanted to eat here ever since I read it was Joan Crawford's
    >favorite while I was in high school! (That was, ahem, over 20 years
    >ago..) It didn't disappoint.
    >
    >The staff is impeccably trained to give wonderful service yet be
    >unobtrusive. Even the drinks waiter was so great I wanted to take him
    >home with me!
    >
    >The atmopshere was wonderfully old-school New York. Yet it attained
    >that hard-to-do mix of top-drawer yet relaxed with a bit of whimsy
    >thrown in (just see all of the toys on the ceiling).
    >
    >The food is very solid. Even the prix-fixe menus (an excellent value)
    >had terrific choices such as pork belly and salmon. Even the coffee,
    >served with mint meringues, was delicious.
    >
    >And I have to say, they served the best citron and tonic I've ever had
    >in my life! A well-mixed drink is a thing a beauty indeed.
    >
    >V. Dinner at Artisanal
    >
    >This French bistro knows their cheese. In the back room, they have "La
    >Cave Fromage" filled with temp and humidity controlled cheese vaults
    >with dozens of varieties (this is why I chose the cheese plate for
    >dessert to have a sampling).
    >
    >Fun atmosphere, and a huge amount of choices on the menu. Started with
    >the best warm gougeres I've ever had! Then we both opted for the prix
    >fixe menu after that (excellent value) and the salads and entrees were
    >terrific! Had an amazing beet salad with walnuts and a big dollop of
    >soft (think ricotta texture) goat cheese. Follwed by some of the best
    >mussels frites I've ever had (and I've had them at many places).
    >Husband had the terrific chicken cooked under a brick. Opted for the
    >cheese plate for dessert (HAD to at a place that is a fromagerie!) and
    >it was well-chosen and excellent. Tom had an apple tarte tatin.
    >
    >VI. Vodka Tasting at the Russian Tea Room
    >
    >I know this place is touristy and overpriced for what you get, even
    >though the food is supposed to be OK. But I wanted to see the place
    >(plus I'm a big fan of the movie Tootsie, which had a hilarious scene
    >there). PLUS they do a bargain Vodka Tasting Happy Hour. Got a flight
    >of four vodkas for $18, which could be chosen from literally dozens on
    >the list. One was vile (a Swedish one made of golden potatoes), the
    >rest were sublime - like a berry one that would make a great after-
    >dinner drink. A fun way to see the place while still leaving room
    >(and budget) for food elsewhere. Plus the place is beautiful!
    >
    >VII. Zabar's
    >
    >This place is foodie heaven, fun just to walk around. Big and
    >bustling,crammed with a fantastic selection from breads to olives to
    >halvah. Has counters for smoked fish, cheese, deli,etc. Men hand-
    >scoop great-smelling coffee into bags for you (I bought a lot of this
    >so I could do gifts). Bought an amazing cream cheese and blueberry
    >strudel to take over the Central Park and nibble on, then saved the
    >rest to eat at the airport to save us from the meager seelctions
    >there. Got my first (and only, I suspect) celery tonic since I've
    >always wanted to try it.
    >
    >VIII. Miscellany
    >
    >Tried to grab little things here and there. Rugelach from little
    >coffee shops, "dirty water" hot dog since they're iconic, etc.
    >
    >I wish I could have had more time (hence more meals). Or that I was
    >bulimic so I could continue eating...
    >
    >I should turn 40 (urgh) more often!
    >
    >Kris


    Glad you enjoyed... NYC has the best fressing on the planet... so you
    made no mention of all the disgusting filthiness everywhere... did
    your accomodations at least supply a fresh sleeping cardboard or did
    it reek of Thunderbird, Muscatel, pee, and vomit?

  17. #17
    pavane Guest

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    "brooklyn1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]..
    | On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:50:16 -0700 (PDT), Kris <[email protected]>
    | wrote:
    |
    | ...........
    | Glad you enjoyed... NYC has the best fressing on the planet... so you
    | made no mention of all the disgusting filthiness everywhere... did
    | your accomodations at least supply a fresh sleeping cardboard or did
    | it reek of Thunderbird, Muscatel, pee, and vomit?

    No, she was in the City, not in your obviously disgusting segment of
    upper New York State. Kris loved her visit, what conceivable thrill
    do you get from dissing it? Does it make you feel powerful, proud,
    intelligent (nah...), knowledgeable, superior, wise??? You pathetic
    fool. Come on Om, tell us how smart Sheldumb's response was to
    this posting...

    pavane



  18. #18
    Lionel Hutz Guest

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    "pavane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:rlr0o.584385$[email protected]..
    >
    > "brooklyn1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news[email protected]..
    > | On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:50:16 -0700 (PDT), Kris <[email protected]>
    > | wrote:
    > |
    > | ...........
    > | Glad you enjoyed... NYC has the best fressing on the planet... so you
    > | made no mention of all the disgusting filthiness everywhere... did
    > | your accomodations at least supply a fresh sleeping cardboard or did
    > | it reek of Thunderbird, Muscatel, pee, and vomit?
    >
    > No, she was in the City, not in your obviously disgusting segment of
    > upper New York State. Kris loved her visit, what conceivable thrill
    > do you get from dissing it? Does it make you feel powerful, proud,
    > intelligent (nah...), knowledgeable, superior, wise??? You pathetic
    > fool. Come on Om, tell us how smart Sheldumb's response was to
    > this posting...
    >
    > pavane
    >
    >


    He was making a point to counter Pete C.'s narrow-minded point of view (from
    another thread she started a while ago: "What do you consider the best food
    in NYC?") that NYC is little more than a "festering cesspool of
    pseudo-humanity", chuck-a-block full of nothing but bile and practically
    devoid of any redeeming qualities. Kris' sparkling review of her time spend
    there, proves that there are two sides to every coin and Sheldon was
    re-enforcing that. I've spent a bit of time in NYC, mostly Queens County,
    and imo, "It's a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there."
    But, that's just me, millions of New Yorkers will certainly disagree! ;-)


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    Giusi Guest

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    "Lionel Hutz" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio

    I've spent a bit of time in NYC, mostly Queens County, > and imo, "It's a
    nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there." > But, that's just
    me, millions of New Yorkers will certainly disagree! ;-)

    People who spend time in Queens need to be commenting on Queens. It ain't
    Manhattan.



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    Lionel Hutz Guest

    Default Re: NYC Trip Report (long)



    "Giusi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >
    > "Lionel Hutz" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    >
    > I've spent a bit of time in NYC, mostly Queens County, > and imo, "It's a
    > nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there." > But, that's
    > just me, millions of New Yorkers will certainly disagree! ;-)
    >
    > People who spend time in Queens need to be commenting on Queens. It ain't
    > Manhattan.
    >


    So, following that train of logic, "People who spend time in Italy need to
    be commenting on Italy." Why are you being selective and combative with my
    statement, Judith? I made no disparaging comments against Manhattan nor
    Queens, nor the entire metropolitan area in whole. I merely stated that,
    "It's a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there." I'm not
    entitled to express my opinion?


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