Thread: Norovirus

We're leaving for a cruise somewhere around the ninth. Princess lines out
of San Diego. A week in Mexico. Oh, Boy! If it wasn't free, I'd just as
soon stay home and watch wrestling, and I hate wrestling.

Have heard of this norovirus. What tips can you tell me about it? Foods to
avoid?

And they say they have a "wine bar" with "nominal pricing". I hear they get
$10 to $15 for a real drink. Can't bring your own booze, either. Can't
have what you buy onshore until you debark. Can anyone tell me about their
experiences?

I'm really not looking forward to this. Limited time ashore, half the trip
listed at sea. But I've been stuck on a boat before, and know how to cope.
Spent about 1,500 nights on various sites working in the oilfield.

Weather is warming up here, and I could be fishing.

Steve

Steve B wrote:
> We're leaving for a cruise somewhere around the ninth. Princess lines out
> of San Diego. A week in Mexico. Oh, Boy! If it wasn't free, I'd just as
> soon stay home and watch wrestling, and I hate wrestling.
>
> Have heard of this norovirus. What tips can you tell me about it? Foods to
> avoid?
>

Never been on a cruise myself. You might try rec.travel.cruises if you
haven't already.

cl

Steve B wrote:

> We're leaving for a cruise somewhere around the ninth. Princess lines out
> of San Diego. A week in Mexico. Oh, Boy! If it wasn't free, I'd just as
> soon stay home and watch wrestling, and I hate wrestling.
>
> Have heard of this norovirus. What tips can you tell me about it? Foods to
> avoid?
>

Those virus outbreaks on cruise liners didn't spread person
to person via food. Think doorknobs.

I'm not a fan of the wash your hands every 5 minutes
solution. That's not the way to spend a vacation. Best
to not think about it.

The odds are in your favor. Go and enjoy.

--
Reg

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:54:42 -0800, "Steve B"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>We're leaving for a cruise somewhere around the ninth. Princess lines out
>of San Diego. A week in Mexico. Oh, Boy! If it wasn't free, I'd just as
>soon stay home and watch wrestling, and I hate wrestling.
>
>Have heard of this norovirus. What tips can you tell me about it? Foods to
>avoid?

Maybe you should name your cruise line.

>
>And they say they have a "wine bar" with "nominal pricing". I hear they get
>$10 to $15 for a real drink. Can't bring your own booze, either. Can't
>have what you buy onshore until you debark. Can anyone tell me about their
>experiences?

George and Becca are the experts with Janet in way the heck south
texas a close second, but I'll chime in anyway.

The cruise I was on charged highish normal prices for mixed drinks. I
got call martinis and rusty nails for $8.50, for instance. You could
also buy wine packages that were a bit less than the per bottle price.
We ordered a wine package for the first leg, but on the second leg of
the trip we just ordered by the bottle and it was fine.
>
>I'm really not looking forward to this. Limited time ashore, half the trip
>listed at sea. But I've been stuck on a boat before, and know how to cope.
>Spent about 1,500 nights on various sites working in the oilfield.
>
I'd be loving so much time at sea! Lucky you!

>Weather is warming up here, and I could be fishing.
>
I'll go in your place, that's ok... I'll make the sacrifice - if I'm
not on jury duty at the time.


--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:29:30 -0800, Serene Vannoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Still, I hear cruises are fun. Doesn't sound like your cup of tea,
>though. Take a long book.

they have pretty good libraries too.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

sf wrote:

> I'll go in your place, that's ok... I'll make the sacrifice - if I'm
> not on trial at the time.


So you are admitted to being a felon? I bet it's armed robbery with
depraved indifference for the lives of others and murder-2.

Serene Vannoy wrote:
> Steve B wrote:
>> We're leaving for a cruise somewhere around the ninth. Princess lines
>> out of San Diego. A week in Mexico. Oh, Boy! If it wasn't free, I'd
>> just as soon stay home and watch wrestling, and I hate wrestling.
>>
>> Have heard of this norovirus. What tips can you tell me about it?
>> Foods to avoid?
>
> God, a ton of my friends got it last year at Wiscon. I heard that
> several of them were wishing they were dead. And then my friend brought
> it home to me and I wished I were dead for about a day and a half. It
> was nasty.
>
> Still, I hear cruises are fun. Doesn't sound like your cup of tea,
> though. Take a long book.
>
> Serene

I dunno about tips, but my daughter and I had this a few years
ago. It was one nasty time, and even she (teenager) was wiped out
for a long time afterwards. She had it just when she was supposed
to be doing the statewide tests for high school kids. She missed
one day and dragged herself in just for the testing on another
day, and barely got out before calamity struck again.

--
Jean B.

Steve B wrote:
> We're leaving for a cruise somewhere around the ninth. Princess lines out
> of San Diego. A week in Mexico. Oh, Boy! If it wasn't free, I'd just as
> soon stay home and watch wrestling, and I hate wrestling.
>
> Have heard of this norovirus. What tips can you tell me about it? Foods to
> avoid?

You don't get Norovirus from food... you get it from person to person
contact or contact with a contaminated surface, then touching your face,
eyes, etc. There will be a lot of hand sanitizers on the ship (which
are of dubious value in preventing viruses). Keep your hands clean and
avoid touching places where a lot of people touch (like bathroom doors).

BTW - I haven't read of a norovirus outbreak on a cruise ship in a
number of months. It is usually a Spring-Summer phenom. Are you
genuinely worried or are you just griping that you "have to go on a cruise"?


> And they say they have a "wine bar" with "nominal pricing". I hear they get
> $10 to $15 for a real drink. Can't bring your own booze, either. Can't
> have what you buy onshore until you debark. Can anyone tell me about their
> experiences?

Drinks on a ship cost about what they cost in a hotel lounge. Figure $5
to $8 per drink.

> I'm really not looking forward to this. Limited time ashore, half the trip
> listed at sea. But I've been stuck on a boat before, and know how to cope.
> Spent about 1,500 nights on various sites working in the oilfield.

Well yes... working on an oil rig is exactly like being on a cruise
ship. <rolling my eyes>

The ship you are going to be on is the Sapphire Princess. In my
opinion, it is one of the nicer designed cruise ships out there and is
one of my favorites. So much so that while you are on the Sapphire, we
will be on her sister ship... the Caribbean Princess sailing out of San
Juan.

If you want a nice quiet place to sit by a pool without a crowd, go to
Dec 15 forward (Sun Deck) and grab some space by the lap pool. It is
heated, there are a couple of hot tubs and for the most part, people
seem to forget that it is there.

You have probably been assigned "Open Seating" for dinner meaning you
can go to either of two dining rooms at any time between 5:30 and 10 PM
for dinner. Both are located midships and for some reason, the one on
deck 5 isn't usually as crowded as the one on Deck 6. FWIW... if you go
to dinner before 6:30 or after 8:30, you seldom have to wait. Even
during the busy times, waiting isn't much of a problem.

Stay away from the steaks in the dining room... not so great. The fish
dishes are usually pretty good, the lobster can be hit or miss and the
prime rib can be VERY good. Another hint: Many of the dishes served in
the dining room are also served in the buffet on the Lido Deck. In
addition, up at the buffet on some nights they will have someone making
dessert crepes, Bananas Foster or Cherries Jubilee if you like that
kind of thing.

There is a steak house on board... the Sterling Steak House up on Deck
14, aft. It is an extra-expense kind of thing (about $20 pp if I
remember right). I like it, others don't. The steaks there are pretty
good.

I have been known to say that a good vacation is 50% Latitude and 50%
Attitude. Since you have already decided that you aren't going to have
a good time, you can look for things to bitch about or you can relax a
bit, go with the flow and not be a PITA to those you are traveling with.
No one likes going on vacation with someone who is determined to be a
Wet Blanket.

You got a free vacation. What you make of it (and what you make it for
others) is up to you.

I hope you have a good time...

George L

On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 07:28:39 -0600, George Leppla <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Steve B wrote:
>> We're leaving for a cruise somewhere around the ninth. Princess lines out
>> of San Diego. A week in Mexico. Oh, Boy! If it wasn't free, I'd just as
>> soon stay home and watch wrestling, and I hate wrestling.
>>
>> Have heard of this norovirus. What tips can you tell me about it? Foods to
>> avoid?
>
>You don't get Norovirus from food... you get it from person to person
>contact or contact with a contaminated surface, then touching your face,
>eyes, etc. There will be a lot of hand sanitizers on the ship (which
>are of dubious value in preventing viruses). Keep your hands clean and
>avoid touching places where a lot of people touch (like bathroom doors).
>
>BTW - I haven't read of a norovirus outbreak on a cruise ship in a
>number of months. It is usually a Spring-Summer phenom. Are you
>genuinely worried or are you just griping that you "have to go on a cruise"?
>
>
>> And they say they have a "wine bar" with "nominal pricing". I hear they get
>> $10 to $15 for a real drink. Can't bring your own booze, either. Can't
>> have what you buy onshore until you debark. Can anyone tell me about their
>> experiences?
>
>Drinks on a ship cost about what they cost in a hotel lounge. Figure $5
>to $8 per drink.
>
>> I'm really not looking forward to this. Limited time ashore, half the trip
>> listed at sea. But I've been stuck on a boat before, and know how to cope.
>> Spent about 1,500 nights on various sites working in the oilfield.
>
>Well yes... working on an oil rig is exactly like being on a cruise
>ship. <rolling my eyes>
>
>The ship you are going to be on is the Sapphire Princess. In my
>opinion, it is one of the nicer designed cruise ships out there and is
>one of my favorites. So much so that while you are on the Sapphire, we
>will be on her sister ship... the Caribbean Princess sailing out of San
>Juan.
>
>If you want a nice quiet place to sit by a pool without a crowd, go to
>Dec 15 forward (Sun Deck) and grab some space by the lap pool. It is
>heated, there are a couple of hot tubs and for the most part, people
>seem to forget that it is there.
>
>You have probably been assigned "Open Seating" for dinner meaning you
>can go to either of two dining rooms at any time between 5:30 and 10 PM
>for dinner. Both are located midships and for some reason, the one on
>deck 5 isn't usually as crowded as the one on Deck 6. FWIW... if you go
>to dinner before 6:30 or after 8:30, you seldom have to wait. Even
>during the busy times, waiting isn't much of a problem.
>
>Stay away from the steaks in the dining room... not so great. The fish
>dishes are usually pretty good, the lobster can be hit or miss and the
>prime rib can be VERY good. Another hint: Many of the dishes served in
>the dining room are also served in the buffet on the Lido Deck. In
>addition, up at the buffet on some nights they will have someone making
>dessert crepes, Bananas Foster or Cherries Jubilee if you like that
>kind of thing.
>
>There is a steak house on board... the Sterling Steak House up on Deck
>14, aft. It is an extra-expense kind of thing (about $20 pp if I
>remember right). I like it, others don't. The steaks there are pretty
>good.
>
>I have been known to say that a good vacation is 50% Latitude and 50%
>Attitude. Since you have already decided that you aren't going to have
>a good time, you can look for things to bitch about or you can relax a
>bit, go with the flow and not be a PITA to those you are traveling with.
> No one likes going on vacation with someone who is determined to be a
>Wet Blanket.
>
>You got a free vacation. What you make of it (and what you make it for
>others) is up to you.
>
>I hope you have a good time...
>
>George L
>

I wonder if much will change on the Princess ships now that Carnival bought
them ? It defiantly sounds like he's trying to talk himself out of going, I
say go, I've only been on two but had a blast.

George Leppla wrote:

> I have been known to say that a good vacation is 50% Latitude and 50%
> Attitude. Since you have already decided that you aren't going to
> have a good time, you can look for things to bitch about or you can relax
> a
> bit, go with the flow and not be a PITA to those you are traveling
> with. No one likes going on vacation with someone who is determined
> to be a Wet Blanket.
>
> You got a free vacation. What you make of it (and what you make it
> for others) is up to you.
>
> I hope you have a good time...
>
> George L

I think Steve has the same idea about cruises that I have. You spend a lot
of time on the boat and little time on shore where you'd really want to be.
I'd like to hear his thoughts when he returns.

My niece wanted us to go on a European cruise that was an allegedly good
deal. In the 8 days or so you were on the cruise, you spent only 40 hours
on land in a variety of ports. Dinner was on the ship every night. Seems
to me, if you are in Italy, France, and Spain, you'd want to eat locally and
enjoy the ambiance of the country you're visiting.

My impression (and I may be wrong) is that a lot of these ships pull into
port, you take a while to get off and have time to go to a few tourist traps
to buy trinkets and are herded back on the ship. Food is plentiful, but
mediocre, on a par the TGI Friday or Applebee's and the like unless you pay
extra for the better places.

For free, I'd go. Probably have a decent enough time. Not my first choice
for vacation though.

sf wrote:
>
> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:54:42 -0800, "Steve B"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >We're leaving for a cruise somewhere around the ninth. Princess lines out
> >of San Diego. A week in Mexico. Oh, Boy! If it wasn't free, I'd just as
> >soon stay home and watch wrestling, and I hate wrestling.
> >
> >Have heard of this norovirus. What tips can you tell me about it? Foods to
> >avoid?
>
> Maybe you should name your cruise line.
>

Perhaps you should re-read where he indicated "Princess lines out of San
Diego".

As for Norovirus, as far as I know it has nothing to do with food, or
cruise ships really. Apparently pretty common stuff, but since it is
transmitted easily, in the close quarters of a cruise ship if it does
show up pretty much everyone will get it. Much like plane crashes
though, when it happens you hear about it, but the thousands of other
flights / cruise with no issues get no attention.

ffu wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 07:28:39 -0600, George Leppla <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Steve B wrote:
>>> We're leaving for a cruise somewhere around the ninth. Princess lines out
>>> of San Diego. A week in Mexico. Oh, Boy! If it wasn't free, I'd just as
>>> soon stay home and watch wrestling, and I hate wrestling.
>>>
>>> Have heard of this norovirus. What tips can you tell me about it? Foods to
>>> avoid?
>> You don't get Norovirus from food... you get it from person to person
>> contact or contact with a contaminated surface, then touching your face,
>> eyes, etc. There will be a lot of hand sanitizers on the ship (which
>> are of dubious value in preventing viruses). Keep your hands clean and
>> avoid touching places where a lot of people touch (like bathroom doors).
>>
>> BTW - I haven't read of a norovirus outbreak on a cruise ship in a
>> number of months. It is usually a Spring-Summer phenom. Are you
>> genuinely worried or are you just griping that you "have to go on a cruise"?
>>
>>
>>> And they say they have a "wine bar" with "nominal pricing". I hear they get
>>> $10 to $15 for a real drink. Can't bring your own booze, either. Can't
>>> have what you buy onshore until you debark. Can anyone tell me about their
>>> experiences?
>> Drinks on a ship cost about what they cost in a hotel lounge. Figure $5
>> to $8 per drink.
>>
>>> I'm really not looking forward to this. Limited time ashore, half the trip
>>> listed at sea. But I've been stuck on a boat before, and know how to cope.
>>> Spent about 1,500 nights on various sites working in the oilfield.
>> Well yes... working on an oil rig is exactly like being on a cruise
>> ship. <rolling my eyes>
>>
>> The ship you are going to be on is the Sapphire Princess. In my
>> opinion, it is one of the nicer designed cruise ships out there and is
>> one of my favorites. So much so that while you are on the Sapphire, we
>> will be on her sister ship... the Caribbean Princess sailing out of San
>> Juan.
>>
>> If you want a nice quiet place to sit by a pool without a crowd, go to
>> Dec 15 forward (Sun Deck) and grab some space by the lap pool. It is
>> heated, there are a couple of hot tubs and for the most part, people
>> seem to forget that it is there.
>>
>> You have probably been assigned "Open Seating" for dinner meaning you
>> can go to either of two dining rooms at any time between 5:30 and 10 PM
>> for dinner. Both are located midships and for some reason, the one on
>> deck 5 isn't usually as crowded as the one on Deck 6. FWIW... if you go
>> to dinner before 6:30 or after 8:30, you seldom have to wait. Even
>> during the busy times, waiting isn't much of a problem.
>>
>> Stay away from the steaks in the dining room... not so great. The fish
>> dishes are usually pretty good, the lobster can be hit or miss and the
>> prime rib can be VERY good. Another hint: Many of the dishes served in
>> the dining room are also served in the buffet on the Lido Deck. In
>> addition, up at the buffet on some nights they will have someone making
>> dessert crepes, Bananas Foster or Cherries Jubilee if you like that
>> kind of thing.
>>
>> There is a steak house on board... the Sterling Steak House up on Deck
>> 14, aft. It is an extra-expense kind of thing (about $20 pp if I
>> remember right). I like it, others don't. The steaks there are pretty
>> good.
>>
>> I have been known to say that a good vacation is 50% Latitude and 50%
>> Attitude. Since you have already decided that you aren't going to have
>> a good time, you can look for things to bitch about or you can relax a
>> bit, go with the flow and not be a PITA to those you are traveling with.
>> No one likes going on vacation with someone who is determined to be a
>> Wet Blanket.
>>
>> You got a free vacation. What you make of it (and what you make it for
>> others) is up to you.
>>
>> I hope you have a good time...
>>
>> George L
>>
>
> I wonder if much will change on the Princess ships now that Carnival bought
> them ? It defiantly sounds like he's trying to talk himself out of going, I
> say go, I've only been on two but had a blast.

Carnival Corp. bought Princess over 6 years ago.... in 2003. Carnival
Corp also owns Carnival Cruise Line, Holland America, Cunard, Costa,
Seabourne and some others. Their corporate policy is to let each
company run itself separately and so far, they have done that. They all
have separate offices, res centers and management. Transfers of
personnel between cruise lines is minimal.

For a mass market line, Princess does a pretty good job. They have some
nice ships, service and entertainment is above average and while the
food is not gourmet, it is very good. You can't feed 2000 to 5000+
people within 4 hours and deliver a gourmet dining experience but the
cruise lines do a very good job overall.

The quality of a Princess cruise has stayed pretty much the same since
2003. There have been changes made on all cruise lines because of the
bad economy, though. Everyone is cutting back and when you are seeing 7
night cruises selling for less than $399 a person, stands to reason that
some cost cutting measures are going to happen.

Even though the lines are run separately, there is a fair amount of
cross-over of ideas, etc between them. Carnival Cruise Line's food
service has improved GREATLY since Carnival Corp bought HAL and Princess.

George L

Steve B wrote:
> Have heard of this norovirus. What tips can you tell me about it? Foods to avoid?
>
snip...
> I'm really not looking forward to this. Limited time ashore, half the trip listed at sea. But I've been stuck on a boat before, and know how to cope. Spent about 1,500 nights on various sites working in the oilfield.

Wash your hands often and do not touch your eyes, nose or mouth. Avoid
touching handrails, doorknobs, etc. When you use the elevator, press
the buttons with your knuckle, not your fingertips. I have been on
about 60 cruises and I have never caught the norovirus, but who knows,
it could happen.


Did you fill out all the info on the Princess website?


You will get a daily Princess Patter in your cabin. Make sure you read
this, it will tell you what is happening on the ship and where it is
located. You may not feel like singing karaoke, but go, it can be a
hoot to watch, the trivia games are also fun. They will have enough
entertainment on the ship, that you will not get bored. On some cruises,
I never leave the ship.


Relax and have a ball. :-)


Becca

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> George Leppla wrote:
>
>> I have been known to say that a good vacation is 50% Latitude and 50%
>> Attitude. Since you have already decided that you aren't going to
>> have a good time, you can look for things to bitch about or you can relax
>> a
>> bit, go with the flow and not be a PITA to those you are traveling
>> with. No one likes going on vacation with someone who is determined
>> to be a Wet Blanket.
>>
>> You got a free vacation. What you make of it (and what you make it
>> for others) is up to you.
>>
>> I hope you have a good time...
>>
>> George L
>
> I think Steve has the same idea about cruises that I have. You spend a lot
> of time on the boat and little time on shore where you'd really want to be.
> I'd like to hear his thoughts when he returns.
>
> My niece wanted us to go on a European cruise that was an allegedly good
> deal. In the 8 days or so you were on the cruise, you spent only 40 hours
> on land in a variety of ports. Dinner was on the ship every night. Seems
> to me, if you are in Italy, France, and Spain, you'd want to eat locally and
> enjoy the ambiance of the country you're visiting.
>
> My impression (and I may be wrong) is that a lot of these ships pull into
> port, you take a while to get off and have time to go to a few tourist traps
> to buy trinkets and are herded back on the ship. Food is plentiful, but
> mediocre, on a par the TGI Friday or Applebee's and the like unless you pay
> extra for the better places.
>
> For free, I'd go. Probably have a decent enough time. Not my first choice
> for vacation though.

Cruises certainly aren't for everyone. If someone is set on doing
intensive sight-seeing, then a cruise ship is not for you. There are
river barge cruises in Europe that tend to combine some aspects of
cruising with intensive land tours. Look at
http://www.vikingrivercruises.com/ Becca and I hope to do one of these
sometime.

I know of people who takee a cruise to an area to get exposed to a
number of places... kind of like a scouting mission.... then they go
back and stay to really get a more in depth visit.

I would rate cruise line food as being much better than TGIF's or any
chain. Not gourmet by any means, but certainly not "mall" food.

Some people like cruising, some like camping, some like going to an
All-Inclusive. It is all good.

George L

On Jan 1, 11:54*pm, "Steve B" <deserttra...@fishmail.net> wrote:
> We're leaving for a cruise somewhere around the ninth. *Princess lines out
> of San Diego. *A week in Mexico. *Oh, Boy! *If it wasn't free, I'd just as
> soon stay home and watch wrestling, and I hate wrestling.

My nephew went to Cancun a few years ago. When he got back I
suggested to him that if anyone were to ask him, "How was Cancun?,
then he should tell them that it was OK, but that it ain't nearly as
tasty as fresh coon.
>
> Have heard of this norovirus. *What tips can you tell me about it? *Foods to
> avoid?
>
> And they say they have a "wine bar" with "nominal pricing". *I hear they get
> $10 to $15 for a real drink. *Can't bring your own booze, either. *Can't
> have what you buy onshore until you debark. *Can anyone tell me about their
> experiences?
>
Even in your room? Gee, on Amtrak you have to buy their high priced
drinks, EXCEPT if you have accommodations, then you can bring your
own, as long as you don't take it out of your room.
>
> Steve

--Bryan

On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 07:28:39 -0600, George Leppla
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Steve B wrote:
>> We're leaving for a cruise somewhere around the ninth. Princess lines out
>> of San Diego. A week in Mexico. Oh, Boy! If it wasn't free, I'd just as
>> soon stay home and watch wrestling, and I hate wrestling.
>>
<snip>
>
>If you want a nice quiet place to sit by a pool without a crowd, go to
>Dec 15 forward (Sun Deck) and grab some space by the lap pool. It is
>heated, there are a couple of hot tubs and for the most part, people
>seem to forget that it is there.

I found the indoor and outdoor pools were used according to the
weather. When it was warm, everyone was outside and the inside pool
was the place to be for quiet. When it cooled down everyone went
indoors and you had to finds somewhere else... which was hard because
the bar that had been a zen/"meditation" spot until mid afternoon
wasn't anymore and the library was always crowded with people playing
games and talking.
>
>You have probably been assigned "Open Seating" for dinner meaning you
>can go to either of two dining rooms at any time between 5:30 and 10 PM
>for dinner. Both are located midships and for some reason, the one on
>deck 5 isn't usually as crowded as the one on Deck 6. FWIW... if you go
>to dinner before 6:30 or after 8:30, you seldom have to wait. Even
>during the busy times, waiting isn't much of a problem.
>
<snip>
>
>You got a free vacation. What you make of it (and what you make it for
>others) is up to you.
>
>I hope you have a good time...
>
>George L
>
His trip sounds great (and you made it sound even better) to me,
George! Sun Princess huh? I guess this is not a Mexican Riviera
cruise if they're at sea so much.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:01:51 -0600, ffu <[email protected]> wrote:

>I wonder if much will change on the Princess ships now that Carnival bought
>them ?

Carnival? Heaven help us! Hopefully Carnival will consider Princess
as its upscale line and treat it as such.

>It defiantly sounds like he's trying to talk himself out of going, I
>say go, I've only been on two but had a blast.

I just went on one a couple of months ago and would like to go on
another soon, but I think our next trip will be land based.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:54:42 -0800, "Steve B"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>We're leaving for a cruise somewhere around the ninth. Princess lines out
>of San Diego. A week in Mexico. Oh, Boy! If it wasn't free, I'd just as
>soon stay home and watch wrestling, and I hate wrestling.
>
>Have heard of this norovirus. What tips can you tell me about it? Foods to
>avoid?
>
>And they say they have a "wine bar" with "nominal pricing". I hear they get
>$10 to $15 for a real drink. Can't bring your own booze, either. Can't
>have what you buy onshore until you debark. Can anyone tell me about their
>experiences?
>
>I'm really not looking forward to this. Limited time ashore, half the trip
>listed at sea. But I've been stuck on a boat before, and know how to cope.
>Spent about 1,500 nights on various sites working in the oilfield.
>
>Weather is warming up here, and I could be fishing.
>
>Steve
>

If you hate the idea of the cruise why did you not refuse the offer.
Did someone force you to go? Someone else might have loved to go in
your place.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:18:17 -0600, "Pete C." <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Perhaps you should re-read where he indicated "Princess lines out of San
>Diego".

I caught that after I hit send. Do you feel better now that you're
all superior?

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.