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  1. #1
    Peter Guest

    Default Non existant bay leaf

    I know I'm not the only one, after asking family lately... but I can't
    taste it.

    I still use them when guests are going to eat, but they do nothing for me.
    I have tried making dishes with and without, side by side. I've put fresh
    leaves in my mouth just for a taste. I've tried putting them in hot water to
    make a bay leaf tea as a test.

    Nothing.

    Perhaps it is a genetic thing, like those with asparagus pee smell.



  2. #2
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: Non existant bay leaf

    Peter wrote:
    > I know I'm not the only one, after asking family lately... but I can't
    > taste it.
    >
    > I still use them when guests are going to eat, but they do nothing for me.
    > I have tried making dishes with and without, side by side. I've put fresh
    > leaves in my mouth just for a taste. I've tried putting them in hot water to
    > make a bay leaf tea as a test.
    >
    > Nothing.
    >
    > Perhaps it is a genetic thing, like those with asparagus pee smell.
    >
    >

    Or perhaps you have gotten hold of some old bay leaves. I have a bay
    laurel in my backyard and dehydrate my own leaves. They will lose their
    scent and flavor if kept overlong in a container that allows air in.
    Best to buy the smallest container you think you can use in a few months
    and then dump them and get another.

    I have found that the large, airtight, plastic containers of bay leaves
    at Kroger stores seems to be about the best store bought I've run into.
    They tend to keep their taste and aroma longer.

  3. #3
    Peter Guest

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    "George Shirley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:gtqel.779$[email protected]..
    > Peter wrote:
    >> I know I'm not the only one, after asking family lately... but I can't
    >> taste it.
    >>
    >> I still use them when guests are going to eat, but they do nothing for
    >> me. I have tried making dishes with and without, side by side. I've put
    >> fresh leaves in my mouth just for a taste. I've tried putting them in hot
    >> water to make a bay leaf tea as a test.
    >>
    >> Nothing.
    >>
    >> Perhaps it is a genetic thing, like those with asparagus pee smell.

    > Or perhaps you have gotten hold of some old bay leaves. I have a bay
    > laurel in my backyard and dehydrate my own leaves. They will lose their
    > scent and flavor if kept overlong in a container that allows air in. Best
    > to buy the smallest container you think you can use in a few months and
    > then dump them and get another.
    >
    > I have found that the large, airtight, plastic containers of bay leaves at
    > Kroger stores seems to be about the best store bought I've run into. They
    > tend to keep their taste and aroma longer.



    I don't think that is it. I've used a variety of bay leafs, dried and fresh
    over many years. I just don't taste anything other than an extremely mild
    plant flavour, which I assume isn't the flavour tasted by others... I get
    stronger flavours munching on various wild grassy plants.



  4. #4
    cybercat Guest

    Default Re: Non existant bay leaf


    "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote

    >... I get stronger flavours munching on various wild grassy plants.
    >

    Moo?



  5. #5
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Non existant bay leaf

    On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:54:42 -0500, "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >I don't think that is it. I've used a variety of bay leafs, dried and fresh
    >over many years. I just don't taste anything other than an extremely mild
    >plant flavour, which I assume isn't the flavour tasted by others... I get
    >stronger flavours munching on various wild grassy plants.


    I thought I was the only one who couldn't taste bay. I know only one
    dish for sure that doesn't taste quite right if the bay leaf isn't
    there. I don't feel that way about any other recipe.


    --
    I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
    interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

    Mae West

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    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    Default Re: Non existant bay leaf


    "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >
    > I thought I was the only one who couldn't taste bay. I know only one
    > dish for sure that doesn't taste quite right if the bay leaf isn't
    > there. I don't feel that way about any other recipe.
    >


    No one can taste them, but we have to keep the bay leaf industry profitable.
    If we don't the government will have to increase subsidies to bail them out.
    I've never tasted any difference in a meal with or without them but it is
    cheaper to buy a few every year instead of giving bay leaf farmers $70
    billion. .



  7. #7
    George Shirley Guest

    Default Re: Non existant bay leaf

    Ed Pawlowski wrote:
    > "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> I thought I was the only one who couldn't taste bay. I know only one
    >> dish for sure that doesn't taste quite right if the bay leaf isn't
    >> there. I don't feel that way about any other recipe.
    >>

    >
    > No one can taste them, but we have to keep the bay leaf industry profitable.
    > If we don't the government will have to increase subsidies to bail them out.
    > I've never tasted any difference in a meal with or without them but it is
    > cheaper to buy a few every year instead of giving bay leaf farmers $70
    > billion. .
    >
    >

    The whole bay leaf industry is two Cajuns in Gran Mamou, LA picking
    leaves off wild trees in the motte yeah. One named Boudreau, the other
    is named Thibodeaux. They would like a subsidy them.

  8. #8
    Beartooth Guest

    Default Re: Non existant bay leaf

    On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:50:12 -0500, Peter wrote:

    > I know I'm not the only one, after asking family lately... but I can't
    > taste it.

    [...]

    Can you smell it? Try this. When you finish your next little
    capers bottle, run it through the dishwasher. When it's clean and dry,
    put in two to four bay leaves, depending on size. Fill up with Everclear
    (the brand we get) or other brand of pure grain alcohol. Let set for two
    or three months, till the alcohol gets good and green.

    Now rub a drop or two on the back of your hand, blow till it
    dries, and sniff.

    If this works, put the rest of the extract into a squirt bottle
    (such as bitters come in; if you use an old Tobasco bottle, you may have
    to fill it with a hypodermic) or an atomizer. This is good for adding bay
    leaf flavor to things that cook quickly, giving the bay leaf no time to
    steep -- such as scrambled eggs ...

    --
    Beartooth Implacable, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
    What do they know of country, who only country know?


  9. #9
    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: Non existant bay leaf

    In article <[email protected]>,
    sf <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:54:42 -0500, "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >I don't think that is it. I've used a variety of bay leafs, dried and fresh
    > >over many years. I just don't taste anything other than an extremely mild
    > >plant flavour, which I assume isn't the flavour tasted by others... I get
    > >stronger flavours munching on various wild grassy plants.

    >
    > I thought I was the only one who couldn't taste bay. I know only one
    > dish for sure that doesn't taste quite right if the bay leaf isn't
    > there. I don't feel that way about any other recipe.


    That makes 3 so far. <g>
    --
    Peace! Om

    "Any ship can be a minesweeper. Once." -- Anonymous

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    [email protected] Guest

    Default Re: Non existant bay leaf

    On Jan 24, 3:22*pm, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > In article <jhnmn41l6fslbdlt12u3vrobmmes380...@4ax.com>,
    >
    > *sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
    > > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:54:42 -0500, "Peter" <n...@email.com> wrote:

    >
    > > >I don't think that is it. *I've used a variety of bay leafs, dried and fresh
    > > >over many years. *I just don't taste anything other than an extremely mild
    > > >plant flavour, which I assume isn't the flavour tasted by others... I get
    > > >stronger flavours munching on various wild grassy plants.

    >
    > > I thought I was the only one who couldn't taste bay. *I know only one
    > > dish for sure that doesn't taste quite right if the bay leaf isn't
    > > there. *I don't feel that way about any other recipe.

    >
    > That makes 3 so far. <g>
    > --
    > Peace! Om


    I definitely taste bay. It's absolutely essential in most of the bean/
    legume dishes I make. You guys really can't taste it? This isn't a
    joke?

    Carol, who enjoys cilantro - craves it, actually

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    Peter Guest

    Default Re: Non existant bay leaf


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    On Jan 24, 3:22 pm, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > In article <jhnmn41l6fslbdlt12u3vrobmmes380...@4ax.com>,
    >
    > sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
    > > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:54:42 -0500, "Peter" <n...@email.com> wrote:

    >
    > > >I don't think that is it. I've used a variety of bay leafs, dried and
    > > >fresh
    > > >over many years. I just don't taste anything other than an extremely
    > > >mild
    > > >plant flavour, which I assume isn't the flavour tasted by others... I
    > > >get
    > > >stronger flavours munching on various wild grassy plants.

    >
    > > I thought I was the only one who couldn't taste bay. I know only one
    > > dish for sure that doesn't taste quite right if the bay leaf isn't
    > > there. I don't feel that way about any other recipe.

    >
    > That makes 3 so far. <g>
    > --
    > Peace! Om


    I definitely taste bay. It's absolutely essential in most of the bean/
    legume dishes I make. You guys really can't taste it? This isn't a
    joke?

    -----

    LOL, no not a joke. I honestly find it adds nothing. I assume others can,
    given that it is so widely used.

    Hi, my name is Peter, and I can't taste bay leaf.



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    Peter Guest

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    "cybercat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:gldnvi$o59$[email protected]..
    >
    > "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote
    >
    >>... I get stronger flavours munching on various wild grassy plants.
    >>

    > Moo?



    Hah, yes, a little. Being a little bit of an outdoors/hiker type person I
    have tasted and eaten many wild edibles, some of which are pretty
    bland...just like bay leaf, to me.



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    PeterLucas Guest

    Default Re: Non existant bay leaf

    On Jan 25, 11:09*am, "Peter" <n...@email.com> wrote:
    > <carol.56...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:[email protected]...
    > On Jan 24, 3:22 pm, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > In article <jhnmn41l6fslbdlt12u3vrobmmes380...@4ax.com>,

    >
    > > sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
    > > > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:54:42 -0500, "Peter" <n...@email.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > >I don't think that is it. I've used a variety of bay leafs, dried and
    > > > >fresh
    > > > >over many years. I just don't taste anything other than an extremely
    > > > >mild
    > > > >plant flavour, which I assume isn't the flavour tasted by others... I
    > > > >get
    > > > >stronger flavours munching on various wild grassy plants.

    >
    > > > I thought I was the only one who couldn't taste bay. I know only one
    > > > dish for sure that doesn't taste quite right if the bay leaf isn't
    > > > there. I don't feel that way about any other recipe.

    >
    > > That makes 3 so far. <g>
    > > --
    > > Peace! Om

    >
    > I definitely taste bay. *It's absolutely essential in most of the bean/
    > legume dishes I make. *You guys really can't taste it? *This isn't a
    > joke?
    >
    > -----
    >
    > LOL, no not a joke. *I honestly find it adds nothing. *I assume others can,
    > given that it is so widely used.
    >
    > Hi, my name is Peter, and I can't taste bay leaf.- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    No offence Peter but I would like you to change your name.
    You see, I'm the only Peter in here.

    --
    Peter Lucas
    Brisbane
    Australia


    "And where is the Prince who can afford to so cover his country with
    troops for its defense, as that ten thousand men descending from the
    clouds, might not in many places do an infinite deal of mischief,
    before
    a force could be brought together to repel them?"



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    cybercat Guest

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    "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >
    > "cybercat" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:gldnvi$o59$[email protected]..
    >>
    >> "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote
    >>
    >>>... I get stronger flavours munching on various wild grassy plants.
    >>>

    >> Moo?

    >
    >
    > Hah, yes, a little. Being a little bit of an outdoors/hiker type person I
    > have tasted and eaten many wild edibles, some of which are pretty
    > bland...just like bay leaf, to me.
    >

    Just checking.



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    Peter Guest

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    "PeterLucas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:9cd3353b-7b84-4041-9385-

    No offence Peter but I would like you to change your name.
    You see, I'm the only Peter in here.

    ---

    You see, I'm so good that I only need a first name. I'm like the Obama of
    Peters. I allow you the use of 'Peter' so long as it is accompanied by a
    last name.



  16. #16
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Non existant bay leaf

    On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:01:07 -0800 (PST), [email protected] wrote:

    >I definitely taste bay. It's absolutely essential in most of the bean/
    >legume dishes I make. You guys really can't taste it? This isn't a
    >joke?


    Nope, no joke. My SIL always cautions against using too much or the
    dish will taste like medicine. For me, it's "What bay?"
    >
    >Carol, who enjoys cilantro - craves it, actually


    I love cilantro too. It's a strong flavor that I took in small doses
    at first, but like an illegal drug.... I need more and more.



    --
    I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
    interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.

    Mae West

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    Peter Guest

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    "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:01:07 -0800 (PST), [email protected] wrote:
    >>
    >>Carol, who enjoys cilantro - craves it, actually

    >
    > I love cilantro too. It's a strong flavor that I took in small doses
    > at first, but like an illegal drug.... I need more and more.
    >


    Yes, I can taste an use cilantro too. I didn't eat any when I was a kid so
    I thought it tasted alot like soap when I first started using it, but it
    grew on me and now I *always* have fresh cilantro in the fridge and use it
    atleast every other day if not more often.



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    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: Non existant bay leaf

    In article
    <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] wrote:

    > On Jan 24, 3:22*pm, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > > In article <jhnmn41l6fslbdlt12u3vrobmmes380...@4ax.com>,
    > >
    > > *sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
    > > > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:54:42 -0500, "Peter" <n...@email.com> wrote:

    > >
    > > > >I don't think that is it. *I've used a variety of bay leafs, dried and
    > > > >fresh
    > > > >over many years. *I just don't taste anything other than an extremely
    > > > >mild
    > > > >plant flavour, which I assume isn't the flavour tasted by others... I
    > > > >get
    > > > >stronger flavours munching on various wild grassy plants.

    > >
    > > > I thought I was the only one who couldn't taste bay. *I know only one
    > > > dish for sure that doesn't taste quite right if the bay leaf isn't
    > > > there. *I don't feel that way about any other recipe.

    > >
    > > That makes 3 so far. <g>
    > > --
    > > Peace! Om

    >
    > I definitely taste bay. It's absolutely essential in most of the bean/
    > legume dishes I make. You guys really can't taste it? This isn't a
    > joke?
    >
    > Carol, who enjoys cilantro - craves it, actually


    No, it's no joke, but I also don't care for cilantro. <g>
    Nor Arugula.
    --
    Peace! Om

    "Any ship can be a minesweeper. Once." -- Anonymous

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    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: Non existant bay leaf

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "PeterLucas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:9cd3353b-7b84-4041-9385-
    >
    > No offence Peter but I would like you to change your name.
    > You see, I'm the only Peter in here.
    >
    > ---
    >
    > You see, I'm so good that I only need a first name. I'm like the Obama of
    > Peters. I allow you the use of 'Peter' so long as it is accompanied by a
    > last name.


    You are responding to a PeterLucas forger that is stalking the real one.
    :-(
    --
    Peace! Om

    "Any ship can be a minesweeper. Once." -- Anonymous

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    [email protected] Guest

    Default Re: Non existant bay leaf

    On Jan 24, 7:50*pm, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > In article
    > <e1c0467a-5fa7-464f-9e3a-f0b7fdbbc...@p36g2000prp.googlegroups.com>,
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > *carol.56...@gmail.com wrote:
    > > On Jan 24, 3:22 pm, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > > > In article <jhnmn41l6fslbdlt12u3vrobmmes380...@4ax.com>,

    >
    > > > sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
    > > > > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:54:42 -0500, "Peter" <n...@email.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > > >I don't think that is it. I've used a variety of bay leafs, dried and
    > > > > >fresh
    > > > > >over many years. I just don't taste anything other than an extremely
    > > > > >mild
    > > > > >plant flavour, which I assume isn't the flavour tasted by others.... I
    > > > > >get
    > > > > >stronger flavours munching on various wild grassy plants.

    >
    > > > > I thought I was the only one who couldn't taste bay. I know only one
    > > > > dish for sure that doesn't taste quite right if the bay leaf isn't
    > > > > there. I don't feel that way about any other recipe.

    >
    > > > That makes 3 so far. <g>
    > > > --
    > > > Peace! Om

    >
    > > I definitely taste bay. *It's absolutely essential in most of the bean/
    > > legume dishes I make. *You guys really can't taste it? *This isn't a
    > > joke?

    >
    > > Carol, who enjoys cilantro - craves it, actually

    >
    > No, it's no joke, but I also don't care for cilantro. <g>
    > Nor Arugula.
    > --
    > Peace! Om
    >
    > "Any ship can be a minesweeper. Once." -- Anonymous- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    I still maintain that arugula is the sound the horns on really old
    cars made.

    ObAuto: Ford

    Carol

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