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  1. #1
    Cheryl Guest

    Default New stove - dangit

    I am getting my new range tomorrow and was cleaning out the storage
    drawer and removing all the stuff I keep on top of the
    backboard/splashboard shelf - which my new range will not have because
    it's curved - and pulled it out a bit to see if I could easily move it.
    Well it looks like I need an electrician. The current power looks
    hardwired. There is a thick wire coming out of the wall (no receptacle)
    and the new one comes with some new code power cord that's been in
    effect since 2000. The free installation that comes from the vendor is
    just to put it in place and plug it in. ****. Oh well.

  2. #2
    spamtrap1888 Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit

    On Oct 14, 7:18*pm, Cheryl <jlhsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > I am getting my new range tomorrow and was cleaning out the storage
    > drawer and removing all the stuff I keep on top of the
    > backboard/splashboard shelf - which my new range will not have because
    > it's curved - and pulled it out a bit to see if I could easily move it.
    > * Well it looks like I need an electrician. *The current power looks
    > hardwired. *There is a thick wire coming out of the wall (no receptacle)
    > and the new one comes with some new code power cord that's been in
    > effect since 2000. *The free installation that comes from the vendor is
    > just to put it in place and plug it in. *****. *Oh well.



  3. #3
    spamtrap1888 Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit

    On Oct 14, 7:18*pm, Cheryl <jlhsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > I am getting my new range tomorrow and was cleaning out the storage
    > drawer and removing all the stuff I keep on top of the
    > backboard/splashboard shelf - which my new range will not have because
    > it's curved - and pulled it out a bit to see if I could easily move it.
    > * Well it looks like I need an electrician. *The current power looks
    > hardwired. *There is a thick wire coming out of the wall (no receptacle)
    > and the new one comes with some new code power cord that's been in
    > effect since 2000. *The free installation that comes from the vendor is
    > just to put it in place and plug it in. *****. *Oh well.


    Go get yourself some smelling salts.

    Googling around it looks like the new code requires a four prong plug
    and 6 ga. wire. Your electrician may have to pull new cable as well as
    installing a socket. Hopefully you have sufficient amperage coming
    into the house to run everything.

    I also see nowadays microwaves and dishwashers need their own 15 amp
    circuits. Oh well.

  4. #4
    Polly Esther Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit


    "Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4e98ed7c$0$1304$[email protected]..
    >I am getting my new range tomorrow and was cleaning out the storage drawer
    >and removing all the stuff I keep on top of the backboard/splashboard
    >shelf - which my new range will not have because it's curved - and pulled
    >it out a bit to see if I could easily move it. Well it looks like I need an
    >electrician. The current power looks hardwired. There is a thick wire
    >coming out of the wall (no receptacle) and the new one comes with some new
    >code power cord that's been in effect since 2000. The free installation
    >that comes from the vendor is just to put it in place and plug it in.
    >****. Oh well.


    Well. Yeah. Worse than that. Get an electrician that has a brain in his
    head. The outlet for our stove stuck so far out from the wall that, of
    course, the stove would not/could not be pushed back flat to the wall once
    the stove was plugged in.
    The solution was to put the outlet in the wall at the back of the
    cabinet adjacent to the stove. The bottom drawer in that cabinet houses big
    stock pots and there was no problem having the outlet in it. It may be that
    the outlet was in the 'kick-space' and didn't affect the cabinet at all.
    The 'free installation guy' didn't see a problem with the stove set out
    from the wall about 4" but I found it quite offensive. Translation: think
    hissy fit! Polly



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    Paul M. Cook Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit


    "Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4e98ed7c$0$1304$[email protected]..
    >I am getting my new range tomorrow and was cleaning out the storage drawer
    >and removing all the stuff I keep on top of the backboard/splashboard
    >shelf - which my new range will not have because it's curved - and pulled
    >it out a bit to see if I could easily move it. Well it looks like I need an
    >electrician. The current power looks hardwired. There is a thick wire
    >coming out of the wall (no receptacle) and the new one comes with some new
    >code power cord that's been in effect since 2000. The free installation
    >that comes from the vendor is just to put it in place and plug it in.
    >****. Oh well.


    It may not be so bad. If the stove comes with a 4 connector plug, then you
    merely need a qualified person to replace it with a three prong plug. Older
    structures do not need to meet the newer standard. However if the stove
    comes with 4 unterminated wires, well that's a whole new ball game. But you
    should be able to get by without having to have a whole new set of wires
    run. But yeah, time to call sparky.

    Paul



  6. #6
    Cheryl Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit

    On 10/14/2011 11:08 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:

    > It may not be so bad. If the stove comes with a 4 connector plug, then you
    > merely need a qualified person to replace it with a three prong plug. Older
    > structures do not need to meet the newer standard. However if the stove
    > comes with 4 unterminated wires, well that's a whole new ball game. But you
    > should be able to get by without having to have a whole new set of wires
    > run. But yeah, time to call sparky.


    One of my brother's best friends is an electrician and I called him for
    his phone number. He's been out of work so I know he'll do it for me.
    He's been an electrician for ages. The only thing is that I might not
    have a working stove for a few days if he can't do it tomorrow.


  7. #7
    Cheryl Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit

    On 10/14/2011 10:37 PM, Polly Esther wrote:

    > Well. Yeah. Worse than that. Get an electrician that has a brain in
    > his head. The outlet for our stove stuck so far out from the wall that,
    > of course, the stove would not/could not be pushed back flat to the wall
    > once the stove was plugged in.
    > The solution was to put the outlet in the wall at the back of the
    > cabinet adjacent to the stove. The bottom drawer in that cabinet houses
    > big stock pots and there was no problem having the outlet in it. It may
    > be that the outlet was in the 'kick-space' and didn't affect the cabinet
    > at all.
    > The 'free installation guy' didn't see a problem with the stove set
    > out from the wall about 4" but I found it quite offensive. Translation:
    > think hissy fit!


    Good tip! Thanks!


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    Cheryl Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit

    On 10/14/2011 10:33 PM, spamtrap1888 wrote:
    > Go get yourself some smelling salts.
    >
    > Googling around it looks like the new code requires a four prong plug
    > and 6 ga. wire.


    Yes, four prong. Similar to a dryer receptacle but shaped a little
    differently.

    Your electrician may have to pull new cable as well as
    > installing a socket. Hopefully you have sufficient amperage coming
    > into the house to run everything.
    >

    That shouldn't be a problem. All other new appliances I've bought
    haven't needed any additional amperage, including a much larger heat
    pump than I used to have. New washer and dryer were fine as is.

    > I also see nowadays microwaves and dishwashers need their own 15 amp
    > circuits. Oh well.


    It's never easy, is it.

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    Pico Rico Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit


    "Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4e98fb49$0$14433$[email protected]..
    > On 10/14/2011 11:08 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
    >
    >> It may not be so bad. If the stove comes with a 4 connector plug, then
    >> you
    >> merely need a qualified person to replace it with a three prong plug.
    >> Older
    >> structures do not need to meet the newer standard. However if the stove
    >> comes with 4 unterminated wires, well that's a whole new ball game. But
    >> you
    >> should be able to get by without having to have a whole new set of wires
    >> run. But yeah, time to call sparky.

    >
    > One of my brother's best friends is an electrician and I called him for
    > his phone number. He's been out of work so I know he'll do it for me.
    > He's been an electrician for ages. The only thing is that I might not
    > have a working stove for a few days if he can't do it tomorrow.


    well, you can use it for thawing things out until then.



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    Polly Esther Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit


    "Cheryl" <>
    > One of my brother's best friends is an electrician and I called him for
    > his phone number. He's been out of work so I know he'll do it for me.
    > He's been an electrician for ages. The only thing is that I might not
    > have a working stove for a few days if he can't do it tomorrow.
    >


    If your new stove's bottom is simply a storage drawer, it may be that it is
    open to the back and the size of the plug and location of the outlet won't
    give you any grief at all. Meanwhile, if you must do without a stove for a
    few days it's probably time for you to enjoy your electric skillet,
    microwave, toaster oven and crock pot. We survived 6 months with no stove
    after a fire. It can be done. You can, of course, ignore that and eat out.
    I won't tell. Polly


  11. #11
    Cheryl Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit

    On 10/14/2011 11:56 PM, Polly Esther wrote:
    >
    > If your new stove's bottom is simply a storage drawer, it may be that it
    > is open to the back and the size of the plug and location of the outlet
    > won't give you any grief at all. Meanwhile, if you must do without a
    > stove for a few days it's probably time for you to enjoy your electric
    > skillet, microwave, toaster oven and crock pot. We survived 6 months
    > with no stove after a fire. It can be done. You can, of course, ignore
    > that and eat out. I won't tell.


    It is a storage drawer. I just left a message for my brother's friend.

    I can get by without a stove. I have a micro and a toaster oven. I
    can't use my grill because it's down on the grass while I get my deck
    sealed. Too much rain and the grill has been down there for weeks.


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    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit

    On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:18:37 -0400, Cheryl <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >I am getting my new range tomorrow and was cleaning out the storage
    >drawer and removing all the stuff I keep on top of the
    >backboard/splashboard shelf - which my new range will not have because
    >it's curved - and pulled it out a bit to see if I could easily move it.
    > Well it looks like I need an electrician. The current power looks
    >hardwired. There is a thick wire coming out of the wall (no receptacle)
    >and the new one comes with some new code power cord that's been in
    >effect since 2000. The free installation that comes from the vendor is
    >just to put it in place and plug it in. ****. Oh well.



    The right handy person can disconnect the old and hook the wires to
    the new in ten minutes or less. Having the plug is better though.

  13. #13
    Cheryl Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit

    On 10/15/2011 12:34 AM, Cheryl wrote:
    > On 10/14/2011 11:56 PM, Polly Esther wrote:
    >>
    >> If your new stove's bottom is simply a storage drawer, it may be that it
    >> is open to the back and the size of the plug and location of the outlet
    >> won't give you any grief at all. Meanwhile, if you must do without a
    >> stove for a few days it's probably time for you to enjoy your electric
    >> skillet, microwave, toaster oven and crock pot. We survived 6 months
    >> with no stove after a fire. It can be done. You can, of course, ignore
    >> that and eat out. I won't tell.

    >
    > It is a storage drawer. I just left a message for my brother's friend.
    >
    > I can get by without a stove. I have a micro and a toaster oven. I can't
    > use my grill because it's down on the grass while I get my deck sealed.
    > Too much rain and the grill has been down there for weeks.
    >

    Oh, and I wasn't surprised by all of the cat toys I see under the stove.
    LOL


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    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit

    "Cheryl" wrote:
    >
    >I am getting my new range tomorrow and was cleaning out the storage drawer
    >and removing all the stuff I keep on top of the backboard/splashboard
    >shelf - which my new range will not have because it's curved - and pulled
    >it out a bit to see if I could easily move it. Well it looks like I need an
    >electrician. The current power looks hardwired. There is a thick wire
    >coming out of the wall (no receptacle) and the new one comes with some new
    >code power cord that's been in effect since 2000. The free installation
    >that comes from the vendor is just to put it in place and plug it in.
    >****. Oh well.


    The store where you purchased should have asked if your old stove is a
    plug-in or hardwired... if plug-in they would have sold you the cable
    (about $30, theyh no longer ship with any cable). But not all sales
    people have much in the smarts department so probably wouldn't
    remember to ask, mine didn't but I got lucky and the delivery guys had
    new plug-in cables on the truck, saved me a trip to the store... they
    didn't even charge me... should be simpler for you, you have cleavage!
    LOL

    Last I bought a new electric stove was about 5 years ago, from Lowe's,
    they no longer ship with any connection cable... instructions supplied
    explained which connection cable to obtain for a plug-in and also how
    to make the hardwired connection (there'll be a diagrame on the back
    of the stove too). Even the plug-in cable needs to be hardwired to
    the back of the stove... six of one half dozen the other, same-same.
    If the present stove is hardwired there would be no problem connecting
    to the new stove without buying anything... if you can read and aren't
    color blind no electrician would be needed, just remember to turn off
    the power at your panel, and you'd need a decent screwdriver and
    probably an 8" crecent wrench... there'll be a clamp that secures the
    wire to the stove with nuts and bolts that needs to be reattached too.
    Buying a new electric clothes dryer requires the same exercise, they
    don't ship with plug-in cables either. There really should be no
    reason that the delivery guy wouldn't remove the old stove, take it
    away, and rewire the new stove... don't forget to tip at least $20, or
    whatever you usually give delivery guys! hehe

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    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:43:16 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:18:37 -0400, Cheryl <[email protected]>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>I am getting my new range tomorrow and was cleaning out the storage
    >>drawer and removing all the stuff I keep on top of the
    >>backboard/splashboard shelf - which my new range will not have because
    >>it's curved - and pulled it out a bit to see if I could easily move it.
    >> Well it looks like I need an electrician. The current power looks
    >>hardwired. There is a thick wire coming out of the wall (no receptacle)
    >>and the new one comes with some new code power cord that's been in
    >>effect since 2000. The free installation that comes from the vendor is
    >>just to put it in place and plug it in. ****. Oh well.

    >
    >
    >The right handy person can disconnect the old and hook the wires to
    >the new in ten minutes or less. Having the plug is better though.


    'Zactly. No electrician is needed, would be a big waste of money.
    Most average folks can make the connection themselves... but I
    strongly suggest Cheryl have someone do it for her, from reading her
    posts I seriously doubt she has the common sense to know that she
    needs to put on her socks before putting on her shoes... Cheryl
    epitomizes airhead.

    Having the plug is not really better, just more convenient (how many
    times does one unplug a stove), hardwired is safer.

  16. #16
    Kalmia Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit

    On Oct 14, 10:18*pm, Cheryl <jlhsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > I am getting my new range tomorrow and was cleaning out the storage
    > drawer and removing all the stuff I keep on top of the
    > backboard/splashboard shelf - which my new range will not have because
    > it's curved - and pulled it out a bit to see if I could easily move it.
    > * Well it looks like I need an electrician. *The current power looks
    > hardwired. *There is a thick wire coming out of the wall (no receptacle)
    > and the new one comes with some new code power cord that's been in
    > effect




    whaaaat? No flat backboard? I'd die without mine. Homebase for
    salt, pepper, cinnamon, ( all in shakers), seaweed flakes, a 3 minute
    egg timer....and a minute minder. I bet you'll miss that feature.

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    ImStillMags Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit

    On Oct 14, 7:18*pm, Cheryl <jlhsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > I am getting my new range tomorrow and was cleaning out the storage
    > drawer and removing all the stuff I keep on top of the
    > backboard/splashboard shelf - which my new range will not have because
    > it's curved - and pulled it out a bit to see if I could easily move it.
    > * Well it looks like I need an electrician. *The current power looks
    > hardwired. *There is a thick wire coming out of the wall (no receptacle)
    > and the new one comes with some new code power cord that's been in
    > effect since 2000. *The free installation that comes from the vendor is
    > just to put it in place and plug it in. *****. *Oh well.


    How old is the hardwire wire that comes out of the wall. Why can't
    it be used to hardwire the new stove?
    Seems to me you could unhook the old stove from the hard wire and then
    use it for the new one.
    Problem solved.

  18. #18
    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit

    In article <4e98ed7c$0$1304$[email protected]>,
    Cheryl <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I am getting my new range tomorrow and was cleaning out the storage
    > drawer and removing all the stuff I keep on top of the
    > backboard/splashboard shelf - which my new range will not have because
    > it's curved - and pulled it out a bit to see if I could easily move it.
    > Well it looks like I need an electrician. The current power looks
    > hardwired. There is a thick wire coming out of the wall (no receptacle)
    > and the new one comes with some new code power cord that's been in
    > effect since 2000. The free installation that comes from the vendor is
    > just to put it in place and plug it in. ****. Oh well.


    Good thing you are getting it replaced!

    Odds are, a good electrician (make sure they are bonded) can cut that
    wiring and install a proper receptical.

    Sounds like my first hot water heater. The plumbing was BRAISED into
    place! Had to pay a plumber (which are VERY expensive) to come out,
    remove the old hot water heater, cut the water pipes and install
    threaded fixtures to screw the new hot water heater in line.

    It's since been replaced a second time (we've been here 24 years)
    without the original hassle. <g>
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  19. #19
    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit

    In article <4e98fb49$0$14433$[email protected]>,
    Cheryl <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 10/14/2011 11:08 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
    >
    > > It may not be so bad. If the stove comes with a 4 connector plug, then you
    > > merely need a qualified person to replace it with a three prong plug. Older
    > > structures do not need to meet the newer standard. However if the stove
    > > comes with 4 unterminated wires, well that's a whole new ball game. But you
    > > should be able to get by without having to have a whole new set of wires
    > > run. But yeah, time to call sparky.

    >
    > One of my brother's best friends is an electrician and I called him for
    > his phone number. He's been out of work so I know he'll do it for me.
    > He's been an electrician for ages. The only thing is that I might not
    > have a working stove for a few days if he can't do it tomorrow.


    Got a microwave? <g>
    --
    Peace, Om
    Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>

    "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have
    come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
    -- Mark Twain

  20. #20
    sf Guest

    Default Re: New stove - dangit

    On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:32:42 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Oct 14, 10:18*pm, Cheryl <jlhsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > > I am getting my new range tomorrow and was cleaning out the storage
    > > drawer and removing all the stuff I keep on top of the
    > > backboard/splashboard shelf - which my new range will not have because
    > > it's curved - and pulled it out a bit to see if I could easily move it.
    > > * Well it looks like I need an electrician. *The current power looks
    > > hardwired. *There is a thick wire coming out of the wall (no receptacle)
    > > and the new one comes with some new code power cord that's been in
    > > effect

    >
    >
    >
    > whaaaat? No flat backboard? I'd die without mine. Homebase for
    > salt, pepper, cinnamon, ( all in shakers), seaweed flakes, a 3 minute
    > egg timer....and a minute minder. I bet you'll miss that feature.


    It's nothing a shelf or a nice piece of crown molding can't take care
    of.

    --
    All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

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