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    notbob Guest

    Default New catagory: vague'n

    heh....

    I'm still not a full psycho vegan, but getting closer. Have not had
    any butter, milk, eggs, ice cream (arghh!) since last check in. Still
    have some cheese and meat to consume, but only about once a week.
    Went to our weekly potluck, yesterday, and had a blatantly
    burger/cheese casserole somethingorother. Still, don't really miss
    meat all that much, except for the occasional twinge. The bonus is,
    I've lost about 6-7 lbs with no real effort. I eat cold cereal --my
    lifelong weakness-- w/ almond milk and a couple mini Snicker bars per
    day. Even deep fried foods seem to be no problem. I'm all over hash
    browns and matchstick potatoes. I eat like a horse, yet still lose
    weight. Amazing.

    A favorite is cabbage. Coleslaw with mustard/honey dressing, plain
    steamed, etc. I'm definitely gonna try to make my own kimchee this
    Winter. I have Anna's recipe, but would love to hear other's advice
    and recipes.

    My one concern is baking. How am I gonna deal with baked items
    requiring eggs. Is there a valid binding substitute? I may have to
    concede on this one, as I'm gonna make sf's carrot cake this week.
    All vegan except for the eggs. harrumph....

    I don't see myself, in the end, being a true vegan, specially with
    Easter ham season over the horizon. OTOH, I'm seeing/feeling the
    bennies of drastically reducing meat/dairy in my diet. Hence,
    "vague'n". Seems appropriate for where I'm at, right now.

    My buddy, a butcher at our local mkt, loves to hear about my efforts
    and kids me mercilessly. He spotted me across an isle, yesterday, and
    pointed to my hidden hand, which obviously was burdened by something
    I'd picked up in his section. It was Claussen pickles! hah.

    Having lovely weather, this week. Cold nights, warm days. I got my
    cold weather apparel pretty much dialed in, so not cold and saving
    on heating costs.

    Wishing you all a happy upcoming Winter.

    nb




  2. #2
    zxcvbob Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n

    notbob wrote:
    > My one concern is baking. How am I gonna deal with baked items
    > requiring eggs. Is there a valid binding substitute? I may have to
    > concede on this one, as I'm gonna make sf's carrot cake this week.
    > All vegan except for the eggs. harrumph....



    Try ground flaxseed and water. Stir it up. Stir, stir, stir, and it
    gets mucilaginous (snotty). I'm not sure the proportions, but the
    local health food store or SDA church can probably tell you if you
    can't find it online.

    HTH, Bob

  3. #3
    Janet Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    says...
    >
    > heh....
    >
    > I'm still not a full psycho vegan, but getting closer. Have not had
    > any butter, milk, eggs, ice cream (arghh!) since last check in. Still
    > have some cheese and meat to consume, but only about once a week.
    > Went to our weekly potluck, yesterday, and had a blatantly
    > burger/cheese casserole somethingorother. Still, don't really miss
    > meat all that much,


    Maybe because you haven't stopped eating it yet?
    >
    > A favorite is cabbage. Coleslaw with mustard/honey dressing,


    Oi!.. vegans don't eat honey.

    Janet

  4. #4
    sf Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n

    On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:29:29 +0100, Janet <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Oi!.. vegans don't eat honey.


    I could never be a died in the wool vegan. I might get as far as
    vegetarian, but I'd be falling off the wagon every week if not daily.

    --
    All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

  5. #5
    notbob Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n

    On 2011-10-21, zxcvbob <[email protected]> wrote:

    > gets mucilaginous (snotty).


    That's no way to talk about Janet. She was merely trying to start an
    argument.

    (I'll take yer suggestion under advisement, bob, regardless of how
    replusive it sounds. Thnx.

    nb

  6. #6
    Jim Elbrecht Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n

    notbob <[email protected]> wrote:

    >heh....
    >
    >I'm still not a full psycho vegan, but getting closer. Have not had
    >any butter, milk, eggs, ice cream (arghh!) since last check in. Still
    >have some cheese and meat to consume, but only about once a week.
    >Went to our weekly potluck, yesterday, and had a blatantly
    >burger/cheese casserole somethingorother. Still, don't really miss
    >meat all that much, except for the occasional twinge. The bonus is,
    >I've lost about 6-7 lbs with no real effort.


    A friend of my daughters went 'vague'n' for the same reason. Daughter
    is sticking a little closer to vegan with the exception of honey and
    sugar. And she can still laugh at the real militant vegans.

    -snip-
    >
    >My one concern is baking. How am I gonna deal with baked items
    >requiring eggs. Is there a valid binding substitute? I may have to
    >concede on this one, as I'm gonna make sf's carrot cake this week.
    >All vegan except for the eggs. harrumph....


    1/2 cup of applesauce, a banana, some flax meal and water-- and just
    ignore them. All ways I've substituted [or not] for eggs.

    The flax meal & water is the best binder-- but we switched applesauce
    for eggs in a brownie recipe a few years ago for a friend who was
    allergic to eggs. Now we always make them egg free.

    I've left eggs out of a couple recipes and haven't noticed the
    difference.

    >
    >I don't see myself, in the end, being a true vegan, specially with
    >Easter ham season over the horizon. OTOH, I'm seeing/feeling the
    >bennies of drastically reducing meat/dairy in my diet. Hence,
    >"vague'n". Seems appropriate for where I'm at, right now.


    I like the term. We'll see how my daughter does this Thanksgiving.
    Loads of temptations-- most of all, her grandmother's bread recipe
    with milk and butter.
    -snip-
    >Having lovely weather, this week. Cold nights, warm days. I got my
    >cold weather apparel pretty much dialed in, so not cold and saving
    >on heating costs.


    My fav time of year.

    Jim

  7. #7
    Pete C. Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n


    notbob wrote:
    >
    > heh....
    >
    > I'm still not a full psycho vegan, but getting closer. Have not had
    > any butter, milk, eggs, ice cream (arghh!) since last check in. Still
    > have some cheese and meat to consume, but only about once a week.
    > Went to our weekly potluck, yesterday, and had a blatantly
    > burger/cheese casserole somethingorother. Still, don't really miss
    > meat all that much, except for the occasional twinge. The bonus is,
    > I've lost about 6-7 lbs with no real effort. I eat cold cereal --my
    > lifelong weakness-- w/ almond milk and a couple mini Snicker bars per
    > day. Even deep fried foods seem to be no problem. I'm all over hash
    > browns and matchstick potatoes. I eat like a horse, yet still lose
    > weight. Amazing.
    >
    > A favorite is cabbage. Coleslaw with mustard/honey dressing, plain
    > steamed, etc. I'm definitely gonna try to make my own kimchee this
    > Winter. I have Anna's recipe, but would love to hear other's advice
    > and recipes.
    >
    > My one concern is baking. How am I gonna deal with baked items
    > requiring eggs. Is there a valid binding substitute? I may have to
    > concede on this one, as I'm gonna make sf's carrot cake this week.
    > All vegan except for the eggs. harrumph....
    >
    > I don't see myself, in the end, being a true vegan, specially with
    > Easter ham season over the horizon. OTOH, I'm seeing/feeling the
    > bennies of drastically reducing meat/dairy in my diet. Hence,
    > "vague'n". Seems appropriate for where I'm at, right now.
    >
    > My buddy, a butcher at our local mkt, loves to hear about my efforts
    > and kids me mercilessly. He spotted me across an isle, yesterday, and
    > pointed to my hidden hand, which obviously was burdened by something
    > I'd picked up in his section. It was Claussen pickles! hah.
    >
    > Having lovely weather, this week. Cold nights, warm days. I got my
    > cold weather apparel pretty much dialed in, so not cold and saving
    > on heating costs.
    >
    > Wishing you all a happy upcoming Winter.
    >
    > nb
    >


    I'm compensating for you, I have reservations here tonight:
    http://fogodechao.com

  8. #8
    Christopher M. Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n


    "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > heh....
    >
    > I'm still not a full psycho vegan, but getting closer. Have not had
    > any butter, milk, eggs, ice cream (arghh!) since last check in. Still
    > have some cheese and meat to consume, but only about once a week.
    > Went to our weekly potluck, yesterday, and had a blatantly
    > burger/cheese casserole somethingorother. Still, don't really miss
    > meat all that much, except for the occasional twinge. The bonus is,
    > I've lost about 6-7 lbs with no real effort. I eat cold cereal --my
    > lifelong weakness


    Me as well.

    Lately Pooh has been eating small amounts of cereal in mugs. It doesn't seem
    so small when it's in a mug.

    > -- w/ almond milk and a couple mini Snicker bars per
    > day. Even deep fried foods seem to be no problem. I'm all over hash
    > browns and matchstick potatoes. I eat like a horse, yet still lose
    > weight. Amazing.
    >
    > A favorite is cabbage. Coleslaw with mustard/honey dressing, plain
    > steamed, etc. I'm definitely gonna try to make my own kimchee this
    > Winter. I have Anna's recipe, but would love to hear other's advice
    > and recipes.


    Good luck with that, pale-reflection-of-Bob. Stay away from the bigos, the
    bane of many overweight Polish people.

    > My one concern is baking. How am I gonna deal with baked items
    > requiring eggs. Is there a valid binding substitute? I may have to
    > concede on this one, as I'm gonna make sf's carrot cake this week.
    > All vegan except for the eggs. harrumph....


    In some recipes you can substitute 1/4 cup of milk for an egg, like in
    cookie dough. It makes the cookies crispier, and less eggy.

    > I don't see myself, in the end, being a true vegan, specially with
    > Easter ham season over the horizon. OTOH, I'm seeing/feeling the
    > bennies of drastically reducing meat/dairy in my diet. Hence,
    > "vague'n". Seems appropriate for where I'm at, right now.


    Milk is Pooh's kryptonite as well.


    W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)



  9. #9
    notbob Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n

    On 2011-10-21, Pete C. <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I'm compensating for you.....


    I've never thought of being completely brain dead as equivalent
    compensation, but I guess I owe you a vote of thanks. So
    .....um.... thanks!

    nb

  10. #10
    Pete C. Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n


    notbob wrote:
    >
    > On 2011-10-21, Pete C. <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > I'm compensating for you.....

    >
    > I've never thought of being completely brain dead as equivalent
    > compensation, but I guess I owe you a vote of thanks. So
    > ....um.... thanks!
    >
    > nb


    Clearly your unhealthy diet is destroying what little remains of your
    brain...

  11. #11
    Doug Freyburger Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n

    Janet wrote:
    >
    > Oi!.. vegans don't eat honey.


    I think the term "vague'n" is very creative for that reason. Go past
    lacto-ovo-vegetarian most of the time without being strict about it.
    Not my style but it sure makes better sense than "full psycho vegan"
    which is also a creative term.

  12. #12
    Ophelia Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n


    "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On 2011-10-21, zxcvbob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> gets mucilaginous (snotty).

    >
    > That's no way to talk about Janet. She was merely trying to start an
    > argument.
    >
    > (I'll take yer suggestion under advisement, bob, regardless of how
    > replusive it sounds. Thnx.


    lol

    --
    http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/


  13. #13
    Ophelia Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n


    "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On 2011-10-21, Pete C. <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> I'm compensating for you.....

    >
    > I've never thought of being completely brain dead as equivalent
    > compensation, but I guess I owe you a vote of thanks. So
    > ....um.... thanks!


    May I ask why you are wanting to do this?

    --
    http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/


  14. #14
    notbob Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n

    On 2011-10-21, Ophelia <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > May I ask why you are wanting to do this?


    What? Getting all veganish?

    I saw the movie, Forks Over Knives, which is admittedly blatant vegan
    propaganda, but it made me wonder. I've tried so many fad diets, I
    figured why not try this approach. Plus, I really do want to decrease
    my cholesterol count. It's now at about 200, which one doctor told me
    is no biggie. I have a re-test in about 10 wks. If it does nada,
    I'll go back to pigging out on baby back ribs and carnitas. In the
    meantime, I'm actually losing weight, a nice bonus. If nothing else,
    it's a nice sojourn down yet another food path. If I don't like it, I
    can always move on. The subject title says it all.

    nb

  15. #15
    Storrmmee Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n

    use a quarter cup applesauce for each egg, Lee
    "zxcvbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > notbob wrote:
    >> My one concern is baking. How am I gonna deal with baked items
    >> requiring eggs. Is there a valid binding substitute? I may have to
    >> concede on this one, as I'm gonna make sf's carrot cake this week.
    >> All vegan except for the eggs. harrumph....

    >
    >
    > Try ground flaxseed and water. Stir it up. Stir, stir, stir, and it gets
    > mucilaginous (snotty). I'm not sure the proportions, but the local health
    > food store or SDA church can probably tell you if you can't find it
    > online.
    >
    > HTH, Bob




  16. #16
    Ophelia Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n


    "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On 2011-10-21, Ophelia <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> May I ask why you are wanting to do this?

    >
    > What? Getting all veganish?
    >
    > I saw the movie, Forks Over Knives, which is admittedly blatant vegan
    > propaganda, but it made me wonder. I've tried so many fad diets, I
    > figured why not try this approach. Plus, I really do want to decrease
    > my cholesterol count. It's now at about 200, which one doctor told me
    > is no biggie. I have a re-test in about 10 wks. If it does nada,
    > I'll go back to pigging out on baby back ribs and carnitas. In the
    > meantime, I'm actually losing weight, a nice bonus. If nothing else,
    > it's a nice sojourn down yet another food path. If I don't like it, I
    > can always move on. The subject title says it all.


    Awww try Low Carb
    --
    http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/


  17. #17
    notbob Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n

    On 2011-10-21, Ophelia <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Awww try Low Carb


    BTDT. Unrealistic.

  18. #18
    Ophelia Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n


    "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On 2011-10-21, Ophelia <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Awww try Low Carb

    >
    > BTDT. Unrealistic.





    --
    http://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/


  19. #19
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n


    "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > heh....
    >
    > I'm still not a full psycho vegan, but getting closer. Have not had
    > any butter, milk, eggs, ice cream (arghh!) since last check in. Still
    > have some cheese and meat to consume, but only about once a week.
    > Went to our weekly potluck, yesterday, and had a blatantly
    > burger/cheese casserole somethingorother. Still, don't really miss
    > meat all that much, except for the occasional twinge. The bonus is,
    > I've lost about 6-7 lbs with no real effort. I eat cold cereal --my
    > lifelong weakness-- w/ almond milk and a couple mini Snicker bars per
    > day. Even deep fried foods seem to be no problem. I'm all over hash
    > browns and matchstick potatoes. I eat like a horse, yet still lose
    > weight. Amazing.
    >
    > A favorite is cabbage. Coleslaw with mustard/honey dressing, plain
    > steamed, etc. I'm definitely gonna try to make my own kimchee this
    > Winter. I have Anna's recipe, but would love to hear other's advice
    > and recipes.
    >
    > My one concern is baking. How am I gonna deal with baked items
    > requiring eggs. Is there a valid binding substitute? I may have to
    > concede on this one, as I'm gonna make sf's carrot cake this week.
    > All vegan except for the eggs. harrumph....
    >
    > I don't see myself, in the end, being a true vegan, specially with
    > Easter ham season over the horizon. OTOH, I'm seeing/feeling the
    > bennies of drastically reducing meat/dairy in my diet. Hence,
    > "vague'n". Seems appropriate for where I'm at, right now.
    >
    > My buddy, a butcher at our local mkt, loves to hear about my efforts
    > and kids me mercilessly. He spotted me across an isle, yesterday, and
    > pointed to my hidden hand, which obviously was burdened by something
    > I'd picked up in his section. It was Claussen pickles! hah.
    >
    > Having lovely weather, this week. Cold nights, warm days. I got my
    > cold weather apparel pretty much dialed in, so not cold and saving
    > on heating costs.
    >
    > Wishing you all a happy upcoming Winter.
    >
    > nb


    You can buy Ener-G brand egg replace but that doesn't work for a lot of
    things IMO. I usually use ground flaxseed mixed with water.



  20. #20
    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Re: New catagory: vague'n

    notbob wrote:
    >
    > My one concern is baking. How am I gonna deal with baked items
    > requiring eggs. Is there a valid binding substitute? I may have to
    > concede on this one, as I'm gonna make sf's carrot cake this week.
    > All vegan except for the eggs. harrumph....


    Soy lecithin should work. I don't know how much
    is equivalent, but it can't be much. An egg yolk
    only has about 1/4 gram or so of lecithin in it.
    (I once extracted the lecithin from an egg, so
    I know what it looks like, but I don't remember
    what it weighed.)

    It is the lecithin in eggs that makes them a good
    emulsifier. I'd say about 1/8 teaspoon of soy
    lecithin should be about enough to substitute
    for one egg, but I'd defer to Google if it links
    to a halfway reasonable web site that gives a
    different amount. I don't think it's likely to
    hurt anything to use more lecithin than you need.

    You can get soy lecithin at Whole Foods or any
    health food store. These days, even a regular
    supermarket might have it. It's widely used as
    a dietary supplement because it contains choline,
    which is a neurotransmitter precursor. The same
    thing is also sold under the name "phosphatidyl
    choline".

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