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  1. #1
    Cheryl Guest

    Default Need REC ideas

    Must be high calorie, not full of fat but lots of protein would be good, and
    while we're at it, well rounded with veggies high in antioxidants. A soup
    that can be blended fine but still taste good. The foods that cause distress
    are high fat and anything he has to chew. Can only eat about 2 oz at a
    time. My dad.

    --
    Cheryl


  2. #2
    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas

    Cheryl wrote:
    > Must be high calorie, not full of fat but lots of protein would be
    > good, and while we're at it, well rounded with veggies high in
    > antioxidants. A soup that can be blended fine but still taste good.
    > The foods that cause distress are high fat and anything he has to
    > chew. Can only eat about 2 oz at a time. My dad.


    How about black bean soup? I googled and it seems they
    fit the bill as far as antioxidants go.

    This is a delicious soup, and you could blend it to your
    desired thickness (thinness?), or even thin it with more broth:

    http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/fo...Bean-Soup-2057

    Having a stick blender is very handy.

    nancy

  3. #3
    Lin Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas

    Cheryl wrote:

    > Must be high calorie, not full of fat but lots of protein would be good,
    > and while we're at it, well rounded with veggies high in antioxidants.
    > A soup that can be blended fine but still taste good. The foods that
    > cause distress are high fat and anything he has to chew. Can only eat
    > about 2 oz at a time. My dad.


    Sounds like what I threw together to have with my low-fat quiche last night:

    "Lin's Thrown Together Potato Soup" which then became LTTP w/Broccoli
    and THEN LTTPB w/cheese.

    First, sweat/sauté half of a roughly chopped onion and a couple stalks
    of chopped celery (adjust either of these things to your liking) in a
    pot or pan large enough for soup. I used a tablespoon of Brummel & Brown
    as the agent for the sauté. Peel and quarter five or six potatoes. Add
    to the pot after the veggies are soft and translucent. Next, pour
    chicken stock to just barely cover the contents of the pot. Salt and
    pepper the stock to taste. Cover and simmer till the potatoes are
    falling apart. Keeping heat low, add one can of fat free evaporated
    milk. Gently stir and let simmer till it's the consistency that you and
    your dad prefer.

    At this point my soup was utterly delicious, but I couldn't leave well
    enough alone. I microwave steamed a cup or so of broccoli crowns for
    3-1/2 minutes and added it to the soup. It was really good at this
    point. But THEN I added maybe a half cup of shredded cheese.

    You can serve this with a little bacon crumbled on top if it suits you
    and your dad.

    My notes: The fat free evap milk adds the richness and creaminess
    without the fat. It also sweetens the soup slightly. I liked it.
    Obviously, you DON'T have to add the broccoli or the cheese (or the
    cheese can be sprinkled on the soup at serving). Good additions are
    cooked chicken chunks and/or corn. You could even turn it into a clam
    chowder! Obviously, this can be as protein and calorie rich as your
    imagination takes you -- without the fat!

    The soup was supposed to be an accompaniment to the Spinach Ricotta
    Quiche (low fat as well) but it completely upstaged the main event.

    --Lin (just noticed that my instructions are done like JoC without
    skipping pages!)

  4. #4
    Miche Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas

    In article <gZU9l.14316$[email protected]>,
    "Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Must be high calorie, not full of fat but lots of protein would be good, and
    > while we're at it, well rounded with veggies high in antioxidants. A soup
    > that can be blended fine but still taste good. The foods that cause distress
    > are high fat and anything he has to chew. Can only eat about 2 oz at a
    > time. My dad.


    Chicken soup!

    Miche

    --
    Electricians do it in three phases

  5. #5
    Cheryl Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas

    Thanks Lin. I'm so tired I can't look at this to see how to adapt for his
    special needs but will tomorrow. You can literally go 2 weeks without
    seeing him and the next sight is a shock. Skin and bones. Everything he
    does tires him out, even walking to the car, to the Dr office, back to the
    car and he's dragging.


    "Lin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:445e2$496820cd$453e8ce6$[email protected]. .
    > Cheryl wrote:
    >
    >> Must be high calorie, not full of fat but lots of protein would be good,
    >> and while we're at it, well rounded with veggies high in antioxidants. A
    >> soup that can be blended fine but still taste good. The foods that cause
    >> distress are high fat and anything he has to chew. Can only eat about 2
    >> oz at a time. My dad.

    >
    > Sounds like what I threw together to have with my low-fat quiche last
    > night:
    >
    > "Lin's Thrown Together Potato Soup" which then became LTTP w/Broccoli and
    > THEN LTTPB w/cheese.
    >
    > First, sweat/sauté half of a roughly chopped onion and a couple stalks of
    > chopped celery (adjust either of these things to your liking) in a pot or
    > pan large enough for soup. I used a tablespoon of Brummel & Brown as the
    > agent for the sauté. Peel and quarter five or six potatoes. Add to the pot
    > after the veggies are soft and translucent. Next, pour chicken stock to
    > just barely cover the contents of the pot. Salt and pepper the stock to
    > taste. Cover and simmer till the potatoes are falling apart. Keeping heat
    > low, add one can of fat free evaporated milk. Gently stir and let simmer
    > till it's the consistency that you and your dad prefer.
    >
    > At this point my soup was utterly delicious, but I couldn't leave well
    > enough alone. I microwave steamed a cup or so of broccoli crowns for 3-1/2
    > minutes and added it to the soup. It was really good at this point. But
    > THEN I added maybe a half cup of shredded cheese.
    >
    > You can serve this with a little bacon crumbled on top if it suits you and
    > your dad.
    >
    > My notes: The fat free evap milk adds the richness and creaminess without
    > the fat. It also sweetens the soup slightly. I liked it. Obviously, you
    > DON'T have to add the broccoli or the cheese (or the cheese can be
    > sprinkled on the soup at serving). Good additions are cooked chicken
    > chunks and/or corn. You could even turn it into a clam chowder! Obviously,
    > this can be as protein and calorie rich as your imagination takes you --
    > without the fat!
    >
    > The soup was supposed to be an accompaniment to the Spinach Ricotta Quiche
    > (low fat as well) but it completely upstaged the main event.
    >
    > --Lin (just noticed that my instructions are done like JoC without
    > skipping pages!)



  6. #6
    MaryL Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas


    "Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:gZU9l.14316$[email protected]..
    > Must be high calorie, not full of fat but lots of protein would be good,
    > and while we're at it, well rounded with veggies high in antioxidants. A
    > soup that can be blended fine but still taste good. The foods that cause
    > distress are high fat and anything he has to chew. Can only eat about 2
    > oz at a time. My dad.
    >
    > --
    > Cheryl
    >


    My first thought was black bean soup, but Nancy beat me to that. In
    addition (but this is not a recipe, of course), have you considered one of
    the nutritional supplements that are frequently used for the elderly--such
    as Ensure or Boost. They come in several flavors and are readily available
    in pharmacies and grocery stores.

    MaryL


  7. #7
    Cheryl Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas


    "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4968256f$0$5462$[email protected] ..

    > My first thought was black bean soup, but Nancy beat me to that. In
    > addition (but this is not a recipe, of course), have you considered one of
    > the nutritional supplements that are frequently used for the elderly--such
    > as Ensure or Boost. They come in several flavors and are readily
    > available in pharmacies and grocery stores.
    >


    Thanks Mary. Yes, he's on Ensure and Boost and even mixes ice cream in for
    more calories. Mom said he did 3 - 2oz feedings today. For a grown man that
    is nothing. He tires out with everything he does and the last two days he
    just spent in bed. At least the endoscope is next week and I hope it finds
    something treatable. not thinking the other yet.



  8. #8
    modom (palindrome guy) Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas

    On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 22:53:44 -0500, "Cheryl"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Must be high calorie, not full of fat but lots of protein would be good, and
    >while we're at it, well rounded with veggies high in antioxidants. A soup
    >that can be blended fine but still taste good. The foods that cause distress
    >are high fat and anything he has to chew. Can only eat about 2 oz at a
    >time. My dad.


    Such a genuinely touching request. I asked my wife her opinion and
    she suggested this:

    A smoothie made with tofu such as this one from "This Can't Be Tofu!"
    by Deborah Madison

    1 1/2 cups soy milk
    1.2 cup silken tofu
    1/3 cup peanut butter
    1 Tblsp honey
    1 banana
    5 ice cubes

    Puree soy milk and tofu in a blender until smooth. Add the remaining
    ingredients and puree once more till smooth and cold. Serve in small
    glasses.

    Maybe some variation of the above could be a little help?

    I'm also thinking of a super rich, much reduced stock made from veal
    bones as the base of a pureed soup. A super dense veal stock pureed
    with roasted carrots, ginger and a little lemon juice might taste
    good.
    --

    modom

  9. #9
    cybercat Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas


    "Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:gZU9l.14316$[email protected]..
    > Must be high calorie, not full of fat but lots of protein would be good,
    > and while we're at it, well rounded with veggies high in antioxidants. A
    > soup that can be blended fine but still taste good. The foods that cause
    > distress are high fat and anything he has to chew. Can only eat about 2
    > oz at a time. My dad.
    >


    Does he like pea soup? Like split pea? It might be good pureed, and is
    fattening.



  10. #10
    MaryL Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas


    "Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:fEV9l.14328$[email protected]..
    >
    > "MaryL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:4968256f$0$5462$[email protected] ..
    >
    >> My first thought was black bean soup, but Nancy beat me to that. In
    >> addition (but this is not a recipe, of course), have you considered one
    >> of the nutritional supplements that are frequently used for the
    >> elderly--such as Ensure or Boost. They come in several flavors and are
    >> readily available in pharmacies and grocery stores.
    >>

    >
    > Thanks Mary. Yes, he's on Ensure and Boost and even mixes ice cream in
    > for more calories. Mom said he did 3 - 2oz feedings today. For a grown
    > man that is nothing. He tires out with everything he does and the last two
    > days he just spent in bed. At least the endoscope is next week and I hope
    > it finds something treatable. not thinking the other yet.
    >
    >


    Cheryl,

    I have a friend who is a nutritionist at a local hospital. I will contact
    her and see if she has any ideas for you.

    MaryL


  11. #11
    Janet Bostwick Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas

    Cheryl wrote:
    > Must be high calorie, not full of fat but lots of protein would be
    > good, and while we're at it, well rounded with veggies high in
    > antioxidants. A soup that can be blended fine but still taste good.
    > The foods that cause distress are high fat and anything he has to
    > chew. Can only eat about 2 oz at a time. My dad.
    >
    > --
    > Cheryl


    I found that the hospital nutritionist was very helpful when I had problems
    like this after radiation treatment. Looking through the booklet I was
    given, and eliminating the items that have fat, the recommendations are to
    cook foods with milk whenever possible and to add eggs -- even suggesting
    beating eggs into mashed potatoes. You really need to talk to a nutriionist
    and get whatever materials they have. The booklet I'm looking at is "Eating
    Hints for Cancer Patients" by the U.S. Department of Health and Human
    Services. Some other suggestions from the booklet. . . Banana Milksake (1
    whole ripe banana sliced, a few drops of vanilla extract and 1 cup milk.
    Also, try a small glass of beer or wine with meals. Fortify the milk you
    give (1 quart whole milk and 1 cup nonfat instant dry milk. High-protein
    milkshake -- 1 cup fortified milk, 2 tablespoons butterscotch, chocolate or
    favorite fruit syrup or sauce, 1/2 cup ice cream, 1/2 teaspoon vanilla
    extract. Fruit and Cream --1 cup whole milk, 1 cup vanilla ice cream or
    frozen yogurt, 1 cup cannet fruit in heavy syrup, almond or vanilla extract,
    blend and chill. Looking through this booklet, there is really too much to
    relate to you. See if you can get a copy online or at your library or most
    probably from the hospital. The hospital is generally helpful and free.
    The recipe hints I gave you above generally run between 350 and 450 calories
    per cup. Good Luck.
    Janet



  12. #12
    Kathleen Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas

    modom (palindrome guy) wrote:

    > On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 22:53:44 -0500, "Cheryl"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Must be high calorie, not full of fat but lots of protein would be good, and
    >>while we're at it, well rounded with veggies high in antioxidants. A soup
    >>that can be blended fine but still taste good. The foods that cause distress
    >>are high fat and anything he has to chew. Can only eat about 2 oz at a
    >>time. My dad.

    >
    >
    > Such a genuinely touching request. I asked my wife her opinion and
    > she suggested this:
    >
    > A smoothie made with tofu such as this one from "This Can't Be Tofu!"
    > by Deborah Madison
    >
    > 1 1/2 cups soy milk
    > 1.2 cup silken tofu
    > 1/3 cup peanut butter
    > 1 Tblsp honey
    > 1 banana
    > 5 ice cubes
    >
    > Puree soy milk and tofu in a blender until smooth. Add the remaining
    > ingredients and puree once more till smooth and cold. Serve in small
    > glasses.
    >
    > Maybe some variation of the above could be a little help?
    >
    > I'm also thinking of a super rich, much reduced stock made from veal
    > bones as the base of a pureed soup. A super dense veal stock pureed
    > with roasted carrots, ginger and a little lemon juice might taste
    > good.



    I love the sound of these suggestions but truth be told, the guy should
    probably be sipping Ensure, which is nutritionally balanced and easy to
    digest. I went through this with my dad. The Ensure goes down easiest
    when taken very cold, to the point of pouring it into a frozen cup for
    sipping.

    Get the Ensure into him first then see if you can tempt him to take just
    a couple sips more of something savory like the soups mentioned above.
    Modom's veal stock (which actually sounds like a demi-glace) might be
    nice, even if all he does is lick a little off a spoon. Leaving it
    where he can reach it can work, as long as the smell isn't aggravating
    any nausea. I watched my dad finish an ounce or so of thick soup while
    watching TV. He'd dip his finger in it and lick it off, basically
    unconsciously. It's a damned slow way to eat but I found it reassuring
    to see him voluntarily ingesting anything rather than swallowing it like
    medicine just for survival.

    When you're dealing with anorexia in someone so very ill, your instinct
    is to push *just one more sip*. If he says he just can't, let it go and
    try again in an hour or so. You don't want to make him puke


  13. #13
    Michael \Dog3\ Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas

    "Cheryl" <[email protected]>
    news:gZU9l.14316$[email protected]: in rec.food.cooking

    > Must be high calorie, not full of fat but lots of protein would be
    > good, and while we're at it, well rounded with veggies high in
    > antioxidants. A soup that can be blended fine but still taste good.
    > The foods that cause distress are high fat and anything he has to
    > chew. Can only eat about 2 oz at a time. My dad.


    Any cream of or cheesy veggie type soup would be good. Here is a basic
    Steven made me eat, a LOT when I was on the mend. Sometimes the veggies
    varied to make it more interesting. If you dad likes artichokes and
    spinach this would be an excellent base idea. Also, I make a go by the
    seat of your pants potato soup that is really good. I don't have a
    recipe for it but I can give you the how I 'sort' of do it deal. Here is
    a base recipe from southern foods:

    This cream of vegetable soup recipe comes from Sandy H.

    Ingredients:

    1 1/2 to 2 cups vegetable, your favorite, depending on the vegetable and
    how thick you like the soup
    1/4 cup chopped onion
    1/3 cup sliced celery
    1 clove of crushed garlic, or to taste
    1/4 teaspoon salt, or to taste
    1/4 teaspoon pepper, or to taste
    1 bay leaf
    2 cans (10 3/4 ounces each) condensed chicken broth
    2 tablespoons butter
    2 tablespoons flour
    1 1/2 cups of half-and-half

    Preparation:

    In a 3-quart saucepan, combine the vegetable, onion, celery, salt,
    pepper, garlic, and bay leaf. Add water to the chicken broth to make
    three cups and add it to the saucepan. Bring the mixture to a boil and
    reduce the heat. Cover and simmer until vegetables are tender. Drain and
    save broth. Remove bay leaf and puree the vegetables in a blender with
    half of the broth. In another pan, melt the butter and remove from heat.
    Add flour to the butter and put back over the heat, stirring until the
    mixture boils. Add the pureed vegetables and the half-and-half to the
    butter-flour mixture. Continue stirring until the soup is hot and well
    blended.

    Shared by SandyH

    I hope you dad feels better soon.

    Michael

    --
    “He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand
    your words.”
    ~Elbert Hubbard

    You can find me at: - michael at lonergan dot us dot com

  14. #14
    Michael \Dog3\ Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas

    "modom (palindrome guy)" <[email protected]>
    news:[email protected]: in rec.food.cooking

    > On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 22:53:44 -0500, "Cheryl"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Must be high calorie, not full of fat but lots of protein would be
    >>good, and while we're at it, well rounded with veggies high in
    >>antioxidants. A soup that can be blended fine but still taste good.
    >>The foods that cause distress are high fat and anything he has to
    >>chew. Can only eat about 2 oz at a time. My dad.

    >
    > Such a genuinely touching request. I asked my wife her opinion and
    > she suggested this:
    >
    > A smoothie made with tofu such as this one from "This Can't Be Tofu!"
    > by Deborah Madison
    >
    > 1 1/2 cups soy milk
    > 1.2 cup silken tofu
    > 1/3 cup peanut butter
    > 1 Tblsp honey
    > 1 banana
    > 5 ice cubes
    >
    > Puree soy milk and tofu in a blender until smooth. Add the remaining
    > ingredients and puree once more till smooth and cold. Serve in small
    > glasses.
    >
    > Maybe some variation of the above could be a little help?
    >
    > I'm also thinking of a super rich, much reduced stock made from veal
    > bones as the base of a pureed soup. A super dense veal stock pureed
    > with roasted carrots, ginger and a little lemon juice might taste
    > good.


    I make smoothies all the time. I love them but I'venever thought of
    making a savory smoothie. Nice idea.

    Michael


    --
    “He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand
    your words.”
    ~Elbert Hubbard

    You can find me at: - michael at lonergan dot us dot com

  15. #15
    Michael \Dog3\ Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas

    Kathleen <[email protected]>
    news:BH_9l.1370$[email protected]: in rec.food.cooking

    >
    > I love the sound of these suggestions but truth be told, the guy
    > should probably be sipping Ensure, which is nutritionally balanced and
    > easy to digest. I went through this with my dad. The Ensure goes
    > down easiest when taken very cold, to the point of pouring it into a
    > frozen cup for sipping.


    I also drank a lot of Ensure. At least it's tasty and very good for you.
    For some reason I got sick and tired of it though. I think maybe because I
    was "forced" to drink it was my issue ;-)

    Michael


    --
    “He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand your
    words.”
    ~Elbert Hubbard

    You can find me at: - michael at lonergan dot us dot com

  16. #16
    Janet Bostwick Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas

    Michael "Dog3" wrote:
    > Kathleen <[email protected]>
    > news:BH_9l.1370$[email protected]: in rec.food.cooking
    >
    >>
    >> I love the sound of these suggestions but truth be told, the guy
    >> should probably be sipping Ensure, which is nutritionally balanced
    >> and easy to digest. I went through this with my dad. The Ensure
    >> goes down easiest when taken very cold, to the point of pouring it
    >> into a frozen cup for sipping.

    >
    > I also drank a lot of Ensure. At least it's tasty and very good for
    > you. For some reason I got sick and tired of it though. I think maybe
    > because I was "forced" to drink it was my issue ;-)
    >
    > Michael
    >

    I couldn't take Ensure, it was too milky. There is another product that is
    clear and comes in Apple and some other flavor that is nutrionally balanced.
    Can't remember the name of it. Ask at a pharmacy.
    Janet
    > --
    > "He who does not understand your silence will probably not understand
    > your words."
    > ~Elbert Hubbard
    >
    > You can find me at: - michael at lonergan dot us dot com




  17. #17
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas

    On 10 Jan 2009 14:09:33 GMT, Michael "Dog3" wrote:

    > Kathleen <[email protected]>
    > news:BH_9l.1370$[email protected]: in rec.food.cooking
    >
    >>
    >> I love the sound of these suggestions but truth be told, the guy
    >> should probably be sipping Ensure, which is nutritionally balanced and
    >> easy to digest. I went through this with my dad. The Ensure goes
    >> down easiest when taken very cold, to the point of pouring it into a
    >> frozen cup for sipping.

    >
    > I also drank a lot of Ensure. At least it's tasty and very good for you.
    > For some reason I got sick and tired of it though. I think maybe because I
    > was "forced" to drink it was my issue ;-)
    >
    > Michael


    'tasty' is not a word i'd apply to ensure.

    your pal,
    blake

  18. #18
    Janet Wilder Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas

    Cheryl wrote:
    > Must be high calorie, not full of fat but lots of protein would be good,
    > and while we're at it, well rounded with veggies high in antioxidants.
    > A soup that can be blended fine but still taste good. The foods that
    > cause distress are high fat and anything he has to chew. Can only eat
    > about 2 oz at a time. My dad.
    >


    Cheryl,

    I was in that situation two years ago. I lived (literally) on High
    Protein Boost at room temperature. It was easy to digest and went down
    easily, too. I would often spend 30 to 40 minutes on one bottle, sipping
    little bits at a time.

    The stuff saved my life. I would have died of starvation without it. It
    was the only nutrition I could take for 3 months.

  19. #19
    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas

    In article <gZU9l.14316$[email protected]>,
    "Cheryl" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Must be high calorie, not full of fat but lots of protein would be good, and
    > while we're at it, well rounded with veggies high in antioxidants. A soup
    > that can be blended fine but still taste good. The foods that cause distress
    > are high fat and anything he has to chew. Can only eat about 2 oz at a
    > time. My dad.


    Cheryl,

    Look up "Calves foot Jelly" on the 'net. I use it a lot for dad.
    He loves it and I can pack it with just about any veggie I want him to
    have that week in the bottom layer. :-)

    Lately I've been using pork hocks to make it instead of calves feet.
    They are easier to deal with and jell nicely...

    I also have been fortifying it lately with Vionate. It's a powdered
    vitamin and mineral supplement that is not flavored.
    --
    Peace! Om

    "Any ship can be a minesweepter. Once." -- Anonymous

  20. #20
    Janet Bostwick Guest

    Default Re: Need REC ideas

    Janet Wilder wrote:
    > Cheryl wrote:
    >> Must be high calorie, not full of fat but lots of protein would be
    >> good, and while we're at it, well rounded with veggies high in
    >> antioxidants. A soup that can be blended fine but still taste good.
    >> The foods that cause distress are high fat and anything he has to
    >> chew. Can only eat about 2 oz at a time. My dad.
    >>

    >
    > Cheryl,
    >
    > I was in that situation two years ago. I lived (literally) on High
    > Protein Boost at room temperature. It was easy to digest and went down
    > easily, too. I would often spend 30 to 40 minutes on one bottle,
    > sipping little bits at a time.
    >
    > The stuff saved my life. I would have died of starvation without it.
    > It was the only nutrition I could take for 3 months.


    Ah, the old 24/7 Nibble and Sip Diet -- I am familiar with that one. But we
    made it! ;o}
    Janet



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