Thread: MEAT GRINDERS

On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:44:19 -0700, <RJ> wrote:

> Grinding anything besides meat ?

You mean, like neighbors and their pets?

(I have new neighbors with 3 little yapping dogs. I know the little
bitch is named 'sf')

-sw

On 9/11/2010 10:44 PM, <RJ> wrote:
>
> A few months ago there was a flurry of interest re;
> kitchen meat grinders.
>
> Any new owners ?
> Grinding anything besides meat ?
> Primarily sausages ?
>
> I just splurged four bucks on a RIVAL meat grinder
> that I found at a rummage sale.
>
> First observation; "Where will I store the damn thing?"
>
> My first experiment will be "once ground chuck" for chili.....
>
>

I ground fish in mine to make gefilte fish for the new year holidy.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Sep 11, 11:44*pm, "<RJ>" <baran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A few months ago there was a flurry of interest re;
> * kitchen meat grinders.
>
> Any new owners ? *
> Grinding anything besides meat ?
> Primarily sausages ?
>
> I just splurged four bucks on a RIVAL meat grinder
> that I found at a rummage sale.
>
> First observation; *"Where will I store the damn thing?"
>
> My first experiment will be "once ground chuck" for chili.....

Always wondered if the grinder attachment for the Kitchenaid was as
good - less space needed for storage.

Can some do grains also, maybe?

Kris

On 9/12/2010 12:33 PM, Kris wrote:
> On Sep 11, 11:44 pm, "<RJ>"<baran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> A few months ago there was a flurry of interest re;
>> kitchen meat grinders.
>>
>> Any new owners ?
>> Grinding anything besides meat ?
>> Primarily sausages ?
>>
>> I just splurged four bucks on a RIVAL meat grinder
>> that I found at a rummage sale.
>>
>> First observation; "Where will I store the damn thing?"
>>
>> My first experiment will be "once ground chuck" for chili.....
>
> Always wondered if the grinder attachment for the Kitchenaid was as
> good - less space needed for storage.
>
> Can some do grains also, maybe?
>
> Kris

That's what I am using. I find it quite adequate for our needs. I don't
think it would hold up to grinding 50 pounds of meat at one time, but
for us (2 people) it works fine.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:33:14 -0700 (PDT), Kris wrote:

> On Sep 11, 11:44*pm, "<RJ>" <baran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> A few months ago there was a flurry of interest re;
>> * kitchen meat grinders.
>>
>> Any new owners ? *
>> Grinding anything besides meat ?
>> Primarily sausages ?
>>
>> I just splurged four bucks on a RIVAL meat grinder
>> that I found at a rummage sale.
>>
>> First observation; *"Where will I store the damn thing?"
>>
>> My first experiment will be "once ground chuck" for chili.....
>
> Always wondered if the grinder attachment for the Kitchenaid was as
> good - less space needed for storage.

Yes. It is just fine for grinding 2-10 lbs of meat at a time. It's
the only thing I use my Kitchenaid for.

-sw

On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:33:14 -0700 (PDT), Kris <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Always wondered if the grinder attachment for the Kitchenaid was as
>good - less space needed for storage.

I have one, and it does fine for things like hamburger and meat loaf.

The problem for me was that I wanted a much coarser grind for chili,
and the Kitchen Aid attachment doesn't take standard sized plates and
blades.

So I bought a Maverick grinder that takes standard #8 plates from
Pleasant Hill Grain
(http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/mav...ders_food.aspx).

I've also found a blade with only two blade arms; along with a plate
with half-inch holes, it cranks out a nice coarse grind, 12 pounds at
a time, for my home poker game.

I highly recommend the Maverick. IMO, it's the best you can get under
$150.

-- Larry

On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:56:07 -0400, [email protected] wrote:

> The problem for me was that I wanted a much coarser grind for chili,
> and the Kitchen Aid attachment doesn't take standard sized plates and
> blades.

I find myself using the large holed plate for everything. One grind
only. I do wish there was one for a coarser grind. It really does
limit it's use and I';m surprised they don't offer one.

On the plus side, they are nicely machines stainless steel. No need
to oil. No rust.

-sw

On Sep 12, 4:46*pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:33:14 -0700 (PDT), Kris wrote:
> > On Sep 11, 11:44*pm, "<RJ>" <baran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> A few months ago there was a flurry of interest re;
> >> * kitchen meat grinders.
>
> >> Any new owners ? *
> >> Grinding anything besides meat ?
> >> Primarily sausages ?
>
> >> I just splurged four bucks on a RIVAL meat grinder
> >> that I found at a rummage sale.
>
> >> First observation; *"Where will I store the damn thing?"
>
> >> My first experiment will be "once ground chuck" for chili.....
>
> > Always wondered if the grinder attachment for the Kitchenaid was as
> > good - less space needed for storage.
>
> Yes. *It is just fine for grinding 2-10 lbs of meat at a time. *It's
> the only thing I use my Kitchenaid for.
>
> -sw- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

<chuckle> Nothing else? My kids would leave me if I didn't use mine
for more, like cookie dough, pumpkin bread, etc.

Good to know it's a good attachment though, as I've always flirted
with getting one. But then I'd have to have the sausage stuffing one
too.

Kris

On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:00:35 -0500, Janet Wilder
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 9/12/2010 12:33 PM, Kris wrote:
>> On Sep 11, 11:44 pm, "<RJ>"<baran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> A few months ago there was a flurry of interest re;
>>> kitchen meat grinders.
>>>
>>> Any new owners ?
>>> Grinding anything besides meat ?
>>> Primarily sausages ?
>>>
>>> I just splurged four bucks on a RIVAL meat grinder
>>> that I found at a rummage sale.
>>>
>>> First observation; "Where will I store the damn thing?"
>>>
>>> My first experiment will be "once ground chuck" for chili.....
>>
>> Always wondered if the grinder attachment for the Kitchenaid was as
>> good - less space needed for storage.
>>
>> Can some do grains also, maybe?
>>
>> Kris
>
>That's what I am using. I find it quite adequate for our needs. I don't
>think it would hold up to grinding 50 pounds of meat at one time, but
>for us (2 people) it works fine.

Those small grinders will grind ~3 pounds of meat per minute, no
reason it can't handle 50 pounds... it'll grind meat faster than you
can handle it... takes much more time to prep the meat for grinding
and to package the meat for storage than to grind... grinding is the
least of it. It's like sex; an hour of foreplay and an hour to wind
down and recoup... the actual grinding takes 2 minutes. LOL

"Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4ab6h7t0iikm$.[email protected]..
> On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:56:07 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> The problem for me was that I wanted a much coarser grind for chili,
>> and the Kitchen Aid attachment doesn't take standard sized plates and
>> blades.
>
> I find myself using the large holed plate for everything. One grind
> only. I do wish there was one for a coarser grind. It really does
> limit it's use and I';m surprised they don't offer one.
>
>
> -sw

Could you get one fabricated at a machine shop?

On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:45:21 -0700 (PDT), Kris wrote:

> On Sep 12, 4:46*pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
>
>> Yes. *It is just fine for grinding 2-10 lbs of meat at a time. *It's
>> the only thing I use my Kitchenaid for.
>
> <chuckle> Nothing else? My kids would leave me if I didn't use mine
> for more, like cookie dough, pumpkin bread, etc.
>
> Good to know it's a good attachment though, as I've always flirted
> with getting one. But then I'd have to have the sausage stuffing one
> too.

I think I got the extra sausage stuffers for $10. The grinder
attachment for $40. If you already have the KA and want a
light-medium duty grinder, buying the KA attachment is a no-brainer in
my opinion.

-sw

On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 00:02:21 -0400, Lionel Hutz, Esq. wrote:

> "Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:4ab6h7t0iikm$.[email protected]..
>> On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:56:07 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> The problem for me was that I wanted a much coarser grind for chili,
>>> and the Kitchen Aid attachment doesn't take standard sized plates and
>>> blades.
>>
>> I find myself using the large holed plate for everything. One grind
>> only. I do wish there was one for a coarser grind. It really does
>> limit it's use and I';m surprised they don't offer one.
>
> Could you get one fabricated at a machine shop?

I thought about it. It has to be a perfectly flat precision grind as
the blade fits flush up against it. Flusher than I've seen any other
grinder do so - that where it gets most of it's cutting power from
that tight fit. Any imperfection would screw your blade. Must be
stainless steel.

-sw

On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:49:40 -0700, Brookilyn1 wrote:

>.... Larger grinder plates are
>readily available with kidney shaped openings that are specifically
>configured for extra coarse grind.
>http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/p...roducts_id/627

Well, readily if you've got a commercial #22 grinder (3-1/4 inch
throat). 8

The problem in drilling out a KA plate is that it's so small that the
holes would overlap. This isn't a proble for grinding the meat, but it
makes the actual drilling more difficult.

-- Larry

On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 00:02:21 -0400, "Lionel Hutz, Esq." <lh@dsh[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
>"Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:4ab6h7t0iikm$.[email protected]..
>> On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:56:07 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> The problem for me was that I wanted a much coarser grind for chili,
>>> and the Kitchen Aid attachment doesn't take standard sized plates and
>>> blades.
>>
>> I find myself using the large holed plate for everything. One grind
>> only. I do wish there was one for a coarser grind. It really does
>> limit it's use and I';m surprised they don't offer one.
>>
>>
>> -sw
>
>Could you get one fabricated at a machine shop?

A single custom made grinder plate would cost more to fabricate from
scratch than a dozen KA stand mixers. It would be far less costly to
have the shop elongate the holes on an existing stainless steel plate
but would still cost a couple-three hours shop time...would be cheaper
to buy a real grinder. There is absolutely no reason that grinder
plate holes need to be round... were someone handy with a jeweler's
coping saw and jeweler's files it's a rather simple DIY project... the
grade of stainless steel used for grinder plates is easily machinable,
not so for hardened carbon steel plates. Larger grinder plates are
readily available with kidney shaped openings that are specifically
configured for extra coarse grind.
http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/p...roducts_id/627

In article <[email protected]>,
"Ophelia" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Brookilyn1" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]..
> > http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/p...roducts_id/627
> >
>
> "This 3-hole plate is used to make large chunks of meat such as stew meat or
> chum"
>
> Um.. in UK Chum is dog food)

Nothing that fancy here. From my US dictionary:

chum 2
noun
chopped fish, fish fluids, and other material thrown overboard as
angling bait.
€ refuse from fish, esp. that remaining after expressing oil.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email protected]

"Dan Abel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Ophelia" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Brookilyn1" wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]..
>> > http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/p...roducts_id/627
>> >
>>
>> "This 3-hole plate is used to make large chunks of meat such as stew meat
>> or
>> chum"
>>
>> Um.. in UK Chum is dog food)
>
> Nothing that fancy here. From my US dictionary:
>
> chum 2
> noun
> chopped fish, fish fluids, and other material thrown overboard as
> angling bait.
> ? refuse from fish, esp. that remaining after expressing oil.

Ohh OK Thanks

--
--
https://www.shop.helpforheroes.org.uk/

On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:09:38 GMT, notbob wrote:

> On 2010-09-13, Brookilyn1 <Brookilyn1> wrote:
>>
>> A single custom made grinder plate would cost more to fabricate from
>> scratch than a dozen KA stand mixers. It would be far less costly to
>> have the shop elongate the holes on an existing stainless steel plate
>> but would still cost a couple-three hours shop time...would be cheaper
>> to buy a real grinder.
>
> What he said.

Not true at all. I could do this at work on the CNC with the cost of
actual labor being about $40, that includes the programming but not he
measuring. I've never worked with this material so I have no idea
what the material costs would be to do them in bulk. But for myself,
I could easily get a 3" square sample for free from the vendors.

-sw

"Larrrwy" [email protected] wrote:

>Brookilyn1 wrote:
>
>>.... Larger grinder plates are
>>readily available with kidney shaped openings that are specifically
>>configured for extra coarse grind.
>>http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/p...roducts_id/627
>
>Well, readily if you've got a commercial #22 grinder (3-1/4 inch
>throat). 8
>
>The problem in drilling out a KA plate is that it's so small that the
>holes would overlap. This isn't a proble for grinding the meat, but it
>makes the actual drilling more difficult.
>
>-- Larrrwy

Obviously you're not mechanically inclined, Larrrrwy.

On 2010-09-13, Sqwertz <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not true at all. I could do this at work on the CNC with the cost of
> actual labor being about $40.....

The real costs in actual labor and what you will be charged are two
different things.

> measuring. I've never worked with this material so I have no idea
> what the material costs would be to do them in bulk. But for myself,
> I could easily get a 3" square sample for free from the vendors.

You keep saying "I could", but shelly is responding to your previous
post where you asked what would it cost from a business. Night and
day.

nb