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    Nunya Bidnits Guest

    Default McRib - It Gets Worse

    McRib controversy: The pork supplier's 'hellish' methods:

    http://news.yahoo.com/mcrib-controve...111600235.html



  2. #2
    dsi1 Guest

    Default Re: McRib - It Gets Worse

    On 11/8/2011 3:02 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    > McRib controversy: The pork supplier's 'hellish' methods:
    >
    > http://news.yahoo.com/mcrib-controve...111600235.html
    >
    >


    The reality is that any animal raised to be slaughtered and eaten won't
    have a wonderful life. Hellish methods of raising meat was around long
    before McRibs or McNuggets, or Big Macs existed. If McDonalds did not
    exist, it would still be hell to pay to be a chicken or pig or cow.

  3. #3
    pavane Guest

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    "dsi1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:j9cl1c$bvq$[email protected]..
    > On 11/8/2011 3:02 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >> McRib controversy: The pork supplier's 'hellish' methods:
    >>
    >> http://news.yahoo.com/mcrib-controve...111600235.html
    >>
    >>

    >
    > The reality is that any animal raised to be slaughtered and eaten won't
    > have a wonderful life. Hellish methods of raising meat was around long
    > before McRibs or McNuggets, or Big Macs existed. If McDonalds did not
    > exist, it would still be hell to pay to be a chicken or pig or cow.


    Of course it is hell. And the hellish methods were around long ago.
    The trick is to try to modify what we inherited, mollify the obvious
    cruelty and see whether more humane methods exist and can be
    used in a mass extinction mode.

    Remember that 250 years ago it was "...hell to pay to be a chicken or
    pig or cow..." or person of African birth transported to Western slavery.
    Things can change, we must be aware and try to effect the changes.

    pavane



  4. #4
    dsi1 Guest

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    On 11/8/2011 4:41 PM, pavane wrote:
    > "dsi1"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:j9cl1c$bvq$[email protected]..
    >> On 11/8/2011 3:02 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >>> McRib controversy: The pork supplier's 'hellish' methods:
    >>>
    >>> http://news.yahoo.com/mcrib-controve...111600235.html
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> The reality is that any animal raised to be slaughtered and eaten won't
    >> have a wonderful life. Hellish methods of raising meat was around long
    >> before McRibs or McNuggets, or Big Macs existed. If McDonalds did not
    >> exist, it would still be hell to pay to be a chicken or pig or cow.

    >
    > Of course it is hell. And the hellish methods were around long ago.
    > The trick is to try to modify what we inherited, mollify the obvious
    > cruelty and see whether more humane methods exist and can be
    > used in a mass extinction mode.
    >
    > Remember that 250 years ago it was "...hell to pay to be a chicken or
    > pig or cow..." or person of African birth transported to Western slavery.
    > Things can change, we must be aware and try to effect the changes.


    Things changing is fine with me. I just don't think we should blame a
    barbeque pork sandwich for a meat hell.

    >
    > pavane
    >
    >



  5. #5
    John Kuthe Guest

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    On Nov 8, 9:13*pm, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
    > On 11/8/2011 4:41 PM, pavane wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > > "dsi1"<d...@eternal-september.invalid> *wrote in message
    > >news:j9cl1c$bvq$[email protected]..
    > >> On 11/8/2011 3:02 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    > >>> McRib controversy: The pork supplier's 'hellish' methods:

    >
    > >>>http://news.yahoo.com/mcrib-controve...ellish-methods....

    >
    > >> The reality is that any animal raised to be slaughtered and eaten won't
    > >> have a wonderful life. Hellish methods of raising meat was around long
    > >> before McRibs or McNuggets, or Big Macs existed. If McDonalds did not
    > >> exist, it would still be hell to pay to be a chicken or pig or cow.

    >
    > > Of course it is hell. *And the hellish methods were around long ago.
    > > The trick is to try to modify what we inherited, mollify the obvious
    > > cruelty and see whether more humane methods exist and can be
    > > used in a mass extinction mode.

    >
    > > Remember that 250 years ago it was "...hell to pay to be a chicken or
    > > pig or cow..." or person of African birth transported to Western slavery.
    > > Things can change, we must be aware and try to effect the changes.

    >
    > Things changing is fine with me. I just don't think we should blame a
    > barbeque pork sandwich for a meat hell.
    >
    >
    >
    > > pavane


    A McRib is NOT a barbeque pork sandwich though. It's a well processed
    hunk of pigmeat slathered in a sweet sauce sandwich! There's nothing
    BBQ about it!

    John Kuthe...

  6. #6
    Cheryl Guest

    Default Re: McRib - It Gets Worse

    On 11/8/2011 9:41 PM, pavane wrote:
    > "dsi1"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:j9cl1c$bvq$[email protected]..
    >> On 11/8/2011 3:02 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >>> McRib controversy: The pork supplier's 'hellish' methods:
    >>>
    >>> http://news.yahoo.com/mcrib-controve...111600235.html
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> The reality is that any animal raised to be slaughtered and eaten won't
    >> have a wonderful life. Hellish methods of raising meat was around long
    >> before McRibs or McNuggets, or Big Macs existed. If McDonalds did not
    >> exist, it would still be hell to pay to be a chicken or pig or cow.

    >
    > Of course it is hell. And the hellish methods were around long ago.
    > The trick is to try to modify what we inherited, mollify the obvious
    > cruelty and see whether more humane methods exist and can be
    > used in a mass extinction mode.
    >
    > Remember that 250 years ago it was "...hell to pay to be a chicken or
    > pig or cow..." or person of African birth transported to Western slavery.
    > Things can change, we must be aware and try to effect the changes.


    Well said!! Some of us might still eat meat, but we should have evolved
    enough by now to not cause suffering for it. Just like I hope we
    wouldn't invade a civilization and enslave the inhabitants. No
    different IMO. I'm sure someone will correct me and say I'm wrong about
    slavery in this day and age, and I wouldn't be surprised by it.
    Enraged? Yes. Surprised, no.

    Babbling.



  7. #7
    Miche Guest

    Default Re: McRib - It Gets Worse

    In article <j9cl1c$bvq$[email protected]>,
    dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 11/8/2011 3:02 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    > > McRib controversy: The pork supplier's 'hellish' methods:
    > >
    > > http://news.yahoo.com/mcrib-controve...methods-111600
    > > 235.html
    > >
    > >

    >
    > The reality is that any animal raised to be slaughtered and eaten won't
    > have a wonderful life.


    Not everywhere.

    Miche

    --
    Electricians do it in three phases

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    Paul M. Cook Guest

    Default Re: McRib - It Gets Worse


    "dsi1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:j9cl1c$bvq$1@do[email protected]..
    > On 11/8/2011 3:02 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >> McRib controversy: The pork supplier's 'hellish' methods:
    >>
    >> http://news.yahoo.com/mcrib-controve...111600235.html
    >>
    >>

    >
    > The reality is that any animal raised to be slaughtered and eaten won't
    > have a wonderful life. Hellish methods of raising meat was around long
    > before McRibs or McNuggets, or Big Macs existed. If McDonalds did not
    > exist, it would still be hell to pay to be a chicken or pig or cow.


    We can make our own reality and just because it was common at one time does
    not mean it has to be now. There really is no reason why animals for
    slaughter should be made to suffer. It does nothing for the bottom line to
    not abuse them, or to not deny them water or to humanely euthanize them.
    Kindness costs nothing and it is a moral obligation if we are to raise
    animals for food.

    Paul



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    Paul M. Cook Guest

    Default Re: McRib - It Gets Worse


    "dsi1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4eb9efd9$0$10947$[email protected]..
    > On 11/8/2011 4:41 PM, pavane wrote:
    >> "dsi1"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:j9cl1c$bvq$[email protected]..
    >>> On 11/8/2011 3:02 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >>>> McRib controversy: The pork supplier's 'hellish' methods:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://news.yahoo.com/mcrib-controve...111600235.html
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> The reality is that any animal raised to be slaughtered and eaten won't
    >>> have a wonderful life. Hellish methods of raising meat was around long
    >>> before McRibs or McNuggets, or Big Macs existed. If McDonalds did not
    >>> exist, it would still be hell to pay to be a chicken or pig or cow.

    >>
    >> Of course it is hell. And the hellish methods were around long ago.
    >> The trick is to try to modify what we inherited, mollify the obvious
    >> cruelty and see whether more humane methods exist and can be
    >> used in a mass extinction mode.
    >>
    >> Remember that 250 years ago it was "...hell to pay to be a chicken or
    >> pig or cow..." or person of African birth transported to Western slavery.
    >> Things can change, we must be aware and try to effect the changes.

    >
    > Things changing is fine with me. I just don't think we should blame a
    > barbeque pork sandwich for a meat hell.



    All sandwiches are innocent. It's the people making them that are the
    problem. You'd wonder after all this why McDonalds has not learned a lesson
    after being the subject of innumerable public boycotts and protestations
    about the way they do business. Compliance is always cheaper yet they cut
    corners at every turn just because they think they not only can but should.

    Paul



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    meh Guest

    Default Re: McRib - It Gets Worse

    On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 19:25:15 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >A McRib is NOT a barbeque pork sandwich though. It's a well processed
    >hunk of pigmeat slathered in a sweet sauce sandwich! There's nothing
    >BBQ about it!


    One mans BBQ is another mans mildly-tomato-based watery semi-sauce.









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    dsi1 Guest

    Default Re: McRib - It Gets Worse

    On 11/8/2011 7:04 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
    > We can make our own reality and just because it was common at one time does
    > not mean it has to be now. There really is no reason why animals for
    > slaughter should be made to suffer. It does nothing for the bottom line to
    > not abuse them, or to not deny them water or to humanely euthanize them.
    > Kindness costs nothing and it is a moral obligation if we are to raise
    > animals for food.
    >
    > Paul


    I like that idea, it's a lot kinder to euthanize animals rather than
    slaughter them. Here's Dr. Temple Grandin:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoNErsJNPzw



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    dsi1 Guest

    Default Re: McRib - It Gets Worse

    On 11/8/2011 7:09 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
    > "dsi1"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:4eb9efd9$0$10947$[email protected]..
    >> On 11/8/2011 4:41 PM, pavane wrote:
    >>> "dsi1"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:j9cl1c$bvq$[email protected]..
    >>>> On 11/8/2011 3:02 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >>>>> McRib controversy: The pork supplier's 'hellish' methods:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/mcrib-controve...111600235.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> The reality is that any animal raised to be slaughtered and eaten won't
    >>>> have a wonderful life. Hellish methods of raising meat was around long
    >>>> before McRibs or McNuggets, or Big Macs existed. If McDonalds did not
    >>>> exist, it would still be hell to pay to be a chicken or pig or cow.
    >>>
    >>> Of course it is hell. And the hellish methods were around long ago.
    >>> The trick is to try to modify what we inherited, mollify the obvious
    >>> cruelty and see whether more humane methods exist and can be
    >>> used in a mass extinction mode.
    >>>
    >>> Remember that 250 years ago it was "...hell to pay to be a chicken or
    >>> pig or cow..." or person of African birth transported to Western slavery.
    >>> Things can change, we must be aware and try to effect the changes.

    >>
    >> Things changing is fine with me. I just don't think we should blame a
    >> barbeque pork sandwich for a meat hell.

    >
    >
    > All sandwiches are innocent. It's the people making them that are the
    > problem. You'd wonder after all this why McDonalds has not learned a lesson
    > after being the subject of innumerable public boycotts and protestations
    > about the way they do business. Compliance is always cheaper yet they cut
    > corners at every turn just because they think they not only can but should.
    >
    > Paul


    Seems like it would make more sense to blame the real culprit. If I
    purchase a Smithfield ham does this make me guilty of animal
    mistreatment and handling too? I hope not cause I could sure go for a
    ham and cheese sandwich right about now.

    http://www.smithfield.com/products/


    Yum!

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    John Kuthe Guest

    Default Re: McRib - It Gets Worse

    On Nov 9, 12:04*am, meh <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
    > On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 19:25:15 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe <johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > >A McRib is NOT a barbeque pork sandwich though. It's a well processed
    > >hunk of pigmeat slathered in a sweet sauce sandwich! There's nothing
    > >BBQ about it!

    >
    > One mans BBQ is another mans mildly-tomato-based watery semi-sauce.


    Barbecuing is a cooking method, not a sauce. Smoking is perhaps the
    best method of barbecuing, with judicious charring by flames adding
    beneficially to the cooking method of barbecuing.

    Marinades and sauces are different.

    John Kuthe...

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    Bryan Guest

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    On Nov 8, 11:09*pm, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
    > "dsi1" <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote in message
    >
    > news:4eb9efd9$0$10947$[email protected]..
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On 11/8/2011 4:41 PM, pavane wrote:
    > >> "dsi1"<d...@eternal-september.invalid> *wrote in message
    > >>news:j9cl1c$bvq$[email protected]..
    > >>> On 11/8/2011 3:02 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    > >>>> McRib controversy: The pork supplier's 'hellish' methods:

    >
    > >>>>http://news.yahoo.com/mcrib-controve...ellish-methods....

    >
    > >>> The reality is that any animal raised to be slaughtered and eaten won't
    > >>> have a wonderful life. Hellish methods of raising meat was around long
    > >>> before McRibs or McNuggets, or Big Macs existed. If McDonalds did not
    > >>> exist, it would still be hell to pay to be a chicken or pig or cow.

    >
    > >> Of course it is hell. *And the hellish methods were around long ago.
    > >> The trick is to try to modify what we inherited, mollify the obvious
    > >> cruelty and see whether more humane methods exist and can be
    > >> used in a mass extinction mode.

    >
    > >> Remember that 250 years ago it was "...hell to pay to be a chicken or
    > >> pig or cow..." or person of African birth transported to Western slavery.
    > >> Things can change, we must be aware and try to effect the changes.

    >
    > > Things changing is fine with me. I just don't think we should blame a
    > > barbeque pork sandwich for a meat hell.

    >
    > All sandwiches are innocent. *It's the people making them that are the
    > problem. *You'd wonder after all this why McDonalds has not learned a lesson
    > after being the subject of innumerable public boycotts and protestations
    > about the way they do business. *Compliance is always cheaper yet they cut
    > corners at every turn just because they think they not only can but should.


    Has Capitalism been given enough rope yet?
    >
    > Paul


    --Bryan

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    Nunya Bidnits Guest

    Default Re: McRib - It Gets Worse

    dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > Things changing is fine with me. I just don't think we should blame a
    > barbeque pork sandwich for a meat hell.


    Where did you get that notion? You have missed the point, or just didn't
    read the article. The point is that McDonalds and Smithfield are lying to
    the public about such conditions and McDonalds even gave Smithfield an
    award.

    Here, since you missed it:

    "But what makes these allegations particularly "appalling" is that
    Smithfield claims their animals are raised under "ideal" conditions, says
    Joyce Chen of New York Daily News. The Humane Society is accusing the food
    suppliers of "misleading its consumers," notably through a series of
    PR-friendly videos called "Taking the Mystery out of Pork Production."
    Meanwhile, McDonald's recently recognized the farm for its commitment to
    animal care, even bestowing Smithfield with a "supplier sustainability"
    award. "

    Joyce Chen cite:
    http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AtHTCE4...ticle-1.972107

    If the link doesn't work you could always bother yourself to read the
    article before commenting.

    MartyB



  16. #16
    A Moose in Love Guest

    Default Re: McRib - It Gets Worse

    On Nov 8, 9:41*pm, "pavane" <pav...@leisure.org> wrote:
    > "dsi1" <d...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
    >
    > news:j9cl1c$bvq$[email protected]..
    >
    > > On 11/8/2011 3:02 PM, NunyaBidnits wrote:
    > >> McRib controversy: The pork supplier's 'hellish' methods:

    >
    > >>http://news.yahoo.com/mcrib-controve...ellish-methods....

    >
    > > The reality is thatanyanimal raised to be slaughteredand eaten won't> haveawonderful life. Hellish methods of raising meat wasaround long> before McRibs or McNuggets, or Big Macs existed. If McDonalds did not> exist, it would still be hell to pay to beachicken or pig or cow.

    >
    > Of course it is hell.*And the hellish methods werearound longago.The trick is to try to modify what we inherited, mollify the obviouscrueltyand see whether more humane methods existand can beused inamass extinction mode.
    >
    > Remember that 250 yearsago it was "...hell to pay to beachicken orpig or cow..." or person ofAfrican birth transported to Western slavery.Things canchange, we must beawareand try to effect the changes.
    >
    > pavane


    Slaves from Africa, had a very hellish time crossing the ocean. They
    were placed on slave decks. That is, a group would be placed laying
    down(usually naked), on the floor. Then a wooden deck would be
    slotted in about 24 inches above them. Another group of slaves would
    be laid down on that deck. Then another deck would be slotted
    in...etc. Horrible. I have seen it written that a slaver could be
    smelled from very far away.
    The only thing I do now, to minimize animal cruelty is to purchase
    free run, or free range eggs. It's difficult to buy humanely raised/
    slaughtered meat. I wish there would be more of these meats at the
    local market.

  17. #17
    dsi1 Guest

    Default Re: McRib - It Gets Worse

    On 11/9/2011 4:29 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    > dsi1<[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> Things changing is fine with me. I just don't think we should blame a
    >> barbeque pork sandwich for a meat hell.

    >
    > Where did you get that notion? You have missed the point, or just didn't
    > read the article. The point is that McDonalds and Smithfield are lying to
    > the public about such conditions and McDonalds even gave Smithfield an
    > award.


    I don't see the part where McDonalds is lying to the public. If you're
    saying there's a conspiracy, where's the proof? The article certainly
    implies that there's a conspiracy but doesn't really so any wrongdoing
    on M's part. Do you think that because they gave Smithfield an award,
    that they're mistreating animals? How does that work? It's a pretty lame
    article. The headline is strictly for suckers.

    >
    > Here, since you missed it:
    >
    > "But what makes these allegations particularly "appalling" is that
    > Smithfield claims their animals are raised under "ideal" conditions, says
    > Joyce Chen of New York Daily News. The Humane Society is accusing the food
    > suppliers of "misleading its consumers," notably through a series of
    > PR-friendly videos called "Taking the Mystery out of Pork Production."
    > Meanwhile, McDonald's recently recognized the farm for its commitment to
    > animal care, even bestowing Smithfield with a "supplier sustainability"
    > award. "
    >
    > Joyce Chen cite:
    > http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AtHTCE4...ticle-1.972107
    >
    > If the link doesn't work you could always bother yourself to read the
    > article before commenting.


    My guess is that you should read it too. Both articles say that
    Simthfield is responsible for poor treatment of animals, McDonalds and
    it's pork sandwich are not.

    >
    > MartyB
    >
    >



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    Nunya Bidnits Guest

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    dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On 11/9/2011 4:29 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    >> dsi1<[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Things changing is fine with me. I just don't think we should blame
    >>> a barbeque pork sandwich for a meat hell.

    >>
    >> Where did you get that notion? You have missed the point, or just
    >> didn't read the article. The point is that McDonalds and Smithfield
    >> are lying to the public about such conditions and McDonalds even
    >> gave Smithfield an award.

    >
    > I don't see the part where McDonalds is lying to the public. If you're
    > saying there's a conspiracy, where's the proof? The article certainly
    > implies that there's a conspiracy but doesn't really so any wrongdoing
    > on M's part. Do you think that because they gave Smithfield an award,
    > that they're mistreating animals? How does that work? It's a pretty
    > lame article. The headline is strictly for suckers.
    >
    >>
    >> Here, since you missed it:
    >>
    >> "But what makes these allegations particularly "appalling" is that
    >> Smithfield claims their animals are raised under "ideal" conditions,
    >> says Joyce Chen of New York Daily News. The Humane Society is
    >> accusing the food suppliers of "misleading its consumers," notably
    >> through a series of PR-friendly videos called "Taking the Mystery
    >> out of Pork Production." Meanwhile, McDonald's recently recognized
    >> the farm for its commitment to animal care, even bestowing
    >> Smithfield with a "supplier sustainability" award. "
    >>
    >> Joyce Chen cite:
    >> http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AtHTCE4...ticle-1.972107
    >>
    >> If the link doesn't work you could always bother yourself to read the
    >> article before commenting.

    >
    > My guess is that you should read it too. Both articles say that
    > Simthfield is responsible for poor treatment of animals, McDonalds and
    > it's pork sandwich are not.


    Are you really that stupid? Nobody said McDonald's was directly abusing
    animals. They are criticized for covering it up, not doing it.

    Let me try one more time. See if you can grasp this concept. McDonalds
    allegedly inspected these facilities, and has given Smithfield an award and
    touted them as a humane, sustainable processor. Let me help you more. It
    means they are liars, covering up severe animal abuse so as to bring a
    product to market as cheaply as possible.

    Most people find something wrong with that. You, OTOH, may still not even
    understand the point, or you've decided to pretend you can't so as to be
    deliberately obtuse and annoying.

    MartyB



  19. #19
    dsi1 Guest

    Default Re: McRib - It Gets Worse

    On 11/9/2011 8:07 AM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
    > Are you really that stupid? Nobody said McDonald's was directly abusing
    > animals. They are criticized for covering it up, not doing it.
    >
    > Let me try one more time. See if you can grasp this concept. McDonalds
    > allegedly inspected these facilities, and has given Smithfield an award and
    > touted them as a humane, sustainable processor. Let me help you more. It
    > means they are liars, covering up severe animal abuse so as to bring a
    > product to market as cheaply as possible.
    >
    > Most people find something wrong with that. You, OTOH, may still not even
    > understand the point, or you've decided to pretend you can't so as to be
    > deliberately obtuse and annoying.
    >
    > MartyB
    >
    >


    People going ga-ga over a pork sandwich is a little hard to comprehend
    but it appears that there's other people that hate this little ole chunk
    of pork slathered with gooey, too-sweet, barbecue sauce and everything
    that it stands for. It's an interesting phenomenon. When did you first
    notice this intense dislike for this sandwich? :-)

  20. #20
    John Kuthe Guest

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    On Nov 9, 12:36*pm, dsi1 <d...@usenet-news.net> wrote:
    ....
    > People going ga-ga over a pork sandwich is a little hard to comprehend
    > but it appears that there's other people that hate this little ole chunk
    > of pork slathered with gooey, too-sweet, barbecue sauce and everything
    > that it stands for. It's an interesting phenomenon. When did you first
    > notice this intense dislike for this sandwich? :-)


    I hate and detest McCraps for everything it is, stands for and is the
    bellwether for. FastFood is crap, pig slop, and I wish it would just
    vanish. And McCraps more than any other business (and their pedophilic
    clown!) have promulgated the horror of FastFood on of all people, our
    CHILDREN!! Look at McCraps' business model and history of marketing!!

    John Kuthe...

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