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    Corey Richardson Guest

    Default McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    A "special" at the moment at McDonalds is the Oriental BBQ Beef burger.

    It comprises of: 100% Beef Patty, cheese, Batavia lettuce, onion, BBQ
    sauce and a split-top seeded bun.

    Forgive me for asking, but what *exactly* is Oriental about that?


  2. #2
    Corey Richardson Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:48:39 -0700, Mark Thorson <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Corey Richardson wrote:
    >>
    >> A "special" at the moment at McDonalds is the Oriental BBQ Beef burger.
    >>
    >> It comprises of: 100% Beef Patty, cheese, Batavia lettuce, onion, BBQ
    >> sauce and a split-top seeded bun.
    >>
    >> Forgive me for asking, but what *exactly* is Oriental about that?

    >
    >There's probably soy sauce in the BBQ sauce.
    >And the seeds on the bun are probably sesame seeds.


    Still not very "Oriental" is it?


  3. #3
    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    Corey Richardson wrote:
    >
    > A "special" at the moment at McDonalds is the Oriental BBQ Beef burger.
    >
    > It comprises of: 100% Beef Patty, cheese, Batavia lettuce, onion, BBQ
    > sauce and a split-top seeded bun.
    >
    > Forgive me for asking, but what *exactly* is Oriental about that?


    There's probably soy sauce in the BBQ sauce.
    And the seeds on the bun are probably sesame seeds.

  4. #4
    Mike........ Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    Following up to Corey Richardson

    > Still not very "Oriental" is it?


    you eat it with chopsticks.
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  5. #5
    aem Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    On Jul 30, 9:09*am, Corey Richardson <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R> wrote:
    > A "special" at the moment at McDonalds is the Oriental BBQ Beef burger.
    > ....
    > Forgive me for asking, but what *exactly* is Oriental about that?


    Just curious....is "Oriental" still widely used in the U.K., rather
    than "asian"? Does it still connote something exotic? -aem


  6. #6
    Corey Richardson Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:49:32 +0100, "Mike........"
    <mikexclo[email protected]> wrote:

    >Following up to Corey Richardson
    >
    >> Still not very "Oriental" is it?

    >
    >you eat it with chopsticks.


    LOL!

  7. #7
    Corey Richardson Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:51:23 -0700 (PDT), aem <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >On Jul 30, 9:09*am, Corey Richardson <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R> wrote:
    >> A "special" at the moment at McDonalds is the Oriental BBQ Beef burger.
    >> ....
    >> Forgive me for asking, but what *exactly* is Oriental about that?

    >
    >Just curious....is "Oriental" still widely used in the U.K., rather
    >than "asian"? Does it still connote something exotic? -aem


    AFAIC, "Oriental" means Chinese/Japanese and "Asian" is
    Indian/Pakistani.


  8. #8
    Tracy Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    Corey Richardson wrote:
    > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:51:23 -0700 (PDT), aem <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> On Jul 30, 9:09 am, Corey Richardson <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R> wrote:
    >>> A "special" at the moment at McDonalds is the Oriental BBQ Beef burger.
    >>> ....
    >>> Forgive me for asking, but what *exactly* is Oriental about that?

    >> Just curious....is "Oriental" still widely used in the U.K., rather
    >> than "asian"? Does it still connote something exotic? -aem

    >
    > AFAIC, "Oriental" means Chinese/Japanese and "Asian" is
    > Indian/Pakistani.
    >


    I thought carpets/rugs were "Oriental" and people were "Asian". I don't
    think my Japanese SIL likes to be called an Oriental.

    -tracy

  9. #9
    sf Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:01:04 +0100, Corey Richardson
    <KB^[email protected]`R> wrote:

    >On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:51:23 -0700 (PDT), aem <[email protected]>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>On Jul 30, 9:09*am, Corey Richardson <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R> wrote:
    >>> A "special" at the moment at McDonalds is the Oriental BBQ Beef burger.
    >>> ....
    >>> Forgive me for asking, but what *exactly* is Oriental about that?

    >>
    >>Just curious....is "Oriental" still widely used in the U.K., rather
    >>than "asian"? Does it still connote something exotic? -aem

    >
    >AFAIC, "Oriental" means Chinese/Japanese and "Asian" is
    >Indian/Pakistani.


    Switch the terms and that's my connotation

    Oriental = India and the "stans"
    Asian = Far East

    What's Oriental about a BBQ Beef burger is beyond me.


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    Mike........ Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    Following up to Tracy

    > riental" and people were "Asian". I don't
    > think my Japanese SIL likes to be called an Oriental.


    the UK census seperates "Asian" from "Chinese", so I assume we replace
    "oriental" with "chinese", didnt realise oriental was defamatory, does
    every racial word become an insult over time?
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  11. #11
    sf Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:14:12 -0400, Tracy <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I thought carpets/rugs were "Oriental" and people were "Asian". I don't
    >think my Japanese SIL likes to be called an Oriental.


    Rugs from China are called Chinese rugs. You know what Persian rugs
    are - the area is debatable, but centers in Iran. Rugs from India and
    the surrounding areas are called Oriental, but tagged by country of
    origin.

    The people of Asia are called Asians as a whole or identified
    individually by their country of origin (if you know it). I'm an
    American first, a North American second, "of European ancestry" a
    distant third.

    I don't blame your SIL. Calling people Orientals reeks old fashioned
    Colonial attitude.

    Just my 2


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    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    Corey Richardson wrote:
    >
    > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:51:23 -0700 (PDT), aem <aem_again@yahoo.co[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Just curious....is "Oriental" still widely used in the U.K., rather
    > >than "asian"? Does it still connote something exotic? -aem

    >
    > AFAIC, "Oriental" means Chinese/Japanese and "Asian" is
    > Indian/Pakistani.


    In the UK, "Europe" begins on the other side
    of the English channel. But in the US,
    we consider the UK to be part of Europe.
    So we aren't likely to look to them for
    geography lessons.

  13. #13
    Mike........ Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    Following up to Mark Thorson

    > In the UK, "Europe" begins on the other side
    > of the English channel.


    no, *continental* europe does. *some* people talk of "europe" that way,
    meaning the operation of the EU, if they dislike it, but generally thats a
    50 years out of date view.

    >But in the US,
    > we consider the UK to be part of Europe.


    So do we, although we are of course an archipelego or whatever off the
    coast.
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    Corey Richardson Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:48:39 -0700, Mark Thorson <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Corey Richardson wrote:
    >>
    >> A "special" at the moment at McDonalds is the Oriental BBQ Beef burger.
    >>
    >> It comprises of: 100% Beef Patty, cheese, Batavia lettuce, onion, BBQ
    >> sauce and a split-top seeded bun.
    >>
    >> Forgive me for asking, but what *exactly* is Oriental about that?

    >
    >There's probably soy sauce in the BBQ sauce.
    >And the seeds on the bun are probably sesame seeds.


    Ok, I had to try one.

    It's just a burger with slightly oriental tasting BBQ sauce and some
    toasted sesame seeds on the bun.

    I don't know what I expected, but it was a bit meh...


  15. #15
    Corey Richardson Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:42:17 -0700, sf wrote:

    >Calling people Orientals reeks old fashioned
    >Colonial attitude.


    Even the Chinese describe it as Oriental. At the UK's Wing Yip online
    store it's described as "Chinese and Oriental Food Made Easy - Online"

    http://www.wingyipstore.co.uk/

    I think only PC people have a problem with the term "Oriental".


  16. #16
    Mike........ Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    Following up to Mike........

    >>But in the US,
    >> we consider the UK to be part of Europe.

    >
    > So do we, although we are of course an archipelego or whatever off the
    > coast.


    the only person i have heard of who was confused was a US immigration
    official who though Scotland was part of England! Its hard to see what
    other continent you could include the UK with?
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  17. #17
    Tracy Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    sf wrote:
    > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:14:12 -0400, Tracy <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> I thought carpets/rugs were "Oriental" and people were "Asian". I don't
    >> think my Japanese SIL likes to be called an Oriental.

    >
    > Rugs from China are called Chinese rugs. You know what Persian rugs
    > are - the area is debatable, but centers in Iran. Rugs from India and
    > the surrounding areas are called Oriental, but tagged by country of
    > origin.
    >
    > The people of Asia are called Asians as a whole or identified
    > individually by their country of origin (if you know it). I'm an
    > American first, a North American second, "of European ancestry" a
    > distant third.
    >
    > I don't blame your SIL. Calling people Orientals reeks old fashioned
    > Colonial attitude.
    >
    > Just my 2
    >
    >


    Well that's what I meant. :-)

    I just did a quick wiki search:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_rug

    I have never heard the term "chinese rug" but I have heard "oriental
    rug". Not that wiki is such a great fountain of wisdom but according to
    the article Chinese rugs are Oriental rugs. Whatever. I just think that
    in the US, people are usually not referred to as Oriental. My mother,
    when she was on her death bed in a hospital in Boston's Chinatown said,
    when asked, "do you know where you are"? she replied, "Chinkytown". Not
    kidding. She was slightly delirious from pain killers, but, that was
    totally her. Not the most PC person out there.

    Tracy

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    l, not -l Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK


    On 30-Jul-2008, "Mike........" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > the UK census seperates "Asian" from "Chinese", so I assume we replace
    > "oriental" with "chinese", didnt realise oriental was defamatory, does
    > every racial word become an insult over time?
    > --


    In the US it does.
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    Jerry Sauk Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK


    "Mike........" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > Following up to Mike........
    >
    > >>But in the US,
    > >> we consider the UK to be part of Europe.

    > >
    > > So do we, although we are of course an archipelego or whatever off the
    > > coast.

    >
    > the only person i have heard of who was confused was a US immigration
    > official who though Scotland was part of England! Its hard to see what
    > other continent you could include the UK with?
    > --
    > Mike.....................
    > Google-groups killfiled
    > Remove clothing to email


    This topiv has nothing to do at all with fast-food. Please discontinue
    sross-posting to alt.fast-food please.



  20. #20
    Lynn from Fargo Guest

    Default Re: McDonalds "Oriental BBQ Beef" UK

    On Jul 30, 11:09*am, Corey Richardson <KB...@EbP0V7K.s`R> wrote:
    > A "special" at the moment at McDonalds is the Oriental BBQ Beef burger.
    >
    > It comprises of: 100% Beef Patty, cheese, Batavia lettuce, onion, BBQ
    > sauce and a split-top seeded bun.
    >
    > Forgive me for asking, but what *exactly* is Oriental about that?

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    No option for cheese.

    Lynn in Fargo

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