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  1. #1
    Dimitri Guest

    Default Magic Marketing

    Steamers.

    1. Reduce the frozen vegetable contents per bag from 16 Oz. to 12 Oz.
    2. Place the frozen veggies in a bag made from a plastic that will take
    heat & pressure without exploding.
    3. Develop a catchy name like "Steamers".
    4. Print some inane instructions on the bag like "Hold here" and "be
    careful HOT"
    5. Charge 3 times as much as you did for the 16 Oz package.

    Thus saving the user the trouble of placing frozen veggies in a microwave
    safe dish and covering it with a piece of plastic.

    Baaaaahhhh we're being taken to the slaughter like sheep.

    NEXT TIME - Frozen Pancakes!
    --
    Dimitri

    Chicken Loaf

    http://kitchenguide.wordpress.com.


  2. #2
    rec.food.baking Guest

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    On Apr 5, 9:13*am, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:
    > Baaaaahhhh *we're being taken to the slaughter like sheep.
    >
    > NEXT TIME - Frozen Pancakes!

    Next time? Krusteaz frozen pancakes have been my preference for years
    now. They're worth the extra cost, no-bother factor to me. I only
    want a stack of four, or even just a few pancakes three or four times
    a year. No mixing, no mess to wash up, no spoilage!
    ....Picky

  3. #3
    aem Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing

    On Apr 5, 10:23 am, "rec.food.baking" <Picky...@msn.com> wrote:
    > On Apr 5, 9:13 am, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:> Baaaaahhhh we're being taken to the slaughter like sheep.
    >
    > > NEXT TIME - Frozen Pancakes!

    >
    > Next time? Krusteaz frozen pancakes have been my preference for years
    > now. They're worth the extra cost, no-bother factor to me. I only
    > want a stack of four, or even just a few pancakes three or four times
    > a year. No mixing, no mess to wash up, no spoilage!
    > ...Picky


    Might not work for you since you want them so rarely, but I often have
    the convenience of frozen pancakes. I almost always make more pancake
    batter than we will eat and rather than throw out the excess I cook it
    up, put the extra pancakes in a ziploc bag and put it in the freezer.
    Works fine. -aem

  4. #4
    Ranée at Arabian Knits Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing

    In article
    <[email protected]>,
    aem <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Might not work for you since you want them so rarely, but I often have
    > the convenience of frozen pancakes. I almost always make more pancake
    > batter than we will eat and rather than throw out the excess I cook it
    > up, put the extra pancakes in a ziploc bag and put it in the freezer.
    > Works fine. -aem


    That's what we do, too. I put parchment or wax paper between them to
    make it easier to separate them.

    Regards,
    Ranee @ Arabian Knits

    "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

    http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/

  5. #5
    Pete C. Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing


    Dimitri wrote:
    >
    > Steamers.
    >
    > 1. Reduce the frozen vegetable contents per bag from 16 Oz. to 12 Oz.
    > 2. Place the frozen veggies in a bag made from a plastic that will take
    > heat & pressure without exploding.
    > 3. Develop a catchy name like "Steamers".
    > 4. Print some inane instructions on the bag like "Hold here" and "be
    > careful HOT"
    > 5. Charge 3 times as much as you did for the 16 Oz package.
    >
    > Thus saving the user the trouble of placing frozen veggies in a microwave
    > safe dish and covering it with a piece of plastic.
    >
    > Baaaaahhhh we're being taken to the slaughter like sheep.
    >
    > NEXT TIME - Frozen Pancakes!
    > --
    > Dimitri
    >
    > Chicken Loaf
    >
    > http://kitchenguide.wordpress.com.


    Who's this "we"? I don't buy that crap, indeed I have long nuked frozen
    veggies in the standard bag and have never had any melting or exploding.
    I can't say that I see anything wrong with fleecing the ignorant with
    such marketing however, as those ignorant folks would surely find a
    worse used for their money if they were allowed to keep it.

  6. #6
    Dimitri Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing

    "Pete C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4bba286f$0$6314$[email protected] ter.com...
    >
    > Dimitri wrote:
    >>
    >> Steamers.
    >>
    >> 1. Reduce the frozen vegetable contents per bag from 16 Oz. to 12 Oz.
    >> 2. Place the frozen veggies in a bag made from a plastic that will
    >> take
    >> heat & pressure without exploding.
    >> 3. Develop a catchy name like "Steamers".
    >> 4. Print some inane instructions on the bag like "Hold here" and "be
    >> careful HOT"
    >> 5. Charge 3 times as much as you did for the 16 Oz package.
    >>
    >> Thus saving the user the trouble of placing frozen veggies in a microwave
    >> safe dish and covering it with a piece of plastic.
    >>
    >> Baaaaahhhh we're being taken to the slaughter like sheep.
    >>
    >> NEXT TIME - Frozen Pancakes!
    >> --
    >> Dimitri
    >>
    >> Chicken Loaf
    >>
    >> http://kitchenguide.wordpress.com.

    >
    > Who's this "we"?


    If it were not successful you would not see it either advertized or on the
    shelf any more. Ergo there must be some "we" purchasing this and other
    "convenience items"



    I don't buy that crap, indeed I have long nuked frozen
    > veggies in the standard bag and have never had any melting or exploding.


    > I can't say that I see anything wrong with fleecing the ignorant with
    > such marketing however, as those ignorant folks would surely find a
    > worse used for their money if they were allowed to keep it.


    Hmmm I am not sure I agree with your premise.


    --
    Dimitri

    Chicken Loaf

    http://kitchenguide.wordpress.com.


  7. #7
    gloria.p Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing


    > In article
    > <[email protected]>,
    > aem <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Might not work for you since you want them so rarely, but I often have
    >> the convenience of frozen pancakes. I almost always make more pancake
    >> batter than we will eat and rather than throw out the excess I cook it
    >> up, put the extra pancakes in a ziploc bag and put it in the freezer.
    >> Works fine. -aem




    Our extras get torn apart and put out int he back yard for the birds,
    foxes, or any other critter that's hungry.

    gloria p

  8. #8
    Kalmia Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing

    On Apr 5, 12:13*pm, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:
    > Steamers.
    >
    > 1. * *Reduce the frozen vegetable contents per bag from 16 Oz. to 12 Oz.
    > 2. * *Place the frozen veggies in a bag made from a plastic that willtake
    > heat & pressure without exploding.
    > 3. * *Develop a catchy name like "Steamers".
    > 4. * *Print some inane instructions on the bag like *"Hold here" and "be
    > careful HOT"
    > 5. * *Charge 3 times as much as you did for the 16 Oz package.
    >
    > Thus saving the user the trouble of placing frozen veggies in a microwave
    > safe dish and covering it with a piece of plastic.
    >
    > Baaaaahhhh *we're being taken to the slaughter like sheep.



    I don't know about 'being taken'. People who buy this convenience
    stuff just don't bother or know how to take the time to do some cost
    figuring. But no one's twisting any arms. If that's how they wanna
    throw their money away.....but, wait, maybe they don't see it that
    way.


  9. #9
    Kalmia Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing

    On Apr 5, 1:37*pm, aem <aem_ag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Apr 5, 10:23 am, "rec.food.baking" <Picky...@msn.com> wrote:
    >
    > > On Apr 5, 9:13 am, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:> Baaaaahhhh*we're being taken to the slaughter like sheep.

    >
    > > > NEXT TIME - Frozen Pancakes!

    >
    > > Next time? *Krusteaz frozen pancakes have been my preference for years
    > > now. *They're worth the extra cost, no-bother factor to me. *I only
    > > want a stack of four, or even just a few pancakes three or four times
    > > a year. *No mixing, no mess to wash up, no spoilage!
    > > ...Picky

    >
    > Might not work for you since you want them so rarely, but I often have
    > the convenience of frozen pancakes. *I almost always make more pancake
    > batter than we will eat and rather than throw out the excess I cook it
    > up, put the extra pancakes in a ziploc bag and put it in the freezer.



    I do the same - made 8 waffles the other day, froze some with wax
    paper between. Makes for a quick b'fast after popping them into the
    toaster over.
    Spread with cream cheese, orange marmalade..... not baaaad.

  10. #10
    Food Snob® Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing

    On Apr 5, 12:23*pm, "rec.food.baking" <Picky...@msn.com> wrote:
    > On Apr 5, 9:13*am, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:> Baaaaahhhh*we're being taken to the slaughter like sheep.
    >
    > > NEXT TIME - Frozen Pancakes!

    >
    > Next time? *Krusteaz frozen pancakes have been my preference for years
    > now. *They're worth the extra cost, no-bother factor to me. *I only
    > want a stack of four, or even just a few pancakes three or four times
    > a year. *No mixing, no mess to wash up, no spoilage!
    > ...Picky


    Obviously, you are NOT picky. Might I recommend Banquet TV dinners?
    Hey, there's, "No mixing, no mess to wash up, no spoilage!"

    --Bryan

  11. #11
    Food Snob® Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing

    On Apr 5, 2:42*pm, Kalmia <tweeny90...@mypacks.net> wrote:
    > On Apr 5, 1:37*pm, aem <aem_ag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Apr 5, 10:23 am, "rec.food.baking" <Picky...@msn.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > On Apr 5, 9:13 am, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:> Baaaaahhhh *we're being taken to the slaughter like sheep.

    >
    > > > > NEXT TIME - Frozen Pancakes!

    >
    > > > Next time? *Krusteaz frozen pancakes have been my preference for years
    > > > now. *They're worth the extra cost, no-bother factor to me. *I only
    > > > want a stack of four, or even just a few pancakes three or four times
    > > > a year. *No mixing, no mess to wash up, no spoilage!
    > > > ...Picky

    >
    > > Might not work for you since you want them so rarely, but I often have
    > > the convenience of frozen pancakes. *I almost always make more pancake
    > > batter than we will eat and rather than throw out the excess I cook it
    > > up, put the extra pancakes in a ziploc bag and put it in the freezer.

    >
    > I do the same - made 8 waffles the other day, froze some with wax
    > paper between. *Makes for a quick b'fast after popping them into the
    > toaster over.
    > Spread with cream cheese, orange marmalade..... not baaaad.


    But not goooood either.

    --Bryan

  12. #12
    Pete C. Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing


    Dimitri wrote:
    >
    > "Pete C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:4bba286f$0$6314$[email protected] ter.com...
    > >
    > > Dimitri wrote:
    > >>
    > >> Steamers.
    > >>
    > >> 1. Reduce the frozen vegetable contents per bag from 16 Oz. to 12 Oz.
    > >> 2. Place the frozen veggies in a bag made from a plastic that will
    > >> take
    > >> heat & pressure without exploding.
    > >> 3. Develop a catchy name like "Steamers".
    > >> 4. Print some inane instructions on the bag like "Hold here" and "be
    > >> careful HOT"
    > >> 5. Charge 3 times as much as you did for the 16 Oz package.
    > >>
    > >> Thus saving the user the trouble of placing frozen veggies in a microwave
    > >> safe dish and covering it with a piece of plastic.
    > >>
    > >> Baaaaahhhh we're being taken to the slaughter like sheep.
    > >>
    > >> NEXT TIME - Frozen Pancakes!
    > >> --
    > >> Dimitri
    > >>
    > >> Chicken Loaf
    > >>
    > >> http://kitchenguide.wordpress.com.

    > >
    > > Who's this "we"?

    >
    > If it were not successful you would not see it either advertized or on the
    > shelf any more. Ergo there must be some "we" purchasing this and other
    > "convenience items"


    The correct term would be "they" as in "They're being taken to the
    slaughter like sheep", while "we're" continuing to not buy that crap.

    >
    > I don't buy that crap, indeed I have long nuked frozen
    > > veggies in the standard bag and have never had any melting or exploding.

    >
    > > I can't say that I see anything wrong with fleecing the ignorant with
    > > such marketing however, as those ignorant folks would surely find a
    > > worse used for their money if they were allowed to keep it.

    >
    > Hmmm I am not sure I agree with your premise.


    They might find a worse use for their money, one which may threaten /
    harm me.

  13. #13
    Dimitri Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing

    "Kalmia" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    On Apr 5, 12:13 pm, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:
    >
    > Baaaaahhhh we're being taken to the slaughter like sheep.



    I don't know about 'being taken'. People who buy this convenience
    stuff just don't bother or know how to take the time to do some cost
    figuring. But no one's twisting any arms. If that's how they wanna
    throw their money away.....but, wait, maybe they don't see it that
    way.


    More "MarketSpeak"

    "In the unlikely event of a water landing." Only one was there a succeeeful
    "Water Landng" I think they used to call it ditching at sea.

    Dimitri


  14. #14
    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing

    Dimitri wrote:
    > Steamers.
    >
    > 1. Reduce the frozen vegetable contents per bag from 16 Oz. to 12
    > Oz.
    > 2. Place the frozen veggies in a bag made from a plastic that will
    > take heat & pressure without exploding.
    > 3. Develop a catchy name like "Steamers".
    > 4. Print some inane instructions on the bag like "Hold here" and
    > "be careful HOT"
    > 5. Charge 3 times as much as you did for the 16 Oz package.
    >
    > Thus saving the user the trouble of placing frozen veggies in a
    > microwave safe dish and covering it with a piece of plastic.


    That's funny. I wondered what made those packages special.
    I have bought them a couple of times on sale when they were cheaper
    than the other brands. I still put them in a little Corningware pot
    I have with a glass lid and nuke them.

    nancy

  15. #15
    J. Clarke Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing

    On 4/5/2010 5:21 PM, Dimitri wrote:
    > "Kalmia" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    > On Apr 5, 12:13 pm, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:
    >>
    >> Baaaaahhhh we're being taken to the slaughter like sheep.

    >
    >
    > I don't know about 'being taken'. People who buy this convenience
    > stuff just don't bother or know how to take the time to do some cost
    > figuring. But no one's twisting any arms. If that's how they wanna
    > throw their money away.....but, wait, maybe they don't see it that
    > way.
    >
    >
    > More "MarketSpeak"
    >
    > "In the unlikely event of a water landing." I think they used to call it ditching at sea.


    What do you mean by "Only one was there a succeeeful 'Water Landng'"?
    There have been many "water landings" with no loss of life, if that's
    what you mean by "successful".


  16. #16
    Dimitri Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing

    "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:hpdo97[email protected]..
    > On 4/5/2010 5:21 PM, Dimitri wrote:
    >> "Kalmia" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]..
    >> On Apr 5, 12:13 pm, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Baaaaahhhh we're being taken to the slaughter like sheep.

    >>
    >>
    >> I don't know about 'being taken'. People who buy this convenience
    >> stuff just don't bother or know how to take the time to do some cost
    >> figuring. But no one's twisting any arms. If that's how they wanna
    >> throw their money away.....but, wait, maybe they don't see it that
    >> way.
    >>
    >>
    >> More "MarketSpeak"
    >>
    >> "In the unlikely event of a water landing." I think they used to call it
    >> ditching at sea.

    >
    > What do you mean by "Only one was there a succeeeful 'Water Landng'"?
    > There have been many "water landings" with no loss of life, if that's what
    > you mean by "successful".
    >


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_landing

    Dimitri


  17. #17
    J. Clarke Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing

    On 4/5/2010 6:42 PM, Dimitri wrote:
    > "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> On 4/5/2010 5:21 PM, Dimitri wrote:
    >>> "Kalmia" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:[email protected]..
    >>> On Apr 5, 12:13 pm, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> Baaaaahhhh we're being taken to the slaughter like sheep.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> I don't know about 'being taken'. People who buy this convenience
    >>> stuff just don't bother or know how to take the time to do some cost
    >>> figuring. But no one's twisting any arms. If that's how they wanna
    >>> throw their money away.....but, wait, maybe they don't see it that
    >>> way.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> More "MarketSpeak"
    >>>
    >>> "In the unlikely event of a water landing." I think they used to call
    >>> it ditching at sea.

    >>
    >> What do you mean by "Only one was there a succeeeful 'Water Landng'"?
    >> There have been many "water landings" with no loss of life, if that's
    >> what you mean by "successful".
    >>

    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_landing


    I don't understand your point in linking that article. It lists a large
    number of successful water landings, which would be inconsistent with
    your assertion that "only one there was a succeeeful 'Water Landing'".
    Or perhaps I am simply misinterpreting your typographical errors--I
    interpret that statement to mean "only once was there a successful
    'Water Landing'". Did you mean something else?


  18. #18
    Serene Vannoy Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing

    Dimitri wrote:
    > Steamers.
    >
    > 1. Reduce the frozen vegetable contents per bag from 16 Oz. to 12 Oz.
    > 2. Place the frozen veggies in a bag made from a plastic that will
    > take heat & pressure without exploding.
    > 3. Develop a catchy name like "Steamers".
    > 4. Print some inane instructions on the bag like "Hold here" and "be
    > careful HOT"
    > 5. Charge 3 times as much as you did for the 16 Oz package.
    >
    > Thus saving the user the trouble of placing frozen veggies in a
    > microwave safe dish and covering it with a piece of plastic.
    >
    > Baaaaahhhh we're being taken to the slaughter like sheep.


    Totally. However, when I had a coupon/sale combination last week that
    made them half the price of regular, I got some. And I don't even have a
    microwave, so I guess I'll just steam them as usual. Don't tell the
    Bird's Eye people; they may have to kill me to make an example of me.

    > NEXT TIME - Frozen Pancakes!


    How about that freakin' spray-on pancake stuff? That makes me laugh so hard.

    Serene
    --
    "I tend to come down on the side of autonomy. Once people are grown up,
    I believe they have the right to go to hell in the handbasket of their
    choosing." -- Pat Kight, on alt.polyamory

  19. #19
    Dimitri Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing

    "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..


    <snip>
    >>
    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_landing

    >
    > I don't understand your point in linking that article. It lists a large
    > number of successful water landings, which would be inconsistent with your
    > assertion that "only one there was a succeeeful 'Water Landing'". Or
    > perhaps I am simply misinterpreting your typographical errors--I interpret
    > that statement to mean "only once was there a successful 'Water Landing'".
    > Did you mean something else?


    Large commercial planes are simply not designed for "Water Landings" yes
    you're correct some people have survived. What I said - it was an over
    exaggeration.... Which I tend to do.

    IIRC Sully was able to put the plane down successfully for may reasons 1 of
    which was his experience flying gliders (dead stick landings).

    "By Matt Phillips
    One of the more interesting elements on the resume of Capt. Chesley 'Sully'
    Sullenberger - the pilot at the helm of US Airways flight 1549 - is his
    training flying gliders. It stands to reason that familiarity flying such
    engine-less aircraft could come in handy since he reportedly lost both
    engines on the Airbus A320 Thursday afternoon, possibly after striking
    birds. "


    If the Flight attendants say " in the unlikely event we have to DITCH AT
    SEA" people lose confidence. Marketing speak softens the concept to WATER
    LANDING as if a 747 or a jumbo jet has pontoons. Marketing Speak is
    designed to make the unacceptable acceptable. IMHO....

    Dimitri


  20. #20
    Steve Pope Guest

    Default Re: Magic Marketing

    Dimitri <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Large commercial planes are simply not designed for "Water Landings" yes


    Not true. They all have water landing procedures, which include
    closing off vents on the bottom side of the airplane and
    landing at a certain angle (generally nose-up).

    I really doubt they would certify an airliner that couldn't
    at least nominally be expected to land in water, as well
    as perform a dead-stick landing on land.


    Steve

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