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  1. #1
    Michael Kuettner Guest

    Default For little Moron

    "Boron Elgar" wrote :
    > "Michael Kuettner" wrote:
    >>Where was i lying, you dumb **** ?

    > Dumb? Because I accurately and factually accuse *your* country of the
    > bigotry that you attempted to smear MY country with?

    Dumber than a brick-****house, in fact.
    So your country hasn't invaded two countries under Bush , killed
    most native Americans, put the rest into reservates, enslaved
    and killed Blacks, put USAn citizens of Japanese descent into
    concentration camps in WW II ? Wow.
    Then there's Vietnam, the putsch in Iran which installed the Shah
    while desposing an elected government.
    The list goes on, btw.
    All the time being a state - the USA.
    From 1938-45 there was no state of Austria.
    Got that, you dumb **** ?
    > ****? Sweetie, I am sure you wouldn't know a **** if it sat on your
    > face after you paid for it. Guys as bastardly and ignorant as you
    > don't get laid without a cash in hand.

    <snort> Dream on. You really seem to "think" that your foul mouth
    powered by your delusions of adaequacy will get you somewhere ...
    >>> And pig-****er.

    >
    >>No, I don't do pigs like you.

    > Sorry, honey-lamb, I'm kosher. Besides. I have a real American man who

    You're anything but kosher.
    > takes care of me just fine.

    Oh, so real American men do pigs ? Good to know.
    > Look to your own history to make you case?

    I know my history rather well; contrary to an undereducated
    USAn bitch ...
    > What's that? You have no evidence whatsoever that you come from a
    > country that suffers from deeply rooted racism and bigotry? Oh, damn
    > shame...

    Nope; I don't come from the USA.
    >
    >>> Boron

    >
    >>Should be moron ...

    > Really, care to match IQ scores? Incomes? I bet you'd lose Yodel-Boy.

    Your IQ can't be measured, my dear. One has to dig for it.
    Now to your link, you "wonder-brain" :
    >
    >
    >>> Persecution and Deportation of Austrian Jews, 1938-1945

    >
    >>Yep, that happened _after_ the "Anschluss".

    > You seem to have re-written history's take of Austria and its
    > relationship to the Reich. Dream on. Pull out your Kurt Waldheim
    > t-shirt and wear it proudly.

    So you claim that that happened before the Anschluß ?
    Come on, cite someting, pea-brain.
    And learn to read posts, you little moron.
    > Let's skip right to the modern history.

    Oh, let's do !
    > Go read up on what the Council of Europe thinks about Austrian
    > treatment of minorities. THEN come back and try your self righteous
    > bull**** on someone you can try to bully. I come with facts. Get over
    > it. You're an incompetent spewer who cannot logically or truthfully
    > back up anything.

    The Council of Europe ? Oh, they put some stars on their website
    and modelled it after the EU logo.
    Little morons like you fall for that anytime.
    Try to click on "Who we are".
    You come with facts ? Your little USAn brain would implode ...
    Rather elusive texts. "Founding fathers" returns an "Erreur 404".
    They can't even get their website right, let alone their "facts".
    It's a little hangout to feed some party-soldiers of various countries.
    Austria's a member, btw.
    <snip ****>
    Here's the document moron was referring to :
    <http://hudoc.ecri.coe.int/XMLEcri/ENGLISH/Cycle_04/04_CbC_eng/AUT-CbC-IV-2010-002-ENG.pdf>
    Some little annotations :
    Contrary to the USA, we have no green card policy. Meaning :
    Contrary to the USA, we have to take the subeducated and
    useless. Those suck at the public tit (meaning : I have to pay for
    them).
    Since some practice living like this in the 3rd generation by now,
    we refuse to allow even more unwanted aliens.
    Contrary to the illegal Mexicans in the USA, our "asylants" refuse
    to work; our social security (which the USA lacks), pays for them.
    Those who chose to work and become Austrians, are Austrians -
    regardless of skin colour. Google for "David Alaba", as a famous
    example. Or look at the phonebook of Vienna for lesser known
    examples.
    Those notes about "extreme violence against immigrants" lack
    any cites; the most notable "extreme violence" over here is
    commited by Turkish "Austrians" against Kurdish "Austrians".
    Or by Tschetschens massakring Ex-Yugos for control over the
    bordellos here.
    All those crimes are - of course - Austrian ones.
    Those are just some of the little details not stated in the "report".
    Another nice example is the statement, that immigrants have
    lesser chances for being educated.
    Heck, our schools are not prepared to teach German to aliens.
    USAn schools don't do that, either.
    But anyone interested should just read the PDF of the do-gooders
    above and form their own opinions.
    > Nice try.....too bad the Austrian populace, like you, can't seem to
    > get the hang of tolerance. Look to your own house before you toss
    > stones at mine, you son of a bitch.

    Oh, did I hit too hard, you poor dumb USAn moron ?
    > Now let that all sink in and put a knot in your lederhosen, which I
    > am sure are regularly filled mit schlag, you foaming, chauvinistic
    > snob.

    Shove a flagpole up your **** and masturbate while
    humming your ****ty anthem, you dumb ****.
    That's the American way, after all.
    Now, piss off or bring some cites that there was an Austria
    between 1938 and 1945.
    I won't hold my breath ...


  2. #2
    Nunya Bidnits Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    Michael Kuettner <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Shove a flagpole up your **** and masturbate while
    > humming your ****ty anthem, you dumb ****.
    > That's the American way, after all.
    > Now, piss off or bring some cites that there was an Austria
    > between 1938 and 1945.
    > I won't hold my breath ...


    Alrighty then.



  3. #3
    Boron Elgar Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:13:14 -0500, "Nunya Bidnits"
    <nunyabidnits@eternal-se[email protected]> wrote:

    >Michael Kuettner <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Shove a flagpole up your **** and masturbate while
    >> humming your ****ty anthem, you dumb ****.
    >> That's the American way, after all.
    >> Now, piss off or bring some cites that there was an Austria
    >> between 1938 and 1945.
    >> I won't hold my breath ...

    >
    >Alrighty then.
    >


    LOL...he *is* rather fixated on my vagina, isn't he?

  4. #4
    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    On 9/25/2012 9:43 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
    > On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:13:14 -0500, "Nunya Bidnits"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Michael Kuettner <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Shove a flagpole up your **** and masturbate while
    >>> humming your ****ty anthem, you dumb ****.
    >>> That's the American way, after all.
    >>> Now, piss off or bring some cites that there was an Austria
    >>> between 1938 and 1945.
    >>> I won't hold my breath ...

    >>
    >> Alrighty then.
    >>

    >
    > LOL...he *is* rather fixated on my vagina, isn't he?


    Good for a laugh, anyway. Check for rabies.

    nancy


  5. #5
    Nunya Bidnits Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    Boron Elgar <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:13:14 -0500, "Nunya Bidnits"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Michael Kuettner <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Shove a flagpole up your **** and masturbate while
    >>> humming your ****ty anthem, you dumb ****.
    >>> That's the American way, after all.
    >>> Now, piss off or bring some cites that there was an Austria
    >>> between 1938 and 1945.
    >>> I won't hold my breath ...

    >>
    >> Alrighty then.
    >>

    >
    > LOL...he *is* rather fixated on my vagina, isn't he?


    It's another Austrian gene pool problem. It's best they don't breed
    elsewhere.



  6. #6
    Boron Elgar Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 12:45:48 -0500, "Nunya Bidnits"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Boron Elgar <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:13:14 -0500, "Nunya Bidnits"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Michael Kuettner <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Shove a flagpole up your **** and masturbate while
    >>>> humming your ****ty anthem, you dumb ****.
    >>>> That's the American way, after all.
    >>>> Now, piss off or bring some cites that there was an Austria
    >>>> between 1938 and 1945.
    >>>> I won't hold my breath ...
    >>>
    >>> Alrighty then.
    >>>

    >>
    >> LOL...he *is* rather fixated on my vagina, isn't he?

    >
    >It's another Austrian gene pool problem. It's best they don't breed
    >elsewhere.
    >


    It is like everyone in France *after* WWII claiming to have been in
    the Resistance during the war.

    Personal revisionist history.

    Boron

  7. #7
    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    On 25/09/2012 2:02 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
    OL...he *is* rather fixated on my vagina, isn't he?
    >>
    >> It's another Austrian gene pool problem. It's best they don't breed
    >> elsewhere.
    >>

    >
    > It is like everyone in France *after* WWII claiming to have been in
    > the Resistance during the war.
    >
    > Personal revisionist history.


    So true. I knew someone who was in the Danish resistance. He really
    was. He was one of the people who helped my father to escape after his
    plane was shot down over Denmark. In fact, they had a clandestine radio
    transmitter in their house. When I said something to him once about the
    number of people in the Danish Resistance... IIRC the number I heard was
    35,000. He said he would like to know where the hell they were when they
    needed the help.

    Then there is Holland, which sadly acknowledged that there were far more
    Dutch who joined the Freikorps than the Resistance.

    Austria OTOH..... most accounts show that the Germans were welcomed with
    open arms, that there was more support for the Nazis there than in much
    of Germany. Yet, we are now being told that they were invaded ???? There
    was no fighting. It's ironic that people make cracks about the French,
    but they did put up a fight. It lasted longer than the fight the Poles
    put up. The Austrians seemed to have been more interested in fighting
    for the Nazis than against them.



  8. #8
    Michael Kuettner Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron



    "Dave Smith" wrote :

    >> On 25/09/2012 2:02 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:

    > OL...he *is* rather fixated on my vagina, isn't he?


    Nope; I have seen a photo of you. Rather disgusting broad.

    >>
    >>>> It's another Austrian gene pool problem. It's best they don't breed
    >>>> elsewhere.


    Our "gene pool" is OK. The dumb ones went abroad.

    >>

    >
    >> It is like everyone in France *after* WWII claiming to have been in
    >> the Resistance during the war.

    >
    >> Personal revisionist history.


    Ah, Moron again.
    Just for the record : There should have been several thousand
    death sentences for Austrians supporting the Nazis.
    The Cold War put an end to justice against those swine.

    <snip>

    > Austria OTOH..... most accounts show that the Germans were welcomed with
    > open arms, that there was more support for the Nazis there than in much
    > of Germany. Yet, we are now being told that they were invaded ???? There
    > was no fighting. It's ironic that people make cracks about the French,
    > but they did put up a fight. It lasted longer than the fight the Poles
    > put up. The Austrians seemed to have been more interested in fighting
    > for the Nazis than against them.


    <snort>
    I've given some pointers, you ignorant little twit.
    Another little hint : We've asked the UK for a treaty against German
    usurpation. They refused. Then we got Italy. That pact was finished
    when Hitler and Mussolini formed their pact.
    All those things go over your pointy little head, right ?









  9. #9
    Nunya Bidnits Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    Michael Kuettner <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Dave Smith" wrote :
    >
    >>> On 25/09/2012 2:02 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:

    >> OL...he *is* rather fixated on my vagina, isn't he?

    >
    > Nope; I have seen a photo of you. Rather disgusting broad.


    Dave is a man, you stupid ****. OTOH, you may not be able to discern the
    difference, considering what the women look like where you live.

    >>>
    >>>>> It's another Austrian gene pool problem. It's best they don't
    >>>>> breed elsewhere.

    >
    > Our "gene pool" is OK. The dumb ones went abroad.


    Obviously the very fact of your existence proves you're lying.

    >
    >>>

    >>
    >>> It is like everyone in France *after* WWII claiming to have been in
    >>> the Resistance during the war.

    >>
    >>> Personal revisionist history.

    >
    > Ah, Moron again.
    > Just for the record : There should have been several thousand
    > death sentences for Austrians supporting the Nazis.
    > The Cold War put an end to justice against those swine.


    That's clearly true, as evidenced by the persistence of your own malignant
    family genetic line. I agree, you assholes should have been terminated
    decades ago.

    >
    > <snip>
    >
    >> Austria OTOH..... most accounts show that the Germans were welcomed
    >> with open arms, that there was more support for the Nazis there than
    >> in much of Germany. Yet, we are now being told that they were
    >> invaded ???? There was no fighting. It's ironic that people make
    >> cracks about the French, but they did put up a fight. It lasted
    >> longer than the fight the Poles put up. The Austrians seemed to have
    >> been more interested in fighting for the Nazis than against them.

    >
    > <snort>
    > I've given some pointers, you ignorant little twit.


    No, you've come in here and **** on the majority of people here with your
    neo-nazi bull****, asshole. And don't think we'll forget it.

    > Another little hint : We've asked the UK for a treaty against German
    > usurpation. They refused. Then we got Italy. That pact was finished
    > when Hitler and Mussolini formed their pact.


    Nobody gives a **** about your phony angst. You Asstians couldn't wait to
    join up with Hitler and you got much less retribution than you deserved.
    Does that piss you off? Are you inclined to try to tell me I'm wrong? Save
    it, naziboi, I don't give a rat's ass if you agree or not. I'll repeat it
    far and wide if it pisses you off enough, in hopes you'll have a stroke.

    You will now have another meltdown. The only question is how long it will
    take you. But none of your hysterical pansy-assed hissy fits will change the
    realities I have pointed out.

    tic toc tic toc tic toc tic toc



  10. #10
    Boron Elgar Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:07:35 -0400, Dave Smith
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On 25/09/2012 2:02 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
    >OL...he *is* rather fixated on my vagina, isn't he?
    >>>
    >>> It's another Austrian gene pool problem. It's best they don't breed
    >>> elsewhere.
    >>>

    >>
    >> It is like everyone in France *after* WWII claiming to have been in
    >> the Resistance during the war.
    >>
    >> Personal revisionist history.

    >
    >So true. I knew someone who was in the Danish resistance. He really
    >was. He was one of the people who helped my father to escape after his
    >plane was shot down over Denmark. In fact, they had a clandestine radio
    >transmitter in their house. When I said something to him once about the
    >number of people in the Danish Resistance... IIRC the number I heard was
    >35,000. He said he would like to know where the hell they were when they
    >needed the help.


    You mentioned about your dad getting shot down before. It must make
    for a very impressive story. You should write it up.
    >
    >Then there is Holland, which sadly acknowledged that there were far more
    >Dutch who joined the Freikorps than the Resistance.


    It is only recently, within the past 5 years or so, that I first
    learned of this.
    >
    >Austria OTOH..... most accounts show that the Germans were welcomed with
    >open arms, that there was more support for the Nazis there than in much
    >of Germany. Yet, we are now being told that they were invaded ???? There
    >was no fighting. It's ironic that people make cracks about the French,
    >but they did put up a fight. It lasted longer than the fight the Poles
    >put up. The Austrians seemed to have been more interested in fighting
    >for the Nazis than against them.
    >

    I agree.

    Boron

  11. #11
    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    On 25/09/2012 4:54 PM, Michael Kuettner wrote:
    >
    >
    > "Dave Smith" wrote :
    >
    >>> On 25/09/2012 2:02 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:

    >> OL...he *is* rather fixated on my vagina, isn't he?

    >
    > Nope; I have seen a photo of you. Rather disgusting broad.
    >
    >>>
    >>>>> It's another Austrian gene pool problem. It's best they don't breed
    >>>>> elsewhere.

    >
    > Our "gene pool" is OK. The dumb ones went abroad.
    >
    >>>

    >>
    >>> It is like everyone in France *after* WWII claiming to have been in
    >>> the Resistance during the war.

    >>
    >>> Personal revisionist history.

    >
    > Ah, Moron again.
    > Just for the record : There should have been several thousand
    > death sentences for Austrians supporting the Nazis.
    > The Cold War put an end to justice against those swine.
    >
    > <snip>
    >
    >> Austria OTOH..... most accounts show that the Germans were welcomed
    >> with open arms, that there was more support for the Nazis there than
    >> in much of Germany. Yet, we are now being told that they were invaded
    >> ???? There was no fighting. It's ironic that people make cracks about
    >> the French, but they did put up a fight. It lasted longer than the
    >> fight the Poles put up. The Austrians seemed to have been more
    >> interested in fighting for the Nazis than against them.

    >
    > <snort>
    > I've given some pointers, you ignorant little twit.
    > Another little hint : We've asked the UK for a treaty against German
    > usurpation. They refused. Then we got Italy. That pact was finished
    > when Hitler and Mussolini formed their pact.
    > All those things go over your pointy little head, right ?
    >
    >


    Was that the agreement about the crisis in the Balkans???? Oh no. That
    was when the British wanted them to come to a conference to discuss the
    problems but Austria was not interested. They were too buys trying to
    get Germany to threaten France so that they could move on the Balkans
    and not worry about the Russians. The Treaty of Versailles prohibited
    Germany from annexing Austria. I don't know what you expected Britain to
    do, or why you would expect them to do anything, since Austria was one
    of the main aggressors in the mess than turned into WWI.

    Is there any footage of Italians greeting the German soldiers as the
    Austrians were?


  12. #12
    Betsy D Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    From an email I recently received:

    1938 Austria - Scary piece of history!!

    Kitty Werthmann is 85 years old.

    America truly is the Greatest Country in the World. By: Kitty Werthmann

    What I am about to tell you is something you*ve probably never heard or
    will ever read in history books.

    I believe that I am an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that
    Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We
    elected him by a landslide - 98% of the vote. I*ve never read that in
    any American publications. Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in
    with his tanks and took Austria by force.

    In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our
    workforce was unemployed. We had 25% inflation and 25% bank loan
    interest rates.

    Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young
    people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they
    didn*t want to work; there simply weren*t any jobs. My mother was a
    Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we
    cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry
    people - about 30 daily.

    The Communist Party and the National Socialist Party were fighting each
    other. Blocks and blocks of cities like Vienna, Linz, and Graz were
    destroyed. The people became desperate and petitioned the government to
    let them decide what kind of government they wanted.

    We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany, where Hitler had been
    in power since 1933. We had been told that they didn*t have unemployment
    or crime, and they had a high standard of living. Nothing was ever said
    about persecution of any group -- Jewish or otherwise. We were led to
    believe that everyone was happy. We wanted the same way of life in
    Austria. We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of
    unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that businesses
    would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back. Ninety-eight
    percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have
    Hitler for our ruler.

    We were overjoyed, and, for three days, we danced in the streets and had
    candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens and
    everyone was fed.

    After the election, German officials were appointed, and like a miracle,
    we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone was
    employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was created
    through the Public Work Service.

    Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it
    was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home.
    An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn*t support
    his family. Many women in the teaching profession were elated that they
    could retain the jobs they previously had been required to give up for
    marriage.

    Hitler Targets Education -Eliminates Religious Instruction for Children:

    Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good public school.
    The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our
    schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my
    schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler*s picture hanging
    next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told
    the class we wouldn*t pray or have religion anymore. Instead, we sang
    "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," and had physical education.

    Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance. Parents
    were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum. They were told
    that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of
    warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the
    equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail.
    The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination. The rest of
    the day we had sports. As time went along, we loved it. Oh, we had so
    much fun and got our sports equipment free. We would go home and
    gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.

    My mother was very unhappy. When the next term started, she took me out
    of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldn*t do
    that and she told me that someday, when I grew up, I would be grateful.
    There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun - no sports, and no
    political indoctrination. I hated it at first, but felt I could tolerate
    it. Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home. I would go back to
    my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing. Their
    loose lifestyle was very alarming to me. They lived without religion. By
    that time, unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler. It
    seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly. As time went
    along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasn*t
    exposed to that kind of humanistic philosophy.

    Equal Rights Hits Home:

    In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established. All food was
    rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. At the same
    time, a full-employment law was passed which meant, if you didn*t work,
    you didn*t get a ration card, and if you didn*t have a card, you starved
    to death. Women who stayed home to raise their families didn*t have any
    marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.

    Soon after this, the draft was implemented. It was compulsory for young
    people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps. During the
    day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their
    barracks for military training just like the boys. They were trained to
    be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps. After the
    labor corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines.
    When I go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these
    women are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to
    handle the horrors of combat. Three months before I turned 18, I was
    severely injured in an air raid attack. I nearly had a leg amputated, so
    I was spared having to go into the labor corps and into military
    service.

    Hitler Restructured the Family Through Daycare:

    When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government
    immediately established child care centers. You could take your children
    ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, 7 days
    a week, under the total care of the government. The state raised a whole
    generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the
    children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time,
    no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.

    Health Care and Small Business Suffer Under Government Controls:

    Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors
    trained at the University of Vienna. After Hitler, health care was
    socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government.
    The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors
    for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40
    people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were
    full. If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for
    your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into
    socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped,
    so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.

    As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our income. Newlyweds
    immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a
    household. We had big programs for families. All day care and education
    were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college
    tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as
    food stamps, clothing, and housing.

    We had another agency designed to monitor business. My brother-in-law
    owned a restaurant that had square tables. Government officials told him
    he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump
    themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have additional
    bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack
    bar. He couldn*t meet all the demands. Soon, he went out of business. If
    the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones
    existed, it could be in control.

    We had consumer protection. We were told how to shop and what to buy.
    Free enterprise was essentially abolished. We had a planning agency
    specially designed for farmers. The agents would go to the farms, count
    the livestock, then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to produce
    it.

    "Mercy Killing" Redefined:

    In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps. The
    villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter, were
    closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated. So people
    intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded. When I arrived, I
    was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all
    useful and did good manual work. I knew one, named Vincent, very well.
    He was a janitor of the school. One day, I looked out the window and saw
    Vincent and others getting into a van. I asked my superior where they
    were going. She said to an institution where the State Health Department
    would teach them a trade, and to read and write. The families were
    required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit
    for 6 months. They were told visits would interfere with the program and
    might cause homesickness.

    As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died
    a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not fooled. We suspected
    what was happening. Those people left in excellent physical health and
    all died within 6 months. We called this euthanasia.

    The Final Steps - Gun Laws:

    Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler
    said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by
    matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law-abiding and
    dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not
    long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn
    in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was
    futile not to comply voluntarily.

    No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the
    government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not
    only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.

    Totalitarianism didn*t come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until
    1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria. Had it happened
    overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead,
    we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles.
    The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by
    little, eroded our freedom.

    After World War II, Russian troops occupied Austria. Women were raped,
    pre-teen to elderly. The press never wrote about this, either. When the
    Soviets left in 1955, they took everything that they could, dismantling
    whole factories in the process. They sawed down whole orchards of fruit,
    and what they couldn*t destroy, they burned. We called it The Burned
    Earth. Most of the population barricaded themselves in their houses.
    Women hid in their cellars for 6 weeks as the troops mobilized. Those
    who couldn*t, paid the price. There is a monument in Vienna today,
    dedicated to those women who were massacred by the Russians. This is an
    eye witness account.

    "It*s true...those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a
    country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity. America Truly is the
    Greatest Country in the World. Don*t Let Freedom Slip Away!
    *"After America, There is No Place to Go."

    The author of this article lives in South Dakota.


  13. #13
    Krypsis Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    On 26/09/2012 8:28 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
    > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:07:35 -0400, Dave Smith
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> On 25/09/2012 2:02 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
    >> OL...he *is* rather fixated on my vagina, isn't he?
    >>>>
    >>>> It's another Austrian gene pool problem. It's best they don't breed
    >>>> elsewhere.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> It is like everyone in France *after* WWII claiming to have been in
    >>> the Resistance during the war.
    >>>
    >>> Personal revisionist history.

    >>
    >> So true. I knew someone who was in the Danish resistance. He really
    >> was. He was one of the people who helped my father to escape after his
    >> plane was shot down over Denmark. In fact, they had a clandestine radio
    >> transmitter in their house. When I said something to him once about the
    >> number of people in the Danish Resistance... IIRC the number I heard was
    >> 35,000. He said he would like to know where the hell they were when they
    >> needed the help.

    >
    > You mentioned about your dad getting shot down before. It must make
    > for a very impressive story. You should write it up.
    >>
    >> Then there is Holland, which sadly acknowledged that there were far more
    >> Dutch who joined the Freikorps than the Resistance.

    >
    > It is only recently, within the past 5 years or so, that I first
    > learned of this.
    >>
    >> Austria OTOH..... most accounts show that the Germans were welcomed with
    >> open arms, that there was more support for the Nazis there than in much
    >> of Germany. Yet, we are now being told that they were invaded ???? There
    >> was no fighting. It's ironic that people make cracks about the French,
    >> but they did put up a fight. It lasted longer than the fight the Poles
    >> put up. The Austrians seemed to have been more interested in fighting
    >> for the Nazis than against them.
    >>

    > I agree.
    >
    > Boron
    >

    It would be advisable for Michael K to realise that war histories are
    written by the victors, not the losers. The losers might like to rewrite
    their shameful part in the war but it will hold no creedence in the
    wider world. I know some Japanese young people who were totally ignorant
    of Japan's role in WW II. One young Japanese lass found that she learnt
    more about Japan's war history AFTER she left Japan. What she was taught
    in Japan had been thoroughly sanitised. She is now a resident of
    Australia. I suggest Michael leave Austria to find out what really
    happened in his country before and during WW II.

    --

    Krypsis

  14. #14
    Boron Elgar Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:07:42 -0400, Dave Smith
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    >
    >Was that the agreement about the crisis in the Balkans???? Oh no. That
    >was when the British wanted them to come to a conference to discuss the
    >problems but Austria was not interested. They were too buys trying to
    >get Germany to threaten France so that they could move on the Balkans
    >and not worry about the Russians. The Treaty of Versailles prohibited
    >Germany from annexing Austria. I don't know what you expected Britain to
    >do, or why you would expect them to do anything, since Austria was one
    >of the main aggressors in the mess than turned into WWI.
    >
    >Is there any footage of Italians greeting the German soldiers as the
    >Austrians were?



    These Austrian revisionist views are not rare, of course, and the sins
    of the fathers continued into the next generation and beyond insofar
    as attitudes, admissions and actions about reparations. Modern
    Germany, as a whole, has taken a much more public and ethical face-up
    to the past than Austria.

    I have more than a passing interest in it, of course. My grandfather,
    although Hungarian, lived in Vienna and emigrated from there, though
    long before the war. And there are professors of ethics and history in
    the immediate family, so these discussions are frequent.

    Really, it gets to be a sort of joke...like listening to some
    Afrikaner defend apartheid or a Southerner talking about states rights
    and the Civil War.

    Extreme nationalism, racism, bigotry - they are always around us. No
    country is free of these attitudes. It sure is fun to watch this one
    example of extremism implode, though. Ka-boom. All over the kitchen
    walls.

    Boron

  15. #15
    ViLco Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    Boron Elgar wrote:

    > It is like everyone in France *after* WWII claiming to have been in
    > the Resistance during the war.


    Hey, don't forget Italy
    As W. Churchill said: "A strange people the Italians, one day the're 45
    millions of fascists and just the next day they're 45 millions of
    antifascists and partisans."
    --
    Firma predefinita



  16. #16
    Boron Elgar Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:31:04 +0200, "ViLco" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Boron Elgar wrote:
    >
    >> It is like everyone in France *after* WWII claiming to have been in
    >> the Resistance during the war.

    >
    >Hey, don't forget Italy
    >As W. Churchill said: "A strange people the Italians, one day the're 45
    >millions of fascists and just the next day they're 45 millions of
    >antifascists and partisans."


    Indeed!

    Boron

  17. #17
    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    On 25/09/2012 6:28 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:

    >>> Personal revisionist history.

    >>
    >> So true. I knew someone who was in the Danish resistance. He really
    >> was. He was one of the people who helped my father to escape after his
    >> plane was shot down over Denmark. In fact, they had a clandestine radio
    >> transmitter in their house. When I said something to him once about the
    >> number of people in the Danish Resistance... IIRC the number I heard was
    >> 35,000. He said he would like to know where the hell they were when they
    >> needed the help.

    >
    > You mentioned about your dad getting shot down before. It must make
    > for a very impressive story. You should write it up.


    I did.
    http://www.airmen.dk/pdfs/FirsttoSweden.pdf




  18. #18
    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    On 26/09/2012 8:57 AM, Krypsis wrote:


    > It would be advisable for Michael K to realise that war histories are
    > written by the victors, not the losers. The losers might like to rewrite
    > their shameful part in the war but it will hold no creedence in the
    > wider world. I know some Japanese young people who were totally ignorant
    > of Japan's role in WW II. One young Japanese lass found that she learnt
    > more about Japan's war history AFTER she left Japan. What she was taught
    > in Japan had been thoroughly sanitised. She is now a resident of
    > Australia. I suggest Michael leave Austria to find out what really
    > happened in his country before and during WW II.



    Being a baby boomer, I grew up watching programs about the war. Granted,
    we had the North American slant, but most of us had a pretty good
    understanding of the causes and the events. We knew about the air war,
    an attempt to bomb Germany in submission. It was only later, as social
    values changed, that some people questioned the morality of that. We
    regretted the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki only because it
    ushered in the nuclear age, where a war with atomic weapons could
    destroy our planet.

    We didn't regret the use of those bombs on the Japanese. They deserved
    anything they got, and anything to send the war that they started.
    Public attitudes seemed to change about two decades ago and each August
    we would start seeing news articles that upon those atomic bombings
    unfavourably. suggesting that they were war crimes. Nuts to that!!
    Those newspapers and magazines should have been running articles about
    the Japanese aggression in Asia and the atrocities being committed by
    the Japanese soldiers. There were more people systematically raped and
    murdered in the city of Nanking alone than died in both atomic bombings.

    I have to give the Germans credit for having acknowledged the crimes of
    their countrymen and for sharing a national shame over the actions of
    Nazi Germany. We don't see that in Japan. The government has stifled
    the information. Japanese students are not told about their country's
    aggression or about their atrocities. They have tried to paint
    themselves as victims in that war.

    For that matter, there are a number of countries in eastern and western
    Europe who should be a little more remorseful. While Nazi Germans led
    the way, they had a lot of support in some places. While Germany gets
    the blame for the Holocaust and the murder of millions of Jews, Gypsies
    and others, they had no trouble finding people in the occupied
    countries to do their dirty work for them. In some cases, even the
    Germans were appalled at the zeal with which they did that work.








  19. #19
    Boron Elgar Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:50:03 -0400, Dave Smith
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On 25/09/2012 6:28 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
    >
    >>>> Personal revisionist history.
    >>>
    >>> So true. I knew someone who was in the Danish resistance. He really
    >>> was. He was one of the people who helped my father to escape after his
    >>> plane was shot down over Denmark. In fact, they had a clandestine radio
    >>> transmitter in their house. When I said something to him once about the
    >>> number of people in the Danish Resistance... IIRC the number I heard was
    >>> 35,000. He said he would like to know where the hell they were when they
    >>> needed the help.

    >>
    >> You mentioned about your dad getting shot down before. It must make
    >> for a very impressive story. You should write it up.

    >
    >I did.
    >http://www.airmen.dk/pdfs/FirsttoSweden.pdf
    >
    >


    Wow. You must be very proud of him and all those wonderful people who
    helped him.

    This would make a great movie, you know.

    Boron

  20. #20
    Krypsis Guest

    Default Re: For little Moron

    On 26/09/2012 11:42 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
    > On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:31:04 +0200, "ViLco" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Boron Elgar wrote:
    >>
    >>> It is like everyone in France *after* WWII claiming to have been in
    >>> the Resistance during the war.

    >>
    >> Hey, don't forget Italy
    >> As W. Churchill said: "A strange people the Italians, one day the're 45
    >> millions of fascists and just the next day they're 45 millions of
    >> antifascists and partisans."

    >
    > Indeed!
    >
    > Boron
    >

    I agree wholeheartedly. I started reading it and couldn't stop until I
    had finished it. It was a noteworthy feat for the fact that he was the
    first to escape from occupied Denmark. Luck was really on his side the
    whole time I would suggest.

    --

    Krypsis

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