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  1. #1
    Dimitri Guest

    Default Limes for Margaritas

    as a clarification:

    http://www.thenibble.com/REVIEWS/mai...es-of-lime.asp

    Key Limes Or Mexican Limes

    The Key lime originated in southern Asia Indo-Malayan region. It was unknown
    in Europe before the Crusades and it is assumed to have been carried to
    North Africa and the Near East by Arabs, across North Africa into Spain and
    Portugal. It was brought by European Crusaders from Palestine to the
    Mediterranean countries. In the mid-13th century, the lime was cultivated
    and well-known in Italy and probably also in France. It was taken to the
    Americas by Spanish and Portuguese explorers in the early part of the 16th
    century where it became naturalized in southern Florida, parts of the West
    Indies, Mexico and other Caribbean countries (it was reportedly commonly
    grown in Haiti in 1520). Hence, the name Key lime is from the Florida Keys.
    While there is no documentation of the date of entry to Florida, the tree
    was popular in yards of private homes. In 1839, cultivation of limes in
    southern Florida was reported to be "increasing." By 1883 it was being grown
    commercially on a small scale in Orange and Lake Counties.* When pineapple
    cultivation was abandoned in the Florida Keys because of soil depletion and
    the 1906 hurricane, farmers began to plant the limes as a substitute crop
    there, as well as on the islands off Fort Myers on the west coast. The limes
    were pickled in saltwater and shipped to Boston, where they were a popular
    children's snack. (Remember Amy in Little Women pining for some pickled
    limes?)

    This is why I recommend Key Lime juice to make decent margarita.

    Not those nasty green golf balls

    Dimitri


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    zxcvbob Guest

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    Dimitri wrote:
    > as a clarification:
    >
    > http://www.thenibble.com/REVIEWS/mai...es-of-lime.asp
    >
    > Key Limes Or Mexican Limes
    >
    > The Key lime originated in southern Asia Indo-Malayan region. It was
    > unknown in Europe before the Crusades and it is assumed to have been
    > carried to North Africa and the Near East by Arabs, across North Africa
    > into Spain and Portugal. It was brought by European Crusaders from
    > Palestine to the Mediterranean countries. In the mid-13th century, the
    > lime was cultivated and well-known in Italy and probably also in France.
    > It was taken to the Americas by Spanish and Portuguese explorers in the
    > early part of the 16th century where it became naturalized in southern
    > Florida, parts of the West Indies, Mexico and other Caribbean countries
    > (it was reportedly commonly grown in Haiti in 1520). Hence, the name Key
    > lime is from the Florida Keys. While there is no documentation of the
    > date of entry to Florida, the tree was popular in yards of private
    > homes. In 1839, cultivation of limes in southern Florida was reported to
    > be "increasing." By 1883 it was being grown commercially on a small
    > scale in Orange and Lake Counties.* When pineapple cultivation was
    > abandoned in the Florida Keys because of soil depletion and the 1906
    > hurricane, farmers began to plant the limes as a substitute crop there,
    > as well as on the islands off Fort Myers on the west coast. The limes
    > were pickled in saltwater and shipped to Boston, where they were a
    > popular children's snack. (Remember Amy in Little Women pining for some
    > pickled limes?)
    >
    > This is why I recommend Key Lime juice to make decent margarita.
    >
    > Not those nasty green golf balls
    >
    > Dimitri


    I missed the point somewhere. Pickled limes? Margaritas? What are you
    talking about?

    (BTW, that brand of "famous" Key lime juice is not really key limes at
    all, it is Persian lime juice bottled in Key West, FL.)

    Bob

  3. #3
    Sqwertz Guest

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    Dimitri <[email protected]> wrote:

    > This is why I recommend Key Lime juice to make decent margarita.
    >
    > Not those nasty green golf balls


    The problem with the nasty green golf balls is that they vary in
    quality and yield. Some of them are just as good as key limes, but
    key limes are much more consistent.

    I live where I can get key limes by the ton, but I know they're
    scarce in other parts of the country (never saw them in Northern CA
    or South Carolina, e.g.). If it comes down to using bottled key
    lime juice or fresh green golf balls, then I'd choose the nasty
    green golf balls.

    -sw

  4. #4
    Sqwertz Guest

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    zxcvbob <[email protected]> wrote:

    > (BTW, that brand of "famous" Key lime juice is not really key limes at
    > all, it is Persian lime juice bottled in Key West, FL.)


    Nellie and Joe's make a Key West Lime Juice, which is probably what
    you're referring to. They also make a "Key West Lemon Juice". The
    fact that there is no such fruit as a "Key West Lemon", kinda
    supports your theory since the lime is known as a "key lime", not a
    "key west lime". But other than that hint, I'd suspect it really is
    Key Lime.

    Is it really common Persian lime juice?

    -sw

  5. #5
    PickyJaz Guest

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    On Apr 28, 7:46*am, "Dimitri" <Dimitr...@prodigy.net> wrote:
    > as a clarification:
    >
    > http://www.thenibble.com/REVIEWS/mai...es-of-lime.asp
    >
    > Key Limes Or Mexican Limes...SnipTo...
    > This is why I recommend Key Lime juice to make decent margarita.
    >
    > Not those nasty green golf balls

    Thank you, rfc friend!
    ....Picks


  6. #6
    zxcvbob Guest

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    Sqwertz wrote:
    > zxcvbob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> (BTW, that brand of "famous" Key lime juice is not really key limes at
    >> all, it is Persian lime juice bottled in Key West, FL.)

    >
    > Nellie and Joe's make a Key West Lime Juice, which is probably what
    > you're referring to. They also make a "Key West Lemon Juice". The
    > fact that there is no such fruit as a "Key West Lemon", kinda
    > supports your theory since the lime is known as a "key lime", not a
    > "key west lime". But other than that hint, I'd suspect it really is
    > Key Lime.
    >
    > Is it really common Persian lime juice?
    >
    > -sw



    It's either that, or Mexican lime juice (same as key limes) from
    concentrate. Key limes are not grown commercially in Florida anymore.

    From what I remember, the "West" is in small type and easy to miss.
    And the label goes on and on *implying* that it's key lime juice without
    ever saying it. IMHO, there's a little bit of steak there, but mostly
    they are selling the sizzle.

    Bob

  7. #7
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Limes for Margaritas

    On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:46:56 -0700, "Dimitri" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >This is why I recommend Key Lime juice to make decent margarita.
    >
    >Not those nasty green golf balls


    I wish it was as easy to buy key or mexican limes as it is to buy
    meyer lemons!

    --
    I love cooking with wine.
    Sometimes I even put it in the food.

  8. #8
    Christine Dabney Guest

    Default Re: Limes for Margaritas

    On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:51:51 -0700, sf <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:46:56 -0700, "Dimitri" <[email protected]>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>This is why I recommend Key Lime juice to make decent margarita.
    >>
    >>Not those nasty green golf balls

    >
    >I wish it was as easy to buy key or mexican limes as it is to buy
    >meyer lemons!



    Have you tried Mexican markets in the area? I can find them all the
    time in the Mexican markets here.

    I know Monterey Market in Berkeley used to have the pretty often too.

    Christine
    --
    http://nightstirrings.blogspot.com

  9. #9
    cybercat Guest

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    "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:46:56 -0700, "Dimitri" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>This is why I recommend Key Lime juice to make decent margarita.
    >>
    >>Not those nasty green golf balls

    >
    > I wish it was as easy to buy key or mexican limes as it is to buy
    > meyer lemons!
    >

    I wish I could tell the difference between limes! Oh, wait, no I don't. If I
    could I would probably be drinking too much tequila.



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    Sqwertz Guest

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    zxcvbob <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Sqwertz wrote:
    >> zxcvbob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> (BTW, that brand of "famous" Key lime juice is not really key limes at
    >>> all, it is Persian lime juice bottled in Key West, FL.)

    >>
    >> Nellie and Joe's make a Key West Lime Juice, which is probably what
    >> you're referring to. They also make a "Key West Lemon Juice". The
    >> fact that there is no such fruit as a "Key West Lemon", kinda
    >> supports your theory since the lime is known as a "key lime", not a
    >> "key west lime". But other than that hint, I'd suspect it really is
    >> Key Lime.
    >>
    >> Is it really common Persian lime juice?

    >
    > It's either that, or Mexican lime juice (same as key limes) from
    > concentrate. Key limes are not grown commercially in Florida anymore.
    >
    > From what I remember, the "West" is in small type and easy to miss.
    > And the label goes on and on *implying* that it's key lime juice without
    > ever saying it. IMHO, there's a little bit of steak there, but mostly
    > they are selling the sizzle.


    They do have another product called "100% Key Lime Juice". Key
    limes are grown in Mexico, at least. Nothing wrong with calling
    those Key Limes.

    -sw

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    Dimitri Guest

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    "Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > zxcvbob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Sqwertz wrote:
    >>> zxcvbob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> (BTW, that brand of "famous" Key lime juice is not really key limes at
    >>>> all, it is Persian lime juice bottled in Key West, FL.)
    >>>
    >>> Nellie and Joe's make a Key West Lime Juice, which is probably what
    >>> you're referring to. They also make a "Key West Lemon Juice". The
    >>> fact that there is no such fruit as a "Key West Lemon", kinda
    >>> supports your theory since the lime is known as a "key lime", not a
    >>> "key west lime". But other than that hint, I'd suspect it really is
    >>> Key Lime.
    >>>
    >>> Is it really common Persian lime juice?

    >>
    >> It's either that, or Mexican lime juice (same as key limes) from
    >> concentrate. Key limes are not grown commercially in Florida anymore.
    >>
    >> From what I remember, the "West" is in small type and easy to miss.
    >> And the label goes on and on *implying* that it's key lime juice without
    >> ever saying it. IMHO, there's a little bit of steak there, but mostly
    >> they are selling the sizzle.

    >
    > They do have another product called "100% Key Lime Juice". Key
    > limes are grown in Mexico, at least. Nothing wrong with calling
    > those Key Limes.
    >
    > -sw


    SAME LIME.
    Key Limes Or Mexican Limes

    see
    http://www.thenibble.com/REVIEWS/mai...es-of-lime.asp

    Dimitri


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    Dimitri Guest

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    "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:46:56 -0700, "Dimitri" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>This is why I recommend Key Lime juice to make decent margarita.
    >>
    >>Not those nasty green golf balls

    >
    > I wish it was as easy to buy key or mexican limes as it is to buy
    > meyer lemons!
    >
    > --
    > I love cooking with wine.
    > Sometimes I even put it in the food.


    It just depends on the undocumented workers in your area, the more you have
    the more likely to have Mexican limes.

    Dimitri


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    Default User Guest

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    sf wrote:

    > On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:46:56 -0700, "Dimitri" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > This is why I recommend Key Lime juice to make decent margarita.
    > >
    > > Not those nasty green golf balls

    >
    > I wish it was as easy to buy key or mexican limes as it is to buy
    > meyer lemons!


    It's easier here. I never see Meyer lemons, but key limes are available
    fresh in a couple of the supermarket chains. They're expensive, a
    couple bucks for a mesh bag with about dozen of the little things.




    Brian

    --
    Day 86 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project

  14. #14
    blake murphy Guest

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    On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:02:26 -0500, zxcvbob wrote:

    > Dimitri wrote:
    >> as a clarification:
    >>
    >> http://www.thenibble.com/REVIEWS/mai...es-of-lime.asp
    >>
    >> Key Limes Or Mexican Limes
    >>
    >> The Key lime originated in southern Asia Indo-Malayan region. It was
    >> unknown in Europe before the Crusades and it is assumed to have been
    >> carried to North Africa and the Near East by Arabs, across North Africa
    >> into Spain and Portugal. It was brought by European Crusaders from
    >> Palestine to the Mediterranean countries. In the mid-13th century, the
    >> lime was cultivated and well-known in Italy and probably also in France.
    >> It was taken to the Americas by Spanish and Portuguese explorers in the
    >> early part of the 16th century where it became naturalized in southern
    >> Florida, parts of the West Indies, Mexico and other Caribbean countries
    >> (it was reportedly commonly grown in Haiti in 1520). Hence, the name Key
    >> lime is from the Florida Keys. While there is no documentation of the
    >> date of entry to Florida, the tree was popular in yards of private
    >> homes. In 1839, cultivation of limes in southern Florida was reported to
    >> be "increasing." By 1883 it was being grown commercially on a small
    >> scale in Orange and Lake Counties.* When pineapple cultivation was
    >> abandoned in the Florida Keys because of soil depletion and the 1906
    >> hurricane, farmers began to plant the limes as a substitute crop there,
    >> as well as on the islands off Fort Myers on the west coast. The limes
    >> were pickled in saltwater and shipped to Boston, where they were a
    >> popular children's snack. (Remember Amy in Little Women pining for some
    >> pickled limes?)
    >>
    >> This is why I recommend Key Lime juice to make decent margarita.
    >>
    >> Not those nasty green golf balls
    >>
    >> Dimitri

    >
    > I missed the point somewhere. Pickled limes? Margaritas? What are you
    > talking about?
    >
    > (BTW, that brand of "famous" Key lime juice is not really key limes at
    > all, it is Persian lime juice bottled in Key West, FL.)
    >
    > Bob


    well, the nellie and joe's bottle ingredients say key lime juice from
    concentrate. i can't swear to the provenance of the limes, because they
    grow in a lot of places.

    what i *can* attest to is that it is light-years better than the nasty
    realime product. it tastes good, and at three-something for 16 ounces, a
    good value.

    there was an italian product i used to see in a little plastic somewhat
    lime-shaped container that was good, too:

    <http://chilifiestagourmet.com/Sicilia-Lime-Juice-7-oz/M/B0005ZYKCE.htm>

    another site days it is also made from key limes. i seem to recall that it
    was *not* made from concentrate.

    they're both good products, and are undeniably handy and sometimes (often?)
    cheaper than squeezing your own. they both keep well.

    they also have the advantage over rose's in that they have applications
    other than cocktails.

    your pal,
    blake


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    blake murphy Guest

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    On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:52:25 -0700, Dimitri wrote:

    > "Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> zxcvbob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Sqwertz wrote:
    >>>> zxcvbob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> (BTW, that brand of "famous" Key lime juice is not really key limes at
    >>>>> all, it is Persian lime juice bottled in Key West, FL.)
    >>>>
    >>>> Nellie and Joe's make a Key West Lime Juice, which is probably what
    >>>> you're referring to. They also make a "Key West Lemon Juice". The
    >>>> fact that there is no such fruit as a "Key West Lemon", kinda
    >>>> supports your theory since the lime is known as a "key lime", not a
    >>>> "key west lime". But other than that hint, I'd suspect it really is
    >>>> Key Lime.
    >>>>
    >>>> Is it really common Persian lime juice?
    >>>
    >>> It's either that, or Mexican lime juice (same as key limes) from
    >>> concentrate. Key limes are not grown commercially in Florida anymore.
    >>>
    >>> From what I remember, the "West" is in small type and easy to miss.
    >>> And the label goes on and on *implying* that it's key lime juice without
    >>> ever saying it. IMHO, there's a little bit of steak there, but mostly
    >>> they are selling the sizzle.

    >>
    >> They do have another product called "100% Key Lime Juice". Key
    >> limes are grown in Mexico, at least. Nothing wrong with calling
    >> those Key Limes.
    >>
    >> -sw

    >
    > SAME LIME.
    > Key Limes Or Mexican Limes
    >
    > see
    > http://www.thenibble.com/REVIEWS/mai...es-of-lime.asp
    >
    > Dimitri


    jesus louiseus, that's a lotta diffent kinds of limes!

    your pal,
    blake

  16. #16
    blake murphy Guest

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    On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:46:54 -0400, cybercat wrote:

    > "sf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:46:56 -0700, "Dimitri" <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>This is why I recommend Key Lime juice to make decent margarita.
    >>>
    >>>Not those nasty green golf balls

    >>
    >> I wish it was as easy to buy key or mexican limes as it is to buy
    >> meyer lemons!
    >>

    > I wish I could tell the difference between limes! Oh, wait, no I don't. If I
    > could I would probably be drinking too much tequila.


    the body has an efficient method to tell you when you've drank too much
    tequila. it falls down.

    your pal,
    blake

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    Default User Guest

    Default Re: Limes for Margaritas

    blake murphy wrote:

    > On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:02:26 -0500, zxcvbob wrote:


    > > (BTW, that brand of "famous" Key lime juice is not really key limes
    > > at all, it is Persian lime juice bottled in Key West, FL.)


    > well, the nellie and joe's bottle ingredients say key lime juice from
    > concentrate. i can't swear to the provenance of the limes, because
    > they grow in a lot of places.



    I believe that N&J is reconstituted Mexican "key lime" juice. As noted
    in this thread, there's no real commercial production of that sort of
    lime in the Keys anymore. It's a big business in Mexico, they grow the
    small limes and produce concentrate.




    Brian

    --
    Day 86 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project

  18. #18
    Becca Guest

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    blake murphy wrote:
    > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:52:25 -0700, Dimitri wrote:
    >> SAME LIME.
    >> Key Limes Or Mexican Limes
    >>
    >> see
    >> http://www.thenibble.com/REVIEWS/mai...es-of-lime.asp
    >>
    >> Dimitri
    >>

    >
    > jesus louiseus, that's a lotta diffent kinds of limes!
    >
    > your pal,
    > blake
    >


    Never knew there were so many different limes, I have only seen two of
    them.


    When my children were little I would say "Jesus Louiseus." When my
    children heard someone say that in a movie, both of them turned at
    looked at me with surprise. They had never heard anyone else say it.
    After all, I could not curse, being such a lady and all. <snort>


    Becca

  19. #19
    Dan Abel Guest

    Default Re: Limes for Margaritas

    In article <Z4YJl.13108$[email protected]>,
    "Dimitri" <[email protected]> wrote:


    > It just depends on the undocumented workers in your area, the more you have
    > the more likely to have Mexican limes.


    So what do the naturalized citizens or those with green cards from
    Mexico buy instead?

    :-(

    --
    Dan Abel
    Petaluma, California USA
    [email protected]

  20. #20
    cybercat Guest

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    "Dan Abel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > In article <Z4YJl.13108$[email protected]>,
    > "Dimitri" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >> It just depends on the undocumented workers in your area, the more you
    >> have
    >> the more likely to have Mexican limes.

    >
    > So what do the naturalized citizens or those with green cards from
    > Mexico buy instead?
    >
    > :-(
    >


    Budweiser.



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