Thread: Last Jar of Nalley's Pickles I Will Ever Buy

One time on Usenet, "Dave Bugg" <[email protected]> said:
> merryb wrote:

> > Tonight I'm cooking corned beef & cabbage, which in my opinion
> > requires dill pickles to make the meal complete. I bought a jar of
> > Nalley's baby dill pickles as I used the last jar of the ones I made
> > last year. They used to be made close by in Tacoma, but they had moved
> > the pickle making elsewhere. When we looked at the jar to see where
> > they were made, and were disturbed to see they are made in India!
> > WTF???
>
> Well that puts a mark on my childhood memories.

No way! I had no idea. I've bought Nalley's stuff all of my life. I'll
have to check my labels more often...

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On Mar 8, 2:18 pm, merryb <msg...@juno.com> wrote:
> Tonight I'm cooking corned beef & cabbage, which in my opinion
> requires dill pickles to make the meal complete. I bought a jar of
> Nalley's baby dill pickles as I used the last jar of the ones I made
> last year. They used to be made close by in Tacoma, but they had moved
> the pickle making elsewhere. When we looked at the jar to see where
> they were made, and were disturbed to see they are made in India!
> WTF???

Your post got me curious so I did a bit of Googling - looks like we
can add Nalley's to the ever expanding list of onetime family owned/
operated companies that have been gobbled up and then bounced around
between mondo corporate manufacturers. Nalley's has changed hands
several times since 2000, but darned if I could determine who actually
owns it now. The pickle/relish part of the biz seems to have
different ownership than the chili. Part of the original deal
provided for purchasing cukes from NW farmers and continuing to
operate the plant for a couple of years...Thanks to your eagle eyes,
guess we know what's happened to all those American jobs since then.

I'll definitely be squinting at the small print on more grocery
products next time I go shopping. Unless I'm specifically looking for
an imported ethnic food, I prefer to support American made/grown
products, so Nalley's can keep it's darned pickles.

Nancy T

"merryb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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| Tonight I'm cooking corned beef & cabbage, which in my opinion
| requires dill pickles to make the meal complete. I bought a jar of
| Nalley's baby dill pickles as I used the last jar of the ones I made
| last year. They used to be made close by in Tacoma, but they had moved
| the pickle making elsewhere. When we looked at the jar to see where
| they were made, and were disturbed to see they are made in India!
| WTF???

Am I missing something or shouldn't the operative question
be, rather than where are they made, how do they taste?

A lot of companies are moving operations, some for good
economic reasons and some for frivolous savings. The British
standard sauce, HP, is now made in Belgium, not England. Life
goes on. How do they taste?

pavane

> merryb wrote:
> > Tonight I'm cooking corned beef & cabbage, which in my opinion
> > requires dill pickles to make the meal complete. I bought a jar of
> > Nalley's baby dill pickles as I used the last jar of the ones I made
> > last year. They used to be made close by in Tacoma, but they had moved
> > the pickle making elsewhere. When we looked at the jar to see where
> > they were made, and were disturbed to see they are made in India!
> > WTF???

"Perhaps a small local bottling operation could start producing pickles from
cucumbers grown in the area and sell to the stores that used to buy pickles
sold under Bay Valley labels - Nalley's, Farman's and Steinfeld.

Youngquist said that for stores in the area, buying pickles locally would
make sense because otherwise they'd have to buy pickles shipped in from
California, the Midwest - or even India."

http://www.capitalpress.info/main.as...D=618&ArticleI
D=39477&TM=7372.179

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http://tinyurl.com/2jqbzb

On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:06:45 -0500, "pavane" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"merryb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]..
>| Tonight I'm cooking corned beef & cabbage, which in my opinion
>| requires dill pickles to make the meal complete. I bought a jar of
>| Nalley's baby dill pickles as I used the last jar of the ones I made
>| last year. They used to be made close by in Tacoma, but they had moved
>| the pickle making elsewhere. When we looked at the jar to see where
>| they were made, and were disturbed to see they are made in India!
>| WTF???
>
>Am I missing something or shouldn't the operative question
>be, rather than where are they made, how do they taste?
>
>A lot of companies are moving operations, some for good
>economic reasons and some for frivolous savings. The British
>standard sauce, HP, is now made in Belgium, not England. Life
>goes on. How do they taste?

You must be aware that if the product is not produced and packaged in
the United States it is likley to be toxic or, at minimum,
contaminated in some way. Food from europe is only marginally safe;
food from the other countries of the third world is to be avoided at
all cost.

Tom Williams wrote:

> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:06:45 -0500, "pavane" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"merryb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]
> > m...
> > > Tonight I'm cooking corned beef & cabbage, which in my opinion
> > > requires dill pickles to make the meal complete. I bought a jar
> > > of Nalley's baby dill pickles as I used the last jar of the ones
> > > I made last year. They used to be made close by in Tacoma, but
> > > they had moved the pickle making elsewhere. When we looked at
> > > the jar to see where they were made, and were disturbed to see
> > > they are made in India! WTF???
> >
> > Am I missing something or shouldn't the operative question
> > be, rather than where are they made, how do they taste?
> >
> > A lot of companies are moving operations, some for good
> > economic reasons and some for frivolous savings. The British
> > standard sauce, HP, is now made in Belgium, not England. Life
> > goes on. How do they taste?
>
> You must be aware that if the product is not produced and packaged in
> the United States it is likley to be toxic or, at minimum,
> contaminated in some way. Food from europe is only marginally safe;
> food from the other countries of the third world is to be avoided at
> all cost.

I would expect food from Europe to be safer than food from the US.

How does food from Canada compare?

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"Dan Goodman" <[email protected]> wrote in news:47d35f58$0$1119$804603d3
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> How does food from Canada compare?
>

We up here have no standards at all, hell we import stuff from the US that
tells it all.

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On Mar 8, 6:04*pm, ntantiques <ntantiq...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Mar 8, 2:18 pm, merryb <msg...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > Tonight I'm cooking corned beef & cabbage, which in my opinion
> > requires dill pickles to make the meal complete. I bought a jar of
> > Nalley's baby dill pickles as I used the last jar of the ones I made
> > last year. They used to be made close by in Tacoma, but they had moved
> > the pickle making elsewhere. When we looked at the jar to see where
> > they were made, and were disturbed to see they are made in India!
> > WTF???
>
> Your post got me curious so I did a bit of Googling - looks like we
> can add Nalley's to the ever expanding list of onetime family owned/
> operated companies that have been gobbled up and then bounced around
> between mondo corporate manufacturers. Nalley's has changed hands
> several times since 2000, but darned if I could determine who actually
> owns it now. * The pickle/relish part of the biz seems to have
> different ownership than the chili. *Part of the original deal
> provided for purchasing cukes from NW farmers and continuing to
> operate the plant for a couple of years...Thanks to your eagle eyes,
> guess we know what's happened to all those American jobs since then.
>
> *I'll definitely be squinting at the small print on more grocery
> products next time I go shopping. *Unless I'm specifically looking for
> an imported ethnic food, I prefer to support American made/grown
> products, so Nalley's can keep it's darned pickles.
>
> Nancy T

Sad, isn't it? Thanks for your homework on the subject.

On Mar 8, 6:06*pm, "pavane" <pav...@somewhere.rr.com> wrote:
> "merryb" <msg...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]..
> | Tonight I'm cooking corned beef & cabbage, which in my opinion
> | requires dill pickles to make the meal complete. I bought a jar of
> | Nalley's baby dill pickles as I used the last jar of the ones I made
> | last year. They used to be made close by in Tacoma, but they had moved
> | the pickle making elsewhere. When we looked at the jar to see where
> | they were made, and were disturbed to see they are made in India!
> | WTF???
>
> Am I missing something or shouldn't the operative question
> be, rather than where are they made, how do they taste?
>
> A lot of companies are moving operations, some for good
> economic reasons and some for frivolous savings. *The British
> standard sauce, HP, is now made in Belgium, not England. *Life
> goes on. *How do they taste?
>
> pavane

They tasted fine, but that's really not my point. It's just another
reason our country is heading towards a recession if it's not there
already. I guess we are a bit sore here because of the recent decision
of the Air Force/Boeing issue.

"Tom Williams" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> You must be aware that if the product is not produced and packaged in
> the United States it is likley to be toxic or, at minimum,
> contaminated in some way. Food from europe is only marginally safe;

Bull****.

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:45:26 -0800, Tom Williams wrote:

> You must be aware that if the product is not produced and packaged in
> the United States it is likley to be toxic or, at minimum,
> contaminated in some way. Food from europe is only marginally safe;
> food from the other countries of the third world is to be avoided at
> all cost.

Food from the US can be equally as toxic as well. Fact is, more
imported foods are tested by government than locally produced foods.
The notion that all US food is safe is ridiculous.

-sw

"Dan Goodman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Tom Williams wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:06:45 -0500, "pavane" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"merryb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]
>> > m...
>> > > Tonight I'm cooking corned beef & cabbage, which in my opinion
>> > > requires dill pickles to make the meal complete. I bought a jar
>> > > of Nalley's baby dill pickles as I used the last jar of the ones
>> > > I made last year. They used to be made close by in Tacoma, but
>> > > they had moved the pickle making elsewhere. When we looked at
>> > > the jar to see where they were made, and were disturbed to see
>> > > they are made in India! WTF???
>> >
>> > Am I missing something or shouldn't the operative question
>> > be, rather than where are they made, how do they taste?
>> >
>> > A lot of companies are moving operations, some for good
>> > economic reasons and some for frivolous savings. The British
>> > standard sauce, HP, is now made in Belgium, not England. Life
>> > goes on. How do they taste?
>>
>> You must be aware that if the product is not produced and packaged in
>> the United States it is likley to be toxic or, at minimum,
>> contaminated in some way. Food from europe is only marginally safe;
>> food from the other countries of the third world is to be avoided at
>> all cost.
>
> I would expect food from Europe to be safer than food from the US.
>

Eurpoe has vastly stricter food standards. They have purity standards that
we never knew in this country. They refuse to use growth hormones in cows
and chickens for example and they demand labels stating what foods were farm
raised, which contain GMO foods and they stead fastly refuse to allow cloned
animals or Frankenfoods in the food supply.

> How does food from Canada compare?

Pretty good, they also are way above us in food safety standards.

Paul

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ntantiques <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mar 8, 2:18 pm, merryb <msg...@juno.com> wrote:
> > Tonight I'm cooking corned beef & cabbage, which in my opinion
> > requires dill pickles to make the meal complete. I bought a jar of
> > Nalley's baby dill pickles as I used the last jar of the ones I made
> > last year. They used to be made close by in Tacoma, but they had moved
> > the pickle making elsewhere. When we looked at the jar to see where
> > they were made, and were disturbed to see they are made in India!
> > WTF???
>
> Your post got me curious so I did a bit of Googling - looks like we
> can add Nalley's to the ever expanding list of onetime family owned/
> operated companies that have been gobbled up and then bounced around
> between mondo corporate manufacturers. Nalley's has changed hands
> several times since 2000, but darned if I could determine who actually
> owns it now.

It might have something on the jar along the lines of "A division of
Megacorp Foodstuffs", down there in the fine print.

Miche

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On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 20:47:03 -0800 (PST), merryb <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I guess we are a bit sore here because of the recent decision
>of the Air Force/Boeing issue.

That certainly was a big slap in the face.

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On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:25:40 -0600, "tom" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Youngquist said that for stores in the area, buying pickles locally would
>make sense because otherwise they'd have to buy pickles shipped in from
>California, the Midwest - or even India."

Hey, Californians would buy it.

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Dan Goodman wrote:

> How does food from Canada compare?

Because of its location, Canada is a good source of frozen food.


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Miche wrote:

> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> ntantiques <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 8, 2:18 pm, merryb <msg...@juno.com> wrote:
>> > Tonight I'm cooking corned beef & cabbage, which in my opinion
>> > requires dill pickles to make the meal complete. I bought a jar of
>> > Nalley's baby dill pickles as I used the last jar of the ones I made
>> > last year. They used to be made close by in Tacoma, but they had moved
>> > the pickle making elsewhere. When we looked at the jar to see where
>> > they were made, and were disturbed to see they are made in India!
>> > WTF???
>>
>> Your post got me curious so I did a bit of Googling - looks like we
>> can add Nalley's to the ever expanding list of onetime family owned/
>> operated companies that have been gobbled up and then bounced around
>> between mondo corporate manufacturers. Nalley's has changed hands
>> several times since 2000, but darned if I could determine who actually
>> owns it now.
>
> It might have something on the jar along the lines of "A division of
> Megacorp Foodstuffs", down there in the fine print.

The third Google hit on string nalley is at http://birdseyefoods.com.
Nalley Products appears in the dropdown list called "Explore our Brands"
at that site. So I'm thinkin' "Bird Eye Foods" is the answer.


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sf wrote in news:[email protected]:

> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:55:53 GMT, hahabogus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>We up here have no standards at all, hell we import stuff from the US
>>that tells it all.
>
> You're not importing beef, are you?
>

No, actually we send that down to you.

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asked for his balance.

On Mar 8, 9:50 pm, Blinky the Shark <no.s...@box.invalid> wrote:
> Miche wrote:
> > In article
> > <9584cc59-e95a-49f5-ac62-9e5cbd058...@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> > ntantiques <ntantiq...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Mar 8, 2:18 pm, merryb <msg...@juno.com> wrote:
> >> > Tonight I'm cooking corned beef & cabbage, which in my opinion
> >> > requires dill pickles to make the meal complete. I bought a jar of
> >> > Nalley's baby dill pickles as I used the last jar of the ones I made
> >> > last year. They used to be made close by in Tacoma, but they had moved
> >> > the pickle making elsewhere. When we looked at the jar to see where
> >> > they were made, and were disturbed to see they are made in India!
> >> > WTF???
>
> >> Your post got me curious so I did a bit of Googling - looks like we
> >> can add Nalley's to the ever expanding list of onetime family owned/
> >> operated companies that have been gobbled up and then bounced around
> >> between mondo corporate manufacturers. Nalley's has changed hands
> >> several times since 2000, but darned if I could determine who actually
> >> owns it now.
>
> > It might have something on the jar along the lines of "A division of
> > Megacorp Foodstuffs", down there in the fine print.
>
> The third Google hit on string nalley is athttp://birdseyefoods.com.
> Nalley Products appears in the dropdown list called "Explore our Brands"
> at that site. So I'm thinkin' "Bird Eye Foods" is the answer.
>
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Blinky, Birds Eye was only the first of several corporate buyers.
Nalley's is now made by Bay Valley Foods, a private label specialist
that, among other products, bottles a bunch of different brands of
pickle along with store brands. Bay Valley closed its Portland pickle
plant earlier this year which may be when they started shipping
product from India. Funny, their website mentions the virtues of
bottling close to the grower, but doesn't even vaguely mention India.
Guess they'd rather not risk losing a customer base who have been
loyally buying Nalley's pickles for a couple of generations.

http://www.bayvalleyfoods.com/produc...l/pickles.html

Nancy T