Thread: Kids Banned from Restaurant

"Terry Pulliam Burd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Haven't had the "kids do/don't belong in __________ restaurant" thread
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> http://www.king5.com/news/Restaurant...125415763.html

You just feel like stirring things up a bit don't ya? <g>

On 7/12/2011 11:06 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> Haven't had the "kids do/don't belong in __________ restaurant" thread
> in a while:
>
> http://www.king5.com/news/Restaurant...125415763.html

I'd be happy if restaurants had a "loud room" for lively diners. Put
all raucous groups in there, including any party with anyone under age
12.

On Jul 12, 11:06*am, Terry Pulliam Burd <ntpull...@spambot.net> wrote:
> Haven't had the "kids do/don't belong in __________ restaurant" thread
> in a while:
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> http://www.king5.com/news/Restaurant...125415763.html
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
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> To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

I would never (and never did) take my young son to any restaurant
until he mastered what I called "restaurant manners" at home.
Evidently many parents do not subscribe to this in their homes. :-(

Ban children? No, just politely ask the parents of offending children
to control them or leave because they are disturbing other diners.
"Right to refuse service" should be every restauranteer's right!

John Kuthe...

On 7/12/2011 12:20 PM, Hell Toupee wrote:
> On 7/12/2011 11:06 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>> Haven't had the "kids do/don't belong in __________ restaurant" thread
>> in a while:
>>
>> http://www.king5.com/news/Restaurant...125415763.html
>
> I'd be happy if restaurants had a "loud room" for lively diners. Put all
> raucous groups in there, including any party with anyone under age 12.

I had heard of a church that had what it called the "Noisery", sound
baffled but with large windows and loudspeakers to transmit the service!

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James Silverton, Potomac

I'm *not* [email protected]

In article <[email protected]>,
Terry Pulliam Burd <[email protected]> wrote:

> Haven't had the "kids do/don't belong in __________ restaurant" thread
> in a while:
>
> http://www.king5.com/news/Restaurant...125415763.html

They are a private entity and are well within their rights to do so.
People will either love it and business will boom, or enough people will
dislike it and their business will suffer. If it suffers, they will
reconsider their decision or fail. Capitalism at work!

Regards,
Ranee @ Arabian Knits

"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/

In article <ivhs7n$lqs$[email protected]>,
Hell Toupee <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 7/12/2011 11:06 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> > Haven't had the "kids do/don't belong in __________ restaurant" thread
> > in a while:
> >
> > http://www.king5.com/news/Restaurant...125415763.html
>
> I'd be happy if restaurants had a "loud room" for lively diners. Put
> all raucous groups in there, including any party with anyone under age
> 12.

Though, I've had far more dinners ruined by loud adults, especially
tipsy ones, than children. Rich and I went to a wonderful Italian
restaurant with our then two month old baby. The table of adults next
to us glared when they saw our baby, who was nearly silent and never as
loud as them the entire time. Meanwhile, we got to hear about their
adult children's failings and problems, their health ailments and one of
the husband and wife pair airing their marital problems by insulting
each other and behaving boorishly. We were thrilled when they left.

Regards,
Ranee @ Arabian Knits

"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/

On 12/07/2011 12:06 PM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> Haven't had the "kids do/don't belong in __________ restaurant" thread
> in a while:
>
> http://www.king5.com/news/Restaurant...125415763.html
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
More power to them. There are lots of family restaurants where people
can take their kids.

I have seen what young children can do to restaurants. We had a place in
town that used to do a pretty good breakfast, morning coffee break and
lunch business. Most of the customers were men who were on their way to
work or on a break, stayed long enough to have a bite and then left.
Then a group of women with kids started meeting there for coffee. One
cup of coffee and then sit there and chat for an hour or more while
their kids ran around screaming. I was there a couple times while that
was going on and fond a more peaceful place.


A new bakery/coffee shop opened up around the corner. Seating was
limited and there was a play area. I suggested to the owner that he
should get rid of the play area and put in a couple more tables. Oh
no.... can't do that because a bunch of his lady customers wanted it.
Fine. He can sell them a couple cups of coffee and have their kids chase
away the paying customers. He is not in business anymore.

On Jul 12, 10:38*am, Dave Smith <adavid.sm...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On 12/07/2011 12:06 PM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:> Haven't had the "kids do/don't belong in __________ restaurant" thread
> > in a while:
>
> >http://www.king5.com/news/Restaurant...125415763.html
>
> > Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
> More power to them. There are lots of family restaurants where people
> can take their kids.
>
> I have seen what young children can do to restaurants. We had a place in
> town that used to do a pretty good breakfast, morning coffee break and
> lunch business. Most of the customers were men who were on their way to
> work or on a break, stayed long enough to have a bite and then left.
> Then a group of women with kids started meeting there for coffee. One
> cup of coffee and then sit there and chat for an hour or more while
> their kids ran around screaming. I was there a couple times while that
> was going on and fond a more peaceful place.
>
> A new bakery/coffee shop opened up around the corner. Seating was
> limited and there was a play area. I suggested to the owner that he
> should get rid of the play area and put in a couple more tables. *Oh
> no.... can't do that because a bunch of his lady customers wanted it.
> Fine. He can sell them a couple cups of coffee and have their kids chase
> away the paying customers. He is not in business anymore.

***Will Someone Please BAN Chemo the Clown Terd from this NG?...TIA!

"Terry Pulliam Burd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> Haven't had the "kids do/don't belong in __________ restaurant" thread
> in a while:
>
> http://www.king5.com/news/Restaurant...125415763.html
>
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
I'm sorry but IMHO it's the parents who can't control their children who
should be banned. I wrote about this years ago. It was a restaurant in
west Tennessee. It wasn't a "family restaurant". It was more the kind of
place where most people went to have a beer after work. But they also
served really good burgers, battered french fries, hot wings, deep fried
mushrooms. In other words, bar food. Not a place to take the kids. But
bring the kids these people did. This child kept kicking the back of my
seat. I politely asked the mother, would you mind keeping your child from
kicking my seat? I don't know if she couldn't or wouldn't. I definitely
didn't enjoy that meal. My mother would never have let me behave that way
in public.

Jill

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:06:05 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Haven't had the "kids do/don't belong in __________ restaurant" thread
> in a while:
>
> http://www.king5.com/news/Restaurant...125415763.html
>
a. It doesn't look like the type of restaurant that one thinks would
do that, so it must have an older clientele. This will come back to
bite them in the butt. It's better to offer earlybird family specials
before the hours when the grown ups prefer to dine.

b. The comment about no kids in European restaurants is pure rubbish.
I was surprised by how *late* children stay up over there, because I
see 2 year olds in restaurants at 10PM.


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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

In article <ivhtnc$8j2$[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> I had heard of a church that had what it called the "Noisery", sound
> baffled but with large windows and loudspeakers to transmit the service!

One of the churches here has a designated childrens play area right
beside the altar in full view of the congregation, quiet toys
provided..dolls, puzzles, books, crayons and paper. A couple of the
congregation stay with the children and they just play quietly during
services.

Janet.

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:20:09 -0500, Hell Toupee <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I'd be happy if restaurants had a "loud room" for lively diners.

Groups of lively people prefer that too. I hate being pointed to a
section of the room with no other barrier and being told that's where
large parties go (they have the nerve to call it "semi-private).

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:46:08 -0400, James Silverton
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On 7/12/2011 12:20 PM, Hell Toupee wrote:
> > On 7/12/2011 11:06 AM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> >> Haven't had the "kids do/don't belong in __________ restaurant" thread
> >> in a while:
> >>
> >> http://www.king5.com/news/Restaurant...125415763.html
> >
> > I'd be happy if restaurants had a "loud room" for lively diners. Put all
> > raucous groups in there, including any party with anyone under age 12.
>
> I had heard of a church that had what it called the "Noisery", sound
> baffled but with large windows and loudspeakers to transmit the service!

They used to be called "crying" rooms and were a good practice, but
you don't see them much anymore.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.

On 12/07/2011 2:06 PM, sf wrote:
>before the hours when the grown ups prefer to dine.
>
> b. The comment about no kids in European restaurants is pure rubbish.
> I was surprised by how *late* children stay up over there, because I
> see 2 year olds in restaurants at 10PM.
>
>

I can't say that I saw a lot of kids in nice European restaurants.
AAMOF, I didn't see many at all, except in hotel restaurants and at
early seatings.

I did see dogs in restaruants. We had a dinner in a nice restaurant in
Paris and as we were leaving I was surprised to see that there was a dog
seating on a chair at the next table. I had not heard a peep from the
dog. It was better behaved than most children. OTOH, we were in a bar
in a hotel in Gimmelwald Switzerland and a dog fight broke out. I had
seen the Dachshund sitting on his master's lap. I had realized until the
fight that there was a St.Bernard under the table.

On 12/07/2011 2:02 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>

> I'm sorry but IMHO it's the parents who can't control their children who
> should be banned

Are you buy any chance referring to one of the posters here whose
teenage daughter is so bad in restaurants?

On Jul 12, 1:06*pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:06:05 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
>
> <ntpull...@spambot.net> wrote:
> > Haven't had the "kids do/don't belong in __________ restaurant" thread
> > in a while:
>
> >http://www.king5.com/news/Restaurant...125415763.html
>
> a. *It doesn't look like the type of restaurant that one thinks would
> do that, so it must have an older clientele. *This will come back to
> bite them in the butt. *It's better to offer earlybird family specials
> before the hours when the grown ups prefer to dine.
>
>
I read the article earlier in the day I don't think it will hurt their
business at all. Twenty-four of the seats, if I remember correctly,
at this 68 seat restaurant are bar seats. So it's not really geared
to being a 'family' restaurant. So far there has only been one patron
to complain. I'm sure she'll be welcomed to come eat again, just
leave the kid at home or with a sitter.

"Dave Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 12/07/2011 12:06 PM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>> Haven't had the "kids do/don't belong in __________ restaurant" thread
>> in a while:
>>
>> http://www.king5.com/news/Restaurant...125415763.html
>>
>> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>>
> More power to them. There are lots of family restaurants where people can
> take their kids.
>
Take them where they have child seats and playgrounds. McDonald's or Burger
King.

> I have seen what young children can do to restaurants. We had a place in
> town that used to do a pretty good breakfast, morning coffee break and
> lunch business. Most of the customers were men who were on their way to
> work or on a break, stayed long enough to have a bite and then left. Then
> a group of women with kids started meeting there for coffee. One cup of
> coffee and then sit there and chat for an hour or more while their kids
> ran around screaming. I was there a couple times while that was going on
> and fond a more peaceful place.
>
It's the parents who are at fault, letting their kids run around screaming
while they ignore them. Tell the kids to sit down and shut up!

I would never have been allowed to behave like that in public. My mother
would have hauled me out of the restaurant and swatted my behind.

Jill

"Dave Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 12/07/2011 2:02 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>
>> I'm sorry but IMHO it's the parents who can't control their children who
>> should be banned
>
> Are you buy any chance referring to one of the posters here whose teenage
> daughter is so bad in restaurants?
>
>
No, I'm talking about toddlers. Kids who shouldn't be in restaurants whose
parents can't (or won't control them. I had a 2-3 year old tossing french
fries coated in ketchup at me. Kicking the back of my seat (I was sitting
in a booth). It was really an unpleasant dining experience.

Jill

In article <[email protected]>,
"jmcquown" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "Dave Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:AE%Sp.28878$[email protected] om...
> > On 12/07/2011 12:06 PM, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> >> Haven't had the "kids do/don't belong in __________ restaurant" thread
> >> in a while:
> >>
> >> http://www.king5.com/news/Restaurant...125415763.html
> >>
> >> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
> >>
> > More power to them. There are lots of family restaurants where people can
> > take their kids.
> >
> Take them where they have child seats and playgrounds. McDonald's or Burger
> King.

I disagree with this approach entirely and think it not only teaches
children to eat poorly, but reinforces their bad behavior in public. If
restaurants are places with play areas, how do they learn to behave in
restaurants without them? We rarely, rarely take our children to such
places. We don't go to restaurants with them much at all, but we take
them to places with real food where they sit down. Sometimes one of us
has to take an infant or toddler out of the restaurant, or just hold the
infant. We don't go if the children aren't behaving well already.

Regards,
Ranee @ Arabian Knits

"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/