Thread: KA Question

Squeaks wrote:

> I have never been happy with one aspect of my KA stand mixer: the flat
> beater doesn't clean the sides or bottom of the bowl. I have to stop it
> periodically and run a rubber spatula down the sides and bottom to bring
> in the unincorporated ingredients. It also makes a clanging noise, but I
> can't figure out what it could possibly be clanging *against* if it's not
> cleaning the bottom or sides of the bowl. The manual says it's "adjusted
> at the factory so that the flat beater just clears the bottom of the bowl"
> and then gives instructions for adjusting the clearance if it's too far
> away from the bowl, which it appears to be, *but* what's making the
> clanging sound?
>
> I will cheerfully admit that I am the least mechanically ept person I know
> (my boss is ever alert to my occasional physical assaults on various
> pieces of recalcitrant office equipment, as my "fix-it" repertoire is
> limited to giving the offending equipment a good whack). But given the
> "clanging," dare I use the suggested method of turning the screw slightly
> to the right? And how "slight" is "slightly"? 1/4 turn? 1/2 turn? I have
> visions of getting it so utterly out of plumb that I might as well throw
> it out and start over ;-D

The problem is endemic to KitchenAid mixers. An enterprising manufacturer is
taking advantage of that problem by selling a beater which *will* clean the
sides of the bowl:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...l/-/B0015TMHFG

Bob
P.S.: I think the opposite of "inept" is "adept," not "ept." Merriam-Webster
didn't come up with a definition of "ept," but I think it's a brand of
pregnancy test.

Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
> I have never been happy with one aspect of my KA stand mixer: the flat
> beater doesn't clean the sides or bottom of the bowl. I have to stop
> it periodically and run a rubber spatula down the sides and bottom to
> bring in the unincorporated ingredients. It also makes a clanging
> noise, but I can't figure out what it could possibly be clanging
> *against* if it's not cleaning the bottom or sides of the bowl. The
> manual says it's "adjusted at the factory so that the flat beater just
> clears the bottom of the bowl" and then gives instructions for
> adjusting the clearance if it's too far away from the bowl, which it
> appears to be, *but* what's making the clanging sound?
>
> I will cheerfully admit that I am the least mechanically ept person I
> know (my boss is ever alert to my occasional physical assaults on
> various pieces of recalcitrant office equipment, as my "fix-it"
> repertoire is limited to giving the offending equipment a good whack).
> But given the "clanging," dare I use the suggested method of turning
> the screw slightly to the right? And how "slight" is "slightly"? 1/4
> turn? 1/2 turn? I have visions of getting it so utterly out of plumb
> that I might as well throw it out and start over ;-D
>
> TIA,
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>
Go to alt.bread.recipes. There is a poster there that regularly takes apart
his KA for maintenance and has published directions for various problems
somewhere on the web. I can't remember which male poster it is. If Dee Dee
is reading this, she may remember.
Janet

In article <[email protected]>,
Terry Pulliam Burd <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have never been happy with one aspect of my KA stand mixer: the flat
> beater doesn't clean the sides or bottom of the bowl. I have to stop
> it periodically and run a rubber spatula down the sides and bottom to
> bring in the unincorporated ingredients. It also makes a clanging
> noise, but I can't figure out what it could possibly be clanging
> *against* if it's not cleaning the bottom or sides of the bowl. The
> manual says it's "adjusted at the factory so that the flat beater just
> clears the bottom of the bowl" and then gives instructions for
> adjusting the clearance if it's too far away from the bowl, which it
> appears to be, *but* what's making the clanging sound?

Start it up dry, and slide a piece of paper down the side; you'll
quickly find out where (or if) the beater is hitting anywhere. That'll
tell you how to adjust that little screw.

Isaac

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>
> Squeaks wrote:
>
> > I have never been happy with one aspect of my KA stand mixer: the flat
> > beater doesn't clean the sides or bottom of the bowl. I have to stop it
> > periodically and run a rubber spatula down the sides and bottom to bring
> > in the unincorporated ingredients. It also makes a clanging noise, but I
> > can't figure out what it could possibly be clanging *against* if it's not
> > cleaning the bottom or sides of the bowl. The manual says it's "adjusted
> > at the factory so that the flat beater just clears the bottom of the bowl"
> > and then gives instructions for adjusting the clearance if it's too far
> > away from the bowl, which it appears to be, *but* what's making the
> > clanging sound?
> >
> > I will cheerfully admit that I am the least mechanically ept person I know
> > (my boss is ever alert to my occasional physical assaults on various
> > pieces of recalcitrant office equipment, as my "fix-it" repertoire is
> > limited to giving the offending equipment a good whack). But given the
> > "clanging," dare I use the suggested method of turning the screw slightly
> > to the right? And how "slight" is "slightly"? 1/4 turn? 1/2 turn? I have
> > visions of getting it so utterly out of plumb that I might as well throw
> > it out and start over ;-D
>
> The problem is endemic to KitchenAid mixers. An enterprising manufacturer is
> taking advantage of that problem by selling a beater which *will* clean the
> sides of the bowl:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...l/-/B0015TMHFG
>
> Bob

Yep, there are a few new-fangled 'beaters' with silicone-like baffles
that will fit the stand mixer, subject to the specific model. Check
around because the prices vary significantly.

Sky

--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:32:24 -0700, "Janet Bostwick"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
>> I have never been happy with one aspect of my KA stand mixer: the flat
>> beater doesn't clean the sides or bottom of the bowl. I have to stop
>> it periodically and run a rubber spatula down the sides and bottom to
>> bring in the unincorporated ingredients. It also makes a clanging
>> noise, but I can't figure out what it could possibly be clanging
>> *against* if it's not cleaning the bottom or sides of the bowl. The
>> manual says it's "adjusted at the factory so that the flat beater just
>> clears the bottom of the bowl" and then gives instructions for
>> adjusting the clearance if it's too far away from the bowl, which it
>> appears to be, *but* what's making the clanging sound?
>>
>> I will cheerfully admit that I am the least mechanically ept person I
>> know (my boss is ever alert to my occasional physical assaults on
>> various pieces of recalcitrant office equipment, as my "fix-it"
>> repertoire is limited to giving the offending equipment a good whack).
>> But given the "clanging," dare I use the suggested method of turning
>> the screw slightly to the right? And how "slight" is "slightly"? 1/4
>> turn? 1/2 turn? I have visions of getting it so utterly out of plumb
>> that I might as well throw it out and start over ;-D
>>
>> TIA,
>> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
>>
>Go to alt.bread.recipes. There is a poster there that regularly takes apart
>his KA for maintenance and has published directions for various problems
>somewhere on the web. I can't remember which male poster it is. If Dee Dee
>is reading this, she may remember.
>Janet
>


Barry Harmon
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

The Cook wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:32:24 -0700, "Janet Bostwick"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
snip
>> Go to alt.bread.recipes. There is a poster there that regularly
>> takes apart his KA for maintenance and has published directions for
>> various problems somewhere on the web. I can't remember which male
>> poster it is. If Dee Dee is reading this, she may remember.
>> Janet
>>
>
>
> Barry Harmon
> --
> Susan N.
Thank you -- my memory is like a sieve these days. Still a decent resource,
don't you think???
Janet

In article <[email protected]>,
Terry Pulliam Burd <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have never been happy with one aspect of my KA stand mixer: the flat
> beater doesn't clean the sides or bottom of the bowl. I have to stop
> it periodically and run a rubber spatula down the sides and bottom to
> bring in the unincorporated ingredients. It also makes a clanging
> noise, but I can't figure out what it could possibly be clanging
> *against* if it's not cleaning the bottom or sides of the bowl. The
> manual says it's "adjusted at the factory so that the flat beater just
> clears the bottom of the bowl" and then gives instructions for
> adjusting the clearance if it's too far away from the bowl, which it
> appears to be, *but* what's making the clanging sound?

> TIA,
> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

Oooooh, I think CI recently reviewed some 3rd party beaters designed to
solve just that problem. Google "beater blade for Kitchen Aid." Lots
of hits.

Clanging sound? Ida Know.

--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller
Glorified Rice 2-24-2009

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:37:09 -0700, "Janet Bostwick"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The Cook wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:32:24 -0700, "Janet Bostwick"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>snip
>>> Go to alt.bread.recipes. There is a poster there that regularly
>>> takes apart his KA for maintenance and has published directions for
>>> various problems somewhere on the web. I can't remember which male
>>> poster it is. If Dee Dee is reading this, she may remember.
>>> Janet
>>>
>>
>>
>> Barry Harmon
>> --
>> Susan N.
>Thank you -- my memory is like a sieve these days. Still a decent resource,
>don't you think???
>Janet
>

Absolutely. I need to take mine apart and add grease. He has the
whole procedure with pictures.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:37:36 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have never been happy with one aspect of my KA stand mixer: the flat
>beater doesn't clean the sides or bottom of the bowl. I have to stop
>it periodically and run a rubber spatula down the sides and bottom to
>bring in the unincorporated ingredients. It also makes a clanging
>noise, but I can't figure out what it could possibly be clanging
>*against* if it's not cleaning the bottom or sides of the bowl. The
>manual says it's "adjusted at the factory so that the flat beater just
>clears the bottom of the bowl" and then gives instructions for
>adjusting the clearance if it's too far away from the bowl, which it
>appears to be, *but* what's making the clanging sound?
>
>I will cheerfully admit that I am the least mechanically ept person I
>know (my boss is ever alert to my occasional physical assaults on
>various pieces of recalcitrant office equipment, as my "fix-it"
>repertoire is limited to giving the offending equipment a good whack).
>But given the "clanging," dare I use the suggested method of turning
>the screw slightly to the right? And how "slight" is "slightly"? 1/4
>turn? 1/2 turn? I have visions of getting it so utterly out of plumb
>that I might as well throw it out and start over ;-D
>
>TIA,
>Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

This may not be helpful but... our KA made a clanging sound when the
wire whisk was used, but not with the paddle. Turns out that one of
the wires of the whisk was bent. The paddle is too stout to bend, but
I wonder if perhaps the shaft on which the paddle fits is worn, or
perhaps a gear is worn that is allowing the paddle to tilt off-axis.
Just a guess.

As I understand it, turning the screw merely raises or lowers the
mixer head, it's not like it's something that can't be undone. If 1/4
turn doesn't work, do another 1/4 turn, and another, etc., keeping
track of the number of quarter-turns. If there is no improvement
after a turn or so, turn the screw left the same amount that it was
turned right. You should be back where you started.

Best --- The Other Terry

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:37:36 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have never been happy with one aspect of my KA stand mixer: the flat
>beater doesn't clean the sides or bottom of the bowl. I have to stop
>it periodically and run a rubber spatula down the sides and bottom to
>bring in the unincorporated ingredients. It also makes a clanging
>noise, but I can't figure out what it could possibly be clanging
>*against* if it's not cleaning the bottom or sides of the bowl. The
>manual says it's "adjusted at the factory so that the flat beater just
>clears the bottom of the bowl" and then gives instructions for
>adjusting the clearance if it's too far away from the bowl, which it
>appears to be, *but* what's making the clanging sound?
>

Buy the new " Beater Blade" for your KitchenAid. It takes care of
needing to scrape the bowl... I just love my new one. They come for
all sizes of the KitchenAid, and I think even for a Viking. They are
the hottest new thing to come along for the KitchenAid stand mixer.


Christine
--
http://nightstirrings.blogspot.com

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:38:51 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
<[email protected]> wrote:


>Oooooh, I think CI recently reviewed some 3rd party beaters designed to
>solve just that problem. Google "beater blade for Kitchen Aid." Lots
>of hits.

I bought one. Love it!!!!

Christine
--
http://nightstirrings.blogspot.com

Christine wrote on Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:18:27 -0700:

>> I have never been happy with one aspect of my KA stand mixer: the
>> flat beater doesn't clean the sides or bottom of the bowl. I
>> have to stop it periodically and run a rubber spatula down
>> the sides and bottom to bring in the unincorporated
>> ingredients. It also makes a clanging noise, but I can't
>> figure out what it could possibly be clanging *against* if
>> it's not cleaning the bottom or sides of the bowl. The manual
>> says it's "adjusted at the factory so that the flat beater
>> just clears the bottom of the bowl" and then gives
>> instructions for adjusting the clearance if it's too far away
>> from the bowl, which it appears to be, *but* what's making
>> the clanging sound?
>>
> Buy the new " Beater Blade" for your KitchenAid. It takes
> care of needing to scrape the bowl... I just love my new one.
> They come for all sizes of the KitchenAid, and I think even
> for a Viking. They are the hottest new thing to come along
> for the KitchenAid stand mixer.

That's an interesting tip. I'll have to look for the blade. Thanks!

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:59:44 -0500, The Cook wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:37:09 -0700, "Janet Bostwick"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>

>>Thank you -- my memory is like a sieve these days. Still a decent resource,
>>don't you think???
>>Janet
>>
>
> Absolutely. I need to take mine apart and add grease. He has the
> whole procedure with pictures.

i thought for a second there you were talking about your memory.

your pal,
blake

On Feb 26, 2:30*am, Sky <skyho...@NOsbcglobal.SnPeAtM> wrote:
> Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>
> > Squeaks wrote:
>
> > > I have never been happy with one aspect of my KA stand mixer: the flat
> > > beater doesn't clean the sides or bottom of the bowl. I have to stop it
> > > periodically and run a rubber spatula down the sides and bottom to bring
> > > in the unincorporated ingredients. It also makes a clanging noise, but I
> > > can't figure out what it could possibly be clanging *against* if it'snot
> > > cleaning the bottom or sides of the bowl. The manual says it's "adjusted
> > > at the factory so that the flat beater just clears the bottom of the bowl"
> > > and then gives instructions for adjusting the clearance if it's too far
> > > away from the bowl, which it appears to be, *but* what's making the
> > > clanging sound?
>
> > > I will cheerfully admit that I am the least mechanically ept person Iknow
> > > (my boss is ever alert to my occasional physical assaults on various
> > > pieces of recalcitrant office equipment, as my "fix-it" repertoire is
> > > limited to giving the offending equipment a good whack). But given the
> > > "clanging," dare I use the suggested method of turning the screw slightly
> > > to the right? And how "slight" is "slightly"? 1/4 turn? 1/2 turn? I have
> > > visions of getting it so utterly out of plumb that I might as well throw
> > > it out and start over ;-D
>
> > The problem is endemic to KitchenAid mixers. An enterprising manufacturer is
> > taking advantage of that problem by selling a beater which *will* cleanthe
> > sides of the bowl:
>
> >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...l/-/B0015TMHFG
>
> > Bob
>
> Yep, there are a few new-fangled 'beaters' with silicone-like baffles
> that will fit the stand mixer, subject to the specific model. *Check
> around because the prices vary significantly.
>
> Sky
>
> --
> Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
> Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

For the 5 Qt. bowl lift model, $29.95 or thereabouts is the only price
I found among 6 or 7 vendors. Not too much difference, I'd say. The
tilt-head mixer model beaters are about $5 less.

N.

blake murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:59:44 -0500, The Cook wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:37:09 -0700, "Janet Bostwick"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>
>>> Thank you -- my memory is like a sieve these days. Still a decent
>>> resource, don't you think???
>>> Janet
>>>
>>
>> Absolutely. I need to take mine apart and add grease. He has the
>> whole procedure with pictures.
>
> i thought for a second there you were talking about your memory.
>
> your pal,
> blake

Well, that too ;o}
Janet

Christine Dabney wrote:

> I bought one. Love it!!!!

Everything I've found is third-party. I wonder why KA didn't figure this
out themselves?

Which brand did you go with?

We recently used the beater attachment and noticed the same thing others
have (no clanging though) and wondered if I got the thing out of
adjustment using the grinder attachment. The beater is not one we use
often at all -- I've got a hand mixer I like for that stuff. Nice to
know that it's a widespread problem and I didn't injure the KA.


--Lin

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:31:00 -0700, "Janet Bostwick"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>blake murphy wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:59:44 -0500, The Cook wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:37:09 -0700, "Janet Bostwick"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> Thank you -- my memory is like a sieve these days. Still a decent
>>>> resource, don't you think???
>>>> Janet
>>>>
>>>
>>> Absolutely. I need to take mine apart and add grease. He has the
>>> whole procedure with pictures.
>>
>> i thought for a second there you were talking about your memory.
>>
>> your pal,
>> blake
>
>Well, that too ;o}
>Janet
>
Ditto!
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

Janet wrote on Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:31:00 -0700:

> blake murphy wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:59:44 -0500, The Cook wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:37:09 -0700, "Janet Bostwick"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you -- my memory is like a sieve these days. Still a
>>>> decent resource, don't you think??? Janet
>>>>
>>> Absolutely. I need to take mine apart and add grease. He
>>> has the whole procedure with pictures.
>>
>> i thought for a second there you were talking about your
>> memory.

It would be interesting to see those instructions. I did just that once,
20 years ago but did not keep sketches or notes. As I recall, it was not
particularly difficult but the gearing certainly had become very dry.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:46:08 GMT, "James Silverton"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Janet wrote on Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:31:00 -0700:
>
>> blake murphy wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:59:44 -0500, The Cook wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:37:09 -0700, "Janet Bostwick"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you -- my memory is like a sieve these days. Still a
>>>>> decent resource, don't you think??? Janet
>>>>>
>>>> Absolutely. I need to take mine apart and add grease. He
>>>> has the whole procedure with pictures.
>>>
>>> i thought for a second there you were talking about your
>>> memory.
>
>It would be interesting to see those instructions. I did just that once,
>20 years ago but did not keep sketches or notes. As I recall, it was not
>particularly difficult but the gearing certainly had become very dry.

For those who are interested.

http://www.artisanbreadbaking.com/di...itchen-aid.htm
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)