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    ChattyCathy Guest

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    When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?

    When it involves more than 4 ingredients (and none of them out of a
    can)? Or if the method/instructions are longer than 2 lines? Or maybe
    if it takes more than 3 minutes prep.? Or whatever.

    Just curious...
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    Cheers
    Chatty Cathy

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    Dimitri Guest

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    "ChattyCathy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?
    >
    > When it involves more than 4 ingredients (and none of them out of a
    > can)? Or if the method/instructions are longer than 2 lines? Or maybe
    > if it takes more than 3 minutes prep.? Or whatever.
    >
    > Just curious...
    > --
    > Cheers
    > Chatty Cathy


    I don't think as recipe can be too complicated - I do however think one can
    so distort the flavor of the base ingredient one can ruin the the dish.


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    Dimitri

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    Zeppo Guest

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    "ChattyCathy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:nYTin.2353$[email protected]..
    > When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?
    >
    > When it involves more than 4 ingredients (and none of them out of a
    > can)? Or if the method/instructions are longer than 2 lines? Or maybe
    > if it takes more than 3 minutes prep.? Or whatever.
    >
    > Just curious...
    > --
    > Cheers
    > Chatty Cathy


    Depends, if I'm trying to put dinner on the table during the week, then too
    complicated would be anything that would take longer than an hour to
    complete, from fridge to plate, or anything so demanding I could
    simultaneously prepare sides or make a salad.

    During the weekend I'll usually welcome the challenge, schedule permitting.
    Some of the stuff I've done has been 3 hours of intensive prep and cooking
    for one dish (butternut squash and wild mushroom lasagna). More than that I
    think I would have felt like it was too much.

    Jon



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    Zeppo Guest

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    "Zeppo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > "ChattyCathy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:nYTin.2353$[email protected]..
    >> When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?
    >>
    >> When it involves more than 4 ingredients (and none of them out of a
    >> can)? Or if the method/instructions are longer than 2 lines? Or maybe
    >> if it takes more than 3 minutes prep.? Or whatever.
    >>
    >> Just curious...
    >> --
    >> Cheers
    >> Chatty Cathy

    >
    > Depends, if I'm trying to put dinner on the table during the week, then
    > too complicated would be anything that would take longer than an hour to
    > complete, from fridge to plate, or anything so demanding I could
    > simultaneously prepare sides or make a salad.



    Sorry, make that *couldn't* simultaneously prepare sides or make a salad.

    Jon


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    Omelet Guest

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    In article <nYTin.2353$[email protected]>,
    ChattyCathy <[email protected]> wrote:

    > When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?
    >
    > When it involves more than 4 ingredients (and none of them out of a
    > can)? Or if the method/instructions are longer than 2 lines? Or maybe
    > if it takes more than 3 minutes prep.? Or whatever.
    >
    > Just curious...


    <grins> I'm sure you have seen my cookalong series. It's hardly 4
    ingredients.;-) Too many steps may turn me off, but never the number
    of ingredients unless one or more of them turns me off.

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    Default User Guest

    Default Re: "Jimmy Tango" recipes...

    ChattyCathy wrote:

    > When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?
    >
    > When it involves more than 4 ingredients (and none of them out of a
    > can)? Or if the method/instructions are longer than 2 lines? Or maybe
    > if it takes more than 3 minutes prep.? Or whatever.
    >
    > Just curious...


    When it's more work than it's worth. I've never been tempted to make
    strudel from scratch.




    Brian

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    Michael \Dog3\ Guest

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    ChattyCathy <[email protected]> news:nYTin.2353$ao7.40
    @newsfe21.iad: in rec.food.cooking

    > When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?
    >
    > When it involves more than 4 ingredients (and none of them out of a
    > can)? Or if the method/instructions are longer than 2 lines? Or maybe
    > if it takes more than 3 minutes prep.? Or whatever.
    >
    > Just curious...


    Anything to do with baking from scratch except artisan bread.

    Michael

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    Food Snob® Guest

    Default Re: "Jimmy Tango" recipes...

    On Mar 1, 12:46*pm, ChattyCathy <cathy1...@mailinator.com> wrote:
    > When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?
    >
    > When it involves more than 4 ingredients (and none of them out of a
    > can)? Or if the method/instructions are longer than 2 lines? Or maybe
    > if it takes more than 3 minutes prep.? Or whatever.



    "4 ingredients (and none of them out of a can)" is good. So is five
    or six "ingredients (and none of them out of a can)." Too many
    ingredients, and flavors get muddled, and it becomes slop.

    I guess I didn't really answer the question.
    >
    > Just curious...
    > --
    > Cheers
    > Chatty Cathy


    --Bryan

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    Wayne Boatwright Guest

    Default Re: "Jimmy Tango" recipes...

    On Mon 01 Mar 2010 11:46:37a, ChattyCathy told us...

    > When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?
    >
    > When it involves more than 4 ingredients (and none of them out of a
    > can)? Or if the method/instructions are longer than 2 lines? Or maybe
    > if it takes more than 3 minutes prep.? Or whatever.
    >
    > Just curious...


    When I have the time, the complexity of ingredients, method, or
    instructions are of no consequence. However, I don't like dealing with
    recipes that require a huge amount of last minute preparation before
    serving, particularly if entertaining.

    I don't like being rushed, so coming home after work to prepare a complete
    meal usually means recipes that have fewer ingredients, easier preparation,
    and quicker cooking time.

    I love to bake, and baking bread is therapeutic for me. I also love baking
    cakes and pies. However, making and stretching strudel dough and the
    endless rolling and folding of puff pastry are both tedious and time
    consuming. Although I make them occasionally, I don't enjoy making those.

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    Leonard Blaisdell Guest

    Default Re: "Jimmy Tango" recipes...

    In article <nYTin.2353$[email protected]>,
    ChattyCathy <[email protected]> wrote:

    > When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?


    I put mashed potatoes right on the edge. Their saving grace is that I
    can cook them ahead of time, put them in a shallow bowl with a big gob
    of butter on top, refrigerate, clean up the utensils and reheat them
    while the rest of the dinner is being prepared. Lucky for them.

    leo

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    ChattyCathy Guest

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    Dimitri wrote:

    >
    > I don't think as recipe can be too complicated - I do however think
    > one can so distort the flavor of the base ingredient one can ruin the
    > the dish.
    >
    >


    When you say 'distort the flavor' do you mean by adding stuff you
    shouldn't or by adding too much of a certain herb/spice that is listed
    in the ingredients?

    FWIW, a recipe only seems "too complicated" to me if it contains a whole
    bunch of ingredients I have to 'hunt down' (or simply cannot obtain in
    my neck of the woods). I don't find a 'long' list of ingredients
    daunting and I'm not too fussy about prep time; I quite enjoy it, in
    fact. Obviously it depends whether I'm cooking for guests and am
    strapped for time, or whether I've got the time to chop, chop, chop
    <eg>. I keep quite a wide variety of (dried) herbs and spices at hand -
    and if a recipe calls for sesame seeds, star anise or cardamom, for
    example, I usually have some ;-)
    --
    Cheers
    Chatty Cathy

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    ChattyCathy Guest

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    Food Snob® wrote:

    >
    > "4 ingredients (and none of them out of a can)" is good. So is five
    > or six "ingredients (and none of them out of a can)." Too many
    > ingredients, and flavors get muddled, and it becomes slop.


    Not always, Bryan. Take the recipe I use for Green Curry Paste; it has a
    list of 11 ingredients and still has a great flavor (and quite
    a 'bite')...

    Green Curry Paste

    1 teaspoon Cumin seeds
    1 teaspoon Coriander seeds
    6 Fresh green chillies - chopped
    1 tablespoon Chopped lemon grass
    1 teaspoon Chopped coriander root
    1 tablespoon Chopped shallots
    1 tablespoon Chopped garlic
    1 teaspoon Chopped galangal
    7 Peppercorns
    1 teaspoon Salt
    1 teaspoon Shrimp paste

    Place the cumin and coriander seeds in a pan, without adding any oil.
    Dry-fry them, stirring, for 1 to 2 minutes until they are aromatic and
    slightly browned.

    Pound them with the remaining ingredients to produce a fine paste.

    --
    Cheers
    Chatty Cathy

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    ViLco Guest

    Default Re: "Jimmy Tango" recipes...

    Default User wrote:

    > When it's more work than it's worth. I've never been tempted to make
    > strudel from scratch.


    Well, makes some sense, but at least once in a lifetime one should try it. I
    did it a couple of times from scratch, the other times I buy frozen or
    refrigerated pastry from the shop and just take care of the filling.
    --
    Vilco
    Don't think pink: drink rosè




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    heyjoe Guest

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    On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:46:37 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote:

    > When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?


    Any recipe that calls for saffron.

    Recipes that require fresh produce, eg. tomatoes, out of season.

    Recipes that call for items that require a special trip to the store.

    Recipes that call for equipment/hardware I don't have and won't buy because
    it's only used once or twice a year.



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    Food Snob® Guest

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    On Mar 2, 1:27*am, ChattyCathy <cathy1...@mailinator.com> wrote:
    > Food Snob® wrote:
    >
    > > "4 ingredients (and none of them out of a can)" *is good. *So is five
    > > or six "ingredients (and none of them out of a can)." *Too many
    > > ingredients, and flavors get muddled, and it becomes slop.

    >
    > Not always, Bryan. Take the recipe I use for Green Curry Paste; it has a
    > list of 11 ingredients and still has a great flavor (and quite
    > a 'bite')...
    >
    > Green Curry Paste
    >
    > 1 teaspoon Cumin seeds
    > 1 teaspoon Coriander seeds
    > 6 Fresh green chillies - chopped
    > 1 tablespoon Chopped lemon grass
    > 1 teaspoon Chopped coriander root
    > 1 tablespoon Chopped shallots
    > 1 tablespoon Chopped garlic
    > 1 teaspoon Chopped galangal
    > 7 Peppercorns
    > 1 teaspoon Salt
    > 1 teaspoon Shrimp paste
    >
    > Place the cumin and coriander seeds in a pan, without adding any oil.
    > Dry-fry them, stirring, for 1 to 2 minutes until they are aromatic and
    > slightly browned.
    >
    > Pound them with the remaining ingredients to produce a fine paste.


    Curries are nearly always like that, no?

    In the USA, we have billboards along rural stretches of highways
    advertising motels. Sometimes they will say, "American owned," which
    translates into, not owned by folks from the Indian subcontinent. It
    would be easy to think, typical American racism, but really what it
    means is that the place doesn't smell like curry. Also, and this is a
    stereotype I have also found to be true, Pakistani and Indian owned
    motels are also much more likely to be heavily perfumed from cleaning
    chemicals, and often it's a mix of the two that makes staying there
    really unpleasant. I am not racist, but I won't stay in a motel that
    reeks of curry, heavy cleaning chemicals or both. I will also pay a
    bit extra to make a reservation at a motel that is completely smoke
    free.

    I'm curious, how many of the non-N. Americans who read/post here have
    come over here to the USA and/or Canada to experience our wide open
    spaces? Particularly the American Southwest is spectacular, and I
    don't know about airfare, but once one gets here, it's not very
    expensive. Two people can easily get a rental car, lodging, food, pay
    for gasoline and pay small entry fees to some parks (many are free)
    for around $200-300/day, less if you sleep in a tent--or in your seat
    on a train--every other day or so. USA Dollars are pretty cheap right
    now, and rail passes are cheap too:
    http://tickets.amtrak.com/itd/amtrak/selectpass

    I'm not a hugely patriotic person, but I really encourage folks who
    have never vacationed here to consider it, and consider it a privilege
    to get to offer travel tips to visitors on a budget.
    >
    > --
    > Cheers
    > Chatty Cathy


    --Bryan

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    Serene Vannoy Guest

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    ChattyCathy wrote:
    > When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?


    Oh, never, but it will often become too complicated for the
    circumstances. That is, I like complicated recipes, but wouldn't try
    them on company, or if I needed to get a meal on the table in an hour.
    And I'm more likely to try something if the ingredients aren't very
    expensive, because that's just the way our finances are at the moment,
    so I'm unlikely to make steak tartare even though I'd like to, and so
    on. (Plus, I tend to take a while to try stuff that uses equipment I
    don't have, because I talk myself out of spending money on new kitchen
    equipment. For the longest time, I didn't make candy because I didn't
    get around to buying a thermometer and didn't want to do it the old way.)

    >
    > When it involves more than 4 ingredients (and none of them out of a
    > can)? Or if the method/instructions are longer than 2 lines? Or maybe
    > if it takes more than 3 minutes prep.? Or whatever.


    I have sort of made a little hobby out of learning to cook things that
    seemed too fussy or hard at first -- English toffee, challah, ice cream
    from custard, cream puffs, things like that -- but none of them has
    turned out to be very difficult at all, so it makes me braver for the
    next thing.

    I'd really like to learn to make croissants and/or puff pastry next.

    Serene

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    I believe they have the right to go to hell in the handbasket of their
    choosing." -- Pat Kight, on alt.polyamory

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    Ranée at Arabian Knits Guest

    Default Re: "Jimmy Tango" recipes...

    > ChattyCathy wrote:
    > > When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?


    It has less to do with the recipe and more to do with my state of
    mind, schedule, work load, health, etc. When I am exhausted, burned
    out, busy, going 80 different directions at once, I am more likely to
    stick with simpler preparations.

    Regards,
    Ranee @ Arabian Knits

    "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

    http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/

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    PLucas1 Guest

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    ChattyCathy <[email protected]> wrote in news:nYTin.2353$ao7.40
    @newsfe21.iad:

    > When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?
    >



    It doesn't.


    A recipe is written down. If you can't follow it..... you can't read.

    Ergo......... get out of the frikken kitchen!!!


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    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: "Jimmy Tango" recipes...

    On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:46:37 +0200, ChattyCathy wrote:

    > When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?
    >
    > When it involves more than 4 ingredients (and none of them out of a
    > can)? Or if the method/instructions are longer than 2 lines? Or maybe
    > if it takes more than 3 minutes prep.? Or whatever.
    >
    > Just curious...


    i shy away from recipes involving deep-frying, or which rely on herbs i
    don't have (a fairly long list) or don't like (tarragon, say, or cilantro).

    calling onion or garlic powder might cause me to look at them askance as
    well.

    your pal,
    blake

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    blake murphy Guest

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    On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:44:28 -0500, Zeppo wrote:

    > "Zeppo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> "ChattyCathy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:nYTin.2353$[email protected]..
    >>> When does a recipe become "too complicated" for you?
    >>>
    >>> When it involves more than 4 ingredients (and none of them out of a
    >>> can)? Or if the method/instructions are longer than 2 lines? Or maybe
    >>> if it takes more than 3 minutes prep.? Or whatever.
    >>>
    >>> Just curious...
    >>> --
    >>> Cheers
    >>> Chatty Cathy

    >>
    >> Depends, if I'm trying to put dinner on the table during the week, then
    >> too complicated would be anything that would take longer than an hour to
    >> complete, from fridge to plate, or anything so demanding I could
    >> simultaneously prepare sides or make a salad.

    >
    > Sorry, make that *couldn't* simultaneously prepare sides or make a salad.
    >
    > Jon


    i took your meaning.

    your pal,
    blake

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