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    Cheryl Guest

    Default It's all in the mix

    This is an interesting article about being calorie and carb conscience when
    you want to consume alcohol.

    http://www.travellady.com/Issues/Issue69/spirits.htm

    I think a lot of us like to partake in the spirits at times, yet want to
    keep track of what we're putting into our bodies, whether for health reasons
    (diabetes or other) or just counting calories and carbs. I didn't know that
    most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that you have to watch out
    for.



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    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:55:29 -0400, Cheryl wrote:

    > I didn't know that
    > most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that you have to watch out
    > for.


    MIxer?

    -sw

  3. #3
    Cheryl Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    "Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:1p2jq3nhq9dna$.[email protected]..
    > On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:55:29 -0400, Cheryl wrote:
    >
    >> I didn't know that
    >> most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that you have to watch
    >> out
    >> for.

    >
    > MIxer?


    As in a mixed drink. Of course you knew that and I guess your question
    means you like yours neat? My favorite mixed drink is rum and cranberry
    juice. I switched to "light" cranberry juice years ago when I found it
    tasted the same, but has 1/3 fewer calories. Since I also like the same
    juice with club soda, I think I'm going to switch my drink to juice, soda
    water and rum. Should cut the calories even more.



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    Janet Wilder Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    On 8/20/2010 7:55 PM, Cheryl wrote:
    > This is an interesting article about being calorie and carb conscience
    > when you want to consume alcohol.
    >
    > http://www.travellady.com/Issues/Issue69/spirits.htm
    >
    > I think a lot of us like to partake in the spirits at times, yet want to
    > keep track of what we're putting into our bodies, whether for health
    > reasons (diabetes or other) or just counting calories and carbs. I
    > didn't know that most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that
    > you have to watch out for.
    >
    >

    It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
    it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.

    BTW, it may have zero carbs but it doesn't have zero calories.

    --
    Janet Wilder
    Way-the-heck-south Texas
    Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

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    Mr. Bill Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:24:35 -0400, "Cheryl" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > I switched to "light" cranberry juice years ago when I found it
    >tasted the same, but has 1/3 fewer calories.


    I switched to "diet" cranberry juice a year ago...after reading the
    labels in the grocery. There is a huge difference between "light" and
    "diet".





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  6. #6
    Stu Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:13:31 -0500, Janet Wilder
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On 8/20/2010 7:55 PM, Cheryl wrote:
    >> This is an interesting article about being calorie and carb conscience
    >> when you want to consume alcohol.
    >>
    >> http://www.travellady.com/Issues/Issue69/spirits.htm
    >>
    >> I think a lot of us like to partake in the spirits at times, yet want to
    >> keep track of what we're putting into our bodies, whether for health
    >> reasons (diabetes or other) or just counting calories and carbs. I
    >> didn't know that most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that
    >> you have to watch out for.
    >>
    >>

    >It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
    >it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.
    >
    >BTW, it may have zero carbs but it doesn't have zero calories.



    http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk...er/alcohol.htm

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    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:09:18 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

    > On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:55:29 -0400, Cheryl wrote:
    >
    >> I didn't know that
    >> most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that you have to watch out
    >> for.

    >
    > MIxer?
    >
    > -sw


    <snort>

    my father's father used to say 'they put enough water in at the
    distillery.'

    your pal,
    blake

  8. #8
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:24:35 -0400, Cheryl wrote:

    > "Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:1p2jq3nhq9dna$.[email protected]..
    >> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:55:29 -0400, Cheryl wrote:
    >>
    >>> I didn't know that
    >>> most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that you have to watch
    >>> out
    >>> for.

    >>
    >> MIxer?

    >
    > As in a mixed drink. Of course you knew that and I guess your question
    > means you like yours neat? My favorite mixed drink is rum and cranberry
    > juice. I switched to "light" cranberry juice years ago when I found it
    > tasted the same, but has 1/3 fewer calories. Since I also like the same
    > juice with club soda, I think I'm going to switch my drink to juice, soda
    > water and rum. Should cut the calories even more.


    a friend of mine used to drink vodka and club soda on the grounds that it
    was the lowest calorie mixed drink he could find. i was never brash enough
    to taste it.

    your pal,
    blake

  9. #9
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:13:31 -0500, Janet Wilder wrote:

    > On 8/20/2010 7:55 PM, Cheryl wrote:
    >> This is an interesting article about being calorie and carb conscience
    >> when you want to consume alcohol.
    >>
    >> http://www.travellady.com/Issues/Issue69/spirits.htm
    >>
    >> I think a lot of us like to partake in the spirits at times, yet want to
    >> keep track of what we're putting into our bodies, whether for health
    >> reasons (diabetes or other) or just counting calories and carbs. I
    >> didn't know that most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that
    >> you have to watch out for.
    >>
    >>

    > It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
    > it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.
    >
    > BTW, it may have zero carbs but it doesn't have zero calories.


    thank god it's good for something.

    your pal,
    blake

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    Mr. Bill Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:04:52 -0400, blake murphy
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >a friend of mine used to drink vodka and club soda


    My drink of choice is vodka and Diet Pepsi with a lime twist.





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    Bob Terwilliger Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    Billy wrote:

    >> a friend of mine used to drink vodka and club soda

    >
    > My drink of choice is vodka and Diet Pepsi with a lime twist.


    This time of year I like vodka with iced tea which has been infused with
    orange peels. Haven't had it so far this year, though, and probably won't.

    Bob




  12. #12
    Cindy Fuller Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    In article <4c6f5262$0$9934$[email protected]>,
    Janet Wilder <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 8/20/2010 7:55 PM, Cheryl wrote:
    > > This is an interesting article about being calorie and carb conscience
    > > when you want to consume alcohol.
    > >
    > > http://www.travellady.com/Issues/Issue69/spirits.htm
    > >
    > > I think a lot of us like to partake in the spirits at times, yet want to
    > > keep track of what we're putting into our bodies, whether for health
    > > reasons (diabetes or other) or just counting calories and carbs. I
    > > didn't know that most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that
    > > you have to watch out for.
    > >
    > >

    > It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
    > it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.
    >

    When I was doing my rotations at Parkland (in Dallas) many years ago, I
    had a patient with secondary diabetes. She had lost her pancreas to
    alcohol abuse. She had been on the wagon until her brother died, and
    the only comfort she could find was Southern (if you catch my drift).
    Had a neighbor not found her, she would have died due to hypoglycemia.
    Word to the wise... Don't consume alcohol without food, and pay
    attention to your blood glucose meter.

    OB Food: Tonight's dinner was rockfish Veracruzano. Dessert and a
    movie: dulce de leche ice cream with fresh figs.

    Cindy

    --
    C.J. Fuller

    Delete the obvious to email me

  13. #13
    Alex Corvinus Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 08:29:45 -0500, Stu <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:13:31 -0500, Janet Wilder
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>On 8/20/2010 7:55 PM, Cheryl wrote:
    >>> This is an interesting article about being calorie and carb conscience
    >>> when you want to consume alcohol.


    >>It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
    >>it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.
    >>
    >>BTW, it may have zero carbs but it doesn't have zero calories.

    >

    Not only that, but alcohol, IIRC, interferes with body fat breakdown,
    which ends up as a net increase in fat deposits in the body. I think
    that messes with one's TGL levels.......

    Alex

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    Doug Freyburger Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    Janet Wilder wrote:
    > Cheryl wrote:
    >
    >> I didn't know that most spirits contain zero carbs.


    You still have to know what "spirit" means. A undiluted unmixed
    distilled liquor is a spirit. A liqueur is not a spirit. Beer, cider,
    wine, ale and mead are not spirits either.

    > It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
    > it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.
    >
    > BTW, it may have zero carbs but it doesn't have zero calories.


    With a further caveat - The body has 4 main types of fuel. The first is
    alcohol and it will burn it nearly to the exclusion of others until it
    is gone. The next is carbs, then fat, then protein.

    Alcohol interferes with either carb or fat burning. It is neither carb
    not fat but there's good sense for a low carber to count alcohol
    calories as carb calories and for a low fatter to count alcohol calories
    as fat calories.

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    Cheryl Guest

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    "Doug Freyburger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:i4ug2i$622$[email protected]..
    > Janet Wilder wrote:
    >> Cheryl wrote:
    >>
    >>> I didn't know that most spirits contain zero carbs.

    >
    > You still have to know what "spirit" means. A undiluted unmixed
    > distilled liquor is a spirit. A liqueur is not a spirit. Beer, cider,
    > wine, ale and mead are not spirits either.
    >
    >> It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
    >> it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.
    >>
    >> BTW, it may have zero carbs but it doesn't have zero calories.

    >
    > With a further caveat - The body has 4 main types of fuel. The first is
    > alcohol and it will burn it nearly to the exclusion of others until it
    > is gone. The next is carbs, then fat, then protein.
    >
    > Alcohol interferes with either carb or fat burning. It is neither carb
    > not fat but there's good sense for a low carber to count alcohol
    > calories as carb calories and for a low fatter to count alcohol calories
    > as fat calories.
    >


    All very good info. Thank you. I'm not diabetic but do try to watch carbs.
    Had no idea about the order in which the body burns available fuel!



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    tert in seattle Guest

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    Cheryl wrote:
    > "Doug Freyburger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:i4ug2i$622$[email protected]..
    >> Janet Wilder wrote:
    >>> Cheryl wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I didn't know that most spirits contain zero carbs.

    >>
    >> You still have to know what "spirit" means. A undiluted unmixed
    >> distilled liquor is a spirit. A liqueur is not a spirit. Beer, cider,
    >> wine, ale and mead are not spirits either.
    >>
    >>> It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
    >>> it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.
    >>>
    >>> BTW, it may have zero carbs but it doesn't have zero calories.

    >>
    >> With a further caveat - The body has 4 main types of fuel. The first is
    >> alcohol and it will burn it nearly to the exclusion of others until it
    >> is gone. The next is carbs, then fat, then protein.
    >>
    >> Alcohol interferes with either carb or fat burning. It is neither carb
    >> not fat but there's good sense for a low carber to count alcohol
    >> calories as carb calories and for a low fatter to count alcohol calories
    >> as fat calories.
    >>

    >
    > All very good info. Thank you. I'm not diabetic but do try to watch carbs.
    > Had no idea about the order in which the body burns available fuel!


    it's not fully accurate - most of the time you're burning a mix of
    energy substrates, mostly carbs & fats - and the balance varies
    depending on your diet, your glycogen stores, and activity level

    more here:

    http://www.exrx.net/Nutrition/Substrates.html



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    Cheryl Guest

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    "tert in seattle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..

    > it's not fully accurate - most of the time you're burning a mix of
    > energy substrates, mostly carbs & fats - and the balance varies
    > depending on your diet, your glycogen stores, and activity level
    >
    > more here:
    >
    > http://www.exrx.net/Nutrition/Substrates.html


    I have to take some time to fully understand that. The body is a complex
    thing.


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    Doug Freyburger Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    Mr. Bill wrote:
    >
    > I switched to "diet" cranberry juice a year ago...after reading the
    > labels in the grocery. There is a huge difference between "light" and
    > "diet".


    If you're a purist the diet "juices" can end up too fake. I'm not a
    purist. To me they taste close enough to real juice and they lack the
    sugar. I'm for the diet ones. There's an open bottle one some type in
    the fridge at home about half the time.

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    Doug Freyburger Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    Wine and beer are usually taken without mixers. Beer ranges from very
    low carb to moderately low carb. Nice dark Guinness has no more carbs
    than Miller. Wine ranges from dry that's low carb to sweet that's high
    carb.

    tert in seattle wrote:
    > Cheryl wrote:
    >> "Doug Freyburger" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >>> With a further caveat - The body has 4 main types of fuel. The first is
    >>> alcohol and it will burn it nearly to the exclusion of others until it
    >>> is gone. The next is carbs, then fat, then protein.


    I was careful how I worded that. While alcohol is present it's burned
    at top priority interfering with burning the others therefore
    interfering with attempts to lose weight. For some drinking stalls lose
    for others the delay is only an hour or so so not important.

    The rest are burned in ratios that depend on a lot of parameter so my
    list of carbs first then fat second then protein third is about priority
    with overlaps. Not the same thing as "nearly to the exclusion" that
    applies to alcohol.

    > it's not fully accurate - most of the time you're burning a mix of
    > energy substrates, mostly carbs & fats - and the balance varies
    > depending on your diet, your glycogen stores, and activity level
    >
    > more here:
    >
    > http://www.exrx.net/Nutrition/Substrates.html


    Comments in that document about low carbing are pretty good. There is a
    time estimate for how long it takes to adjust after that point athletic
    performance (below professional or competitive levels) resumes and
    endurance becomes very good while low carbing.

    There's a lot to how the fuels are mixed but the doc gives some good
    advice on how long or how intense to exercise. Take the top limits to
    heart to avoid burning protein. Take the bottom limits to heart to
    encourage burning fat.

  20. #20
    David Harmon Guest

    Default Re: It's all in the mix

    On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:44:21 +0000 (UTC) in rec.food.cooking, Doug
    Freyburger <[email protected]> wrote,
    >Mr. Bill wrote:
    >>
    >> I switched to "diet" cranberry juice a year ago...after reading the
    >> labels in the grocery. There is a huge difference between "light" and
    >> "diet".

    >
    >If you're a purist the diet "juices" can end up too fake. I'm not a
    >purist. To me they taste close enough to real juice and they lack the
    >sugar. I'm for the diet ones. There's an open bottle one some type in
    >the fridge at home about half the time.


    What is "diet" cranberry juice? I had a hard time finding cranberry
    juice lately, with all the diluted, polluted, and adulterated Ocean
    Spray "cocktail" products crowding the market. I found it at Trader
    Joe's, 100% cranberry juice not from concentrate.

    If you saw "Ocean Spray 100% Juice Cranberry", what would you guess is
    the first ingredient? If you guessed cranberry juice, you are not even
    close. Those lying, chiseling bastards.

    I don't want any water added to my cranberry juice; I can do that
    myself. Adding sweetener, likewise. And if you are making cranberry
    juice from concentrate, then just sell me the concentrate, thank you.



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