Thread: It's all in the mix

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:55:29 -0400, Cheryl wrote:

> I didn't know that
> most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that you have to watch out
> for.

MIxer?

-sw

"Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:55:29 -0400, Cheryl wrote:
>
>> I didn't know that
>> most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that you have to watch
>> out
>> for.
>
> MIxer?

As in a mixed drink. Of course you knew that and I guess your question
means you like yours neat? My favorite mixed drink is rum and cranberry
juice. I switched to "light" cranberry juice years ago when I found it
tasted the same, but has 1/3 fewer calories. Since I also like the same
juice with club soda, I think I'm going to switch my drink to juice, soda
water and rum. Should cut the calories even more.

On 8/20/2010 7:55 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> This is an interesting article about being calorie and carb conscience
> when you want to consume alcohol.
>
> http://www.travellady.com/Issues/Issue69/spirits.htm
>
> I think a lot of us like to partake in the spirits at times, yet want to
> keep track of what we're putting into our bodies, whether for health
> reasons (diabetes or other) or just counting calories and carbs. I
> didn't know that most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that
> you have to watch out for.
>
>
It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.

BTW, it may have zero carbs but it doesn't have zero calories.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:24:35 -0400, "Cheryl" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I switched to "light" cranberry juice years ago when I found it
>tasted the same, but has 1/3 fewer calories.

I switched to "diet" cranberry juice a year ago...after reading the
labels in the grocery. There is a huge difference between "light" and
"diet".





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On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:13:31 -0500, Janet Wilder
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 8/20/2010 7:55 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> This is an interesting article about being calorie and carb conscience
>> when you want to consume alcohol.
>>
>> http://www.travellady.com/Issues/Issue69/spirits.htm
>>
>> I think a lot of us like to partake in the spirits at times, yet want to
>> keep track of what we're putting into our bodies, whether for health
>> reasons (diabetes or other) or just counting calories and carbs. I
>> didn't know that most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that
>> you have to watch out for.
>>
>>
>It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
>it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.
>
>BTW, it may have zero carbs but it doesn't have zero calories.


http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk...er/alcohol.htm

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:09:18 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:55:29 -0400, Cheryl wrote:
>
>> I didn't know that
>> most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that you have to watch out
>> for.
>
> MIxer?
>
> -sw

<snort>

my father's father used to say 'they put enough water in at the
distillery.'

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:24:35 -0400, Cheryl wrote:

> "Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1p2jq3nhq9dna$.[email protected]..
>> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:55:29 -0400, Cheryl wrote:
>>
>>> I didn't know that
>>> most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that you have to watch
>>> out
>>> for.
>>
>> MIxer?
>
> As in a mixed drink. Of course you knew that and I guess your question
> means you like yours neat? My favorite mixed drink is rum and cranberry
> juice. I switched to "light" cranberry juice years ago when I found it
> tasted the same, but has 1/3 fewer calories. Since I also like the same
> juice with club soda, I think I'm going to switch my drink to juice, soda
> water and rum. Should cut the calories even more.

a friend of mine used to drink vodka and club soda on the grounds that it
was the lowest calorie mixed drink he could find. i was never brash enough
to taste it.

your pal,
blake

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:13:31 -0500, Janet Wilder wrote:

> On 8/20/2010 7:55 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>> This is an interesting article about being calorie and carb conscience
>> when you want to consume alcohol.
>>
>> http://www.travellady.com/Issues/Issue69/spirits.htm
>>
>> I think a lot of us like to partake in the spirits at times, yet want to
>> keep track of what we're putting into our bodies, whether for health
>> reasons (diabetes or other) or just counting calories and carbs. I
>> didn't know that most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that
>> you have to watch out for.
>>
>>
> It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
> it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.
>
> BTW, it may have zero carbs but it doesn't have zero calories.

thank god it's good for something.

your pal,
blake

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:04:52 -0400, blake murphy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>a friend of mine used to drink vodka and club soda

My drink of choice is vodka and Diet Pepsi with a lime twist.





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Billy wrote:

>> a friend of mine used to drink vodka and club soda
>
> My drink of choice is vodka and Diet Pepsi with a lime twist.

This time of year I like vodka with iced tea which has been infused with
orange peels. Haven't had it so far this year, though, and probably won't.

Bob

In article <4c6f5262$0$9934$[email protected]>,
Janet Wilder <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 8/20/2010 7:55 PM, Cheryl wrote:
> > This is an interesting article about being calorie and carb conscience
> > when you want to consume alcohol.
> >
> > http://www.travellady.com/Issues/Issue69/spirits.htm
> >
> > I think a lot of us like to partake in the spirits at times, yet want to
> > keep track of what we're putting into our bodies, whether for health
> > reasons (diabetes or other) or just counting calories and carbs. I
> > didn't know that most spirits contain zero carbs. It's the mixer that
> > you have to watch out for.
> >
> >
> It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
> it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.
>
When I was doing my rotations at Parkland (in Dallas) many years ago, I
had a patient with secondary diabetes. She had lost her pancreas to
alcohol abuse. She had been on the wagon until her brother died, and
the only comfort she could find was Southern (if you catch my drift).
Had a neighbor not found her, she would have died due to hypoglycemia.
Word to the wise... Don't consume alcohol without food, and pay
attention to your blood glucose meter.

OB Food: Tonight's dinner was rockfish Veracruzano. Dessert and a
movie: dulce de leche ice cream with fresh figs.

Cindy

--
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 08:29:45 -0500, Stu <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:13:31 -0500, Janet Wilder
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On 8/20/2010 7:55 PM, Cheryl wrote:
>>> This is an interesting article about being calorie and carb conscience
>>> when you want to consume alcohol.

>>It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
>>it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.
>>
>>BTW, it may have zero carbs but it doesn't have zero calories.
>
Not only that, but alcohol, IIRC, interferes with body fat breakdown,
which ends up as a net increase in fat deposits in the body. I think
that messes with one's TGL levels.......

Alex

Janet Wilder wrote:
> Cheryl wrote:
>
>> I didn't know that most spirits contain zero carbs.

You still have to know what "spirit" means. A undiluted unmixed
distilled liquor is a spirit. A liqueur is not a spirit. Beer, cider,
wine, ale and mead are not spirits either.

> It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
> it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.
>
> BTW, it may have zero carbs but it doesn't have zero calories.

With a further caveat - The body has 4 main types of fuel. The first is
alcohol and it will burn it nearly to the exclusion of others until it
is gone. The next is carbs, then fat, then protein.

Alcohol interferes with either carb or fat burning. It is neither carb
not fat but there's good sense for a low carber to count alcohol
calories as carb calories and for a low fatter to count alcohol calories
as fat calories.

"Doug Freyburger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Janet Wilder wrote:
>> Cheryl wrote:
>>
>>> I didn't know that most spirits contain zero carbs.
>
> You still have to know what "spirit" means. A undiluted unmixed
> distilled liquor is a spirit. A liqueur is not a spirit. Beer, cider,
> wine, ale and mead are not spirits either.
>
>> It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
>> it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.
>>
>> BTW, it may have zero carbs but it doesn't have zero calories.
>
> With a further caveat - The body has 4 main types of fuel. The first is
> alcohol and it will burn it nearly to the exclusion of others until it
> is gone. The next is carbs, then fat, then protein.
>
> Alcohol interferes with either carb or fat burning. It is neither carb
> not fat but there's good sense for a low carber to count alcohol
> calories as carb calories and for a low fatter to count alcohol calories
> as fat calories.
>

All very good info. Thank you. I'm not diabetic but do try to watch carbs.
Had no idea about the order in which the body burns available fuel!

Cheryl wrote:
> "Doug Freyburger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:i4ug2i$622$[email protected]..
>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> Cheryl wrote:
>>>
>>>> I didn't know that most spirits contain zero carbs.
>>
>> You still have to know what "spirit" means. A undiluted unmixed
>> distilled liquor is a spirit. A liqueur is not a spirit. Beer, cider,
>> wine, ale and mead are not spirits either.
>>
>>> It's true that alcohol has zero carbs, but you need to look further when
>>> it comes to diabetes. It can play havoc with control.
>>>
>>> BTW, it may have zero carbs but it doesn't have zero calories.
>>
>> With a further caveat - The body has 4 main types of fuel. The first is
>> alcohol and it will burn it nearly to the exclusion of others until it
>> is gone. The next is carbs, then fat, then protein.
>>
>> Alcohol interferes with either carb or fat burning. It is neither carb
>> not fat but there's good sense for a low carber to count alcohol
>> calories as carb calories and for a low fatter to count alcohol calories
>> as fat calories.
>>
>
> All very good info. Thank you. I'm not diabetic but do try to watch carbs.
> Had no idea about the order in which the body burns available fuel!

it's not fully accurate - most of the time you're burning a mix of
energy substrates, mostly carbs & fats - and the balance varies
depending on your diet, your glycogen stores, and activity level

more here:

http://www.exrx.net/Nutrition/Substrates.html

"tert in seattle" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> it's not fully accurate - most of the time you're burning a mix of
> energy substrates, mostly carbs & fats - and the balance varies
> depending on your diet, your glycogen stores, and activity level
>
> more here:
>
> http://www.exrx.net/Nutrition/Substrates.html

I have to take some time to fully understand that. The body is a complex
thing.

Mr. Bill wrote:
>
> I switched to "diet" cranberry juice a year ago...after reading the
> labels in the grocery. There is a huge difference between "light" and
> "diet".

If you're a purist the diet "juices" can end up too fake. I'm not a
purist. To me they taste close enough to real juice and they lack the
sugar. I'm for the diet ones. There's an open bottle one some type in
the fridge at home about half the time.

Wine and beer are usually taken without mixers. Beer ranges from very
low carb to moderately low carb. Nice dark Guinness has no more carbs
than Miller. Wine ranges from dry that's low carb to sweet that's high
carb.

tert in seattle wrote:
> Cheryl wrote:
>> "Doug Freyburger" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> With a further caveat - The body has 4 main types of fuel. The first is
>>> alcohol and it will burn it nearly to the exclusion of others until it
>>> is gone. The next is carbs, then fat, then protein.

I was careful how I worded that. While alcohol is present it's burned
at top priority interfering with burning the others therefore
interfering with attempts to lose weight. For some drinking stalls lose
for others the delay is only an hour or so so not important.

The rest are burned in ratios that depend on a lot of parameter so my
list of carbs first then fat second then protein third is about priority
with overlaps. Not the same thing as "nearly to the exclusion" that
applies to alcohol.

> it's not fully accurate - most of the time you're burning a mix of
> energy substrates, mostly carbs & fats - and the balance varies
> depending on your diet, your glycogen stores, and activity level
>
> more here:
>
> http://www.exrx.net/Nutrition/Substrates.html

Comments in that document about low carbing are pretty good. There is a
time estimate for how long it takes to adjust after that point athletic
performance (below professional or competitive levels) resumes and
endurance becomes very good while low carbing.

There's a lot to how the fuels are mixed but the doc gives some good
advice on how long or how intense to exercise. Take the top limits to
heart to avoid burning protein. Take the bottom limits to heart to
encourage burning fat.

On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:44:21 +0000 (UTC) in rec.food.cooking, Doug
Freyburger <[email protected]> wrote,
>Mr. Bill wrote:
>>
>> I switched to "diet" cranberry juice a year ago...after reading the
>> labels in the grocery. There is a huge difference between "light" and
>> "diet".
>
>If you're a purist the diet "juices" can end up too fake. I'm not a
>purist. To me they taste close enough to real juice and they lack the
>sugar. I'm for the diet ones. There's an open bottle one some type in
>the fridge at home about half the time.

What is "diet" cranberry juice? I had a hard time finding cranberry
juice lately, with all the diluted, polluted, and adulterated Ocean
Spray "cocktail" products crowding the market. I found it at Trader
Joe's, 100% cranberry juice not from concentrate.

If you saw "Ocean Spray 100% Juice Cranberry", what would you guess is
the first ingredient? If you guessed cranberry juice, you are not even
close. Those lying, chiseling bastards.

I don't want any water added to my cranberry juice; I can do that
myself. Adding sweetener, likewise. And if you are making cranberry
juice from concentrate, then just sell me the concentrate, thank you.