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Thread: How to pronounce "provalone"?

  1. #1
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default How to pronounce "provalone"?

    I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even
    looked it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it
    "provolonAH".

    Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.

    The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule
    for ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the
    same ending sound).

    -sw

  2. #2
    zxcvbob Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    Sqwertz wrote:
    > I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    > immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even
    > looked it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it
    > "provolonAH".
    >
    > Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    > American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.
    >
    > The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    > they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule
    > for ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the
    > same ending sound).
    >
    > -sw



    I'm pretty sure the accent is on the next-to-last syllable, so does it
    really matter how you pronounce an unaccented vowel? If the accent was
    on the e, it *would* make a difference. IMHO

    -Bob


  3. #3
    tert in seattle Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    Sqwertz wrote:
    > I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    > immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even
    > looked it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it
    > "provolonAH".
    >
    > Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    > American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.
    >
    > The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    > they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule
    > for ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the
    > same ending sound).
    >
    > -sw


    http://www.forvo.com/word/provolone/

    they say they're from Italy...who am I to doubt?


  4. #4
    James Silverton Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    On 3/28/2012 4:51 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
    > Sqwertz wrote:
    >> I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    >> immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even
    >> looked it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it
    >> "provolonAH".
    >>
    >> Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    >> American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.
    >>
    >> The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    >> they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule
    >> for ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the
    >> same ending sound).
    >>
    >> -sw

    >
    > http://www.forvo.com/word/provolone/
    >
    > they say they're from Italy...who am I to doubt?
    >

    I'd go with the dictionary. English is a democratic language and usage
    ultimately rules whatever is "correct".

    --
    Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

    Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

  5. #5
    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:52:45 -0500, Sqwertz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    >immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even
    >looked it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it
    >"provolonAH".
    >
    >Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    >American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.
    >
    >The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    >they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule
    >for ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the
    >same ending sound).
    >
    >-sw


    My wife of Italian ancestry pronounces it provaLONE. So do all the
    people at Tony's Market in Providence.

  6. #6
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?


    "Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    >I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    > immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even
    > looked it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it
    > "provolonAH".
    >
    > Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    > American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.
    >
    > The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    > they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule
    > for ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the
    > same ending sound).


    Nick Stellino says "Pro-va-loan". That is the only way I have heard it
    pronounced. I lived on Staten Island with a lot of Italians. They all said
    it that way.



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    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:52:45 -0500, Sqwertz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    >immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even
    >looked it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it
    >"provolonAH".
    >
    >Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    >American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.
    >
    >The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    >they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule
    >for ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the
    >same ending sound).


    http://www.epicurious.com/tools/food...21&submit.y=11

  8. #8
    Dave Smith Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    On 28/03/2012 5:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

    > My wife of Italian ancestry pronounces it provaLONE. So do all the
    > people at Tony's Market in Providence.



    As do all the hyphenated Italians around here.

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    George M. Middius Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    sqwishy's Valentine wish is a month late.

    >I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    >immediately thought the guy was a Middiot.


    Awww.... you're in love with me. That's so sweet.


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    Pico Rico Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?


    "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:52:45 -0500, Sqwertz <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    >>immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even
    >>looked it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it
    >>"provolonAH".
    >>
    >>Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    >>American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.
    >>
    >>The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    >>they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule
    >>for ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the
    >>same ending sound).
    >>
    >>-sw

    >
    > My wife of Italian ancestry pronounces it provaLONE. So do all the
    > people at Tony's Market in Providence.


    not this guy of Italian Ancestry. provalone-knee, not stressing the knee
    too darn much.



  11. #11
    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:17:21 -0700, "Pico Rico"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]. .
    >> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:52:45 -0500, Sqwertz <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    >>>immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even
    >>>looked it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it
    >>>"provolonAH".
    >>>
    >>>Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    >>>American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.
    >>>
    >>>The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    >>>they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule
    >>>for ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the
    >>>same ending sound).
    >>>
    >>>-sw

    >>
    >> My wife of Italian ancestry pronounces it provaLONE. So do all the
    >> people at Tony's Market in Providence.

    >
    >not this guy of Italian Ancestry. provalone-knee, not stressing the knee
    >too darn much.


    Every guido in Brooklyn says provoloney > baloney.

  12. #12
    Steve Freides Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    Sqwertz wrote:
    > I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    > immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even
    > looked it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it
    > "provolonAH".
    >
    > Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    > American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.
    >
    > The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    > they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule
    > for ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the
    > same ending sound).
    >
    > -sw


    Italian is quite phonetic - what you see is what you get, so that final
    "knee" is, indeed, pronounced, but it's unstressed and unaccented and
    easy to miss if it's said quickly.

    A more common word in Italian is "thank you", which is "grazie" - most
    Americans think it's pronounced "gratzee" but there is another syllable
    there at the end. If you google, "How do you pronounce grazie" you can
    listen to some natives pronounce it.

    As a voice major in undergraduate music school, we were required to take
    a year of Italian, plus a semester of Italian diction for singers. Rest
    assured that, even if we had no clue what we were saying, we learned to
    pronounce it correctly.

    -S-



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    Theodore Edward Stosterone Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:52:45 -0500, Sqwertz <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    >immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even
    >looked it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it
    >"provolonAH".
    >
    >Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    >American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.
    >
    >The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    >they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule
    >for ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the
    >same ending sound).
    >
    >-sw


    'k, is it fell-aye-she-o, or fell-ah-TI-o?

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    ViLco Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    Sqwertz wrote:

    > The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    > they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it.


    That final "e" is spelled just like the "e"'s in the english word
    "president", in the sense that it's not spelled like the "ee" in knee.

    > And what is the rule
    > for ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the
    > same ending sound).


    For you they have the same ending sound, for us they are very different, one
    is spelled "eh" (as in provolone) and one "ee" (as in knee).
    There's not a always valid rule.
    Usually "e" is the ending for plural female nouns: zucchine, donne, lettere,
    etc, but it's also used for some singular nouns, both male and female:
    dottore (M doctor), ape (F bee), etc.
    Usually "i" is the ending for plural male nouns: spaghetti, uomini, libri,
    etc. Slightly less often, it's used for some plural female nouns: crisalidi
    (chrysalides), danzatrici (she-dancers, the male form is danzatori), attrici
    (actresses) etc.




  15. #15
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:34:26 -0500, zxcvbob wrote:

    > Sqwertz wrote:
    >> I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    >> immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even
    >> looked it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it
    >> "provolonAH".
    >>
    >> Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    >> American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.
    >>
    >> The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    >> they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule
    >> for ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the
    >> same ending sound).
    >>
    >> -sw

    >
    > I'm pretty sure the accent is on the next-to-last syllable, so does it
    > really matter how you pronounce an unaccented vowel? If the accent was
    > on the e, it *would* make a difference. IMHO


    Is the last syllable of a ever accented when the word ends in a vowel?
    I has not trying to indicate accents in the way I spelled it, but it
    was dectopive. I was just highlighting the differences.

    -sw.

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    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:51:28 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:

    > Sqwertz wrote:
    >> I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    >> immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even
    >> looked it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it
    >> "provolonAH".
    >>
    >> Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    >> American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.
    >>
    >> The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    >> they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule
    >> for ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the
    >> same ending sound).
    >>
    >> -sw

    >
    > http://www.forvo.com/word/provolone/
    >
    > they say they're from Italy...who am I to doubt?


    Eeek, you have to set up an account to download a 1-second MP3, then
    find where your browser put it and play it manually?

    Isn't it easier to just spell it?

    -sw

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    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:11:14 -0400, James Silverton wrote:

    > I'd go with the dictionary. English is a democratic language and usage
    > ultimately rules whatever is "correct".


    That's why I just coined the term "manglish" ;-) At least I think I
    did, but I'm not going to look it up and possibly prove myself wrong
    :-)

    -sw

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    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:16:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

    > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:52:45 -0500, Sqwertz <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    >>immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even
    >>looked it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it
    >>"provolonAH".
    >>
    >>Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    >>American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.
    >>
    >>The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    >>they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule
    >>for ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the
    >>same ending sound).
    >>
    >>-sw

    >
    > My wife of Italian ancestry pronounces it provaLONE. So do all the
    > people at Tony's Market in Providence.


    As in 3 syllables and no hard vowel sound at the end? using English
    vowel rules (ending vowel modified previous vowel sound).

    That's the only way I've heard it, but then I realized I've never
    really heard it spoken by an "authentic" Italian. TV "chefs" dont'
    count.

    -sw

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    [email protected] Guest

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    Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 2:21pm (EDT-3) From:
    [email protected] (Julie*Bove)
    "Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even looked
    it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it "provolonAH".
    Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.
    The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule for
    ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the same
    ending sound).
    Nick Stellino says "Pro-va-loan". That is the only way I have heard it
    pronounced. I lived on Staten Island with a lot of Italians. They all
    said it that way.

    How anyone could watch the PHEW is beyond me. Why watch ABC's awful
    show, when there are so many cooking shows on the food network.
    ABC/DISNEY took off 2 soaps that had MILLIONS of viewers and replaced it
    with PURE CRAP.

    Another cheese that is often mispronounced is MOZZARELLA, some say what
    sounds like MATZOH-RELLA LOL. My Italian friends always drop the "L".


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    [email protected] Guest

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    Re: How to pronounce "provalone"?

    Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 9:25pm From: Gravesend1
    (Brooklyn1)
    On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:17:21 -0700, "Pico Rico" <[email protected]>
    wrote:
    "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:52:45 -0500, Sqwertz <[email protected]>
    wrote:
    I just heard somebody on "The Chew" pronounce it "Provolone-knee". I
    immediately thought the guy was a Middiot. I wouldn't have even looked
    it up, but then I remembered Giada pronouncing it "provolonAH".
    Of course *I've* been pronouncing it correctly for 30 years. But I'm
    American-English so I'm allowed to manglish foreign words.
    The dictionaries pronounce it "Provolon-KNEE", but some people say
    they're wrong. How do ITALIANS pronounce it. And what is the rule for
    ending words with "e" and "i" (spumate and spaghetti annd have the same
    ending sound).
    -sw
    My wife of Italian ancestry pronounces it provaLONE. So do all the
    people at Tony's Market in Providence.
    not this guy of Italian Ancestry. provalone-knee, not stressing the knee
    too darn much.
    Every guido in Brooklyn says provoloney > baloney.

    My friends are ITALIAN, not Guido's. You just love to insult people
    SHELDON. You better watch your butt, cause one day, someone may just
    beat the crap out of your whiney old smelly ass !!!!!!!!!


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