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    [email protected] Guest

    Default Hoagie Revisited

    Defimitions: (I'm from Michigan)

    Hoagie - Two or more kinds of lunchmeat and cheese on a hotdog bun, usually heated.

    Sub (Submarine Sandwich) - Pretty much anything on a long bread bun or part of a long
    bread loaf always with lettuce and other salad acompaniments, never heated.

    Grinder - basically a sub on which the bread/bun was buttered with butter and/or
    mayonase half of the fillings on each half of the bun and run face up through the
    broiler before the salad is added. Obviously always served hot



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    Edwin Pawlowski Guest

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    <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Defimitions: (I'm from Michigan)
    >
    > Hoagie - Two or more kinds of lunchmeat and cheese on a hotdog bun,
    > usually heated.
    >
    > Sub (Submarine Sandwich) - Pretty much anything on a long bread bun or
    > part of a long
    > bread loaf always with lettuce and other salad acompaniments, never
    > heated.
    >
    > Grinder - basically a sub on which the bread/bun was buttered with butter
    > and/or
    > mayonase half of the fillings on each half of the bun and run face up
    > through the
    > broiler before the salad is added. Obviously always served hot
    >
    >



    Wow, what a load if misinformation. Hoagies go on a good Italian bread type
    of roll. Grinders are sometimes heated, but not all that often. The Sub
    definition is close.



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    Edwin Pawlowski Guest

    Default Re: Hoagie Revisited


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Defimitions: (I'm from Michigan)
    >
    > Hoagie - Two or more kinds of lunchmeat and cheese on a hotdog bun,
    > usually heated.
    >
    > Sub (Submarine Sandwich) - Pretty much anything on a long bread bun or
    > part of a long
    > bread loaf always with lettuce and other salad acompaniments, never
    > heated.
    >
    > Grinder - basically a sub on which the bread/bun was buttered with butter
    > and/or
    > mayonase half of the fillings on each half of the bun and run face up
    > through the
    > broiler before the salad is added. Obviously always served hot
    >
    >



    Wow, what a load if misinformation. Hoagies go on a good Italian bread type
    of roll. Grinders are sometimes heated, but not all that often. The Sub
    definition is close.



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    George Guest

    Default Re: Hoagie Revisited

    [email protected] wrote:
    > Defimitions: (I'm from Michigan)
    >
    > Hoagie - Two or more kinds of lunchmeat and cheese on a hotdog bun, usually heated.



    Sounds like something featured at subway? Real hoagies are made on a
    long roll similar to a baguette (crispy crust/soft interior)


    >
    > Sub (Submarine Sandwich) - Pretty much anything on a long bread bun or part of a long
    > bread loaf always with lettuce and other salad acompaniments, never heated.
    >
    > Grinder - basically a sub on which the bread/bun was buttered with butter and/or
    > mayonase half of the fillings on each half of the bun and run face up through the
    > broiler before the salad is added. Obviously always served hot
    >
    >


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    George Guest

    Default Re: Hoagie Revisited

    [email protected] wrote:
    > Defimitions: (I'm from Michigan)
    >
    > Hoagie - Two or more kinds of lunchmeat and cheese on a hotdog bun, usually heated.



    Sounds like something featured at subway? Real hoagies are made on a
    long roll similar to a baguette (crispy crust/soft interior)


    >
    > Sub (Submarine Sandwich) - Pretty much anything on a long bread bun or part of a long
    > bread loaf always with lettuce and other salad acompaniments, never heated.
    >
    > Grinder - basically a sub on which the bread/bun was buttered with butter and/or
    > mayonase half of the fillings on each half of the bun and run face up through the
    > broiler before the salad is added. Obviously always served hot
    >
    >


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    Fred Jones Guest

    Default Re: Hoagie Revisited

    Then what is a Grinder ??


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    Fred Jones Guest

    Default Re: Hoagie Revisited

    Then what is a Grinder ??


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    George Guest

    Default Re: Hoagie Revisited

    Fred Jones wrote:
    > Then what is a Grinder ??
    >

    A grinder is heated in the oven after prep. A hoagie is made using cold
    sliced meats/cheese and is never heated.

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    George Guest

    Default Re: Hoagie Revisited

    Fred Jones wrote:
    > Then what is a Grinder ??
    >

    A grinder is heated in the oven after prep. A hoagie is made using cold
    sliced meats/cheese and is never heated.

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    The Ranger Guest

    Default Re: Hoagie Revisited

    On Jun 21, 9:43 am, freddie4...@webtv.net (Fred Jones) wrote:
    > Then what is a Grinder ??


    Usually, but not exclusively, built on a sliced French roll, slathered
    with mayo, stacked high with thin slices of chunked ham and provolone
    cheese. Sliced tomatoes and onions are placed between the cheese and
    ham. Several splashes of olive oil finish off the "condiments." It's a
    term found in the US Midwest and several New England states. If you're
    not working to dislocate your jaw while biting into it, it's not a
    grinder.

    The Ranger

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    The Ranger Guest

    Default Re: Hoagie Revisited

    On Jun 21, 9:43 am, freddie4...@webtv.net (Fred Jones) wrote:
    > Then what is a Grinder ??


    Usually, but not exclusively, built on a sliced French roll, slathered
    with mayo, stacked high with thin slices of chunked ham and provolone
    cheese. Sliced tomatoes and onions are placed between the cheese and
    ham. Several splashes of olive oil finish off the "condiments." It's a
    term found in the US Midwest and several New England states. If you're
    not working to dislocate your jaw while biting into it, it's not a
    grinder.

    The Ranger

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    RegForte Guest

    Default Re: Hoagie Revisited

    Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >


    >>Sub (Submarine Sandwich) - Pretty much anything on a long bread bun or
    >>part of a long
    >>bread loaf always with lettuce and other salad acompaniments, never
    >>heated.


    >
    >
    > Wow, what a load if misinformation. Hoagies go on a good Italian bread type
    > of roll. Grinders are sometimes heated, but not all that often. The Sub
    > definition is close.



    I would even dispute the sub definition. Hot meatball subs are a staple
    in NJ where I'm from.

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    RegForte Guest

    Default Re: Hoagie Revisited

    Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >


    >>Sub (Submarine Sandwich) - Pretty much anything on a long bread bun or
    >>part of a long
    >>bread loaf always with lettuce and other salad acompaniments, never
    >>heated.


    >
    >
    > Wow, what a load if misinformation. Hoagies go on a good Italian bread type
    > of roll. Grinders are sometimes heated, but not all that often. The Sub
    > definition is close.



    I would even dispute the sub definition. Hot meatball subs are a staple
    in NJ where I'm from.

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    Edwin Pawlowski Guest

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    "George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Fred Jones wrote:
    >> Then what is a Grinder ??
    >>

    > A grinder is heated in the oven after prep. A hoagie is made using cold
    > sliced meats/cheese and is never heated.


    Here is CT, thousands of grinders are sold every day and never heated or
    toasted. Made the same way as a hoagie. Only difference is that in Philly
    the stores could get better rolls to put them on giving "most" hoagies a
    better rating, IMO. .



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    Edwin Pawlowski Guest

    Default Re: Hoagie Revisited


    "George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Fred Jones wrote:
    >> Then what is a Grinder ??
    >>

    > A grinder is heated in the oven after prep. A hoagie is made using cold
    > sliced meats/cheese and is never heated.


    Here is CT, thousands of grinders are sold every day and never heated or
    toasted. Made the same way as a hoagie. Only difference is that in Philly
    the stores could get better rolls to put them on giving "most" hoagies a
    better rating, IMO. .



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    The Ranger Guest

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    Edwin Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:g3jcjg$gp$[email protected]..
    >> Fred Jones wrote:
    >>> Then what is a Grinder ??
    >>>

    >> A grinder is heated in the oven after prep. A hoagie is
    >> made using cold sliced meats/cheese and is never heated.
    >>

    > Here is CT, thousands of grinders are sold every day
    > and never heated or toasted. Made the same way as
    > a hoagie. Only difference is that in Philly the stores
    > could get better rolls to put them on giving "most"
    > hoagies a better rating, IMO. .


    Is there a difference in whether it's on an Italian or French
    roll?

    The Ranger



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    The Ranger Guest

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    Edwin Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:gkb7k.11514$[email protected]..
    > "George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:g3jcjg$gp$[email protected]..
    >> Fred Jones wrote:
    >>> Then what is a Grinder ??
    >>>

    >> A grinder is heated in the oven after prep. A hoagie is
    >> made using cold sliced meats/cheese and is never heated.
    >>

    > Here is CT, thousands of grinders are sold every day
    > and never heated or toasted. Made the same way as
    > a hoagie. Only difference is that in Philly the stores
    > could get better rolls to put them on giving "most"
    > hoagies a better rating, IMO. .


    Is there a difference in whether it's on an Italian or French
    roll?

    The Ranger



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    dejablues Guest

    Default Re: Hoagie Revisited


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Defimitions: (I'm from Michigan)
    >
    > Hoagie - Two or more kinds of lunchmeat and cheese on a hotdog bun,
    > usually heated.
    >
    > Sub (Submarine Sandwich) - Pretty much anything on a long bread bun or
    > part of a long
    > bread loaf always with lettuce and other salad acompaniments, never
    > heated.
    >
    > Grinder - basically a sub on which the bread/bun was buttered with butter
    > and/or
    > mayonase half of the fillings on each half of the bun and run face up
    > through the
    > broiler before the salad is added. Obviously always served hot


    Bzzzzt! Wrong!

    A classic hoagie is capicolla, hard salami, genoa salami, provolone,
    lettuce , tomato, onion, on a long hard roll with oil, basil, and oregano.
    Different meats and cheeses can be used, or even tuna salad. Some people
    like mayo but that's not a real haogie, IMO.
    Hot dog roll and butter? Where'd you get that? :-/

    A grinder is a hoagie that's been toasted in an oven. Here, a sub is the
    same thing as a hoagie, but we don't really use the term sub here in the
    Philly area.



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    dejablues Guest

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    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > Defimitions: (I'm from Michigan)
    >
    > Hoagie - Two or more kinds of lunchmeat and cheese on a hotdog bun,
    > usually heated.
    >
    > Sub (Submarine Sandwich) - Pretty much anything on a long bread bun or
    > part of a long
    > bread loaf always with lettuce and other salad acompaniments, never
    > heated.
    >
    > Grinder - basically a sub on which the bread/bun was buttered with butter
    > and/or
    > mayonase half of the fillings on each half of the bun and run face up
    > through the
    > broiler before the salad is added. Obviously always served hot


    Bzzzzt! Wrong!

    A classic hoagie is capicolla, hard salami, genoa salami, provolone,
    lettuce , tomato, onion, on a long hard roll with oil, basil, and oregano.
    Different meats and cheeses can be used, or even tuna salad. Some people
    like mayo but that's not a real haogie, IMO.
    Hot dog roll and butter? Where'd you get that? :-/

    A grinder is a hoagie that's been toasted in an oven. Here, a sub is the
    same thing as a hoagie, but we don't really use the term sub here in the
    Philly area.



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    Dimitri Guest

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    <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Defimitions: (I'm from Michigan)
    >
    > Hoagie - Two or more kinds of lunchmeat and cheese on a hotdog bun,
    > usually heated.
    >
    > Sub (Submarine Sandwich) - Pretty much anything on a long bread bun or
    > part of a long
    > bread loaf always with lettuce and other salad acompaniments, never
    > heated.
    >
    > Grinder - basically a sub on which the bread/bun was buttered with butter
    > and/or
    > mayonase half of the fillings on each half of the bun and run face up
    > through the
    > broiler before the salad is added. Obviously always served hot


    Your information source is flawed:



    --
    Old Scoundrel

    (AKA Dimitri)


    hero sandwich

    This huge sandwich goes by many names, depending on where it's made. Among
    its aliases are submarine, grinder, hoagie and poor boy (or po' boy ).
    Generally, the hero sandwich consists of a small loaf of Italian or French
    bread (or a large oblong roll), the bottom half of which is heaped with
    layers of any of various thinly sliced meats, cheeses, tomatoes, pickles,
    lettuce, peppers - anything for which the cook is in the mood.

    Copyright Barron's Educational Services, Inc. 1995 based on THE FOOD
    LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst.




    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary


    Main Entry:
    2submarine
    Function:
    noun
    Date:
    1703
    1: something that functions or operates underwater; specifically : a naval
    vessel designed to operate underwater

    2: a large sandwich on a long split roll with any of a variety of fillings
    (as meatballs or cold cuts, cheese, lettuce, and tomato) -called also
    grinder, hero, hoagie, Italian sandwich, po'boy, sub, torpedo


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