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Thread: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

  1. #1
    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    You've mentioned this over the years, something you'd get at
    2nd Avenue Deli (?) when you'd meet Margaret in NY.

    I had lunch at a New York style deli today. Same enormous
    sandwiches that you could never eat in one sitting. Of course
    I had the pastrami. The owner used to work for Carnegie Deli.

    Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. I thought about
    ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
    comes with your sandwich. I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
    to say, it was delicious. I'll have to google for the recipe. Just
    wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!

    nancy



  2. #2
    ImStillMags Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    On Jan 26, 12:06*pm, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
    > You've mentioned this over the years, something you'd get at
    > 2nd Avenue Deli (?) when you'd meet Margaret in NY. *
    >
    > I had lunch at a New York style deli today. *Same enormous
    > sandwiches that you could never eat in one sitting. *Of course
    > I had the pastrami. *The owner used to work for Carnegie Deli.
    >
    > Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. *I thought about
    > ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
    > comes with your sandwich. *I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
    > to say, it was delicious. *I'll have to google for the recipe. *Just
    > wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!
    >
    > nancy


    I found this a while back when I was looking for the same kind of deli
    salad. It comes as close as any to the
    kind of salad you are talking about, I think.

    Health Salad

    1 med head cabbage -- shredded
    3 carrots -- sliced thin
    1 green pepper -- sliced thin
    2 cucumbers -- peeled and diced
    1/2 cup sugar
    1/4 cup water
    1/2 cup oil
    1 lg onion -- sliced thin
    3/4 cups vinegar
    1/4 teaspoon salt

    Mix liquids. Add vegetables and let stand in fridge overnight.

  3. #3
    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    ImStillMags wrote:
    > On Jan 26, 12:06 pm, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
    >> You've mentioned this over the years, something you'd get at
    >> 2nd Avenue Deli (?) when you'd meet Margaret in NY.


    >> Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. I thought about
    >> ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
    >> comes with your sandwich. I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
    >> to say, it was delicious. I'll have to google for the recipe. Just
    >> wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!


    > I found this a while back when I was looking for the same kind of deli
    > salad. It comes as close as any to the
    > kind of salad you are talking about, I think.


    Thanks! The vegetables are correct ... I wondered if the salad
    would be too sweet or too vinegary from reading the recipe
    in the past, but it has a nice mellow flavor. I really liked it.

    nancy

  4. #4
    Chemo the Clown Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    On Jan 26, 12:25*pm, ImStillMags <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
    > On Jan 26, 12:06*pm, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
    >
    > > You've mentioned this over the years, something you'd get at
    > > 2nd Avenue Deli (?) when you'd meet Margaret in NY. *

    >
    > > I had lunch at a New York style deli today. *Same enormous
    > > sandwiches that you could never eat in one sitting. *Of course
    > > I had the pastrami. *The owner used to work for Carnegie Deli.

    >
    > > Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. *I thought about
    > > ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
    > > comes with your sandwich. *I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
    > > to say, it was delicious. *I'll have to google for the recipe. *Just
    > > wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!

    >
    > > nancy

    >
    > I found this a while back when I was looking for the same kind of deli
    > salad. *It comes as close as any to the
    > kind of salad you are talking about, I think.
    >
    > Health Salad
    >
    > 1 med head cabbage -- shredded
    > 3 carrots -- sliced thin
    > 1 green pepper -- sliced thin
    > 2 cucumbers -- peeled and diced
    > 1/2 cup sugar
    > 1/4 cup water
    > 1/2 cup oil
    > 1 lg onion -- sliced thin
    > 3/4 cups vinegar
    > 1/4 teaspoon salt
    >
    > Mix liquids. Add vegetables and let stand in fridge overnight.


    a half a cup of sugar?? I think honey would be a better choice.

  5. #5
    Steve Pope Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    Nancy Young <[email protected]> wrote:

    >You've mentioned this over the years, something you'd get at
    >2nd Avenue Deli (?) when you'd meet Margaret in NY.
    >
    >I had lunch at a New York style deli today. Same enormous
    >sandwiches that you could never eat in one sitting. Of course
    >I had the pastrami. The owner used to work for Carnegie Deli.
    >
    >Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. I thought about
    >ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
    >comes with your sandwich. I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
    >to say, it was delicious. I'll have to google for the recipe. Just
    >wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!


    It's cole slaw. Maybe a particular form of cole slaw, but
    pretty normatively cole slaw, so far as I can tell.

    Who dreamed up the name "heatlh salad"?

    Steve



  6. #6
    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    Steve Pope wrote:
    > Nancy Young <[email protected]> wrote:


    >> Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. I thought about
    >> ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
    >> comes with your sandwich. I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
    >> to say, it was delicious. I'll have to google for the recipe. Just
    >> wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!

    >
    > It's cole slaw. Maybe a particular form of cole slaw, but
    > pretty normatively cole slaw, so far as I can tell.


    Right. Just different shapes than the usual cole slaw.

    > Who dreamed up the name "heatlh salad"?


    The name is why I remembered it. I guess it's a Jewish deli
    staple.

    nancy

  7. #7
    ImStillMags Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    On Jan 26, 1:59*pm, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
    > Nancy Young <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
    > >You've mentioned this over the years, something you'd get at
    > >2nd Avenue Deli (?) when you'd meet Margaret in NY. *

    >
    > >I had lunch at a New York style deli today. *Same enormous
    > >sandwiches that you could never eat in one sitting. *Of course
    > >I had the pastrami. *The owner used to work for Carnegie Deli.

    >
    > >Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. *I thought about
    > >ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
    > >comes with your sandwich. *I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
    > >to say, it was delicious. *I'll have to google for the recipe. *Just
    > >wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!

    >
    > It's cole slaw. *Maybe a particular form of cole slaw, but
    > pretty normatively cole slaw, so far as I can tell.
    >
    > Who dreamed up the name "heatlh salad"?
    >
    > Steve


    It's a kosher deli term from way back. All over the Northeast deli's
    call this kind of kosher slaw "health salad".
    It is a version of cole slaw.

  8. #8
    Janet Wilder Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    Chemo the Clown wrote:
    > On Jan 26, 12:25 pm, ImStillMags <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> On Jan 26, 12:06 pm, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>
    >>> You've mentioned this over the years, something you'd get at
    >>> 2nd Avenue Deli (?) when you'd meet Margaret in NY.
    >>> I had lunch at a New York style deli today. Same enormous
    >>> sandwiches that you could never eat in one sitting. Of course
    >>> I had the pastrami. The owner used to work for Carnegie Deli.
    >>> Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. I thought about
    >>> ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
    >>> comes with your sandwich. I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
    >>> to say, it was delicious. I'll have to google for the recipe. Just
    >>> wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!
    >>> nancy

    >> I found this a while back when I was looking for the same kind of deli
    >> salad. It comes as close as any to the
    >> kind of salad you are talking about, I think.
    >>
    >> Health Salad
    >>
    >> 1 med head cabbage -- shredded
    >> 3 carrots -- sliced thin
    >> 1 green pepper -- sliced thin
    >> 2 cucumbers -- peeled and diced
    >> 1/2 cup sugar
    >> 1/4 cup water
    >> 1/2 cup oil
    >> 1 lg onion -- sliced thin
    >> 3/4 cups vinegar
    >> 1/4 teaspoon salt
    >>
    >> Mix liquids. Add vegetables and let stand in fridge overnight.

    >
    > a half a cup of sugar?? I think honey would be a better choice.


    Sugar is more authentic.

    IIRC, the best of the health salads was made by a now defunct diner in
    Montclair, NJ known as the Clairmont. They called it "Clairmont Salad"
    and it was wonderful.

    One of the family that owned that diner opened a diner in Central Jersey
    and named it "Clairmont Diner" My son took me and I was ecstatic to find
    the salad on the menu. Sadly, it was not the same as the original - by far.

    My BF, Myrna, makes the best health salad I've ever had (after
    Clairmont) and one of these days I will succeed in prying the recipe out
    of her. She refuses to divulge it.

    --
    Janet Wilder
    Way-the-heck-south Texas
    Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

  9. #9
    Andy Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    Janet Wilder <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Sugar is more authentic.
    >
    > IIRC, the best of the health salads was made by a now defunct diner in
    > Montclair, NJ known as the Clairmont. They called it "Clairmont Salad"
    > and it was wonderful.
    >
    > One of the family that owned that diner opened a diner in Central
    > Jersey and named it "Clairmont Diner" My son took me and I was
    > ecstatic to find the salad on the menu. Sadly, it was not the same as
    > the original - by far.
    >
    > My BF, Myrna, makes the best health salad I've ever had (after
    > Clairmont) and one of these days I will succeed in prying the recipe
    > out of her. She refuses to divulge it.



    Janet,

    I'm not alarmed, just surprised.

    Best,

    Andy


  10. #10
    Stan Horwitz Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    In article <hjnokg$85m$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (Steve Pope) wrote:

    > Nancy Young <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >You've mentioned this over the years, something you'd get at
    > >2nd Avenue Deli (?) when you'd meet Margaret in NY.
    > >
    > >I had lunch at a New York style deli today. Same enormous
    > >sandwiches that you could never eat in one sitting. Of course
    > >I had the pastrami. The owner used to work for Carnegie Deli.
    > >
    > >Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. I thought about
    > >ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
    > >comes with your sandwich. I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
    > >to say, it was delicious. I'll have to google for the recipe. Just
    > >wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!

    >
    > It's cole slaw. Maybe a particular form of cole slaw, but
    > pretty normatively cole slaw, so far as I can tell.
    >
    > Who dreamed up the name "heatlh salad"?


    Cole slaw is made with mayo. Health salad is made with vinegar and the
    vegetables become slightly pickled if you let the salad sit overnight.

  11. #11
    Food SnobŪ Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    On Jan 26, 8:38*pm, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
    > Janet Wilder <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > > Sugar is more authentic.

    >
    > > IIRC, the best of the health salads was made by a now defunct diner in
    > > Montclair, NJ known as the Clairmont. They called it "Clairmont Salad"
    > > and it was wonderful.

    >
    > > One of the family that owned that diner opened a diner in Central
    > > Jersey and named it "Clairmont Diner" My son took me and I was
    > > ecstatic to find the salad on the menu. Sadly, it was not the same as
    > > the original - by far.

    >
    > > My BF, Myrna, makes the best health salad I've ever had (after
    > > Clairmont) and one of these days I will succeed in prying the recipe
    > > out of her. She refuses to divulge it.

    >
    > Janet,
    >
    > I'm not alarmed, just surprised.


    Surprised that she refers to Myrna as her "BF"? I thought that stood
    for boyfriend. Maybe *best friend*?
    >
    > Best,
    >
    > Andy


    --Bryan

  12. #12
    Andy Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    Food SnobŪ <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Jan 26, 8:38*pm, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
    >> Janet Wilder <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >> > Sugar is more authentic.

    >>
    >> > IIRC, the best of the health salads was made by a now defunct diner

    in
    >> > Montclair, NJ known as the Clairmont. They called it "Clairmont

    Salad"
    >> > and it was wonderful.

    >>
    >> > One of the family that owned that diner opened a diner in Central
    >> > Jersey and named it "Clairmont Diner" My son took me and I was
    >> > ecstatic to find the salad on the menu. Sadly, it was not the same

    as
    >> > the original - by far.

    >>
    >> > My BF, Myrna, makes the best health salad I've ever had (after
    >> > Clairmont) and one of these days I will succeed in prying the recipe
    >> > out of her. She refuses to divulge it.

    >>
    >> Janet,
    >>
    >> I'm not alarmed, just surprised.

    >
    > Surprised that she refers to Myrna as her "BF"? I thought that stood
    > for boyfriend. Maybe *best friend*?
    >>
    >> Best,
    >>
    >> Andy

    >
    > --Bryan



    Ya see the trouble with vague acronyms!

    Andy

  13. #13
    Cindy Hamilton Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    On Jan 26, 9:46*pm, Stan Horwitz <s...@temple.edu> wrote:

    > Cole slaw is made with mayo. Health salad is made with vinegar and the
    > vegetables become slightly pickled if you let the salad sit overnight.


    A little dogmatic, aren't we? "Cole slaw" means, basically "cabbage
    salad". Here in the Midwest we have nothing we call "health salad",
    but we do have cole slaw made with vinaigrette.

    Cindy Hamilton

  14. #14
    Steve Pope Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    Cindy Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Jan 26, 9:46*pm, Stan Horwitz <s...@temple.edu> wrote:


    >> Cole slaw is made with mayo. Health salad is made with vinegar and the
    >> vegetables become slightly pickled if you let the salad sit overnight.


    >A little dogmatic, aren't we? "Cole slaw" means, basically "cabbage
    >salad". Here in the Midwest we have nothing we call "health salad",
    >but we do have cole slaw made with vinaigrette.


    Yeah, I don't put mayonaisse into cole slaw either.

    I have only ever seen the health salad term at 2nd Ave. Deli. I have
    not seen it at B&H, Fine and Shapiro, the old Ratner's, etc.
    I do not think of it as usual New York deli terminology.

    Steve

  15. #15
    Janet Wilder Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    Andy wrote:
    > Janet Wilder <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Sugar is more authentic.
    >>
    >> IIRC, the best of the health salads was made by a now defunct diner in
    >> Montclair, NJ known as the Clairmont. They called it "Clairmont Salad"
    >> and it was wonderful.
    >>
    >> One of the family that owned that diner opened a diner in Central
    >> Jersey and named it "Clairmont Diner" My son took me and I was
    >> ecstatic to find the salad on the menu. Sadly, it was not the same as
    >> the original - by far.
    >>
    >> My BF, Myrna, makes the best health salad I've ever had (after
    >> Clairmont) and one of these days I will succeed in prying the recipe
    >> out of her. She refuses to divulge it.

    >
    >
    > Janet,
    >
    > I'm not alarmed, just surprised.


    Best Friend.


    Don't get me in any trouble. I'm happily married.



    --
    Janet Wilder
    Way-the-heck-south Texas
    Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

  16. #16
    Gregory Morrow Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    Steve Pope wrote:

    > Cindy Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> On Jan 26, 9:46 pm, Stan Horwitz <s...@temple.edu> wrote:

    >
    >>> Cole slaw is made with mayo. Health salad is made with vinegar and
    >>> the vegetables become slightly pickled if you let the salad sit
    >>> overnight.

    >
    >> A little dogmatic, aren't we? "Cole slaw" means, basically "cabbage
    >> salad". Here in the Midwest we have nothing we call "health salad",
    >> but we do have cole slaw made with vinaigrette.

    >
    > Yeah, I don't put mayonaisse into cole slaw either.
    >
    > I have only ever seen the health salad term at 2nd Ave. Deli. I have
    > not seen it at B&H, Fine and Shapiro, the old Ratner's, etc.
    > I do not think of it as usual New York deli terminology.
    >



    The basic salad itself is also an old Midwest staple, probably because of
    the Germanic influence. I also remember eating it in Pennsylvania Dutch
    Country, the Amana Colonies in Iowa, Amish places in Indiana...


    --
    Best
    Greg



  17. #17
    Stu Guest

    Default Re: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

    X-No-Archive: yes On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:24:00 -0600, Janet Wilder
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Andy wrote:
    >> Janet Wilder <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Sugar is more authentic.
    >>>
    >>> IIRC, the best of the health salads was made by a now defunct diner in
    >>> Montclair, NJ known as the Clairmont. They called it "Clairmont Salad"
    >>> and it was wonderful.
    >>>
    >>> One of the family that owned that diner opened a diner in Central
    >>> Jersey and named it "Clairmont Diner" My son took me and I was
    >>> ecstatic to find the salad on the menu. Sadly, it was not the same as
    >>> the original - by far.
    >>>
    >>> My BF, Myrna, makes the best health salad I've ever had (after
    >>> Clairmont) and one of these days I will succeed in prying the recipe
    >>> out of her. She refuses to divulge it.

    >>
    >>
    >> Janet,
    >>
    >> I'm not alarmed, just surprised.

    >
    >Best Friend.
    >
    >
    >Don't get me in any trouble. I'm happily married.



    Claremont Diner in Verona, New Jersey
    which is where this Health Salad recipe came from.


    Health salad

    2 tablespoons sugar
    3 tablespoons vinegar
    2 tablespoons of salad oil
    1 tablespoon of water
    1 teaspoon of salt
    1 cucumber (sliced)
    1 carrot (sliced)
    1 green pepper (sliced)
    1 bermuda onion (sliced)
    3/4 head of cabbage (shredded)

    Shake the sugar, vinegar, salad oil, water, and salt together in a
    large jar and pour the mixture over the vegetables. Leave the
    vegetables and mix at room temperature for two (2) hours.

    Put it in the refrigerator over night. Done, enjoy !!
    You may substitute lettuce and tomato for the cabbage.




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