Thread: Hey Stan ... Health Salad

On Jan 26, 12:06*pm, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
> You've mentioned this over the years, something you'd get at
> 2nd Avenue Deli (?) when you'd meet Margaret in NY. *
>
> I had lunch at a New York style deli today. *Same enormous
> sandwiches that you could never eat in one sitting. *Of course
> I had the pastrami. *The owner used to work for Carnegie Deli.
>
> Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. *I thought about
> ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
> comes with your sandwich. *I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
> to say, it was delicious. *I'll have to google for the recipe. *Just
> wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!
>
> nancy

I found this a while back when I was looking for the same kind of deli
salad. It comes as close as any to the
kind of salad you are talking about, I think.

Health Salad

1 med head cabbage -- shredded
3 carrots -- sliced thin
1 green pepper -- sliced thin
2 cucumbers -- peeled and diced
1/2 cup sugar
1/4 cup water
1/2 cup oil
1 lg onion -- sliced thin
3/4 cups vinegar
1/4 teaspoon salt

Mix liquids. Add vegetables and let stand in fridge overnight.

ImStillMags wrote:
> On Jan 26, 12:06 pm, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> You've mentioned this over the years, something you'd get at
>> 2nd Avenue Deli (?) when you'd meet Margaret in NY.

>> Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. I thought about
>> ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
>> comes with your sandwich. I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
>> to say, it was delicious. I'll have to google for the recipe. Just
>> wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!

> I found this a while back when I was looking for the same kind of deli
> salad. It comes as close as any to the
> kind of salad you are talking about, I think.

Thanks! The vegetables are correct ... I wondered if the salad
would be too sweet or too vinegary from reading the recipe
in the past, but it has a nice mellow flavor. I really liked it.

nancy

On Jan 26, 12:25*pm, ImStillMags <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 26, 12:06*pm, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > You've mentioned this over the years, something you'd get at
> > 2nd Avenue Deli (?) when you'd meet Margaret in NY. *
>
> > I had lunch at a New York style deli today. *Same enormous
> > sandwiches that you could never eat in one sitting. *Of course
> > I had the pastrami. *The owner used to work for Carnegie Deli.
>
> > Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. *I thought about
> > ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
> > comes with your sandwich. *I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
> > to say, it was delicious. *I'll have to google for the recipe. *Just
> > wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!
>
> > nancy
>
> I found this a while back when I was looking for the same kind of deli
> salad. *It comes as close as any to the
> kind of salad you are talking about, I think.
>
> Health Salad
>
> 1 med head cabbage -- shredded
> 3 carrots -- sliced thin
> 1 green pepper -- sliced thin
> 2 cucumbers -- peeled and diced
> 1/2 cup sugar
> 1/4 cup water
> 1/2 cup oil
> 1 lg onion -- sliced thin
> 3/4 cups vinegar
> 1/4 teaspoon salt
>
> Mix liquids. Add vegetables and let stand in fridge overnight.

a half a cup of sugar?? I think honey would be a better choice.

Nancy Young <[email protected]> wrote:

>You've mentioned this over the years, something you'd get at
>2nd Avenue Deli (?) when you'd meet Margaret in NY.
>
>I had lunch at a New York style deli today. Same enormous
>sandwiches that you could never eat in one sitting. Of course
>I had the pastrami. The owner used to work for Carnegie Deli.
>
>Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. I thought about
>ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
>comes with your sandwich. I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
>to say, it was delicious. I'll have to google for the recipe. Just
>wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!

It's cole slaw. Maybe a particular form of cole slaw, but
pretty normatively cole slaw, so far as I can tell.

Who dreamed up the name "heatlh salad"?

Steve

Steve Pope wrote:
> Nancy Young <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. I thought about
>> ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
>> comes with your sandwich. I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
>> to say, it was delicious. I'll have to google for the recipe. Just
>> wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!
>
> It's cole slaw. Maybe a particular form of cole slaw, but
> pretty normatively cole slaw, so far as I can tell.

Right. Just different shapes than the usual cole slaw.

> Who dreamed up the name "heatlh salad"?

The name is why I remembered it. I guess it's a Jewish deli
staple.

nancy

On Jan 26, 1:59*pm, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
> Nancy Young <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >You've mentioned this over the years, something you'd get at
> >2nd Avenue Deli (?) when you'd meet Margaret in NY. *
>
> >I had lunch at a New York style deli today. *Same enormous
> >sandwiches that you could never eat in one sitting. *Of course
> >I had the pastrami. *The owner used to work for Carnegie Deli.
>
> >Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. *I thought about
> >ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
> >comes with your sandwich. *I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
> >to say, it was delicious. *I'll have to google for the recipe. *Just
> >wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!
>
> It's cole slaw. *Maybe a particular form of cole slaw, but
> pretty normatively cole slaw, so far as I can tell.
>
> Who dreamed up the name "heatlh salad"?
>
> Steve

It's a kosher deli term from way back. All over the Northeast deli's
call this kind of kosher slaw "health salad".
It is a version of cole slaw.

Chemo the Clown wrote:
> On Jan 26, 12:25 pm, ImStillMags <sitara8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 26, 12:06 pm, "Nancy Young" <rjynly...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> You've mentioned this over the years, something you'd get at
>>> 2nd Avenue Deli (?) when you'd meet Margaret in NY.
>>> I had lunch at a New York style deli today. Same enormous
>>> sandwiches that you could never eat in one sitting. Of course
>>> I had the pastrami. The owner used to work for Carnegie Deli.
>>> Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. I thought about
>>> ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
>>> comes with your sandwich. I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
>>> to say, it was delicious. I'll have to google for the recipe. Just
>>> wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!
>>> nancy
>> I found this a while back when I was looking for the same kind of deli
>> salad. It comes as close as any to the
>> kind of salad you are talking about, I think.
>>
>> Health Salad
>>
>> 1 med head cabbage -- shredded
>> 3 carrots -- sliced thin
>> 1 green pepper -- sliced thin
>> 2 cucumbers -- peeled and diced
>> 1/2 cup sugar
>> 1/4 cup water
>> 1/2 cup oil
>> 1 lg onion -- sliced thin
>> 3/4 cups vinegar
>> 1/4 teaspoon salt
>>
>> Mix liquids. Add vegetables and let stand in fridge overnight.
>
> a half a cup of sugar?? I think honey would be a better choice.

Sugar is more authentic.

IIRC, the best of the health salads was made by a now defunct diner in
Montclair, NJ known as the Clairmont. They called it "Clairmont Salad"
and it was wonderful.

One of the family that owned that diner opened a diner in Central Jersey
and named it "Clairmont Diner" My son took me and I was ecstatic to find
the salad on the menu. Sadly, it was not the same as the original - by far.

My BF, Myrna, makes the best health salad I've ever had (after
Clairmont) and one of these days I will succeed in prying the recipe out
of her. She refuses to divulge it.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Janet Wilder <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sugar is more authentic.
>
> IIRC, the best of the health salads was made by a now defunct diner in
> Montclair, NJ known as the Clairmont. They called it "Clairmont Salad"
> and it was wonderful.
>
> One of the family that owned that diner opened a diner in Central
> Jersey and named it "Clairmont Diner" My son took me and I was
> ecstatic to find the salad on the menu. Sadly, it was not the same as
> the original - by far.
>
> My BF, Myrna, makes the best health salad I've ever had (after
> Clairmont) and one of these days I will succeed in prying the recipe
> out of her. She refuses to divulge it.


Janet,

I'm not alarmed, just surprised.

Best,

Andy

In article <hjnokg$85m$[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Steve Pope) wrote:

> Nancy Young <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >You've mentioned this over the years, something you'd get at
> >2nd Avenue Deli (?) when you'd meet Margaret in NY.
> >
> >I had lunch at a New York style deli today. Same enormous
> >sandwiches that you could never eat in one sitting. Of course
> >I had the pastrami. The owner used to work for Carnegie Deli.
> >
> >Anyway, I saw it on the menu: Health Salad. I thought about
> >ordering some until I saw they had it on the pickle bar that
> >comes with your sandwich. I wasn't sure I'd like it, but I have
> >to say, it was delicious. I'll have to google for the recipe. Just
> >wanted to say You're right, it's good stuff!
>
> It's cole slaw. Maybe a particular form of cole slaw, but
> pretty normatively cole slaw, so far as I can tell.
>
> Who dreamed up the name "heatlh salad"?

Cole slaw is made with mayo. Health salad is made with vinegar and the
vegetables become slightly pickled if you let the salad sit overnight.

On Jan 26, 8:38*pm, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
> Janet Wilder <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Sugar is more authentic.
>
> > IIRC, the best of the health salads was made by a now defunct diner in
> > Montclair, NJ known as the Clairmont. They called it "Clairmont Salad"
> > and it was wonderful.
>
> > One of the family that owned that diner opened a diner in Central
> > Jersey and named it "Clairmont Diner" My son took me and I was
> > ecstatic to find the salad on the menu. Sadly, it was not the same as
> > the original - by far.
>
> > My BF, Myrna, makes the best health salad I've ever had (after
> > Clairmont) and one of these days I will succeed in prying the recipe
> > out of her. She refuses to divulge it.
>
> Janet,
>
> I'm not alarmed, just surprised.

Surprised that she refers to Myrna as her "BF"? I thought that stood
for boyfriend. Maybe *best friend*?
>
> Best,
>
> Andy

--Bryan

Food Snob® <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Jan 26, 8:38*pm, Andy <a...@b.c> wrote:
>> Janet Wilder <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Sugar is more authentic.
>>
>> > IIRC, the best of the health salads was made by a now defunct diner
in
>> > Montclair, NJ known as the Clairmont. They called it "Clairmont
Salad"
>> > and it was wonderful.
>>
>> > One of the family that owned that diner opened a diner in Central
>> > Jersey and named it "Clairmont Diner" My son took me and I was
>> > ecstatic to find the salad on the menu. Sadly, it was not the same
as
>> > the original - by far.
>>
>> > My BF, Myrna, makes the best health salad I've ever had (after
>> > Clairmont) and one of these days I will succeed in prying the recipe
>> > out of her. She refuses to divulge it.
>>
>> Janet,
>>
>> I'm not alarmed, just surprised.
>
> Surprised that she refers to Myrna as her "BF"? I thought that stood
> for boyfriend. Maybe *best friend*?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andy
>
> --Bryan


Ya see the trouble with vague acronyms!

Andy

On Jan 26, 9:46*pm, Stan Horwitz <s...@temple.edu> wrote:

> Cole slaw is made with mayo. Health salad is made with vinegar and the
> vegetables become slightly pickled if you let the salad sit overnight.

A little dogmatic, aren't we? "Cole slaw" means, basically "cabbage
salad". Here in the Midwest we have nothing we call "health salad",
but we do have cole slaw made with vinaigrette.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Jan 26, 9:46*pm, Stan Horwitz <s...@temple.edu> wrote:

>> Cole slaw is made with mayo. Health salad is made with vinegar and the
>> vegetables become slightly pickled if you let the salad sit overnight.

>A little dogmatic, aren't we? "Cole slaw" means, basically "cabbage
>salad". Here in the Midwest we have nothing we call "health salad",
>but we do have cole slaw made with vinaigrette.

Yeah, I don't put mayonaisse into cole slaw either.

I have only ever seen the health salad term at 2nd Ave. Deli. I have
not seen it at B&H, Fine and Shapiro, the old Ratner's, etc.
I do not think of it as usual New York deli terminology.

Steve

Andy wrote:
> Janet Wilder <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sugar is more authentic.
>>
>> IIRC, the best of the health salads was made by a now defunct diner in
>> Montclair, NJ known as the Clairmont. They called it "Clairmont Salad"
>> and it was wonderful.
>>
>> One of the family that owned that diner opened a diner in Central
>> Jersey and named it "Clairmont Diner" My son took me and I was
>> ecstatic to find the salad on the menu. Sadly, it was not the same as
>> the original - by far.
>>
>> My BF, Myrna, makes the best health salad I've ever had (after
>> Clairmont) and one of these days I will succeed in prying the recipe
>> out of her. She refuses to divulge it.
>
>
> Janet,
>
> I'm not alarmed, just surprised.

Best Friend.


Don't get me in any trouble. I'm happily married.



--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Steve Pope wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 26, 9:46 pm, Stan Horwitz <s...@temple.edu> wrote:
>
>>> Cole slaw is made with mayo. Health salad is made with vinegar and
>>> the vegetables become slightly pickled if you let the salad sit
>>> overnight.
>
>> A little dogmatic, aren't we? "Cole slaw" means, basically "cabbage
>> salad". Here in the Midwest we have nothing we call "health salad",
>> but we do have cole slaw made with vinaigrette.
>
> Yeah, I don't put mayonaisse into cole slaw either.
>
> I have only ever seen the health salad term at 2nd Ave. Deli. I have
> not seen it at B&H, Fine and Shapiro, the old Ratner's, etc.
> I do not think of it as usual New York deli terminology.
>


The basic salad itself is also an old Midwest staple, probably because of
the Germanic influence. I also remember eating it in Pennsylvania Dutch
Country, the Amana Colonies in Iowa, Amish places in Indiana...


--
Best
Greg

X-No-Archive: yes On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:24:00 -0600, Janet Wilder
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Andy wrote:
>> Janet Wilder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Sugar is more authentic.
>>>
>>> IIRC, the best of the health salads was made by a now defunct diner in
>>> Montclair, NJ known as the Clairmont. They called it "Clairmont Salad"
>>> and it was wonderful.
>>>
>>> One of the family that owned that diner opened a diner in Central
>>> Jersey and named it "Clairmont Diner" My son took me and I was
>>> ecstatic to find the salad on the menu. Sadly, it was not the same as
>>> the original - by far.
>>>
>>> My BF, Myrna, makes the best health salad I've ever had (after
>>> Clairmont) and one of these days I will succeed in prying the recipe
>>> out of her. She refuses to divulge it.
>>
>>
>> Janet,
>>
>> I'm not alarmed, just surprised.
>
>Best Friend.
>
>
>Don't get me in any trouble. I'm happily married.


Claremont Diner in Verona, New Jersey
which is where this Health Salad recipe came from.


Health salad

2 tablespoons sugar
3 tablespoons vinegar
2 tablespoons of salad oil
1 tablespoon of water
1 teaspoon of salt
1 cucumber (sliced)
1 carrot (sliced)
1 green pepper (sliced)
1 bermuda onion (sliced)
3/4 head of cabbage (shredded)

Shake the sugar, vinegar, salad oil, water, and salt together in a
large jar and pour the mixture over the vegetables. Leave the
vegetables and mix at room temperature for two (2) hours.

Put it in the refrigerator over night. Done, enjoy !!
You may substitute lettuce and tomato for the cabbage.