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    Kent Guest

    Default Re: A happy piece of ungraded beef


    "Nunya Bidnits" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Re: 608d5c91-9719-456d-93a1-bffbff39f19a...oglegroups.com
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    > Bryan <[email protected]> wrote:
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    >> I bought an ungraded tenderloin today, and had them cut it into 1"
    >> steaks. Yes, it was awfully lean, but that's the way my wife and son
    >> prefer meat anyway. Was it as tender as Choice? No, and noticeably
    >> so. Did it taste "old," in any way? No. I cooked it rare for me and
    >> son, m rare for spouse, and everyone was very pleased. Truthfully, I
    >> consider "well marbled" beef to be a curiosity, a thing to experience
    >> only very occasionally. Without personally commenting upon my, or
    >> anyone else's sexual practices, I think of that fatty beef is
    >> analogous to fairly normal sexual deviations that many folks practice,
    >> but most often as novelties. Who here seeks out Kobe or Wagyu on any
    >> kind of regular basis?
    >>
    >> I love lean beef, and my wife and son really don't like fat. Don't
    >> believe that all ungraded beef has anything wrong with it other than
    >> being poorly marbled. Some is, and some is not.
    >>
    >> My family had a very hedonistic beef experience this evening, for a
    >> very decent price, and we'll be doing it again very soon. Perhaps
    >> we'll invite Mr. Kuthe over Tuesday for an early dinner.
    >>
    >> --Bryan

    >
    > Ungraded beef does not always mean low quality but it's certainly a red
    > flag. Law requires meat to be inspected, but grading is voluntary at the
    > expense of the producer. The low grades are specified for commercial
    > processing.
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef#USDA_beef_grades
    >
    >

    I wonder what grade Safeway's "Rancher's Reserve" is. Someone once told me
    it was select.

    Kent




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    Dan Abel Guest

    Default Re: A happy piece of ungraded beef

    In article <ion8hh$iv1$[email protected]>, "Kent" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > "Nunya Bidnits" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > > Ungraded beef does not always mean low quality but it's certainly a red
    > > flag. Law requires meat to be inspected, but grading is voluntary at the
    > > expense of the producer. The low grades are specified for commercial
    > > processing.
    > >
    > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef#USDA_beef_grades
    > >
    > >

    > I wonder what grade Safeway's "Rancher's Reserve" is. Someone once told me
    > it was select.


    I've heard for years that Safeway beef is mostly ungraded. Some
    Safeways have offered graded beef. I read reports from people who claim
    to know a thing or two about beef, that if Safeway beef *was* graded, it
    would be graded select.

    --
    Dan Abel
    Petaluma, California USA
    [email protected]

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    Nunya Bidnits Guest

    Default Re: A happy piece of ungraded beef

    Re: dabel-8E47DA.14173820042011@c-61-68-...connect.net.au

    Dan Abel <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In article <ion8hh$iv1$[email protected]>, "Kent"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> "Nunya Bidnits" <[email protected]> wrote in
    >> message news:iolhda$ivt$[email protected]..

    >
    >>> Ungraded beef does not always mean low quality but it's certainly a
    >>> red flag. Law requires meat to be inspected, but grading is
    >>> voluntary at the expense of the producer. The low grades are
    >>> specified for commercial processing.
    >>>
    >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef#USDA_beef_grades
    >>>
    >>>

    >> I wonder what grade Safeway's "Rancher's Reserve" is. Someone once
    >> told me it was select.

    >
    > I've heard for years that Safeway beef is mostly ungraded. Some
    > Safeways have offered graded beef. I read reports from people who
    > claim to know a thing or two about beef, that if Safeway beef *was*
    > graded, it would be graded select.


    If they have enough control over their supply chain they don't really need
    it. They could just apply their own standards which would have to take into
    account the same factors as the USDA system. This lets them create their own
    beef brand to make comparison with meats labeled by grade and/or
    certification more difficult.

    Here's confirmation from their website where they hand out information in
    blog form. The following was found at
    http://community.safeway.com/t5/Our-...serve/ba-p/530 :
    ==============
    by Kate-Mom on 08-13-2010 09:18 AM
    Ranchers Reserve beef is USDA inspected and is graded either select or
    choice. We do not specify a grade because we have the grower grow to our
    specifications not to a grade. This means we have better controls on the
    finished product and can promise the tag line "Tender beef at its best". We
    sell the brand name to customers with the understanding that we provide more
    than a grade from an USDA grader. We manage the cattle from the ranches all
    the way through the feed lots, right to the store, therefore it's more than
    a promise of a grade it is a higher expectation of tenderness for the same
    price as all the other retailers that purchase their cattle from just
    anyone. 80% of the cattle sold in supermarkets have no know origin and are
    not managed all the way through the system, such as Safeway does with
    Ranchers Reserve beef.
    =========

    That's their claim. But you can't find anything specific where they show any
    comparison with the USDA grades.

    In contrast look at another branded beef, Certified Angus Beef, which
    publishes their own chart which shows that beef carrying the CAB label is
    higher end choice or better.
    http://www.certifiedangusbeef.com/brand/grades.php (It's worth looking
    around the site while you're there, in particluar the requirement to pass
    ten specifications that are not included in the USDA grades.)

    MartyB



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