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  1. #1
    phaeton Guest

    Default Hamburger patties.... WWJD?

    I know that hamburgers aren't fine dining, but sometimes I just want
    one. Not a fast-food burger, either, a real one. There are a couple
    of places here in town that will serve a decent burger, but due to
    scheduling, time (and sometimes money) it's not always an option.
    Meanwhile, I have a George Foreman grill sitting at home that I've
    never used.

    I could stack up a bunch of raw hamburger patties on waxed paper in a
    container in the fridge, and fry one when I want one. Problem is,
    i'll have to commit to eating burgers for every meal to avoid waste.
    I don't mind eating burgers that much, but it's not very healthy.

    So, in lieu of that, would it be best to:

    1) make a bunch of raw patties and freeze them. Pull one out when I
    want one and put it straight on the grill- no thawing, just go from
    frozen to cooked. I know that there are pre-frozen patties for this
    use available in the supermarket, but by doing this myself I hope to
    have something that is a better grade of beef and is less processed.

    2) fry a bunch of patties and freeze them in a cooked state. Pull one
    out when I want one and microwave it. This is the quickest
    preparation, but will the taste and texture suffer more?

    What do you suppose the shelf lives in the freezer would be for the
    two options?

    Sorry for the dumb questions.

    Thanks

    -J

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    ImStillMags Guest

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    On Feb 7, 10:58*am, phaeton <blahbleh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > I know that hamburgers aren't fine dining, but sometimes I just want
    > one. *Not a fast-food burger, either, a real one. *There are a couple
    > of places here in town that will serve a decent burger, but due to
    > scheduling, time (and sometimes money) it's not always an option.
    > Meanwhile, I have a George Foreman grill sitting at home that I've
    > never used.
    >
    > I could stack up a bunch of raw hamburger patties on waxed paper in a
    > container in the fridge, and fry one when I want one. *Problem is,
    > i'll have to commit to eating burgers for every meal to avoid waste.
    > I don't mind eating burgers that much, but it's not very healthy.
    >
    > So, in lieu of that, would it be best to:
    >
    > 1) make a bunch of raw patties and freeze them. *Pull one out when I
    > want one and put it straight on the grill- no thawing, just go from
    > frozen to cooked. *I know that there are pre-frozen patties for this
    > use available in the supermarket, but by doing this myself I hope to
    > have something that is a better grade of beef and is less processed.
    >
    > 2) fry a bunch of patties and freeze them in a cooked state. *Pull one
    > out when I want one and microwave it. *This is the quickest
    > preparation, but will the taste and texture suffer more?
    >
    > What do you suppose the shelf lives in the freezer would be for the
    > two options?
    >
    > Sorry for the dumb questions.
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > -J


    First off I tried to do hamburgers in the George Forman grill. I
    found it more steams the meat than grills it.
    I would use a grill pan on the stove or just a cast iron skillet.

    The best burgers are made yourself. Grab a lean cut of chuck roast
    and your food processor. Cut out the
    gristle and big fat pockets from the chuck, cut it into small chunks
    and them process them a few chunks at a
    time by pulsing till the meat "looks" like hamburger. Form whatever
    size patties you like. Wrap them
    individually first in plastic wrap and then in foil and freeze
    them.

    Then, before you leave the house for work. Take a patty out of the
    freezer. Take off the foil and put the
    patty on a saucer and leave in the refrigerator to thaw. By the time
    you get home it should be sufficiently
    thawed to cook.

    cook on a grill pan or cast iron skillet and Ta Da!!! a really really
    good hamburger.

    And you know where the meat came from and exactly what's in it. I
    don't trust pre made patties at all.

    Oh, btw. Black pepper and garlic salt on the patty before you cook
    it. I know, I've heard you should never
    salt a burger before you cook it but I have found that it pulls a bit
    of moisture out of the beef and makes a crust
    rather than drying it out.

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    Ed Pawlowski Guest

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    "phaeton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > So, in lieu of that, would it be best to:
    >
    > 1) make a bunch of raw patties and freeze them. Pull one out when I
    > want one and put it straight on the grill- no thawing, just go from
    > frozen to cooked. I know that there are pre-frozen patties for this
    > use available in the supermarket, but by doing this myself I hope to
    > have something that is a better grade of beef and is less processed.


    I'd thaw it first. I've never used a GF grill so that may help steam them a
    bit, but frying, the outside will burn before the inside is cooked. Thaw
    them by sitting the patty in a thick cast iron or aluminum pan. If I had a
    GF grill, I might try one to see what does happen though.


    >
    > 2) fry a bunch of patties and freeze them in a cooked state. Pull one
    > out when I want one and microwave it. This is the quickest
    > preparation, but will the taste and texture suffer more?


    They would be OK in a pinch, but not as good as right now cooked.

    >
    > What do you suppose the shelf lives in the freezer would be for the
    > two options?


    Easy 4 to 6 months if well wrapped. I'd freeze them at least partly, then
    wrap in plastic wrap, then in a bag to freeze.


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    Kajikit Guest

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    On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:58:00 -0800 (PST), phaeton
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I know that hamburgers aren't fine dining, but sometimes I just want
    >one. Not a fast-food burger, either, a real one. There are a couple
    >of places here in town that will serve a decent burger, but due to
    >scheduling, time (and sometimes money) it's not always an option.
    >Meanwhile, I have a George Foreman grill sitting at home that I've
    >never used.
    >
    >I could stack up a bunch of raw hamburger patties on waxed paper in a
    >container in the fridge, and fry one when I want one. Problem is,
    >i'll have to commit to eating burgers for every meal to avoid waste.
    >I don't mind eating burgers that much, but it's not very healthy.
    >
    >So, in lieu of that, would it be best to:
    >
    >1) make a bunch of raw patties and freeze them. Pull one out when I
    >want one and put it straight on the grill- no thawing, just go from
    >frozen to cooked. I know that there are pre-frozen patties for this
    >use available in the supermarket, but by doing this myself I hope to
    >have something that is a better grade of beef and is less processed.
    >
    >2) fry a bunch of patties and freeze them in a cooked state. Pull one
    >out when I want one and microwave it. This is the quickest
    >preparation, but will the taste and texture suffer more?
    >
    >What do you suppose the shelf lives in the freezer would be for the
    >two options?
    >
    >Sorry for the dumb questions.
    >
    >Thanks
    >
    >-J


    I just freeze the ground beef in meal-sized portions and when I want
    to make the burgers I thaw out the chunk in the microwave and then
    dump it into the pan in patty shapes. It doesn't matter if it's still
    a bit frozen in the middle - the heat of the grill will thaw AND cook
    it.
    --

    My website - http://www.kajikitscorner.com
    My cooking blog - http://kajikit.wordpress.com
    My crafty blog - http://kajikit.blogspot.com

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    Steve Pope Guest

    Default Re: Hamburger patties.... WWJD?

    On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:58:00 -0800 (PST), phaeton

    >I know that hamburgers aren't fine dining,


    Disagree!!

    >but sometimes I just want
    >one. Not a fast-food burger, either, a real one. There are a couple
    >of places here in town that will serve a decent burger, but due to
    >scheduling, time (and sometimes money) it's not always an option.
    >Meanwhile, I have a George Foreman grill sitting at home that I've
    >never used.


    >I could stack up a bunch of raw hamburger patties on waxed paper in a
    >container in the fridge, and fry one when I want one. Problem is,
    >i'll have to commit to eating burgers for every meal to avoid waste.
    >I don't mind eating burgers that much, but it's not very healthy.


    >So, in lieu of that, would it be best to:


    >1) make a bunch of raw patties and freeze them. [snip]


    >2) fry a bunch of patties and freeze them in a cooked state. [snip]


    We just went through this exercise today -- we had a pound of
    grass-fed hamburger from the farmers' market. We don't normally eat
    a full serving of meat more than once or twice per week. So
    we wanted to figure out how to freeze half of it.

    So we made hamburgers using half a pound, and took the rest of it
    and fried it up with NM chile powder and added it to a batch of
    chili, and froze that. Cooked chili with cooked ground beef
    freezes really well. The total weight of the chili, including
    the cooked ground beef, was 40 ounces.

    But of your two original options, I prefer neither -- if it is
    fresh, never frozen hamburger, I would freeze it before ever
    even forming it into patties.

    Steve

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    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Hamburger patties.... WWJD?

    On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:58:00 -0800 (PST), phaeton wrote:

    > So, in lieu of that, would it be best to:
    >
    > 1) make a bunch of raw patties and freeze them.


    Yes.

    a> Let it sit out to thaw partially before cooking.
    b> Put it in a low power microwave to thaw (many people couldn't
    get this right if their life depended on it)
    c> Direct to the griddle or grill on low at first , then higher to
    brown.

    -sw

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    j h Guest

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    Haven't found that my GF grill steams meats, but I preheat it until the
    light goes off before putting meat in the grill. And having any excess
    fat drain off is a plus compared to skillet frying.

    Better to freeze raw than precooked patties, but defrost just before
    cooking. Better flavor and texture. jh


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    lil abner Guest

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    Kajikit wrote:
    > On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:58:00 -0800 (PST), phaeton
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> I know that hamburgers aren't fine dining, but sometimes I just want
    >> one. Not a fast-food burger, either, a real one. There are a couple
    >> of places here in town that will serve a decent burger, but due to
    >> scheduling, time (and sometimes money) it's not always an option.
    >> Meanwhile, I have a George Foreman grill sitting at home that I've
    >> never used.
    >>
    >> I could stack up a bunch of raw hamburger patties on waxed paper in a
    >> container in the fridge, and fry one when I want one. Problem is,
    >> i'll have to commit to eating burgers for every meal to avoid waste.
    >> I don't mind eating burgers that much, but it's not very healthy.
    >>
    >> So, in lieu of that, would it be best to:
    >>
    >> 1) make a bunch of raw patties and freeze them. Pull one out when I
    >> want one and put it straight on the grill- no thawing, just go from
    >> frozen to cooked. I know that there are pre-frozen patties for this
    >> use available in the supermarket, but by doing this myself I hope to
    >> have something that is a better grade of beef and is less processed.
    >>
    >> 2) fry a bunch of patties and freeze them in a cooked state. Pull one
    >> out when I want one and microwave it. This is the quickest
    >> preparation, but will the taste and texture suffer more?
    >>
    >> What do you suppose the shelf lives in the freezer would be for the
    >> two options?
    >>
    >> Sorry for the dumb questions.
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >>
    >> -J

    >
    > I just freeze the ground beef in meal-sized portions and when I want
    > to make the burgers I thaw out the chunk in the microwave and then
    > dump it into the pan in patty shapes. It doesn't matter if it's still
    > a bit frozen in the middle - the heat of the grill will thaw AND cook
    > it.

    I wuit buying ground beef, hamburger from anyone ut the butcher who
    grinds his own.
    Pink Slime is not something I want in my meat or the other stuff they
    now put in all meat from most Retailers.

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    Melba's Jammin' Guest

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    In article
    <[email protected]>,
    phaeton <[email protected]> wrote:

    I'd make the patties and freeze them raw.
    --
    -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
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    blake murphy Guest

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    On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:10:36 -0600, Melba's Jammin' wrote:

    > In article
    > <a30b095[email protected]>,
    > phaeton <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > I'd make the patties and freeze them raw.


    i'm usually cooking for one and that's what i do. it takes a little
    foresight to take one out of the freezer the night before to defrost in the
    refrigerator, but even this grasshopper can handle that.

    cooking them beforehand and zapping seems like it would be a mistake.

    your pal,
    blake

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    James Silverton Guest

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    blake wrote on Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:47:52 -0500:

    >> In article
    >> <[email protected]
    >> .com>, phaeton <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> I'd make the patties and freeze them raw.


    > i'm usually cooking for one and that's what i do. it takes a
    > little foresight to take one out of the freezer the night
    > before to defrost in the refrigerator, but even this
    > grasshopper can handle that.


    > cooking them beforehand and zapping seems like it would be a
    > mistake.


    You don't really have to wait hours for ground meat to defrost in the
    fridge. 30 seconds per serving in the microwave will get the process
    started. You can run cool water over the sealed meat tho' that's better
    for shrimps and other fish.

    --

    James Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

    Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


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    J. Clarke Guest

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    James Silverton wrote:
    > blake wrote on Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:47:52 -0500:
    >
    >>> In article
    >>> <[email protected]
    >>> .com>, phaeton <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> I'd make the patties and freeze them raw.

    >
    >> i'm usually cooking for one and that's what i do. it takes a
    >> little foresight to take one out of the freezer the night
    >> before to defrost in the refrigerator, but even this
    >> grasshopper can handle that.

    >
    >> cooking them beforehand and zapping seems like it would be a
    >> mistake.

    >
    > You don't really have to wait hours for ground meat to defrost in the
    > fridge. 30 seconds per serving in the microwave will get the process
    > started. You can run cool water over the sealed meat tho' that's
    > better for shrimps and other fish.


    I'm fortunate enough to have one with auto-defrost. Works a treat. Before
    I had that though I'd throw a frozen burger in the pan and it would come out
    tasty but not very appealing cosmetically.



  13. #13
    blake murphy Guest

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    On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:52:02 -0500, James Silverton wrote:

    > blake wrote on Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:47:52 -0500:
    >
    >>> In article
    >>> <[email protected]
    >>> .com>, phaeton <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> I'd make the patties and freeze them raw.

    >
    >> i'm usually cooking for one and that's what i do. it takes a
    >> little foresight to take one out of the freezer the night
    >> before to defrost in the refrigerator, but even this
    >> grasshopper can handle that.

    >
    >> cooking them beforehand and zapping seems like it would be a
    >> mistake.

    >
    > You don't really have to wait hours for ground meat to defrost in the
    > fridge. 30 seconds per serving in the microwave will get the process
    > started. You can run cool water over the sealed meat tho' that's better
    > for shrimps and other fish.


    i know it can be done, but i've not done it.

    your pal,
    blake

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