Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 68

Thread: Half a billion eggs

  1. #1
    zxcvbob Guest

    Default Half a billion eggs

    ....recalled for salmonella, and the number is still growing. What a
    waste! Why can't they encourage people to cook them unusually
    thoroughly instead of throwing them away? They should be fine for
    baking and for scrambled eggs, just don't eat them raw or cooked
    with still-runny yolks.

    Bob

  2. #2
    Cheryl Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs

    "zxcvbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > ...recalled for salmonella, and the number is still growing. What a
    > waste! Why can't they encourage people to cook them unusually thoroughly
    > instead of throwing them away? They should be fine for baking and for
    > scrambled eggs, just don't eat them raw or cooked with still-runny yolks.


    I wondered that, too.


  3. #3
    Manda Ruby Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs

    On Aug 21, 3:26*pm, zxcvbob <zxcv...@charter.net> wrote:
    > ...recalled for salmonella, and the number is still growing. *What a
    > waste! *Why can't they encourage people to cook them unusually
    > thoroughly instead of throwing them away? *They should be fine for
    > baking and for scrambled eggs, just don't eat them raw or cooked
    > with still-runny yolks.
    >
    > Bob

    Did you hear about a restaurant thta lost cutomer after a cusotner
    died from it. It was just before the recall. The restaurant was a
    reputble one and so they're dumbfounded. Only with the recall, the
    authorities were able to put the puzzle together.

    May be they'll sell to the companies that uses in some food items.

  4. #4
    Motzarella Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs



    "Manda Ruby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Aug 21, 3:26 pm, zxcvbob <zxcv...@charter.net> wrote:
    >> ...recalled for salmonella, and the number is still growing. What a
    >> waste! Why can't they encourage people to cook them unusually
    >> thoroughly instead of throwing them away? They should be fine for
    >> baking and for scrambled eggs, just don't eat them raw or cooked
    >> with still-runny yolks.
    >>
    >> Bob

    > Did you hear about a restaurant thta lost cutomer after a cusotner
    > died from it. It was just before the recall. The restaurant was a
    > reputble one and so they're dumbfounded. Only with the recall, the
    > authorities were able to put the puzzle together.
    >
    > May be they'll sell to the companies that uses in some food items.


    Sort of like the tomato company that sold their off product to another
    manufacturer whose cooked product included said tomatoes. Took the FDA a tad
    longer, but still found source of that salmonella.

    Realizing, of course, the best the best solution is not the easiest way to
    do things, that may explain why sweeping the eggs under the table won't work
    in the long run.

    Best long term solution is to seriously fine, and put executives in jail
    for killing customers if they can't fix their own products.

    Alan


  5. #5
    Ranιe at Arabian Knits Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs

    In article <[email protected]>,
    zxcvbob <[email protected]> wrote:

    > ...recalled for salmonella, and the number is still growing. What a
    > waste! Why can't they encourage people to cook them unusually
    > thoroughly instead of throwing them away? They should be fine for
    > baking and for scrambled eggs, just don't eat them raw or cooked
    > with still-runny yolks.


    What amazes me is how unhealthy the chickens must be. To have that
    much salmonella in the oviduct, for the standard bleach solution
    cleaning on eggs that are sold in the stores not to have enough of an
    effect. However, we can just trust Agribusiness and the USDA to protect
    us, never mind trying to improve animal husbandry, living conditions or
    feed.

    Regards,
    Ranee @ Arabian Knits

    "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

    http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/

  6. #6
    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs


    "zxcvbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > ...recalled for salmonella, and the number is still growing. What a
    > waste! Why can't they encourage people to cook them unusually thoroughly
    > instead of throwing them away? They should be fine for baking and for
    > scrambled eggs, just don't eat them raw or cooked with still-runny yolks.
    >
    > Bob


    I wonder how many will actually be returned. IIRC, the starting date was in
    May. I doubt many people still have eggs from a few months ago.

    I wonder too, if the eggs will be sorted to cull the infected ones and use
    the good to make powdered eggs or the like.


  7. #7
    brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs

    On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 22:52:23 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"zxcvbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]..
    >> ...recalled for salmonella, and the number is still growing. What a
    >> waste! Why can't they encourage people to cook them unusually thoroughly
    >> instead of throwing them away? They should be fine for baking and for
    >> scrambled eggs, just don't eat them raw or cooked with still-runny yolks.
    >>
    >> Bob

    >
    >I wonder how many will actually be returned. IIRC, the starting date was in
    >May. I doubt many people still have eggs from a few months ago.
    >
    >I wonder too, if the eggs will be sorted to cull the infected ones and use
    >the good to make powdered eggs or the like.


    Those eggs will very likely be destroyed,,, chickens don't stop laying
    eggs, the supply won't diminish.

  8. #8
    duckstandard Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs



    brooklyn1 wrote:
    > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 22:52:23 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >"zxcvbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected]..
    > >> ...recalled for salmonella, and the number is still growing. What a
    > >> waste! Why can't they encourage people to cook them unusually thoroughly
    > >> instead of throwing them away? They should be fine for baking and for
    > >> scrambled eggs, just don't eat them raw or cooked with still-runny yolks.
    > >>
    > >> Bob

    > >
    > >I wonder how many will actually be returned. IIRC, the starting date was in
    > >May. I doubt many people still have eggs from a few months ago.
    > >
    > >I wonder too, if the eggs will be sorted to cull the infected ones and use
    > >the good to make powdered eggs or the like.

    >
    > Those eggs will very likely be destroyed,,, chickens don't stop laying
    > eggs, the supply won't diminish.




    Whatever the case, made breakfast for dinner like a day before the
    announcement and had one egg that had some slightly slimy egg white,
    which wasn't white, as in undercooked.

    And I really don't like re-cooking longer of what should have been
    done right in the first place.

    So I was going to give it to somebody else but thought, my laziness
    should not give somebody else a possible illness, so I had it myself.
    -
    I know how bad food illness can be.
    -
    I worked at a high volume pizza chain, well very very high. Biggest of
    the state.

    So anyway I used to work the landing area on the highest volume
    nights, at the end of the conveyor oven, to cut and package pizzas.

    I would take a pizza (before the rush) and send it through, to test
    the (probable) nights finished product, and adjust.

    Then I would put it under the landing table, to eat on it all night.
    (supposed to throw it away) <- waste

    Anyway the test pizza from the Saturday night the week before was down
    there, and I was thinking, how did this move from where I had it,
    anyway took a big bite. (To much action to look what I was eating.)
    -
    Eghhh, any way I considered going outside and try to voluntarily barf,
    but all the phone lines were lit up, the lobby was packed, and had
    pizzas coming out faster than I could package em, (pizza pizza ya
    know)

    So I didn't do what I should have, that was barfing.
    -
    So anyway felt kinda crappy the next morning, then in just minutes it
    was severe dizziness.

    Just the most horrid feeling.

    Seriously should have went to the hospital, but couldn't really do
    anything, maybe, possibly, dial 911 and drool.

    Luckily was able to sleep really heavily most of the first days,
    -
    Anyway didn't poo for a week so surely nothing was being digested.

    Bloating and seriously ****ed up tasting burp ups pretty much
    confirmed that.

    Each burp would 'slightly limit' hours upon hours of intense pain and
    would allow some sleep until the next time.
    -
    Should have just stuck my finger down my throat, 'at any given time.'
    -
    Anyway almost a week later I finally barfed up the worst foulest huge
    mass of stuff, for about 20 minutes.

    It hurt bad but we all know how that goes, moments of watery eyes and
    a 'whew' of relief..

    So anyway, woke up the next day with a mild headache most of the day
    but was doing 92% better.

    So then after all, the day after feeling better, it was a complete
    week later.

    Went back to work at the store and guess what was under there?

    The 'original pizza' and the 'new pizza' from the week before, still
    under there..
    -

    The End.

  9. #9
    Giusi Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs


    "zxcvbob" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio

    > ...recalled for salmonella, and the number is still growing. What a >
    > waste! Why can't they encourage people to cook them unusually thoroughly
    > instead of throwing them away? They should be fine for > baking and for
    > scrambled eggs, just don't eat them raw or cooked > with still-runny
    > yolks.


    They have known how to remove salmonella from the poultry population for
    more than a decade. Why not insist on that solution instead of mass
    exterminations and wasting tons of feed, electricity, water that go into
    producing that many eggs? They claim it's because egg would cost more, but
    it's only a little more and isn't it worth it? How many got sick this time?



  10. #10
    Bob Terwilliger Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs

    Ranee wrote:

    > What amazes me is how unhealthy the chickens must be. To have that
    > much salmonella in the oviduct, for the standard bleach solution
    > cleaning on eggs that are sold in the stores not to have enough of an
    > effect.


    Bleach only affects the outside of the egg. The salmonella is inside.

    Bob




  11. #11
    Alan S Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs

    On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:26:44 -0500, zxcvbob <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >...recalled for salmonella, and the number is still growing. What a
    >waste! Why can't they encourage people to cook them unusually
    >thoroughly instead of throwing them away? They should be fine for
    >baking and for scrambled eggs, just don't eat them raw or cooked
    >with still-runny yolks.
    >
    >Bob


    We rarely, if ever, have that problem here. But I never buy cage eggs
    anyway. Stick to free range for many reasons: animal health, human
    health, and not least - taste.

    Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
    d & e; metformin 1500mg
    --
    Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
    http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com (Privacy On Forums And The Web)
    http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (Buenos Aires, Argentina)

  12. #12
    The Cook Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs

    On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:26:44 -0500, zxcvbob <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >...recalled for salmonella, and the number is still growing. What a
    >waste! Why can't they encourage people to cook them unusually
    >thoroughly instead of throwing them away? They should be fine for
    >baking and for scrambled eggs, just don't eat them raw or cooked
    >with still-runny yolks.
    >
    >Bob


    Here is a pretty complete story. I copied it from my Yahoo news.

    A supplier in egg recall has history of violations
    AP

    By MARY CLARE JALONICK, Associated Press Writer Mary Clare Jalonick,
    Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 38 mins ago

    WASHINGTON – Two Iowa farms that together recalled more than half a
    billion potentially tainted eggs this month share close ties,
    including suppliers of chickens and feed.

    Both farms are linked to businessman Austin "Jack" DeCoster, who has
    been cited for numerous health, safety and employment violations over
    the years. DeCoster owns Wright County Egg, the original farm that
    recalled 380 million eggs Aug. 13 after they were linked to more than
    1,000 reported cases of salmonella poisoning.

    Another of his companies, Quality Egg, supplies young chickens and
    feed to both Wright County Egg and Hillandale Farms, the second farm
    that recalled another 170 million eggs a week later.

    Jewanna Porter, a spokeswoman for the egg industry, said the two
    companies share other suppliers as well, but she did not name them.

    The cause of the outbreaks is so far unknown, as Food and Drug
    Administration investigators are still on the ground at the farms
    trying to figure it out. The federal Centers for Disease Control has
    said the number of illnesses, estimated as high as 1,300, would likely
    grow.

    DeCoster is no stranger to controversy in his food and farm
    operations:

    • In 1997, DeCoster Egg Farms agreed to pay $2 million in fines to
    settle citations brought in 1996 for health and safety violations at
    DeCoster's farm in Turner, Maine. Then-Labor Secretary Robert Reich
    said conditions were "as dangerous and oppressive as any sweatshop."
    He cited unguarded machinery, electrical hazards, exposure to harmful
    bacteria and other unsanitary conditions.

    • In 2000, Iowa designated DeCoster a "habitual violator" of
    environmental regulations for problems that included hog manure runoff
    into waterways. The label made him subject to increased penalties and
    prohibited him from building new farms.

    • In 2002, the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
    announced a more than $1.5 million settlement of an employment
    discrimination lawsuit against DeCoster Farms on behalf of Mexican
    women who reported they were subjected to sexual harassment, including
    rape, abuse and retaliation by some supervisory workers at DeCoster's
    Wright County plants.

    • In 2007, 51 workers were arrested during an immigration raid at six
    DeCoster egg farms. The farm had been the subject of at least three
    previous raids.

    • In June 2010, Maine Contract Farming — the successor company to
    DeCoster Egg Farms — agreed in state court to pay $25,000 in penalties
    and to make a one-time payment of $100,000 to the Maine Department of
    Agriculture over animal cruelty allegations that were spurred by a
    hidden-camera investigation by an animal welfare organization.

    It is unclear what role DeCoster's company played in the current
    salmonella outbreak. The FDA investigation could take months, and
    sources of contamination are often difficult to find. The current
    recall goes back to April, and many of the eggs have already been
    consumed.

    Still, DeCoster's Wright County Egg is already facing at least two
    lawsuits related to the egg recall. One is from food distributor Dutch
    Farms, which says the company used unauthorized cartons to package and
    sell eggs under its brand without its knowledge.

    The other is from a person who said they became ill after eating
    tainted eggs in a salad at a restaurant in Kenosha, Wis.

    The CDC said investigations by 10 states since April have identified
    26 cases where more than one person became ill. Preliminary
    information showed that Wright was the supplier in at least 15 of
    those.

    Almost 2,000 illnesses from the strain of salmonella linked to both
    recalls were reported between May and July, nearly 1,300 more than
    usual, the CDC said. No deaths have been reported.

    The most common symptoms of salmonella are diarrhea, abdominal cramps
    and fever within eight hours to 72 hours of eating a contaminated
    product. The disease can be life-threatening, especially to those with
    weakened immune systems.

    ___

    Associated Press Writer Jeff Baenen in Minneapolis contributed to this
    report.
    --
    Susan N.

    "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
    48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
    Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

  13. #13
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs

    On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:26:44 -0500, zxcvbob wrote:

    > ...recalled for salmonella, and the number is still growing. What a
    > waste! Why can't they encourage people to cook them unusually
    > thoroughly instead of throwing them away? They should be fine for
    > baking and for scrambled eggs, just don't eat them raw or cooked
    > with still-runny yolks.


    Kinda like having sex with somebody who has AIDS as long as you use a
    rubber.

    -sw

  14. #14
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs

    On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 22:52:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

    > I wonder too, if the eggs will be sorted to cull the infected ones and use
    > the good to make powdered eggs or the like.


    I really doubt it would be economical to individually test $.07 eggs. And
    the returned eggs were most likely not stored properly and many have broken
    (leaking salmonella all over the non-salmonella eggs).

    -sw

  15. #15
    brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs

    On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:48:27 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
    <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote:

    >Ranee wrote:
    >
    >> What amazes me is how unhealthy the chickens must be. To have that
    >> much salmonella in the oviduct, for the standard bleach solution
    >> cleaning on eggs that are sold in the stores not to have enough of an
    >> effect.

    >
    >Bleach only affects the outside of the egg. The salmonella is inside.
    >
    >Idiot Bob
    >
    >


  16. #16
    brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs

    On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:41:00 -0500, The Cook <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:26:44 -0500, zxcvbob <[email protected]>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>...recalled for salmonella, and the number is still growing. What a
    >>waste! Why can't they encourage people to cook them unusually
    >>thoroughly instead of throwing them away? They should be fine for
    >>baking and for scrambled eggs, just don't eat them raw or cooked
    >>with still-runny yolks.
    >>
    >>Bob

    >
    >Here is a pretty complete story. I copied it from my Yahoo news.
    >
    >A supplier in egg recall has history of violations
    >AP
    >
    >By MARY CLARE JALONICK, Associated Press Writer Mary Clare Jalonick,
    >Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 38 mins ago
    >
    >WASHINGTON – Two Iowa farms that together recalled more than half a
    >billion potentially tainted eggs this month share close ties,
    >including suppliers of chickens and feed.
    >
    >Both farms are linked to businessman Austin "Jack" DeCoster, who has
    >been cited for numerous health, safety and employment violations over
    >the years. DeCoster owns Wright County Egg, the original farm that
    >recalled 380 million eggs Aug. 13 after they were linked to more than
    >1,000 reported cases of salmonella poisoning.
    >
    >Another of his companies, Quality Egg, supplies young chickens and
    >feed to both Wright County Egg and Hillandale Farms, the second farm
    >that recalled another 170 million eggs a week later.
    >
    >Jewanna Porter, a spokeswoman for the egg industry, said the two
    >companies share other suppliers as well, but she did not name them.
    >
    >
    >The cause of the outbreaks is so far unknown, as Food and Drug
    >Administration investigators are still on the ground at the farms
    >trying to figure it out.



    Posting this article is real helpful...

  17. #17
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs

    On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 22:52:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

    > "zxcvbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    >> ...recalled for salmonella, and the number is still growing. What a
    >> waste! Why can't they encourage people to cook them unusually thoroughly
    >> instead of throwing them away? They should be fine for baking and for
    >> scrambled eggs, just don't eat them raw or cooked with still-runny yolks.
    >>
    >> Bob

    >
    > I wonder how many will actually be returned. IIRC, the starting date was in
    > May. I doubt many people still have eggs from a few months ago.
    >
    > I wonder too, if the eggs will be sorted to cull the infected ones and use
    > the good to make powdered eggs or the like.


    no way. if someone got sick (or even pretended to get sick) from a product
    *knowingly* made from a batch of eggs that was recalled there'd be hell to
    pay. the return wouldn't be worth the risk.

    your pal,
    blake

  18. #18
    George Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs

    On 8/21/2010 10:41 PM, Ranιe at Arabian Knits wrote:
    > In article<[email protected]>,
    > zxcvbob<[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> ...recalled for salmonella, and the number is still growing. What a
    >> waste! Why can't they encourage people to cook them unusually
    >> thoroughly instead of throwing them away? They should be fine for
    >> baking and for scrambled eggs, just don't eat them raw or cooked
    >> with still-runny yolks.

    >
    > What amazes me is how unhealthy the chickens must be. To have that
    > much salmonella in the oviduct, for the standard bleach solution
    > cleaning on eggs that are sold in the stores not to have enough of an
    > effect. However, we can just trust Agribusiness and the USDA to protect
    > us, never mind trying to improve animal husbandry, living conditions or
    > feed.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Ranee @ Arabian Knits
    >
    > "She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13
    >
    > http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/


    And one of the problems is the "walmart effect" (cheap prices are all
    that matter not value). So many people have very unreasonable
    expectations about what things should cost. Twenty years ago a dozen of
    eggs was $1 and people still expect that same price now (neglecting how
    much that dollar has gone down in value). So producers cut costs and
    corners any way they can because so many demand cheap.

  19. #19
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs

    On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 23:27:41 -0700 (PDT), duckstandard
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Went back to work at the store and guess what was under there?
    >
    > The 'original pizza' and the 'new pizza' from the week before, still
    > under there..


    I guess your manager doesn't have very high standards for clean up and
    nobody inspects anything. Too bad you learned it the hard way.

    --

    Carrot cake counts as a serving of vegetables.

  20. #20
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Half a billion eggs

    On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:59:38 +0200, "Giusi" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > They have known how to remove salmonella from the poultry population for
    > more than a decade. Why not insist on that solution instead of mass
    > exterminations and wasting tons of feed, electricity, water that go into
    > producing that many eggs? They claim it's because egg would cost more, but
    > it's only a little more and isn't it worth it? How many got sick this time?


    Why wouldn't vaccinating be a better solution? Once and you're done
    vs. doing all the other stuff that has to be a lot more expensive in
    the long run.

    --

    Carrot cake counts as a serving of vegetables.

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32