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Thread: Good Italian deli in southern California?

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    Christine Dabney Guest

    Default Good Italian deli in southern California?

    Heya folks,

    As many of you know, I will be in the Bakersfield area for 3 months,
    starting late next week.

    I will be wanting to replenish my supply of good Parmesan cheese while
    I am there. I got my current stash at Corti Bros in Sacramento, and
    it is amazingly good. Hence my thinking that an Italian deli might be
    a good place to find some more.

    I will more than likely be driving down to the L.A. area pretty soon
    after I get to Bakersfield..like within a day or so. For one thing,
    the Santa Monica farmers market is there, and so is a Penzeys.

    Are there any good places in that area that would fit the bill? I
    will check Surfas too, when I go there, as I can't keep myself away
    from that place...

    Christine
    http://nightstirrings.blogspot.com

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    Giusi Guest

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    "Christine Dabney" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio

    > I will be wanting to replenish my supply of good Parmesan cheese while> I
    > am there.


    Vilco will back me up on this: there is no such thing as bad Parmigiano
    Reggiano, but all of that comes from Parma and not from any other country or
    state or even any other part of Italy. It comes different ages, but that's
    all the variety there is.

    If you want to gamble you can buy "parmesan" which can come from anywhere.
    I don't. You can buy Grana Padana and that's good too, but I haven't seen
    it (nor looked for it) in the US.



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    pavane Guest

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    "Giusi" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
    |
    | "Christine Dabney" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    |
    | > I will be wanting to replenish my supply of good Parmesan cheese while> I
    | > am there.
    |
    | Vilco will back me up on this: there is no such thing as bad Parmigiano
    | Reggiano, but all of that comes from Parma and not from any other country or
    | state or even any other part of Italy. It comes different ages, but that's
    | all the variety there is.

    I don't wish to quibble (well of course I do) but Parmigiano Reggiano comes
    from Modena, Parma, Reggio Emilia, Bologna and Mantova. There are distinct
    but minor taste differences; Parma tends towards a sharper, saltier taste than
    Reggio, which is more mellow, less full flavored. All are superb. Grana
    Padano is a very old cheese, made the same way and having a similar taste
    but usually a bit milder and it typically is sold at a younger age than Parm.

    You might look for a Whole Foods in the Bakersfield area, they bring in a lot
    of very good Parm and also Grana Padano:
    http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/stores/all/index.php

    pavane



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    Goomba Guest

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    Giusi wrote:

    > Vilco will back me up on this: there is no such thing as bad Parmigiano
    > Reggiano, but all of that comes from Parma and not from any other country or
    > state or even any other part of Italy. It comes different ages, but that's
    > all the variety there is.
    >
    > If you want to gamble you can buy "parmesan" which can come from anywhere.
    > I don't. You can buy Grana Padana and that's good too, but I haven't seen
    > it (nor looked for it) in the US.
    >

    I get Grana Padana from the commissary here in Georgia.

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    Giusi Guest

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    "pavane" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    >
    > "Giusi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > | Vilco will back me up on this: there is no such thing as bad Parmigiano
    > | Reggiano, but all of that comes from Parma and not from any other
    > country or> | state or even any other part of Italy. It comes different
    > ages, but that's
    > | all the variety there is.
    >
    > I don't wish to quibble (well of course I do) but Parmigiano Reggiano
    > comes> from Modena, Parma, Reggio Emilia, Bologna and Mantova. There are
    > distinct


    All the same area, all the cows eat much the same. I was illustrating
    buying real and not a copy, so yes, they make it in more than one town but
    it is all the same zone. It's so reliable it's unbelievable. I think Vilco
    likes 22 months of aging.



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    pavane Guest

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    "Giusi" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]..
    |
    | "pavane" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    | >
    | > "Giusi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    | > | Vilco will back me up on this: there is no such thing as bad Parmigiano
    | > | Reggiano, but all of that comes from Parma and not from any other
    | > country or> | state or even any other part of Italy. It comes different
    | > ages, but that's
    | > | all the variety there is.
    | >
    | > I don't wish to quibble (well of course I do) but Parmigiano Reggiano
    | > comes> from Modena, Parma, Reggio Emilia, Bologna and Mantova. There are
    | > distinct
    |
    | All the same area, all the cows eat much the same. I was illustrating
    | buying real and not a copy, so yes, they make it in more than one town but
    | it is all the same zone. It's so reliable it's unbelievable. I think Vilco
    | likes 22 months of aging.

    That's about right. Then there is the Vacche Rosse, made from (I believe) a
    closed herd of red colored cows. I think we sold it for 1.5 times the price
    of the regular parm, and had trouble keeping it in stock, it sold so well.

    pavane



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    Dimitri Guest

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    "Christine Dabney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > Heya folks,
    >
    > As many of you know, I will be in the Bakersfield area for 3 months,
    > starting late next week.
    >
    > I will be wanting to replenish my supply of good Parmesan cheese while
    > I am there. I got my current stash at Corti Bros in Sacramento, and
    > it is amazingly good. Hence my thinking that an Italian deli might be
    > a good place to find some more.
    >
    > I will more than likely be driving down to the L.A. area pretty soon
    > after I get to Bakersfield..like within a day or so. For one thing,
    > the Santa Monica farmers market is there, and so is a Penzeys.
    >
    > Are there any good places in that area that would fit the bill? I
    > will check Surfas too, when I go there, as I can't keep myself away
    > from that place...
    >
    > Christine
    > http://nightstirrings.blogspot.com




    Just go to Costco or Trader Joe's.

    Dimitri


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    Steve Pope Guest

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    I have not bought Parmesan at Corti brothers so I don't
    know how much better it is than other Parmesan Reggiano's.
    I would think any good cheese shop or upscale grocery
    in L.A. would have reasonably good Reggiano.

    I usually buy the stuff called "2 year export" or similar
    but I don't really know what this means. Specialty
    cheeserers will have Reggiano from specific farms. It's
    usually better, but not by a huge margin.

    Steve

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    Hollywood®Boy Guest

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    Christine Dabney wrote:
    : Heya folks,
    :
    : As many of you know, I will be in the Bakersfield area for 3 months,
    : starting late next week.
    :
    : I will be wanting to replenish my supply of good Parmesan cheese while
    : I am there. I got my current stash at Corti Bros in Sacramento, and
    : it is amazingly good. Hence my thinking that an Italian deli might be
    : a good place to find some more.
    :
    : I will more than likely be driving down to the L.A. area pretty soon
    : after I get to Bakersfield..like within a day or so. For one thing,
    : the Santa Monica farmers market is there, and so is a Penzeys.
    :
    : Are there any good places in that area that would fit the bill? I
    : will check Surfas too, when I go there, as I can't keep myself away
    : from that place...
    :
    : Christine
    : http://nightstirrings.blogspot.com

    Walk in here, and ask for what you are looking for:

    Zingo's Cafe
    3201 Buck Owens Blvd
    Bakersfield, ca 93308-6321
    Phone: (661) 321-0627

    It is Bakersfields longest operating Truck Stop Cafe. It is right off State
    Highway 99. Good luck.



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    Lew Hodgett Guest

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    "Christine Dabney" wrote:

    > Heya folks,
    >
    > As many of you know, I will be in the Bakersfield area for 3 months,
    > starting late next week.

    -------------------------------
    Check these people out.

    http://store.claros.com/

    Lots of imported stuff.

    Pick a location close to you.

    Lew



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    Don Martinich Guest

    Default Re: Good Italian deli in southern California?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Christine Dabney <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Heya folks,
    >
    > As many of you know, I will be in the Bakersfield area for 3 months,
    > starting late next week.
    >
    > I will be wanting to replenish my supply of good Parmesan cheese while
    > I am there. I got my current stash at Corti Bros in Sacramento, and
    > it is amazingly good. Hence my thinking that an Italian deli might be
    > a good place to find some more.
    >
    > I will more than likely be driving down to the L.A. area pretty soon
    > after I get to Bakersfield..like within a day or so. For one thing,
    > the Santa Monica farmers market is there, and so is a Penzeys.
    >
    > Are there any good places in that area that would fit the bill? I
    > will check Surfas too, when I go there, as I can't keep myself away
    > from that place...
    >
    > Christine
    > http://nightstirrings.blogspot.com


    Sorry, but I can't help you unless you get as far south as Orange
    County. I'm talking about Claro's Italian Market in Tustin located at
    1095 E Main St. It's not a full size market like Corti's but it has all
    the essentials. Good luck!

    D.M.

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    brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Good Italian deli in southern California?

    On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 20:50:55 +0200, "Giusi" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"Christine Dabney" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    >
    >> I will be wanting to replenish my supply of good Parmesan cheese while> I
    >> am there.

    >
    >Vilco will back me up on this: there is no such thing as bad Parmigiano
    >Reggiano,


    Vilco? Are you pulling the guinea card AGAIN.

    Nonsense. Cheese spoils. Many (actually most) venders haven't a clue
    about how to care for cheese. Parmigiano Reggiano is first and
    foremost a table cheese, when it's grated it's because it was
    permitted to spoil, and when the cheese makers see that they cry. If
    Parmigiano Reggiano is fit for grating don't buy it unless it's being
    sold for half price, or instead buy something labled Parmesan

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