Thread: Garbage Can Smoker and some Ribs

On 5/22/2010 8:58 PM, Joe wrote:
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> Cheap, but it works.
>
>


I've been doing that for 20 years. Still have the original garbage can
(I thought it would have rusted out by now)

Bob

In article <hta246$6qm$[email protected]>, " Joe" <[email protected]>
wrote:

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> Cheap, but it works.

Fascinating...
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Joe wrote:
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> Cheap, but it works.
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>
>
There are some health issues associated with heating galvanized steel.
Might be worth looking into that before you eat the food.

On Sat, 22 May 2010 21:58:25 -0400, Joe wrote:

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> Cheap, but it works.

Never use a galvanized garbage can (which is what that is) to smoke
food.

Spend the $50 on an El Cheapo Brinkman Gourmet (ECBG) which costs
the same and very little assembly required. And best of all, it's
not poisonous and will last 10x as long.

-sw

On Sat, 22 May 2010 22:29:16 -0500, Sqwertz <[email protected]>
wrote:

>> Cheap, but it works.
> Never use a galvanized garbage can (which is what that is) to smoke
> food.
> Spend the $50 on an El Cheapo Brinkman Gourmet (ECBG) which costs
> the same and very little assembly required. And best of all, it's
> not poisonous and will last 10x as long.

I've got one of them Brinkmanns. And even now after I got my big 'ol cast
iron pit I use the Brinkmann now and then being surprised how capable it
is of great cookin'.

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Wrong, Squirts.
If you will notice there is no contact with the fire to the galvanize, it
needs a high temp before the galvanize burns and offgasses.
There have been a lot of pit covered with roofing tin. As long as it
doesn't burn the coating it is fine.
I have built several garbage can smokers in my 70 years and had no
problem.
The problem is with folks with not enough knowledge and who may have read
something on the internet.
Burning galvanize can be hazardous to your health
Big Jim
"Sqwertz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 22 May 2010 21:58:25 -0400, Joe wrote:
>
>> http://www.eggheadforum.com/index.ph...893716&catid=1
>>
>> Cheap, but it works.
>
> Never use a galvanized garbage can (which is what that is) to smoke
> food.
>
> Spend the $50 on an El Cheapo Brinkman Gourmet (ECBG) which costs
> the same and very little assembly required. And best of all, it's
> not poisonous and will last 10x as long.
>
> -sw

On Sat, 22 May 2010 21:58:25 -0400, Joe wrote:

> http://www.eggheadforum.com/index.php?
option=com_simpleboard&func=view&id=893716&catid=1
>
> Cheap, but it works.

Been there done that and also same thing with a 55 gallon drum. Works
great and fun to make.



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On Sun, 23 May 2010 08:40:04 -0400, Big Jim wrote:

> Wrong, Squirts.
> If you will notice there is no contact with the fire to the galvanize,
> it needs a high temp before the galvanize burns and off gasses.
snip
> Big Jim

snip

BJ
Exactly! zinc is not an issue as long as above is complied with.

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Joe <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://www.eggheadforum.com/index.ph...893716&catid=1
>
> Cheap, but it works.

What's the gauge in the fourth photo atop the welder's glove?

The Ranger

On Sun, 23 May 2010 07:40:31 -0700, The Ranger wrote:

> Joe <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:hta246$6qm$[email protected]..
>> http://www.eggheadforum.com/index.php?
option=com_simpleboard&func=view&id=893716&catid=1
>>
>> Cheap, but it works.
>
> What's the gauge in the fourth photo atop the welder's glove?
>
> The Ranger

looks like an automatic temperature controller, stoker or bbq guru.



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Larry wrote:
> Smoker by "Joe Jerk" wrote:
>>
>> http://www.eggheadforum.com/index.ph...893716&catid=1
>>
>> Cheap, but it works.
>>
>>
>>
>There are some health issues associated with heating galvanized steel.
>Might be worth looking into that before you eat the food.

Absolutely...

On Sun, 23 May 2010 08:40:04 -0400, Big Jim wrote:

> Wrong, Squirts.
> If you will notice there is no contact with the fire to the galvanize, it
> needs a high temp before the galvanize burns and offgasses.
> There have been a lot of pit covered with roofing tin. As long as it
> doesn't burn the coating it is fine.
> I have built several garbage can smokers in my 70 years and had no
> problem.
> The problem is with folks with not enough knowledge and who may have read
> something on the internet.
> Burning galvanize can be hazardous to your health
> Big Jim

Well, Jim, every one of the AFB regulars has mentioned that
galvanized is bad, bad, bad...

<http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=group%3Aalt.food.barbecue+galvanized&btnG=Sear ch&sitesearch=>

But you've never said a peep until now.

So I'll not take my chances and if I ever do feel the need to build
a trash can smoker, will contact a metallurgist before I do. Last
thing I need is an errant chunk of glowing wood coming into contact
with the smoker and burning the zinc coating (but that would never
happen, right?)

-sw

On Sun, 23 May 2010 12:17:00 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Sun, 23 May 2010 08:40:04 -0400, Big Jim wrote:
>
>> Wrong, Squirts.
>> If you will notice there is no contact with the fire to the galvanize, it
>> needs a high temp before the galvanize burns and offgasses.
>> There have been a lot of pit covered with roofing tin. As long as it
>> doesn't burn the coating it is fine.
>> I have built several garbage can smokers in my 70 years and had no
>> problem.
>> The problem is with folks with not enough knowledge and who may have read
>> something on the internet.
>> Burning galvanize can be hazardous to your health
>> Big Jim
>
> Well, Jim, every one of the AFB regulars has mentioned that
> galvanized is bad, bad, bad...
>
> <http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=group%3Aalt.food.barbecue+galvanized&btnG=Sear ch&sitesearch=>
>
> But you've never said a peep until now.
>
> So I'll not take my chances and if I ever do feel the need to build
> a trash can smoker, will contact a metallurgist before I do. Last
> thing I need is an errant chunk of glowing wood coming into contact
> with the smoker and burning the zinc coating (but that would never
> happen, right?)
>
> -sw

i thought all that there smoked meat was gonna give you cancer anyway.

your pal,
blake

On 2010-05-23, The Ranger <[email protected]> wrote:
> Joe <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:hta246$6qm$[email protected]..
>> http://www.eggheadforum.com/index.ph...893716&catid=1
>>
>> Cheap, but it works.
>
> What's the gauge in the fourth photo atop the welder's glove?

A gauge to measure the number of years of life lost due to heating
galvanized steel?

nb

blake murphy wrote:
>
> i thought all that there smoked meat was gonna give you cancer anyway.

The risk from smoked meats is dwarfed by the risk
from nitrate- and nitrite-cured meats. Curing salts
are the enemy, not so much smoke. Also, the polyamines
from grilling are a small risk compared to cured meats.

On 5/23/2010 2:40 AM, Big Jim wrote:
> Wrong, Squirts.
> If you will notice there is no contact with the fire to the galvanize, it
> needs a high temp before the galvanize burns and offgasses.
> There have been a lot of pit covered with roofing tin. As long as it
> doesn't burn the coating it is fine.
> I have built several garbage can smokers in my 70 years and had no
> problem.

I have smoked stuff in a garbage can using a can laid on it's side and
an hibachi. I thought I was doing something new. Damn! :-)

> The problem is with folks with not enough knowledge and who may have read
> something on the internet.
> Burning galvanize can be hazardous to your health
> Big Jim
> "Sqwertz"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:n12xcahapv9w$.[email protected]..
>> On Sat, 22 May 2010 21:58:25 -0400, Joe wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.eggheadforum.com/index.ph...893716&catid=1
>>>
>>> Cheap, but it works.
>>
>> Never use a galvanized garbage can (which is what that is) to smoke
>> food.
>>
>> Spend the $50 on an El Cheapo Brinkman Gourmet (ECBG) which costs
>> the same and very little assembly required. And best of all, it's
>> not poisonous and will last 10x as long.
>>
>> -sw
>
>

On Sun, 23 May 2010 14:50:29 -0400, blake murphy wrote:

> i thought all that there smoked meat was gonna give you cancer anyway.

We don't care about long term effects. But the zinc fumes are
pretty immediate and can ruin a good meal.

-sw

On Sun, 23 May 2010 12:17:00 -0500, Sqwertz <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 May 2010 08:40:04 -0400, Big Jim wrote:
>
>> Wrong, Squirts.
>> If you will notice there is no contact with the fire to the galvanize, it
>> needs a high temp before the galvanize burns and offgasses.
>> There have been a lot of pit covered with roofing tin. As long as it
>> doesn't burn the coating it is fine.
>> I have built several garbage can smokers in my 70 years and had no
>> problem.
>> The problem is with folks with not enough knowledge and who may have read
>> something on the internet.
>> Burning galvanize can be hazardous to your health
>> Big Jim
>
>Well, Jim, every one of the AFB regulars has mentioned that
>galvanized is bad, bad, bad...
>
><http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=group%3Aalt.food.barbecue+galvanized&btnG=Sear ch&sitesearch=>
>
>But you've never said a peep until now.
>
>So I'll not take my chances and if I ever do feel the need to build
>a trash can smoker, will contact a metallurgist before I do. Last
>thing I need is an errant chunk of glowing wood coming into contact
>with the smoker and burning the zinc coating (but that would never
>happen, right?)
>
>-sw

Not only are the fumes from zinc electroplate hazardous so is mere
handling it... and a lot of galvanize also contains cadmium, making it
far more dangerous. Everytime I see tradesmen holding cadmium plated
sheet metal screws in their mouth I cringe. A lot of people install
galvanived chain link fence and their rugrats climb on it all day
every day, and then constantly put their fingers in their mouth. By
the time they're eight years old it's discovered they're learning
disabled, and later find a plethora of diseases. Zoos have known for
years not to use gavanized. Folks complain about the products made in
China but the products made in the US are far worse.

On Sun, 23 May 2010 16:48:10 -0400, brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Sun, 23 May 2010 12:17:00 -0500, Sqwertz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 23 May 2010 08:40:04 -0400, Big Jim wrote:
>>
>>> Wrong, Squirts.
>>> If you will notice there is no contact with the fire to the
>snip

the temperature at which zinc melts is 787.15F according to wikipedia,
hence as Big Jim stated as long as the coals don't touch the zinc there
couldn't be a danger.



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