Thread: Food Crime on the rise in UK

Mark Thorson <[email protected]> writes:

> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398

What's the old bag moaning about? It's quite simple : you can only eat
things purchased IN the cafe. What's so difficult to understand?

"Mark Thorson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398

Smart people gained a cookie, & lost a customer and will now have to repair
their image.

DUH....

Dimitri

On 4/12/2010 3:57 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398

Now, in the US the tax people are not above doing just what she did and
then fining the store for not enforcing the tax law. Are the UK tax
people equally slimy?

Mark Thorson wrote:
> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398

Rather than murdering fools wouldn't the right solution be grow it

locally at a competitive cost and supply work to locals ?

On Apr 12, 1:26*pm, Bogbrush <barryskan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> writes:
> > Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>
> >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>
> What's the old bag moaning about? It's quite simple : you can only eat
> things purchased IN the cafe. What's so difficult to understand?

She's a common criminal and should spend some time in the slammer!

On Apr 12, 12:57*pm, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398

These cafe owners are idiots. I had people bring in their brown bag
lunches because they were eating with someone who
had popped into their office and said 'let's have lunch'. They
brought in their lunch and the other person bought theirs from me.
The person who brown bagged it would always buy a drink and a dessert
and we would take their brown bag lunch to the kitchen
and plate it properly for them.

You cannot build a good will image in your community by actions as
stupid as these.

They will lose customers....as well they should.

ImStillMags wrote:
> On Apr 12, 12:57 pm, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>
> These cafe owners are idiots. I had people bring in their brown bag
> lunches because they were eating with someone who
> had popped into their office and said 'let's have lunch'. They
> brought in their lunch and the other person bought theirs from me.
> The person who brown bagged it would always buy a drink and a dessert
> and we would take their brown bag lunch to the kitchen
> and plate it properly for them.
>
> You cannot build a good will image in your community by actions as
> stupid as these.
>
> They will lose customers....as well they should.

Most restaurants don't mind losing customers when they are taking up
space and not buying their food there. They aren't really customers, so
losing them is not a problem.

On 13/04/10 10:59, Dave Smith wrote:
> ImStillMags wrote:
>> On Apr 12, 12:57 pm, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
>>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>>>
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>>
>> These cafe owners are idiots. I had people bring in their brown bag
>> lunches because they were eating with someone who
>> had popped into their office and said 'let's have lunch'. They
>> brought in their lunch and the other person bought theirs from me.
>> The person who brown bagged it would always buy a drink and a dessert
>> and we would take their brown bag lunch to the kitchen
>> and plate it properly for them.
>>
>> You cannot build a good will image in your community by actions as
>> stupid as these.
>>
>> They will lose customers....as well they should.
>
> Most restaurants don't mind losing customers when they are taking up
> space and not buying their food there. They aren't really customers, so
> losing them is not a problem.

Simple. "Customers must purchase food". The old bag hadn't, but her
daughter had - £20 worth, apparently.

In article <TbSwn.19043$[email protected]>,
Benji Z-Man <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 13/04/10 10:59, Dave Smith wrote:
> > ImStillMags wrote:
> >> On Apr 12, 12:57 pm, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
> >>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
> >>
> >> These cafe owners are idiots. I had people bring in their brown bag
> >> lunches because they were eating with someone who
> >> had popped into their office and said 'let's have lunch'. They
> >> brought in their lunch and the other person bought theirs from me.
> >> The person who brown bagged it would always buy a drink and a dessert
> >> and we would take their brown bag lunch to the kitchen
> >> and plate it properly for them.
> >>
> >> You cannot build a good will image in your community by actions as
> >> stupid as these.
> >>
> >> They will lose customers....as well they should.
> >
> > Most restaurants don't mind losing customers when they are taking up
> > space and not buying their food there. They aren't really customers, so
> > losing them is not a problem.
>
> Simple. "Customers must purchase food". The old bag hadn't, but her
> daughter had - £20 worth, apparently.

Read the article again. I don't know how it works in Australia, but the
article said the VAT tax is different depending on whether a cookie is
purchased in the bakery or the restaurant.

It's even worse in the US, as these taxes are sales taxes, and are
assessed (or not) by the 50 states. The rules are all different, and if
you aren't confused enough, the counties within the states can add on
additional taxes.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email protected]

On 13/04/10 14:51, Dan Abel wrote:
> In article<TbSwn.19043$[email protected]>,
> Benji Z-Man<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 13/04/10 10:59, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> ImStillMags wrote:
>>>> On Apr 12, 12:57 pm, Mark Thorson<nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>>>>
>>>> These cafe owners are idiots. I had people bring in their brown bag
>>>> lunches because they were eating with someone who
>>>> had popped into their office and said 'let's have lunch'. They
>>>> brought in their lunch and the other person bought theirs from me.
>>>> The person who brown bagged it would always buy a drink and a dessert
>>>> and we would take their brown bag lunch to the kitchen
>>>> and plate it properly for them.
>>>>
>>>> You cannot build a good will image in your community by actions as
>>>> stupid as these.
>>>>
>>>> They will lose customers....as well they should.
>>>
>>> Most restaurants don't mind losing customers when they are taking up
>>> space and not buying their food there. They aren't really customers, so
>>> losing them is not a problem.
>>
>> Simple. "Customers must purchase food". The old bag hadn't, but her
>> daughter had - £20 worth, apparently.
>
> Read the article again. I don't know how it works in Australia, but the
> article said the VAT tax is different depending on whether a cookie is
> purchased in the bakery or the restaurant.
>
> It's even worse in the US, as these taxes are sales taxes, and are
> assessed (or not) by the 50 states. The rules are all different, and if
> you aren't confused enough, the counties within the states can add on
> additional taxes.
>

Yeah, no here in Oz it's pretty much normal, so long as the food doesn't
seem to put the establishment at risk of OH&S violations.

And you're right, that does sound confusing >_>

On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:02:23 -0400, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 4/12/2010 3:57 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>
>Now, in the US the tax people are not above doing just what she did and
>then fining the store for not enforcing the tax law. Are the UK tax
>people equally slimy?

What ******y UK courage... they assaulted an 86 year old woman. She
shoulda kung food their cookies with her cane... at 86 I'da made those
UK pansy douchebags sopranos and given their fruitcake butts a good
bamboo ****.

Benji Z-Man wrote:

> Simple. "Customers must purchase food". The old bag hadn't, but her
> daughter had - £20 worth, apparently.

Which isn't all that much to spend when divvied up between the four of
them in the family. But I can understand how it was forbidden, because
tax (VAT) laws are in place. It doesn't always make common sense, but it
exists.

brooklyn1 wrote:

> What ******y UK courage... they assaulted an 86 year old woman. She
> shoulda kung food their cookies with her cane... at 86 I'da made those
> UK pansy douchebags sopranos and given their fruitcake butts a good
> bamboo ****.

Sheldon, I see nothing written to suggest she was assaulted. She was
verbally warned about the rules. End of story.

The message <[email protected]>
from Dan Abel <[email protected]> contains these words:

> Read the article again. I don't know how it works in Australia, but the
> article said the VAT tax is different depending on whether a cookie is
> purchased in the bakery or the restaurant.

In the UK there's no VAT on food bought direct from stores; but there
is VAT on food eaten in restaurants .


Janet

The message <[email protected]>
from "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> contains these words:

> On 4/12/2010 3:57 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> > Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
> >
> > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398

The Daily Mail is a tabloid infamous for publishing imaginary
grievances under ridiculously hyped headlines.

> Now, in the US the tax people are not above doing just what she did and
> then fining the store for not enforcing the tax law. Are the UK tax
> people equally slimy?

In the UK, standard practise in food outlets, is that they don't permit
the consumption
of customers own food brought in from any other source whatever. That
is to comply with food hygiene regulations, and playing safe with legal
liability for customers health and safety.
If caught in breach of hygiene regulations they could be fined, or
worst scenario, closed down pending inquiries.

Evading VAT liability is also an offence.

Janet UK

The message <[email protected]>
from brooklyn1 <[email protected]> contains these words:

> On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:02:23 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> <[email protected]> wrote:

> >On 4/12/2010 3:57 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> >> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
> >>
> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
> >
> >Now, in the US the tax people are not above doing just what she did and
> >then fining the store for not enforcing the tax law. Are the UK tax
> >people equally slimy?

> What ******y UK courage... they assaulted an 86 year old woman.

Nobody touched her. The police were not informed, no charges were
brought, she was not brought to justice and is not a criminal.
Its typical DM hot air hype.

Janet

On 14/04/10 02:25, Janet Baraclough wrote:
> Nobody touched her. The police were not informed, no charges were
> brought, she was not brought to justice and is not a criminal.
> Its typical DM hot air hype.
>
> Janet
>

Heh. And yet it's all over our national media here in Oz...

On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 18:02:23 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:

> On 4/12/2010 3:57 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>
> Now, in the US the tax people are not above doing just what she did and
> then fining the store for not enforcing the tax law. Are the UK tax
> people equally slimy?

what the hell are you talking about?

blake

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:28:33 +1000, atec7 7 wrote:

> atec7 7 > wrote:
>> Mark Thorson wrote:
>>> Unrepentant criminal complains about harsh justice.
>>>
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265398
>>
>> Rather than murdering fools wouldn't the right solution be grow it
>>
>> locally at a competitive cost and supply work to locals ?
> Oops replied to wrong thread

sampling a little something locally grown?

your pal,
blake