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  1. #81
    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:10:50 -0700 (PDT), merryb <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >On Oct 13, 1:33*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
    >> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:26:04 -0700 (PDT), merryb <msg...@juno.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
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    >> >On Oct 11, 5:40 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
    >> >> "merryb" <msg...@juno.com> wrote in message

    >>
    >> >>news:[email protected]...
    >> >> On Oct 11, 4:12 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:

    >>
    >> >> > merryb wrote:
    >> >> > > On Oct 9, 10:06 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
    >> >> > >> We've been buying the single serve cups of hummus there for several
    >> >> > >> years. I can't remember what the brand was but when we first bought
    >> >> > >> it, it was a mixed pack. Half garlic and half regular. Daughter and
    >> >> > >> I don't like the garlic kind but husband did. So it was fine. Then
    >> >> > >> husband moved away and at the same time they started selling that
    >> >> > >> same kind but only the regular. Great!

    >>
    >> >> > >> Then they switched to some other brand that was even better. Loved
    >> >> > >> the stuff!

    >>
    >> >> > >> But now? Sabra. Eek! I couldn't even finish one cup tonight. What's
    >> >> > >> with that stuff? Is it the soybean oil giving it the off flavor?
    >> >> > >> Soybean oil is the reason I hadn't bought any in the past. Because I
    >> >> > >> don't think it belongs in there. I only bought it because husband
    >> >> > >> was complaining that there was no hummus. He must have had it before
    >> >> > >> because he called it crap and refused to eat it.

    >>
    >> >> > >> My mom made hummus from scratch once and hers had this same off
    >> >> > >> flavor. I am pretty sure that she didn't put any soybean oil in hers
    >> >> > >> though. Maybe bad tahini? I don't know.

    >>
    >> >> > > Why don't you just make your own to your liking? I'm sure there are a
    >> >> > > number of reasons why you don't...

    >>
    >> >> > Because I can't make it in individual cups? Yeah, I could put it in a
    >> >> > container. And wouldn't I need a food processor for that? I got rid of
    >> >> > mine and don't intend to get another. I can get plenty of other hummus
    >> >> > that
    >> >> > is good. I just can't get any in individual cups, AFAIK and I don't want
    >> >> > to
    >> >> > have to lug a container back home. I had to grab something quickly to eat
    >> >> > at the dance studio. So that's what I did.

    >>
    >> >> But you can find really small rubbermaid-type containers and pack it
    >> >> in those. You can even find them at the dollar stores. And then you
    >> >> can make it with whatever or no oil you want...And you can go to
    >> >> Goodwill and get a little processor, or even Target. Ok, your turn!

    >>
    >> >> Yeah. I have them. As I said, I didn't want to lug a container back home.
    >> >> And I don't *want* a food processor. I have a small kitchen and no place to
    >> >> put it. Oh and I don't want to make hummus. I like to cook. I don't much
    >> >> like to just whiz stuff up in a food processor.

    >>
    >> >At the recent food show here in SEA, Cash & Carry had a booth, and my
    >> >sis had her badge scanned. I am now getting their "hot sheet" ads here
    >> >at home. I see they have the 2 oz Solo cups for 2.85- this is for 250
    >> >of them. The lids are 1.25 for 100, so this way you can just toss them
    >> >guilt free. I don't know how much hummus you eat at a time, but even
    >> >if you eat more than 2 oz, you can take a couple with you and toss
    >> >when empty.

    >>
    >> Plastic food containers are reusable. *When you discover a size you
    >> like save a stack and run them through your dishwasher. *Yogurt and
    >> cottage cheese tubs can be used more than fifty times.

    >
    >Yes, but these were disposable ones. As we can see, no matter what,
    >all Jules wants to do is bitch & moan.


    Julie never learned that everything is disposable but many things
    don't have to be disposed of until all used up. As long as these
    plastic containers don't leak they are not used up.

  2. #82
    merryb Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    On Oct 13, 5:16*pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
    > On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:10:50 -0700 (PDT), merryb <msg...@juno.com>
    > wrote:
    >
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    > >On Oct 13, 1:33 pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
    > >> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:26:04 -0700 (PDT), merryb <msg...@juno.com>
    > >> wrote:

    >
    > >> >On Oct 11, 5:40 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
    > >> >> "merryb" <msg...@juno.com> wrote in message

    >
    > >> >>news:[email protected]...
    > >> >> On Oct 11, 4:12 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:

    >
    > >> >> > merryb wrote:
    > >> >> > > On Oct 9, 10:06 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
    > >> >> > >> We've been buying the single serve cups of hummus there for several
    > >> >> > >> years. I can't remember what the brand was but when we first bought
    > >> >> > >> it, it was a mixed pack. Half garlic and half regular. Daughter and
    > >> >> > >> I don't like the garlic kind but husband did. So it was fine. Then
    > >> >> > >> husband moved away and at the same time they started selling that
    > >> >> > >> same kind but only the regular. Great!

    >
    > >> >> > >> Then they switched to some other brand that was even better. Loved
    > >> >> > >> the stuff!

    >
    > >> >> > >> But now? Sabra. Eek! I couldn't even finish one cup tonight. What's
    > >> >> > >> with that stuff? Is it the soybean oil giving it the off flavor?
    > >> >> > >> Soybean oil is the reason I hadn't bought any in the past. Because I
    > >> >> > >> don't think it belongs in there. I only bought it because husband
    > >> >> > >> was complaining that there was no hummus. He must have had it before
    > >> >> > >> because he called it crap and refused to eat it.

    >
    > >> >> > >> My mom made hummus from scratch once and hers had this same off
    > >> >> > >> flavor. I am pretty sure that she didn't put any soybean oil in hers
    > >> >> > >> though. Maybe bad tahini? I don't know.

    >
    > >> >> > > Why don't you just make your own to your liking? I'm sure thereare a
    > >> >> > > number of reasons why you don't...

    >
    > >> >> > Because I can't make it in individual cups? Yeah, I could put it in a
    > >> >> > container. And wouldn't I need a food processor for that? I got rid of
    > >> >> > mine and don't intend to get another. I can get plenty of other hummus
    > >> >> > that
    > >> >> > is good. I just can't get any in individual cups, AFAIK and I don't want
    > >> >> > to
    > >> >> > have to lug a container back home. I had to grab something quickly to eat
    > >> >> > at the dance studio. So that's what I did.

    >
    > >> >> But you can find really small rubbermaid-type containers and pack it
    > >> >> in those. You can even find them at the dollar stores. And then you
    > >> >> can make it with whatever or no oil you want...And you can go to
    > >> >> Goodwill and get a little processor, or even Target. Ok, your turn!

    >
    > >> >> Yeah. I have them. As I said, I didn't want to lug a container backhome.
    > >> >> And I don't *want* a food processor. I have a small kitchen and no place to
    > >> >> put it. Oh and I don't want to make hummus. I like to cook. I don'tmuch
    > >> >> like to just whiz stuff up in a food processor.

    >
    > >> >At the recent food show here in SEA, Cash & Carry had a booth, and my
    > >> >sis had her badge scanned. I am now getting their "hot sheet" ads here
    > >> >at home. I see they have the 2 oz Solo cups for 2.85- this is for 250
    > >> >of them. The lids are 1.25 for 100, so this way you can just toss them
    > >> >guilt free. I don't know how much hummus you eat at a time, but even
    > >> >if you eat more than 2 oz, you can take a couple with you and toss
    > >> >when empty.

    >
    > >> Plastic food containers are reusable. When you discover a size you
    > >> like save a stack and run them through your dishwasher. Yogurt and
    > >> cottage cheese tubs can be used more than fifty times.

    >
    > >Yes, but these were disposable ones. As we can see, no matter what,
    > >all Jules wants to do is bitch & moan.

    >
    > Julie never learned that everything is disposable but many things
    > don't have to be disposed of until all used up. *As long as these
    > plastic containers don't leak they are not used up.


    Very true- I was trying to help with the "lugging " issue, so for
    about a penny per use, easy to toss with no guilt. But since she has
    no desire to even try to make her own, it's moot.

  3. #83
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 12:53:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > "Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    > > sf <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>"Julie Bove" wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> It wasn't in the closet. My fridge got too cold.
    > >>
    > >>I have a problem with vegetables at the bottom of my vegetable bins
    > >>freezing too. I solved the problem by storing bags of nuts, shredded
    > >>coconut, bulk herbs etc on the bottom and placing the vegetables on
    > >>top. Not the perfect solution, but it works for me.

    > >
    > > That you can't adjust the temperature for different fridge locations
    > > it must be a forty year old unit you picked up at the Salvation
    > > Army thrift for like $20... you must live in a hovel... or you're just
    > > too friggin' stupid to comprehend the owner's manual.

    >
    > My fridge is only a few years old. But I have to turn it to the coldest
    > setting during the summer. Probably time to adjust it again now.
    >

    He wasn't talking to you, Julie... he was talking to me. Do I care
    what he thinks or says? No. It says nothing about me and everything
    about him.

    --
    I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

  4. #84
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    Brooklyn1 wrote:
    > On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:26:04 -0700 (PDT), merryb <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> On Oct 11, 5:40 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
    >>> "merryb" <msg...@juno.com> wrote in message
    >>>
    >>> news:[email protected]...
    >>> On Oct 11, 4:12 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> merryb wrote:
    >>>>> On Oct 9, 10:06 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
    >>>>>> We've been buying the single serve cups of hummus there for
    >>>>>> several years. I can't remember what the brand was but when we
    >>>>>> first bought it, it was a mixed pack. Half garlic and half
    >>>>>> regular. Daughter and I don't like the garlic kind but husband
    >>>>>> did. So it was fine. Then husband moved away and at the same
    >>>>>> time they started selling that same kind but only the regular.
    >>>>>> Great!
    >>>
    >>>>>> Then they switched to some other brand that was even better.
    >>>>>> Loved the stuff!
    >>>
    >>>>>> But now? Sabra. Eek! I couldn't even finish one cup tonight.
    >>>>>> What's with that stuff? Is it the soybean oil giving it the off
    >>>>>> flavor? Soybean oil is the reason I hadn't bought any in the
    >>>>>> past. Because I don't think it belongs in there. I only bought
    >>>>>> it because husband was complaining that there was no hummus. He
    >>>>>> must have had it before because he called it crap and refused to
    >>>>>> eat it.
    >>>
    >>>>>> My mom made hummus from scratch once and hers had this same off
    >>>>>> flavor. I am pretty sure that she didn't put any soybean oil in
    >>>>>> hers though. Maybe bad tahini? I don't know.
    >>>
    >>>>> Why don't you just make your own to your liking? I'm sure there
    >>>>> are a number of reasons why you don't...
    >>>
    >>>> Because I can't make it in individual cups? Yeah, I could put it
    >>>> in a container. And wouldn't I need a food processor for that? I
    >>>> got rid of mine and don't intend to get another. I can get plenty
    >>>> of other hummus that
    >>>> is good. I just can't get any in individual cups, AFAIK and I
    >>>> don't want to
    >>>> have to lug a container back home. I had to grab something quickly
    >>>> to eat at the dance studio. So that's what I did.
    >>>
    >>> But you can find really small rubbermaid-type containers and pack it
    >>> in those. You can even find them at the dollar stores. And then you
    >>> can make it with whatever or no oil you want...And you can go to
    >>> Goodwill and get a little processor, or even Target. Ok, your turn!
    >>>
    >>> Yeah. I have them. As I said, I didn't want to lug a container back
    >>> home. And I don't *want* a food processor. I have a small kitchen
    >>> and no place to put it. Oh and I don't want to make hummus. I like
    >>> to cook. I don't much like to just whiz stuff up in a food
    >>> processor.

    >>
    >> At the recent food show here in SEA, Cash & Carry had a booth, and my
    >> sis had her badge scanned. I am now getting their "hot sheet" ads
    >> here at home. I see they have the 2 oz Solo cups for 2.85- this is
    >> for 250 of them. The lids are 1.25 for 100, so this way you can just
    >> toss them guilt free. I don't know how much hummus you eat at a
    >> time, but even if you eat more than 2 oz, you can take a couple with
    >> you and toss when empty.

    >
    > Plastic food containers are reusable. When you discover a size you
    > like save a stack and run them through your dishwasher. Yogurt and
    > cottage cheese tubs can be used more than fifty times.


    Yeah. I know that. I have some containers. I don't like toting them back
    home and cleaning them. Nor do I want to make hummus!



  5. #85
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    merryb wrote:
    > On Oct 13, 1:33 pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
    >> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:26:04 -0700 (PDT), merryb <msg...@juno.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> On Oct 11, 5:40 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
    >>>> "merryb" <msg...@juno.com> wrote in message

    >>
    >>>> news:[email protected]...
    >>>> On Oct 11, 4:12 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:

    >>
    >>>>> merryb wrote:
    >>>>>> On Oct 9, 10:06 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
    >>>>>>> We've been buying the single serve cups of hummus there for
    >>>>>>> several years. I can't remember what the brand was but when we
    >>>>>>> first bought it, it was a mixed pack. Half garlic and half
    >>>>>>> regular. Daughter and I don't like the garlic kind but husband
    >>>>>>> did. So it was fine. Then husband moved away and at the same
    >>>>>>> time they started selling that same kind but only the regular.
    >>>>>>> Great!

    >>
    >>>>>>> Then they switched to some other brand that was even better.
    >>>>>>> Loved the stuff!

    >>
    >>>>>>> But now? Sabra. Eek! I couldn't even finish one cup tonight.
    >>>>>>> What's with that stuff? Is it the soybean oil giving it the off
    >>>>>>> flavor? Soybean oil is the reason I hadn't bought any in the
    >>>>>>> past. Because I don't think it belongs in there. I only bought
    >>>>>>> it because husband was complaining that there was no hummus. He
    >>>>>>> must have had it before because he called it crap and refused
    >>>>>>> to eat it.

    >>
    >>>>>>> My mom made hummus from scratch once and hers had this same off
    >>>>>>> flavor. I am pretty sure that she didn't put any soybean oil in
    >>>>>>> hers though. Maybe bad tahini? I don't know.

    >>
    >>>>>> Why don't you just make your own to your liking? I'm sure there
    >>>>>> are a number of reasons why you don't...

    >>
    >>>>> Because I can't make it in individual cups? Yeah, I could put it
    >>>>> in a container. And wouldn't I need a food processor for that? I
    >>>>> got rid of mine and don't intend to get another. I can get plenty
    >>>>> of other hummus that
    >>>>> is good. I just can't get any in individual cups, AFAIK and I
    >>>>> don't want to
    >>>>> have to lug a container back home. I had to grab something
    >>>>> quickly to eat at the dance studio. So that's what I did.

    >>
    >>>> But you can find really small rubbermaid-type containers and pack
    >>>> it
    >>>> in those. You can even find them at the dollar stores. And then you
    >>>> can make it with whatever or no oil you want...And you can go to
    >>>> Goodwill and get a little processor, or even Target. Ok, your turn!

    >>
    >>>> Yeah. I have them. As I said, I didn't want to lug a container
    >>>> back home. And I don't *want* a food processor. I have a small
    >>>> kitchen and no place to put it. Oh and I don't want to make
    >>>> hummus. I like to cook. I don't much like to just whiz stuff up in
    >>>> a food processor.

    >>
    >>> At the recent food show here in SEA, Cash & Carry had a booth, and
    >>> my sis had her badge scanned. I am now getting their "hot sheet"
    >>> ads here at home. I see they have the 2 oz Solo cups for 2.85- this
    >>> is for 250 of them. The lids are 1.25 for 100, so this way you can
    >>> just toss them guilt free. I don't know how much hummus you eat at
    >>> a time, but even if you eat more than 2 oz, you can take a couple
    >>> with you and toss when empty.

    >>
    >> Plastic food containers are reusable. When you discover a size you
    >> like save a stack and run them through your dishwasher. Yogurt and
    >> cottage cheese tubs can be used more than fifty times.

    >
    > Yes, but these were disposable ones. As we can see, no matter what,
    > all Jules wants to do is bitch & moan.


    I wanted to buy the really good hummus that they used to carry. And they no
    longer carry it!



  6. #86
    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 12:53:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    <[email protected]> wrote:



    >
    >My fridge is only a few years old. But I have to turn it to the coldest
    >setting during the summer. Probably time to adjust it again now.
    >


    Something is wrong with it. Any refrigerator made in the past 25
    years should maintain the same internal temperature year round. We've
    never adjusted either of our two refrigerators or the freezer.

  7. #87
    Malcom \Mal\ Reynolds Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    In article <k5deht$4a0$[email protected]>, "Julie Bove" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > >>> At the recent food show here in SEA, Cash & Carry had a booth, and
    > >>> my sis had her badge scanned. I am now getting their "hot sheet"
    > >>> ads here at home. I see they have the 2 oz Solo cups for 2.85- this
    > >>> is for 250 of them. The lids are 1.25 for 100, so this way you can
    > >>> just toss them guilt free. I don't know how much hummus you eat at
    > >>> a time, but even if you eat more than 2 oz, you can take a couple
    > >>> with you and toss when empty.
    > >>
    > >> Plastic food containers are reusable. When you discover a size you
    > >> like save a stack and run them through your dishwasher. Yogurt and
    > >> cottage cheese tubs can be used more than fifty times.

    > >
    > > Yes, but these were disposable ones. As we can see, no matter what,
    > > all Jules wants to do is bitch & moan.

    >
    > I wanted to buy the really good hummus that they used to carry. And they no
    > longer carry it!


    yes Mr Ryan, we understand that using a re-usable container puts a considerable
    strain on your strength

  8. #88
    Malcom \Mal\ Reynolds Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    In article <k5degp$40q$[email protected]>, "Julie Bove" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > Yeah. I know that. I have some containers. I don't like toting them back
    > home and cleaning them. Nor do I want to make hummus!


    exactly what is the point of having reusable containers if you consider the
    effort of using and cleaning them, irregardless of the distance involved, is
    just too strenuous for you?

  9. #89
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!


    "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 12:53:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>
    >>My fridge is only a few years old. But I have to turn it to the coldest
    >>setting during the summer. Probably time to adjust it again now.
    >>

    >
    > Something is wrong with it. Any refrigerator made in the past 25
    > years should maintain the same internal temperature year round. We've
    > never adjusted either of our two refrigerators or the freezer.


    Hmmm...



  10. #90
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 00:57:50 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > "Ed Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    > > On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 12:53:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    > > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >>
    > >>My fridge is only a few years old. But I have to turn it to the coldest
    > >>setting during the summer. Probably time to adjust it again now.
    > >>

    > >
    > > Something is wrong with it. Any refrigerator made in the past 25
    > > years should maintain the same internal temperature year round. We've
    > > never adjusted either of our two refrigerators or the freezer.

    >
    > Hmmm...
    >

    Don't even bother to call a repairman - once you pay for their time
    (they usually include the cost of the house call if you decide to have
    them work on it) and parts, you might as well have bought a new
    refrigerator. If you can fix the problem by readjusting the temp,
    stay with that method and know you're getting a new refrigerator
    sooner rather than later.

    --
    I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

  11. #91
    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    "Julie Bove" wrote:
    >Brooklyn1 wrote:
    >>
    >> Plastic food containers are reusable. When you discover a size you
    >> like save a stack and run them through your dishwasher. Yogurt and
    >> cottage cheese tubs can be used more than fifty times.

    >
    >Yeah. I know that. I have some containers. I don't like toting them back
    >home and cleaning them. Nor do I want to make hummus!


    Sounds like you ought to just curl up and die.

    Anyway I don't even like hummus, it's a disgusting paste like infant
    poop. If for whatever reason you like garbanzos they are excellent
    roasted, season however... then just keep them in a zip-loc and eat
    however many you want... coated with wasabi you'll probably eat them
    all so be careful.
    http://www.delightglutenfree.com/cru...sted-chickpeas

  12. #92
    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:01:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 12:53:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>My fridge is only a few years old. But I have to turn it to the coldest
    >>setting during the summer. Probably time to adjust it again now.

    >
    >Something is wrong with it. Any refrigerator made in the past 25
    >years should maintain the same internal temperature year round.


    Maybe, only if the ambiant room temperature/humidity remains constant,
    which is not the case for most people.

    >We've never adjusted either of our two refrigerators or the freezer.


    You probably should check with a thermometer.

    Most modern fridges have an energy saver switch, typically for summer
    and winter usage, and if one lives in a humid climate not using the
    energy saver mode will cut way back on condensation around the door
    gasket, but that's different from temperature control. Modern
    fridges/freezers have dials for setting overall temperature level and
    balancing the temperature between the fridge and freezer (setting
    requires using thermometers and fiddling over several days), and also
    have an adjustible louver in each vegetable/meat bin for moisture
    level control... it's a good idea to make pencil marks indicating the
    proper winter/summer settings, on stand alone freezers too. Some high
    end units have a built-in digital thermometer/thermostat one can set
    for fridge and freezer and read/adjust from the outside, even have an
    alarm. I keep a thermometer in my fridge and another in the freezer
    section. I also have two fridges, the one in my basement requires
    winter/summer adjustment because I don't have A/C or thermostatically
    controlled heat down there. Between the two units I have more than
    sufficient freezer space so that I have no use for a stand alone
    freezer, for me the extra fridge space is more valuable. I have a
    thermometer in each unit in each section, four thermometers. I would
    suggest that Julie has no thermometer in her fridge so really hasn't a
    clue about what temperature is in her fridge, but then most people
    just guess, and have to toss out a lot of frozen veggies and spoiled
    milk, especially when they don't have central A/C, and use it. Your
    refrigerator/freezer can't compensate on its own for constantly
    changing ambient temperature and humidity.

  13. #93
    Boron Elgar Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:01:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 12:53:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>
    >>My fridge is only a few years old. But I have to turn it to the coldest
    >>setting during the summer. Probably time to adjust it again now.
    >>

    >
    >Something is wrong with it. Any refrigerator made in the past 25
    >years should maintain the same internal temperature year round. We've
    >never adjusted either of our two refrigerators or the freezer.



    I have had an Amana and a GE over the past 20 years. I also have an
    unariconditioned kitchen that gets as cool as the high 50s in winter
    and it has (rarely) busted 100 in the summer. The humidity, too, can
    fluctuate wildly.

    I keep a thermometer in the fridge. I have had to adjust temps over
    the years, too.

    Boron

  14. #94
    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:58:11 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:



    >>
    >>Something is wrong with it. Any refrigerator made in the past 25
    >>years should maintain the same internal temperature year round.

    >
    >Maybe, only if the ambiant room temperature/humidity remains constant,
    >which is not the case for most people.


    That is why they have a thermostat. No matter the typical home
    temperature (say, 65 to 95) it regulates the compressor and how long
    it runs to maintain temperature.



    >
    >>We've never adjusted either of our two refrigerators or the freezer.

    >
    >You probably should check with a thermometer.


    I have. No change. Thermostat is working properly.

    The thermostat is just an automatic switch. There is no magic, it is
    either open or closed to turn the cooling unit off or on. In the
    summer, more heat is absorbed by the refrigerator so the thermostat
    tells it to run longer.

    Same as with your house thermostat. Many people think by changing the
    setting it will get cooler or warmer faster. The unit is either on
    full blast or off. (An exception is a few newer high efficiency units
    that sense outdoor temperature and adjust flame settings)


    >
    > I would
    >suggest that Julie has no thermometer in her fridge so really hasn't a
    >clue about what temperature is in her fridge, but then most people
    >just guess, and have to toss out a lot of frozen veggies and spoiled
    >milk, especially when they don't have central A/C, and use it. Your
    >refrigerator/freezer can't compensate on its own for constantly
    >changing ambient temperature and humidity.



    Sure can for temperature. Humidity can make a difference in some
    regions, but never has here as it is not extreme.

  15. #95
    George M. Middius Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    Shelley reveals his long-held secret.

    > Anyway I don't even like hummus, it's a disgusting paste like infant
    > poop.


    Hahaha. All this time, we thought "TIAD" was an insult. Now you tell
    us it's the highest praise you know!


  16. #96
    Brooklyn1 Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    Ed Pawlowski wrote:
    >Brooklyn1 wrote:
    >
    >>>Something is wrong with it. Any refrigerator made in the past 25
    >>>years should maintain the same internal temperature year round.

    >>
    >>Maybe, only if the ambiant room temperature/humidity remains constant,
    >>which is not the case for most people.

    >
    >That is why they have a thermostat.


    The thermostat is something you adjust and you set according to
    ambient temperature and humidity. The fridge cannot automatically
    compensate for fluctuating ambient conditions... perhaps NASA has that
    feature but I've never heard of it for home units. I'm sure if you
    look inside your fridge you will find a couple of dials that your
    owner's manual will explain how to to adjust, they have a purpose,
    they're not decorative. Cooling works differently from heating. With
    heating the entire unit is inside the space being heated. With
    cooling the parts most critical to proper operation are located
    outside the space being refrigerated. Heating systems introduce hot
    air. Refrigeration does not introduce cold air, it extracts heat. With
    refrigeration ambient temperature is far more critical to optimum
    performance. Most people's homes do not maintain a steady ambient
    condition all year, that's why it behooves them to reset refrigertors
    summer and winter. People turn off their heat altogether in summer
    and turn off their air conditioner in winter, but a refrigerator
    doesn't get turned off seasonally, it needs to operate constantly all
    year, therefore it's settings need to be changed seasonally. If you
    don't optimize the settings seasonally your unit will still work but
    it will work harder, it consume more energy and the life of the unit
    will be shortened, plus it doesn't do as good a job keeping your food.
    I don't need to reset the fridge in my kitchen because I maintasin my
    house temperature at 70F 24/7/365 and a constant humidity of 40%. But
    the refrigerator in my basement is not in nearly so steady ambient
    conditions so I change its setting winter and summer. With AC the
    unit should be serviced minimally once yer, usuully at the start of
    warm weather. And that's when the sealed system is checked for the
    proper coolant level, if run with low coolant electric bills will be
    enormous. Even home heating systems should be serviced and
    recalibrated seasonally. With many systems it's very wasteful to
    leave the water temperature the same summer and winter. It's
    important to have a thermometer in each section of your fridge and
    look at it often, if you notice over time the temperature is creeping
    higher that is very indicative that your unit needs servicing, coolant
    likely needs to be added, same as auto air conditioners... an auto air
    conditioner running with low coolant will greatly decrease your mpg,
    and with the price of energy these days it's plain stupid not to keep
    close tabs of all refrigeration systems. It's very simple and quick
    to check a vehicals A/C but very few mechanics bother when they do a
    regular service, same as very few check the air in your tires,
    especially the spare. Tire pressure should be readjusted seasonally
    too. You'd be amazed at how many are riding around with a spare that
    has no air in it. The new vehicals have a warning light in the dash
    that indicates when tire pressure is low, checks the spare too. Did
    ya know that these days when you have your tires rotated you need to
    request they include the spare, otherwise they only rotate four tires,
    that's just dumb because one of the main reasons to rotate tire is to
    divide the milage with the spare too. Many SUVs and all full size
    pick up trucks have real spares.

  17. #97
    Malcom \Mal\ Reynolds Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    In article <[email protected]>, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1>
    wrote:

    > "Julie Bove" wrote:
    > >Brooklyn1 wrote:
    > >>
    > >> Plastic food containers are reusable. When you discover a size you
    > >> like save a stack and run them through your dishwasher. Yogurt and
    > >> cottage cheese tubs can be used more than fifty times.

    > >
    > >Yeah. I know that. I have some containers. I don't like toting them back
    > >home and cleaning them. Nor do I want to make hummus!

    >
    > Sounds like you ought to just curl up and die.
    >
    > Anyway I don't even like hummus, it's a disgusting paste like infant
    > poop. If for whatever reason you like garbanzos they are excellent
    > roasted, season however... then just keep them in a zip-loc and eat
    > however many you want... coated with wasabi you'll probably eat them
    > all so be careful.
    > http://www.delightglutenfree.com/cru...sted-chickpeas


    Julie will soon announce an aversion to ziplocks: "they never seal correctly,
    they never let you get everything out, they add a weird taste to my food, etc"

  18. #98
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    Brooklyn1 wrote:
    > On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:01:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 12:53:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> My fridge is only a few years old. But I have to turn it to the
    >>> coldest setting during the summer. Probably time to adjust it
    >>> again now.

    >>
    >> Something is wrong with it. Any refrigerator made in the past 25
    >> years should maintain the same internal temperature year round.

    >
    > Maybe, only if the ambiant room temperature/humidity remains constant,
    > which is not the case for most people.
    >
    >> We've never adjusted either of our two refrigerators or the freezer.

    >
    > You probably should check with a thermometer.
    >
    > Most modern fridges have an energy saver switch, typically for summer
    > and winter usage, and if one lives in a humid climate not using the
    > energy saver mode will cut way back on condensation around the door
    > gasket, but that's different from temperature control. Modern
    > fridges/freezers have dials for setting overall temperature level and
    > balancing the temperature between the fridge and freezer (setting
    > requires using thermometers and fiddling over several days), and also
    > have an adjustible louver in each vegetable/meat bin for moisture
    > level control... it's a good idea to make pencil marks indicating the
    > proper winter/summer settings, on stand alone freezers too. Some high
    > end units have a built-in digital thermometer/thermostat one can set
    > for fridge and freezer and read/adjust from the outside, even have an
    > alarm. I keep a thermometer in my fridge and another in the freezer
    > section. I also have two fridges, the one in my basement requires
    > winter/summer adjustment because I don't have A/C or thermostatically
    > controlled heat down there. Between the two units I have more than
    > sufficient freezer space so that I have no use for a stand alone
    > freezer, for me the extra fridge space is more valuable. I have a
    > thermometer in each unit in each section, four thermometers. I would
    > suggest that Julie has no thermometer in her fridge so really hasn't a
    > clue about what temperature is in her fridge, but then most people
    > just guess, and have to toss out a lot of frozen veggies and spoiled
    > milk, especially when they don't have central A/C, and use it. Your
    > refrigerator/freezer can't compensate on its own for constantly
    > changing ambient temperature and humidity.


    Mine is not an energy saver. But it was the only one on the market at the
    time that would fit the spot that I have.



  19. #99
    Julie Bove Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    Ed Pawlowski wrote:
    > On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:58:11 -0400, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>>
    >>> Something is wrong with it. Any refrigerator made in the past 25
    >>> years should maintain the same internal temperature year round.

    >>
    >> Maybe, only if the ambiant room temperature/humidity remains
    >> constant, which is not the case for most people.

    >
    > That is why they have a thermostat. No matter the typical home
    > temperature (say, 65 to 95) it regulates the compressor and how long
    > it runs to maintain temperature.
    >
    >
    >
    >>
    >>> We've never adjusted either of our two refrigerators or the freezer.

    >>
    >> You probably should check with a thermometer.

    >
    > I have. No change. Thermostat is working properly.
    >
    > The thermostat is just an automatic switch. There is no magic, it is
    > either open or closed to turn the cooling unit off or on. In the
    > summer, more heat is absorbed by the refrigerator so the thermostat
    > tells it to run longer.
    >
    > Same as with your house thermostat. Many people think by changing the
    > setting it will get cooler or warmer faster. The unit is either on
    > full blast or off. (An exception is a few newer high efficiency units
    > that sense outdoor temperature and adjust flame settings)
    >
    >
    >>
    >> I would
    >> suggest that Julie has no thermometer in her fridge so really hasn't
    >> a clue about what temperature is in her fridge, but then most people
    >> just guess, and have to toss out a lot of frozen veggies and spoiled
    >> milk, especially when they don't have central A/C, and use it. Your
    >> refrigerator/freezer can't compensate on its own for constantly
    >> changing ambient temperature and humidity.

    >
    >
    > Sure can for temperature. Humidity can make a difference in some
    > regions, but never has here as it is not extreme.


    There is a thermometer in there. Oddly enough it almost always remains in
    the safe temp. And yes, I have tried two different ones. My husband was
    home this summer and he has the bad habit of leaving the door open for
    extended periods of time either from looking in there or not shutting it
    when he is done. The thermometer did reach to a slightly unsafe temp.
    several times. At no time did it indicate that it was freezing and yet
    there was ice in there.



  20. #100
    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    Default Re: Fie on you Costco!

    On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:44:13 -0700, "Julie Bove"
    <[email protected]> wrote:



    >
    >There is a thermometer in there. Oddly enough it almost always remains in
    >the safe temp. And yes, I have tried two different ones. My husband was
    >home this summer and he has the bad habit of leaving the door open for
    >extended periods of time either from looking in there or not shutting it
    >when he is done. The thermometer did reach to a slightly unsafe temp.
    >several times. At no time did it indicate that it was freezing and yet
    >there was ice in there.
    >


    That is often a circulation problem. The cold air keep coming, but if
    it does not reach the thermostat, some areas will freeze and the areas
    of little circulation will be a bit warmer. Be sure there are no big
    items like pizza boxes blocking the air from moving around.

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