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    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    Quoting from:

    http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011

    In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
    specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
    yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
    consuming US bone-in beef.

    Those who do so are four times more likely to become
    ill than those who do not, he said.

  2. #2
    isw Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Quoting from:
    >
    > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011
    >
    > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
    > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
    > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
    > consuming US bone-in beef.
    >
    > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
    > ill than those who do not, he said.


    Every time I see one of these "four times as likely" announcements, I
    get really annoyed. They always omit the ONE THING that would let the
    information make sense (I suspect it's omitted on purpose, to make the
    announcement seem more significant than it probably is).

    Here's what I find so annoying:

    If the odds were one in a hundred, then "four times as likely" means one
    in twenty-five; probably something to worry about. But

    If the odds were one in a hundred billion, then "four times as likely"
    means one in twenty-five billion; nothing to be even slightly concerned
    about.

    Which is it, I wonder?

    Isaac

  3. #3
    Paul M. Cook Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone


    "Mark Thorson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > Quoting from:
    >
    > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011
    >
    > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
    > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
    > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
    > consuming US bone-in beef.
    >
    > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
    > ill than those who do not, he said.


    How the hell did they test that hypothsis? Would you participate in a blind
    study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? This is a hypothetical
    model and probably useless. I would wager that if one traced back the
    funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.

    It's a load of bull bones.

    Paul



  4. #4
    --Bryan Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    On Nov 11, 1:13*am, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
    > "Mark Thorson" <nos...@sonic.net> wrote in message
    >
    > news:[email protected]..
    >
    > > Quoting from:

    >
    > >http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011

    >
    > > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
    > > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
    > > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
    > > consuming US bone-in beef.

    >
    > > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
    > > ill than those who do not, he said.

    >
    > How the hell did they test that hypothsis? *Would you participate in a blind
    > study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? *This is a hypothetical
    > model and probably useless. *I would wager that if one traced back the
    > funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.
    >
    > It's a load of bull bones.


    I will continue to nibble.
    >
    > Paul


    --Bryan

  5. #5
    Pete C. Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone


    "Paul M. Cook" wrote:
    >
    > "Mark Thorson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]..
    > > Quoting from:
    > >
    > > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011
    > >
    > > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
    > > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
    > > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
    > > consuming US bone-in beef.
    > >
    > > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
    > > ill than those who do not, he said.

    >
    > How the hell did they test that hypothsis? Would you participate in a blind
    > study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? This is a hypothetical
    > model and probably useless. I would wager that if one traced back the
    > funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.
    >
    > It's a load of bull bones.
    >
    > Paul


    More likely to trace to some vegan group.

  6. #6
    Nancy2 Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    On Nov 11, 1:36*am, --Bryan <class...@brick.net> wrote:
    > On Nov 11, 1:13*am, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > "Mark Thorson" <nos...@sonic.net> wrote in message

    >
    > >news:[email protected]..

    >
    > > > Quoting from:

    >
    > > >http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011

    >
    > > > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
    > > > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
    > > > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
    > > > consuming US bone-in beef.

    >
    > > > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
    > > > ill than those who do not, he said.

    >
    > > How the hell did they test that hypothsis? *Would you participate in a blind
    > > study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? *This is a hypothetical
    > > model and probably useless. *I would wager that if one traced back the
    > > funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.

    >
    > > It's a load of bull bones.

    >
    > I will continue to nibble.
    >
    >
    >
    > > Paul

    >
    > --Bryan- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    I can't remember the last time I "nibbled" on a beef bone. Who does
    that?

    N.

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    Paul M. Cook Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone


    "Pete C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4afb1b0d$0$27688$[email protected] ster.com...
    >
    > "Paul M. Cook" wrote:
    >>
    >> "Mark Thorson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]..
    >> > Quoting from:
    >> >
    >> > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011
    >> >
    >> > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
    >> > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
    >> > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
    >> > consuming US bone-in beef.
    >> >
    >> > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
    >> > ill than those who do not, he said.

    >>
    >> How the hell did they test that hypothsis? Would you participate in a
    >> blind
    >> study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? This is a hypothetical
    >> model and probably useless. I would wager that if one traced back the
    >> funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.
    >>
    >> It's a load of bull bones.
    >>
    >> Paul

    >
    > More likely to trace to some vegan group.


    The vegans I have known openly look forward to massive deaths caused by BSE.
    They cannot wait for an epidemic. They pray for people's suffering so that
    it "enlightens" the world about the evils of being an omnivore.

    Paul



  8. #8
    Andy Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    Geez...

    Death is a natural ticket to every lifeform that we know of.

    So what if it's lettuce or bacon?

    You're gonna go, like it or not!!!

    **** THE FACTS!!!

    Andy



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    --Bryan Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    On Nov 11, 3:22*pm, Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
    > On Nov 11, 1:36*am, --Bryan <class...@brick.net> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Nov 11, 1:13*am, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:

    >
    > > > "Mark Thorson" <nos...@sonic.net> wrote in message

    >
    > > >news:[email protected]..

    >
    > > > > Quoting from:

    >
    > > > >http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011

    >
    > > > > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
    > > > > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
    > > > > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
    > > > > consuming US bone-in beef.

    >
    > > > > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
    > > > > ill than those who do not, he said.

    >
    > > > How the hell did they test that hypothsis? *Would you participate in a blind
    > > > study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? *This is a hypothetical
    > > > model and probably useless. *I would wager that if one traced back the
    > > > funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.

    >
    > > > It's a load of bull bones.

    >
    > > I will continue to nibble.

    >
    > > > Paul

    >
    > > --Bryan- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > > - Show quoted text -

    >
    > I can't remember the last time I "nibbled" on a beef bone. *Who does
    > that?


    Well, "nibble" is really not accurate. More like gnaw. I love t-
    bones/porterhouses. I love chewing all the meat off of the bones.
    The bones are fun to chew on too. I am very unladylike.
    >
    > N.


    --Bryan

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    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:38:49 -0800, Paul M. Cook wrote:

    > "Pete C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:4afb1b0d$0$27688$[email protected] ster.com...
    >>
    >> "Paul M. Cook" wrote:
    >>>
    >>> "Mark Thorson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:[email protected]..
    >>> > Quoting from:
    >>> >
    >>> > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011
    >>> >
    >>> > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
    >>> > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
    >>> > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
    >>> > consuming US bone-in beef.
    >>> >
    >>> > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
    >>> > ill than those who do not, he said.
    >>>
    >>> How the hell did they test that hypothsis? Would you participate in a
    >>> blind
    >>> study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? This is a hypothetical
    >>> model and probably useless. I would wager that if one traced back the
    >>> funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.
    >>>
    >>> It's a load of bull bones.
    >>>
    >>> Paul

    >>
    >> More likely to trace to some vegan group.

    >
    > The vegans I have known openly look forward to massive deaths caused by BSE.
    > They cannot wait for an epidemic. They pray for people's suffering so that
    > it "enlightens" the world about the evils of being an omnivore.
    >
    > Paul


    bull****. unless you know vegans who are also psychopaths.

    blake

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    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:47:41 -0600, Andy wrote:

    > Geez...
    >
    > Death is a natural ticket to every lifeform that we know of.
    >
    > So what if it's lettuce or bacon?
    >
    > You're gonna go, like it or not!!!
    >
    > **** THE FACTS!!!
    >
    > Andy


    you volunteering to die and have your body slow-smoked over hickory wood?

    blake

  12. #12
    Steve Pope Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    blake murphy <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:38:49 -0800, Paul M. Cook wrote:


    >> The vegans I have known openly look forward to massive deaths caused by BSE.
    >> They cannot wait for an epidemic. They pray for people's suffering so that
    >> it "enlightens" the world about the evils of being an omnivore.
    >>
    >> Paul


    >bull****. unless you know vegans who are also psychopaths.


    I dunno. I've knwon more than one vegan, feminist, environmentalist
    and/or anarchist to espouse an "I hope this sucker totally goes
    down" attitude.

    I'll leave whether I'm in sympathy with such views as a
    rhetorical question. :-)


    Steve

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    Nancy2 Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    On Nov 12, 8:53*am, blake murphy <blakepmNOTT...@verizon.net> wrote:
    > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:47:41 -0600, Andy wrote:
    > > Geez...

    >
    > > Death is a natural ticket to every lifeform that we know of.

    >
    > > So what if it's lettuce or bacon?

    >
    > > You're gonna go, like it or not!!!

    >
    > > **** THE FACTS!!!

    >
    > > Andy

    >
    > you volunteering to die and have your body slow-smoked over hickory wood?
    >
    > blake


    Once you're dead, what difference does it make?

    N.

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    Dan Abel Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    In article
    <[email protected]>,
    Nancy2 <[email protected]> wrote:


    > Once you're dead, what difference does it make?


    Quite a bit, actually. We are all going to die eventually. What will
    happen to our body after we die? By treating other bodies with respect,
    we are acknowledging that *we* want to be treated with respect, even
    after our death.

    Funerals and memorial services are for the living, but they remind us
    that someday, it's going to be *our* turn.

    --
    Dan Abel
    Petaluma, California USA
    [email protected]

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    Paul M. Cook Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone


    "blake murphy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:43oieq93cksn.bwaf6mjqh4k8$.[email protected]..
    > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:38:49 -0800, Paul M. Cook wrote:
    >
    >> "Pete C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:4afb1b0d$0$27688$[email protected] ster.com...
    >>>
    >>> "Paul M. Cook" wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> "Mark Thorson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>> news:[email protected]..
    >>>> > Quoting from:
    >>>> >
    >>>> > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011
    >>>> >
    >>>> > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
    >>>> > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
    >>>> > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
    >>>> > consuming US bone-in beef.
    >>>> >
    >>>> > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
    >>>> > ill than those who do not, he said.
    >>>>
    >>>> How the hell did they test that hypothsis? Would you participate in a
    >>>> blind
    >>>> study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? This is a hypothetical
    >>>> model and probably useless. I would wager that if one traced back the
    >>>> funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.
    >>>>
    >>>> It's a load of bull bones.
    >>>>
    >>>> Paul
    >>>
    >>> More likely to trace to some vegan group.

    >>
    >> The vegans I have known openly look forward to massive deaths caused by
    >> BSE.
    >> They cannot wait for an epidemic. They pray for people's suffering so
    >> that
    >> it "enlightens" the world about the evils of being an omnivore.
    >>
    >> Paul

    >
    > bull****. unless you know vegans who are also psychopaths.


    There is another kind?

    Paul



  16. #16
    Andy Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    Sleep thy final sleep.
    Free from care and sorrow.
    Rest where none weep,
    And we too, shall follow.

    Sebastian Dangerfield
    "The Ginger Man"
    --J.P. Donleavy

  17. #17
    Cindy Hamilton Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    On Nov 12, 4:00*pm, Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:
    > In article
    > <b9f3a5af-8f55-4772-9eca-704ed2e5f...@h34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
    >
    > *Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
    > > Once you're dead, what difference does it make?

    >
    > Quite a bit, actually. *We are all going to die eventually. *What will
    > happen to our body after we die? *


    I don't care. Burn it, bury it, throw it in the street. It just
    doesn't
    matter what happens to it when I'm done with it. It's not like
    there will be a "me" to care about it.

    Cindy Hamilton

  18. #18
    --Bryan Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    On Nov 13, 8:12*am, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@yahoo.com>
    wrote:
    > On Nov 12, 4:00*pm, Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:
    >
    > > In article
    > > <b9f3a5af-8f55-4772-9eca-704ed2e5f...@h34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,

    >
    > > *Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
    > > > Once you're dead, what difference does it make?

    >
    > > Quite a bit, actually. *We are all going to die eventually. *What will
    > > happen to our body after we die? *

    >
    > I don't care. *Burn it, bury it, throw it in the street. *It just
    > doesn't
    > matter what happens to it when I'm done with it. *It's not like
    > there will be a "me" to care about it.


    I really hope folks don't start throwing corpses into the street.
    That'd suck. I hate dead people. They stink.
    >
    > Cindy Hamilton


    --Bryan

  19. #19
    Cindy Hamilton Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    On Nov 13, 9:33*am, --Bryan <class...@brick.net> wrote:

    > I really hope folks don't start throwing corpses into the street.
    > That'd suck. *I hate dead people. *They stink.


    Oh, I don't want people throwing corpses in the street while
    I'm still alive. That would suck, bigtime.

    After I'm dead--I don't care.

    Oh, and to bring this back on topic for r.f.c:

    I don't care if I'm made into meat pies, either.

    Cindy

  20. #20
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

    On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:23:33 -0800 (PST), Nancy2 wrote:

    > On Nov 12, 8:53*am, blake murphy <blakepmNOTT...@verizon.net> wrote:
    >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:47:41 -0600, Andy wrote:
    >>> Geez...

    >>
    >>> Death is a natural ticket to every lifeform that we know of.

    >>
    >>> So what if it's lettuce or bacon?

    >>
    >>> You're gonna go, like it or not!!!

    >>
    >>> **** THE FACTS!!!

    >>
    >>> Andy

    >>
    >> you volunteering to die and have your body slow-smoked over hickory wood?
    >>
    >> blake

    >
    > Once you're dead, what difference does it make?
    >
    > N.


    actually, my hopes were pinned on the 'volunteering to die' part.

    your pal,
    blake

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