Thread: Expert Says Four Times Less Mad Cow Risk If You Don't Nibble Bone

In article <[email protected]>,
Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Quoting from:
>
> http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011
>
> In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
> specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
> yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
> consuming US bone-in beef.
>
> Those who do so are four times more likely to become
> ill than those who do not, he said.

Every time I see one of these "four times as likely" announcements, I
get really annoyed. They always omit the ONE THING that would let the
information make sense (I suspect it's omitted on purpose, to make the
announcement seem more significant than it probably is).

Here's what I find so annoying:

If the odds were one in a hundred, then "four times as likely" means one
in twenty-five; probably something to worry about. But

If the odds were one in a hundred billion, then "four times as likely"
means one in twenty-five billion; nothing to be even slightly concerned
about.

Which is it, I wonder?

Isaac

"Mark Thorson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> Quoting from:
>
> http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011
>
> In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
> specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
> yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
> consuming US bone-in beef.
>
> Those who do so are four times more likely to become
> ill than those who do not, he said.

How the hell did they test that hypothsis? Would you participate in a blind
study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? This is a hypothetical
model and probably useless. I would wager that if one traced back the
funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.

It's a load of bull bones.

Paul

On Nov 11, 1:13*am, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
> "Mark Thorson" <nos...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]..
>
> > Quoting from:
>
> >http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011
>
> > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
> > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
> > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
> > consuming US bone-in beef.
>
> > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
> > ill than those who do not, he said.
>
> How the hell did they test that hypothsis? *Would you participate in a blind
> study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? *This is a hypothetical
> model and probably useless. *I would wager that if one traced back the
> funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.
>
> It's a load of bull bones.

I will continue to nibble.
>
> Paul

--Bryan

"Paul M. Cook" wrote:
>
> "Mark Thorson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]..
> > Quoting from:
> >
> > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011
> >
> > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
> > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
> > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
> > consuming US bone-in beef.
> >
> > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
> > ill than those who do not, he said.
>
> How the hell did they test that hypothsis? Would you participate in a blind
> study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? This is a hypothetical
> model and probably useless. I would wager that if one traced back the
> funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.
>
> It's a load of bull bones.
>
> Paul

More likely to trace to some vegan group.

On Nov 11, 1:36*am, --Bryan <class...@brick.net> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 1:13*am, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Mark Thorson" <nos...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:[email protected]..
>
> > > Quoting from:
>
> > >http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011
>
> > > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
> > > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
> > > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
> > > consuming US bone-in beef.
>
> > > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
> > > ill than those who do not, he said.
>
> > How the hell did they test that hypothsis? *Would you participate in a blind
> > study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? *This is a hypothetical
> > model and probably useless. *I would wager that if one traced back the
> > funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.
>
> > It's a load of bull bones.
>
> I will continue to nibble.
>
>
>
> > Paul
>
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> - Show quoted text -

I can't remember the last time I "nibbled" on a beef bone. Who does
that?

N.

"Pete C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Paul M. Cook" wrote:
>>
>> "Mark Thorson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]..
>> > Quoting from:
>> >
>> > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011
>> >
>> > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
>> > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
>> > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
>> > consuming US bone-in beef.
>> >
>> > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
>> > ill than those who do not, he said.
>>
>> How the hell did they test that hypothsis? Would you participate in a
>> blind
>> study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? This is a hypothetical
>> model and probably useless. I would wager that if one traced back the
>> funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.
>>
>> It's a load of bull bones.
>>
>> Paul
>
> More likely to trace to some vegan group.

The vegans I have known openly look forward to massive deaths caused by BSE.
They cannot wait for an epidemic. They pray for people's suffering so that
it "enlightens" the world about the evils of being an omnivore.

Paul

Geez...

Death is a natural ticket to every lifeform that we know of.

So what if it's lettuce or bacon?

You're gonna go, like it or not!!!

**** THE FACTS!!!

Andy

On Nov 11, 3:22*pm, Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 1:36*am, --Bryan <class...@brick.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 1:13*am, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>
> > > "Mark Thorson" <nos...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:[email protected]..
>
> > > > Quoting from:
>
> > > >http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011
>
> > > > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
> > > > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
> > > > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
> > > > consuming US bone-in beef.
>
> > > > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
> > > > ill than those who do not, he said.
>
> > > How the hell did they test that hypothsis? *Would you participate in a blind
> > > study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? *This is a hypothetical
> > > model and probably useless. *I would wager that if one traced back the
> > > funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.
>
> > > It's a load of bull bones.
>
> > I will continue to nibble.
>
> > > Paul
>
> > --Bryan- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I can't remember the last time I "nibbled" on a beef bone. *Who does
> that?

Well, "nibble" is really not accurate. More like gnaw. I love t-
bones/porterhouses. I love chewing all the meat off of the bones.
The bones are fun to chew on too. I am very unladylike.
>
> N.

--Bryan

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:38:49 -0800, Paul M. Cook wrote:

> "Pete C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:4afb1b0d$0$27688$[email protected] ster.com...
>>
>> "Paul M. Cook" wrote:
>>>
>>> "Mark Thorson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]..
>>> > Quoting from:
>>> >
>>> > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011
>>> >
>>> > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
>>> > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
>>> > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
>>> > consuming US bone-in beef.
>>> >
>>> > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
>>> > ill than those who do not, he said.
>>>
>>> How the hell did they test that hypothsis? Would you participate in a
>>> blind
>>> study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? This is a hypothetical
>>> model and probably useless. I would wager that if one traced back the
>>> funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.
>>>
>>> It's a load of bull bones.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> More likely to trace to some vegan group.
>
> The vegans I have known openly look forward to massive deaths caused by BSE.
> They cannot wait for an epidemic. They pray for people's suffering so that
> it "enlightens" the world about the evils of being an omnivore.
>
> Paul

bull****. unless you know vegans who are also psychopaths.

blake

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:47:41 -0600, Andy wrote:

> Geez...
>
> Death is a natural ticket to every lifeform that we know of.
>
> So what if it's lettuce or bacon?
>
> You're gonna go, like it or not!!!
>
> **** THE FACTS!!!
>
> Andy

you volunteering to die and have your body slow-smoked over hickory wood?

blake

blake murphy <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:38:49 -0800, Paul M. Cook wrote:

>> The vegans I have known openly look forward to massive deaths caused by BSE.
>> They cannot wait for an epidemic. They pray for people's suffering so that
>> it "enlightens" the world about the evils of being an omnivore.
>>
>> Paul

>bull****. unless you know vegans who are also psychopaths.

I dunno. I've knwon more than one vegan, feminist, environmentalist
and/or anarchist to espouse an "I hope this sucker totally goes
down" attitude.

I'll leave whether I'm in sympathy with such views as a
rhetorical question. :-)


Steve

On Nov 12, 8:53*am, blake murphy <blakepmNOTT...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:47:41 -0600, Andy wrote:
> > Geez...
>
> > Death is a natural ticket to every lifeform that we know of.
>
> > So what if it's lettuce or bacon?
>
> > You're gonna go, like it or not!!!
>
> > **** THE FACTS!!!
>
> > Andy
>
> you volunteering to die and have your body slow-smoked over hickory wood?
>
> blake

Once you're dead, what difference does it make?

N.

In article
<[email protected]>,
Nancy2 <[email protected]> wrote:


> Once you're dead, what difference does it make?

Quite a bit, actually. We are all going to die eventually. What will
happen to our body after we die? By treating other bodies with respect,
we are acknowledging that *we* want to be treated with respect, even
after our death.

Funerals and memorial services are for the living, but they remind us
that someday, it's going to be *our* turn.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email protected]

"blake murphy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:43oieq93cksn.bwaf6mjqh4k8$.[email protected]..
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:38:49 -0800, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>
>> "Pete C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:4afb1b0d$0$27688$[email protected] ster.com...
>>>
>>> "Paul M. Cook" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Mark Thorson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]..
>>>> > Quoting from:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiw.../09/2003458011
>>>> >
>>>> > In related news, Lin Ja-liang, a clinical toxicology
>>>> > specialist at Chang Gung Memorial Hospital in Linkou,
>>>> > yesterday advised people not to nibble the bones when
>>>> > consuming US bone-in beef.
>>>> >
>>>> > Those who do so are four times more likely to become
>>>> > ill than those who do not, he said.
>>>>
>>>> How the hell did they test that hypothsis? Would you participate in a
>>>> blind
>>>> study here you knowingly get exposed to prions? This is a hypothetical
>>>> model and probably useless. I would wager that if one traced back the
>>>> funding for this "study" it would lead to a meat industry PR firm.
>>>>
>>>> It's a load of bull bones.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>
>>> More likely to trace to some vegan group.
>>
>> The vegans I have known openly look forward to massive deaths caused by
>> BSE.
>> They cannot wait for an epidemic. They pray for people's suffering so
>> that
>> it "enlightens" the world about the evils of being an omnivore.
>>
>> Paul
>
> bull****. unless you know vegans who are also psychopaths.

There is another kind?

Paul

Sleep thy final sleep.
Free from care and sorrow.
Rest where none weep,
And we too, shall follow.

Sebastian Dangerfield
"The Ginger Man"
--J.P. Donleavy

On Nov 12, 4:00*pm, Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:
> In article
> <b9f3a5af-8f55-4772-9eca-704ed2e5f...@h34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> *Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
> > Once you're dead, what difference does it make?
>
> Quite a bit, actually. *We are all going to die eventually. *What will
> happen to our body after we die? *

I don't care. Burn it, bury it, throw it in the street. It just
doesn't
matter what happens to it when I'm done with it. It's not like
there will be a "me" to care about it.

Cindy Hamilton

On Nov 13, 8:12*am, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Nov 12, 4:00*pm, Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <b9f3a5af-8f55-4772-9eca-704ed2e5f...@h34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > *Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
> > > Once you're dead, what difference does it make?
>
> > Quite a bit, actually. *We are all going to die eventually. *What will
> > happen to our body after we die? *
>
> I don't care. *Burn it, bury it, throw it in the street. *It just
> doesn't
> matter what happens to it when I'm done with it. *It's not like
> there will be a "me" to care about it.

I really hope folks don't start throwing corpses into the street.
That'd suck. I hate dead people. They stink.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

--Bryan

On Nov 13, 9:33*am, --Bryan <class...@brick.net> wrote:

> I really hope folks don't start throwing corpses into the street.
> That'd suck. *I hate dead people. *They stink.

Oh, I don't want people throwing corpses in the street while
I'm still alive. That would suck, bigtime.

After I'm dead--I don't care.

Oh, and to bring this back on topic for r.f.c:

I don't care if I'm made into meat pies, either.

Cindy

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:23:33 -0800 (PST), Nancy2 wrote:

> On Nov 12, 8:53*am, blake murphy <blakepmNOTT...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:47:41 -0600, Andy wrote:
>>> Geez...
>>
>>> Death is a natural ticket to every lifeform that we know of.
>>
>>> So what if it's lettuce or bacon?
>>
>>> You're gonna go, like it or not!!!
>>
>>> **** THE FACTS!!!
>>
>>> Andy
>>
>> you volunteering to die and have your body slow-smoked over hickory wood?
>>
>> blake
>
> Once you're dead, what difference does it make?
>
> N.

actually, my hopes were pinned on the 'volunteering to die' part.

your pal,
blake