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Thread: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

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    Terry Pulliam Burd Guest

    Default EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    Take that, Wally Mart!

    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,3111310.story

    I'm sort of surprised that Bristol Farms is included in the
    accusations of dilution of olive oil. BF has always been my go-to
    market for high quality stuff.

    Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

    --

    "If the soup had been as warm as the wine,
    if the wine had been as old as the turkey,
    and if the turkey had had a breast like the maid,
    it would have been a swell dinner." Duncan Hines


    To reply, remove "spambot" and replace it with "cox"

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    spamtrap1888 Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    On Aug 5, 7:36*am, Terry Pulliam Burd <ntpull...@spambot.net> wrote:
    > Take that, Wally Mart!
    >
    > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-20100805,0,31...
    >
    > I'm sort of surprised that Bristol Farms is included in the
    > accusations of dilution of olive oil. BF has always been my go-to
    > market for high quality stuff.
    >


    Did you notice the other case the guy is pursuing?

    "His firm, Callahan & Blaine of Santa Ana, also filed a class-action
    complaint last month against 99 Cents Only Stores alleging unfair and
    deceptive business practices and misleading advertising because the
    discount chain raised some prices to 99.99 cents."


  3. #3
    Giusi Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II


    "Terry Pulliam Burd" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    > Take that, Wally Mart!
    >
    > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,3111310.story
    >
    > I'm sort of surprised that Bristol Farms is included in the> accusations
    > of dilution of olive oil. BF has always been my go-to> market for high
    > quality stuff.

    ----------------------------------------
    This may explain some of the confusion over what it should taste like and
    why people treasure it.



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    The Ranger Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    Terry Pulliam Burd <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > Take that, Wally Mart!
    >
    > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,3111310.story
    >
    > I'm sort of surprised that Bristol Farms is included in the
    > accusations of dilution of olive oil. BF has always been my go-to
    > market for high quality stuff.


    I'm not surprised that several suppliers of EVOO have been adulterating the
    their products to known discount chains (Kmart, Walmart) and passing it off
    as a quality product. I wasn't surprised to also see Bristol Farms included
    in the claim given my experiences with their products. I'm sure those
    companies know the demographics and knew they wouldn't know the difference
    between quality EVOO and the adulterated product.

    Until some strict legislation is passed and the costs of getting caught
    outweight the profits to be made, this will become more common.

    ObTopic: I currently have EVOOs from Spain, Greece, Italy and California.
    Each lends a different taste to the dishes I make. The Spanish EVOO is so
    fragrant that we only use it for dipping.

    The Ranger



  5. #5
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 07:36:56 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:

    > Take that, Wally Mart!
    >
    > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,3111310.story
    >
    > I'm sort of surprised that Bristol Farms is included in the
    > accusations of dilution of olive oil. BF has always been my go-to
    > market for high quality stuff.
    >
    > Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd


    o.k., this is absolutely the last straw. it's back to 10W-40 for me.

    your pal,
    blake

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    Steve Pope Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    spamtrap1888 <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Did you notice the other case the guy is pursuing?
    >
    >"His firm, Callahan & Blaine of Santa Ana, also filed a class-action
    >complaint last month against 99 Cents Only Stores alleging unfair and
    >deceptive business practices and misleading advertising because the
    >discount chain raised some prices to 99.99 cents."


    I think it's way stupid of 99 Cents Only to charge 99.99 cents
    instead of 99 cents. It breeds badwill. It is not however actionable.


    Steve

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    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    spamtrap1888 wrote:
    >
    > Did you notice the other case the guy is pursuing?
    >
    > "His firm, Callahan & Blaine of Santa Ana, also filed a class-action
    > complaint last month against 99 Cents Only Stores alleging unfair and
    > deceptive business practices and misleading advertising because the
    > discount chain raised some prices to 99.99 cents."


    Not to mention his lawsuit a few years ago
    against the producers of The Never-Ending Story.

  8. #8
    Dan Abel Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    In article <i3eqdb$h9k$[email protected]>,
    [email protected] (Steve Pope) wrote:

    > spamtrap1888 <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Did you notice the other case the guy is pursuing?
    > >
    > >"His firm, Callahan & Blaine of Santa Ana, also filed a class-action
    > >complaint last month against 99 Cents Only Stores alleging unfair and
    > >deceptive business practices and misleading advertising because the
    > >discount chain raised some prices to 99.99 cents."

    >
    > I think it's way stupid of 99 Cents Only to charge 99.99 cents
    > instead of 99 cents. It breeds badwill. It is not however actionable.


    So what do you think of Motel 6 and Super 8?

    --
    Dan Abel
    Petaluma, California USA
    [email protected]

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    sf Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:42:48 -0700, Dan Abel <[email protected]> wrote:

    > So what do you think of Motel 6 and Super 8?


    Most people have forgotten why they have their names. Originally
    Motel 6 really did charge $6, Super 8 is just a Johnny Come Lately.

    --

    Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.

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    Nunya Bidnits Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II


    Giusi <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Terry Pulliam Burd" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    >> Take that, Wally Mart!
    >>
    >> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,3111310.story
    >>
    >> I'm sort of surprised that Bristol Farms is included in the>
    >> accusations of dilution of olive oil. BF has always been my go-to>
    >> market for high quality stuff.

    > ----------------------------------------
    > This may explain some of the confusion over what it should taste like
    > and why people treasure it.


    DiLorenzo EVOO... Italian import, the label says from olives from Italy,
    Greece, and Spain. I stocked up on it back when World Market had it on sale.

    I don't know how to tell if it's been adulterated, but I do like the rich
    color, taste, and aroma.

    MartyB



  11. #11
    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    sf wrote:
    >
    > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:42:48 -0700, Dan Abel <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > So what do you think of Motel 6 and Super 8?

    >
    > Most people have forgotten why they have their names. Originally
    > Motel 6 really did charge $6, Super 8 is just a Johnny Come Lately.


    I think that was about 40 years ago. My dad used
    to be an investor in Motel 6, and he told me the
    reason for the name was that in some parts of the
    country motels were not allowed to advertise their
    rates.

  12. #12
    gloria.p Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    The Ranger wrote:

    >
    > ObTopic: I currently have EVOOs from Spain, Greece, Italy and California.
    > Each lends a different taste to the dishes I make. The Spanish EVOO is so
    > fragrant that we only use it for dipping.
    >



    Does "fragrant" = strong flavored? I found a lot of locally pressed
    olive oils in Spain and Portugal to be so strong flavored they were
    unpleasant.

    gloria p

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    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 07:36:56 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:

    > Take that, Wally Mart!
    >
    > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,3111310.story
    >
    > I'm sort of surprised that Bristol Farms is included in the
    > accusations of dilution of olive oil. BF has always been my go-to
    > market for high quality stuff.
    >
    > Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd


    This sounds like a bunch of BS. Walmart "Great Value" brand was
    one of the top 2 olive oils in the testings conducted last month.
    Yet they're suing them anyway. And they're claiming adulteration
    with "cheaper alternatives", but don't specify that they are *not*
    EVOO.

    And then the suit also claims non-conformation of "International
    Standards". Except for acidity, there is no governing standard
    for imported olive oil.

    The shysters are just preying on the UC Davis report and haven't
    even lifted a finger to conduct any research to support their
    bogus case.

    -sw

  14. #14
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 07:41:19 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888 wrote:

    > Did you notice the other case the guy is pursuing?
    >
    > "His firm, Callahan & Blaine of Santa Ana, also filed a class-action
    > complaint last month against 99 Cents Only Stores alleging unfair and
    > deceptive business practices and misleading advertising because the
    > discount chain raised some prices to 99.99 cents."


    Yeah - I like that part, too. Like I said, they're just out to
    swindle a few bucks on a case with no merit.

    -sw

  15. #15
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:42:48 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:

    > In article <i3eqdb$h9k$[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] (Steve Pope) wrote:
    >
    >> spamtrap1888 <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Did you notice the other case the guy is pursuing?
    >>>
    >>>"His firm, Callahan & Blaine of Santa Ana, also filed a class-action
    >>>complaint last month against 99 Cents Only Stores alleging unfair and
    >>>deceptive business practices and misleading advertising because the
    >>>discount chain raised some prices to 99.99 cents."

    >>
    >> I think it's way stupid of 99 Cents Only to charge 99.99 cents
    >> instead of 99 cents. It breeds badwill. It is not however actionable.

    >
    > So what do you think of Motel 6 and Super 8?


    I didn't know where they got their names until now. Maybe if
    their name name was Motel $6 or Super $8.88, then they could be
    sued.

    I do think a couple of the $.99 cent stores do claim "Everything
    ..99 cents". So what the hell are they selling for $99.99? And
    does that explicitly rule out prices ending in $.99?

    I would say a store name of, "Everything 99 cents" with no other
    claims does not bar products that only end in $nnn.99.

    -sw

  16. #16
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 12:14:01 -0400, blake murphy wrote:

    > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 07:36:56 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd wrote:
    >
    >> Take that, Wally Mart!
    >>
    >> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,3111310.story
    >>
    >> I'm sort of surprised that Bristol Farms is included in the
    >> accusations of dilution of olive oil. BF has always been my go-to
    >> market for high quality stuff.
    >>
    >> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

    >
    > o.k., this is absolutely the last straw. it's back to 10W-40 for me.


    And don't forget top pick up some non-stick spray, WD-40.

    -sw

  17. #17
    Dan Abel Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Sqwertz <swertz@cluemai[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:42:48 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:
    >
    > > In article <i3eqdb$h9k$[email protected]>,
    > > [email protected] (Steve Pope) wrote:
    > >
    > >> spamtrap1888 <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>Did you notice the other case the guy is pursuing?
    > >>>
    > >>>"His firm, Callahan & Blaine of Santa Ana, also filed a class-action
    > >>>complaint last month against 99 Cents Only Stores alleging unfair and
    > >>>deceptive business practices and misleading advertising because the
    > >>>discount chain raised some prices to 99.99 cents."
    > >>
    > >> I think it's way stupid of 99 Cents Only to charge 99.99 cents
    > >> instead of 99 cents. It breeds badwill. It is not however actionable.

    > >
    > > So what do you think of Motel 6 and Super 8?

    >
    > I didn't know where they got their names until now. Maybe if
    > their name name was Motel $6 or Super $8.88, then they could be
    > sued.


    I don't think they could be sued (but I'm no lawyer). I just think it's
    stupid to put your price in your name. Inflation wasn't just invented,
    you know.

    > I do think a couple of the $.99 cent stores do claim "Everything
    > .99 cents". So what the hell are they selling for $99.99?


    From what was written above, it's US$.9999, or 99.99 cents. Since there
    is no way that I know of to pay that amount, I imagine that means you
    pay a dollar even.

    > And
    > does that explicitly rule out prices ending in $.99?


    Good question. I think people would go along with that.

    > I would say a store name of, "Everything 99 cents" with no other
    > claims does not bar products that only end in $nnn.99.


    Perhaps it depends on the signage. We've all certainly seen much worse
    in the car world. There are all sorts of come-ons that really aren't
    true.

    --
    Dan Abel
    Petaluma, California USA
    [email protected]

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    The Ranger Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    gloria.p <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:i3f645$fqi$[email protected]..
    > The Ranger wrote:


    >> ObTopic: I currently have EVOOs from Spain, Greece,
    >> Italy and California. Each lends a different taste to the
    >> dishes I make. The Spanish EVOO is so fragrant that
    >> we only use it for dipping.
    >>

    > Does "fragrant" = strong flavored? I found a lot of locally pressed olive
    > oils in Spain and Portugal to be so strong flavored they were unpleasant.


    Not regarding this particular EVOO; fragrant means that you can smell a
    spice-like scent. To me, it lends a nice essence to dipping but the two
    times I added it to a cooking dish it overpowered it.

    Strong-flavored oils, in my VERY limited experience, have been dominated by
    the Greek entries. Some have been downright bitter and very unpleasant. I've
    not tried any from Portugal (yet) but I'm young and love a challenge. We
    have a local Portuguese community so finding one might be easier than
    finding a good port!

    The Ranger



  19. #19
    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    Dan Abel wrote:
    >
    > From what was written above, it's US$.9999, or 99.99 cents. Since there
    > is no way that I know of to pay that amount, I imagine that means you
    > pay a dollar even.


    No, you buy a hundred items and you get a penny off.
    That's your reward for buying a larger quantity, like
    a fifty cents apiece vs. three for a dollar deal.

  20. #20
    Don Martinich Guest

    Default Re: EVOO We Hardly Knew Ye, Pt. II

    In article <[email protected] dth>,
    "The Ranger" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > gloria.p <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:i3f645$fqi$[email protected]..
    > > The Ranger wrote:

    >
    > >> ObTopic: I currently have EVOOs from Spain, Greece,
    > >> Italy and California. Each lends a different taste to the
    > >> dishes I make. The Spanish EVOO is so fragrant that
    > >> we only use it for dipping.
    > >>

    > > Does "fragrant" = strong flavored? I found a lot of locally pressed olive
    > > oils in Spain and Portugal to be so strong flavored they were unpleasant.

    >
    > Not regarding this particular EVOO; fragrant means that you can smell a
    > spice-like scent. To me, it lends a nice essence to dipping but the two
    > times I added it to a cooking dish it overpowered it.
    >
    > Strong-flavored oils, in my VERY limited experience, have been dominated by
    > the Greek entries. Some have been downright bitter and very unpleasant. I've
    > not tried any from Portugal (yet) but I'm young and love a challenge. We
    > have a local Portuguese community so finding one might be easier than
    > finding a good port!
    >
    > The Ranger


    Oils pressed from less ripe olives tend to have stronger aromas and
    flavors. Also aging the oil makes some difference. I don't know about
    Greece but Italy , Spain, and France all produced oils with a wide range
    of flavors/aromas depending on all the usual suspects: variety,
    ripeness, microclimate, cultural practices and so on. From a marketing
    angle, I think the producers/packers of high priced oils like to use the
    "greener" oils so their customers can talk about their favorite oils
    using a lot of wacky descriptors just like a bunch of yuppie wine snobs.
    How else can you charge 30 bucks for 8 ounces of cooking oil? (I guess
    packaging it in perfume bottle helps.)

    D.M.

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