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  1. #1
    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Escolar

    I spotted some escolar at an Asian food store, frozen
    steaks. I was tempted to try it, but the Wikipedia
    entry is a bit scary.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escolar

    Although my digestive system seems to be working
    excellently, I attribute that to avoiding things like
    this.

    To you who have eaten escolar, is it worth the risk?
    Is it some really great fish that must be tried?

  2. #2
    Chemo the Clown Guest

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    On Jun 1, 4:20*pm, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
    > I spotted some escolar at an Asian food store, frozen
    > steaks. *I was tempted to try it, but the Wikipedia
    > entry is a bit scary.
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escolar
    >
    > Although my digestive system seems to be working
    > excellently, I attribute that to avoiding things like
    > this.
    >
    > To you who have eaten escolar, is it worth the risk?
    > Is it some really great fish that must be tried?


    Symptoms may include stomach cramps, loose bowel movements, diarrhea,
    headaches, nausea, and vomiting.
    I think that's enough to turn me off.

  3. #3
    notbob Guest

    Default Re: Escolar

    On 2010-06-01, Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:

    > To you who have eaten escolar, is it worth the risk?


    How the heck can anyone else know what your digestive system can
    tolerate!?

    YOU eat it and then tell US!!

    nb

  4. #4
    pavane Guest

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    "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:O0hNn.32757$[email protected]..
    | On 2010-06-01, Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    |
    | > To you who have eaten escolar, is it worth the risk?
    |
    | How the heck can anyone else know what your digestive system can
    | tolerate!?
    |
    | YOU eat it and then tell US!!

    Escolar has a well documented history of digestive
    problems and GI upset. *In all probability* it will cause
    similar problems; it tastes good, one of my favorite sushis,
    but the side effects can be nasty. I agree that he should
    try it, but he should be cautious and aware. The indigestible
    components of escolar are well known and real. Mark should
    be congratulated for asking, not criticized.

    pavane



  5. #5
    Omelet Guest

    Default Re: Escolar

    In article <O0hNn.32757$[email protected]>,
    notbob <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 2010-06-01, Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > To you who have eaten escolar, is it worth the risk?

    >
    > How the heck can anyone else know what your digestive system can
    > tolerate!?
    >
    > YOU eat it and then tell US!!
    >
    > nb


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  6. #6
    gtr Guest

    Default Re: Escolar

    On 2010-06-01 16:20:19 -0700, Mark Thorson said:

    > I spotted some escolar at an Asian food store, frozen
    > steaks. I was tempted to try it, but the Wikipedia
    > entry is a bit scary.
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escolar
    >
    > Although my digestive system seems to be working
    > excellently, I attribute that to avoiding things like
    > this.
    >
    > To you who have eaten escolar, is it worth the risk?
    > Is it some really great fish that must be tried?


    We just had a long tedious battle over it a couple of months ago when I
    first got here. Many don't want to try it or have tried it, but still
    don't want to eat it. Then there's those like swertz who thinks anyone
    who won't eat it is a "butt****" among other enlightening views.
    --
    If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?


  7. #7
    Steve Pope Guest

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    gtr <[email protected]> wrote:

    >We just had a long tedious battle over it a couple of months ago when I
    >first got here. Many don't want to try it or have tried it, but still
    >don't want to eat it. Then there's those like swertz who thinks anyone
    >who won't eat it is a "butt****" among other enlightening views.


    Might as well get used to eating oilfish anyway.


    Steve

  8. #8
    notbob Guest

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    On 2010-06-02, pavane <[email protected]> wrote:
    >


    > but the side effects can be nasty. I agree that he should
    > try it, but he should be cautious and aware. The indigestible
    > components of escolar are well known and real. Mark should
    > be congratulated for asking, not criticized.


    Yeah, yeah, yeah....

    The wiki link he provided made that all abundantly clear. Bottom line
    is, my tummy and your tummy are not his tummy and he can ask every
    person in the known universe and it will do him NO good. Pretty much
    a case of painfully **** or get out of the kitchen, to paraphrase a
    couple unrelated maxims.

    nb

  9. #9
    notbob Guest

    Default Re: Escolar

    On 2010-06-02, gtr <[email protected]> wrote:

    > don't want to eat it. Then there's those like swertz who thinks anyone
    > who won't eat it is a "butt****".....


    Well, I won't go quite that far, but it is pretty stupid to ask how it
    affects everyone else.

    "Hi. I'm a dolt. If I eat a food that makes almost everyone of the
    homo sapien species crap like an Ex-Lax lab rat, will I be adversely
    affected"?

    Duh.

    nb

  10. #10
    spamtrap1888 Guest

    Default Re: Escolar

    On Jun 1, 4:20*pm, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
    > I spotted some escolar at an Asian food store, frozen
    > steaks. *I was tempted to try it, but the Wikipedia
    > entry is a bit scary.
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escolar
    >
    > Although my digestive system seems to be working
    > excellently, I attribute that to avoiding things like
    > this.


    Enjoy some raw candlenuts while you're at it -- a favorite Scout prank
    in Hawaii.

    >
    > To you who have eaten escolar, is it worth the risk?
    > Is it some really great fish that must be tried?


    Nothing's tasty enough to compensate for anal leakage.

  11. #11
    James Silverton Guest

    Default Re: Escolar

    pavane wrote on Tue, 1 Jun 2010 20:56:05 -0400:


    > "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:O0hNn.32757$[email protected]..

    |> On 2010-06-01, Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    |>
    | >> To you who have eaten escolar, is it worth the risk?
    |>
    |> How the heck can anyone else know what your digestive system
    |> can tolerate!?
    |>
    |> YOU eat it and then tell US!!

    > Escolar has a well documented history of digestive
    > problems and GI upset. *In all probability* it will cause
    > similar problems; it tastes good, one of my favorite sushis,
    > but the side effects can be nasty. I agree that he should
    > try it, but he should be cautious and aware. The indigestible
    > components of escolar are well known and real. Mark should
    > be congratulated for asking, not criticized.


    It's a statistic of one of course and unreliable as a general guide but
    I had two pieces of escolar about 1 1/2 x 1 x 1/2 inches in a sushi
    sashimi platter. I asked the chef what it was and he said "white tuna".
    It tasted so good that I actually posted a comment in alt.food.sushi and
    then came down with 24 hours of Montezuma's revenge just afterwards.
    I've never been back to that restaurant.

    --

    James Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

    Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


  12. #12
    Sky Guest

    Default Re: Escolar

    Steve Pope wrote:
    >
    > Might as well get used to eating oilfish anyway.


    Ouch ;D Particularly if it's harvested from the Gulf (of Mexico), eh?!!
    :/

    Sky

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  13. #13
    Nan Guest

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    We have white tuna or escolar on a sashimi platter often at out
    favorite sushi joint. Neither my hubby nor I have ever had any
    problems. It is about 5 pieces 1/3" thich by 2" X 4". The flavor is
    so delicate and good, if it doesn't bother you, it will become a
    favorite. Now in larger quantities, I have no idea, and your gut and
    what it will tolerate is unique to you. You could try an ala carte
    serving of white tuna at a sushi place and see what happens. Our place
    serves 2 slices the size mentioned above for it's ala carte white
    tuna. Good Luck. Nan in DE


  14. #14
    James Silverton Guest

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    Nan wrote on Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:08:56 -0700 (PDT):

    > We have white tuna or escolar on a sashimi platter often at
    > out favorite sushi joint. Neither my hubby nor I have ever had
    > any problems. It is about 5 pieces 1/3" thich by 2" X 4".
    > The flavor is so delicate and good, if it doesn't bother you,
    > it will become a favorite. Now in larger quantities, I have
    > no idea, and your gut and what it will tolerate is unique to
    > you. You could try an ala carte serving of white tuna at a
    > sushi place and see what happens. Our place serves 2 slices
    > the size mentioned above for it's ala carte white tuna. Good
    > Luck. Nan in DE


    I'm glad you can eat it, unlike me and a lot of Japanese. I won't try
    again; once bitten, twice shy.

    --

    James Silverton
    Potomac, Maryland

    Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not


  15. #15
    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Re: Escolar

    James Silverton wrote:
    >
    > It's a statistic of one of course and unreliable as a general guide but
    > I had two pieces of escolar about 1 1/2 x 1 x 1/2 inches in a sushi
    > sashimi platter. I asked the chef what it was and he said "white tuna".
    > It tasted so good that I actually posted a comment in alt.food.sushi and
    > then came down with 24 hours of Montezuma's revenge just afterwards.
    > I've never been back to that restaurant.


    Even if it's just an individual reaction,
    that convinces me not to try it.

  16. #16
    gtr Guest

    Default Re: Escolar

    On 2010-06-02 11:01:00 -0700, Mark Thorson said:

    > James Silverton wrote:
    >>
    >> It's a statistic of one of course and unreliable as a general guide but
    >> I had two pieces of escolar about 1 1/2 x 1 x 1/2 inches in a sushi
    >> sashimi platter. I asked the chef what it was and he said "white tuna".
    >> It tasted so good that I actually posted a comment in alt.food.sushi and
    >> then came down with 24 hours of Montezuma's revenge just afterwards.
    >> I've never been back to that restaurant.

    >
    > Even if it's just an individual reaction,
    > that convinces me not to try it.


    Whatever info you use to make your decisions, it's your choice. I have
    avoided Escolar as a result of the Japanese government banning it as a
    "food substance". This, and the reports others have had of diarrhea.
    Sure, I may not be stricken--but I'd too can avoid both the malady AND
    the fear of malady. Amazingly, there are almost always other things to
    eat then Escolar. If on a desert island with the one fish, I'll eat it
    with gusto!

    On that topic: US has banned Brazilian dende oil (a palm oil) as a
    "food substance". It can, however be imported as a machine oil, but
    can't then be distributed as a non-machine oil. Instead I buy it
    occasionally in the Brazilian shops in LA.

    The last small bottle I got sat in the pantry for about two years
    before I threw it away. Frankly, when I consider making vatapá or
    moqueca I wonder whether I want the additional "labor" inherent to the
    task. Then defer.
    --
    If God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?


  17. #17
    Sqwertz Guest

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    On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 16:28:15 -0700 (PDT), Chemo the Clown wrote:

    > On Jun 1, 4:20*pm, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
    >> I spotted some escolar at an Asian food store, frozen
    >> steaks. *I was tempted to try it, but the Wikipedia
    >> entry is a bit scary.
    >>
    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escolar
    >>
    >> Although my digestive system seems to be working
    >> excellently, I attribute that to avoiding things like
    >> this.
    >>
    >> To you who have eaten escolar, is it worth the risk?
    >> Is it some really great fish that must be tried?

    >
    > Symptoms may include stomach cramps, loose bowel movements, diarrhea,
    > headaches, nausea, and vomiting.
    > I think that's enough to turn me off.


    We had this very long, heated discussion (or at least *I* did)
    about 3 weeks ago. How could you miss the thread?

    (Piggybacking due to killfile)

    -sw

  18. #18
    Sqwertz Guest

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    On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 20:56:05 -0400, pavane wrote:

    > "notbob" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:O0hNn.32757$[email protected]..
    >| On 2010-06-01, Mark Thorson <[email protected]> wrote:
    >|
    >|> To you who have eaten escolar, is it worth the risk?
    >|
    >| How the heck can anyone else know what your digestive system can
    >| tolerate!?
    >|
    >| YOU eat it and then tell US!!
    >
    > Escolar has a well documented history of digestive
    > problems and GI upset. *In all probability* it will cause
    > similar problems; it tastes good, one of my favorite sushis,
    > but the side effects can be nasty. I agree that he should
    > try it, but he should be cautious and aware. The indigestible
    > components of escolar are well known and real. Mark should
    > be congratulated for asking, not criticized.


    He shouldn't be congratulated for bringing it up again after only
    a few weeks of a well-documented thread.

    I've eaten it several- times and have experienced no ill effects.

    -sw

  19. #19
    Sqwertz Guest

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    On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 08:43:16 -0400, James Silverton wrote:

    > It's a statistic of one of course and unreliable as a general guide but
    > I had two pieces of escolar about 1 1/2 x 1 x 1/2 inches in a sushi
    > sashimi platter. I asked the chef what it was and he said "white tuna".
    > It tasted so good that I actually posted a comment in alt.food.sushi and
    > then came down with 24 hours of Montezuma's revenge just afterwards.
    > I've never been back to that restaurant.


    Even you don't remember that you started a long, argumentative
    thread here about it about 4 weeks ago?

    Are you really that brain dead?

    http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...66061bfe?hl=en

    Also note that you already *had* come down with it when you posted
    it.

    -sw

  20. #20
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Escolar

    On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 18:43:55 -0700, gtr wrote:

    > We just had a long tedious battle over it a couple of months ago when I
    > first got here. Many don't want to try it or have tried it, but still
    > don't want to eat it. Then there's those like swertz who thinks anyone
    > who won't eat it is a "butt****" among other enlightening views.


    Was it butt****?

    I was commenting on you're telling people not to eat it, based on
    your never having eaten it. Just like Bob is saying now.

    -sw

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