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  1. #21
    Cheryl Guest

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    On 10/12/2012 1:30 PM, Gary wrote:

    > James Silverton wrote:
    >>
    >> Does anyone know if there is central agency where we can report
    >> commercial cold calls? I am registered for do not call but I still get
    >> them. The latest is from Disney World, which is hardly a charity or a
    >> political party.
    >> --
    >> Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
    >>
    >> Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

    >
    > Screen all calls. that's what I do.
    > Landline phone: answering machine is your friend
    > Cell phone: if they are not on my friend list, I don't answer.



    That's always an option but if people don't file complaints, the FTC
    can't take action. Agree on the cell phone, though, don't answer.


  2. #22
    Pete C. Guest

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    Janet Bostwick wrote:
    >
    > On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:51:28 -0700, "Pico Rico"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > snip
    > >
    > >I do have to wonder why the DNC list seems to have ceased being effective.
    > >It seemed to work wonders when it was first implemented.
    > >

    > The rule is that if you have ever had any legitimate dealings with
    > their company (or subs), they have a legal right to call you. If they
    > are a political affiliation or religious group they can call you. If
    > you ever respond to them, they can claim that you have done business
    > with them. If you respond or call the number they give you to
    > discontinue the calls, you have affirmed that the phone number is a
    > live and good one.
    >
    > The most maddening one is 'Rachel'. She's a computer call and she
    > never gives up. She's the one who calls about better rates for your
    > credit cards. The proper response for a computer call is Just Hang Up.
    > For a live person you say "No, please don't call again, take my name
    > off of your list."
    >
    > The folks claiming to be a tech from Microsoft is a brand new scam
    > that has caught so many people that the Feds have put out an alert
    > citizens. The people claiming to be from your phone company and
    > wanting to sign you up for something or check something will drive you
    > to curses and tears.
    >
    > Basically, unless you have initiated something with a company, you
    > just have to hang up.
    >
    > Thank you. It felt good to get that off my chest. I
    >
    > Janet US


    Much easier to not answer to begin with. If it's important they'll leave
    a message. Nothing is so important it can't wait a few minutes.

  3. #23
    Pete C. Guest

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    MotoFox wrote:
    >
    > I still occasionally get solicitation calls from companies overseas
    > claiming to be my ISP (I'm on CenturyQworst) saying they're receiving
    > "virus reports" from my Windows machine. When I do pick up, I just laugh
    > at them out loud, since both boxes connected to my ADSL box are either
    > Linux or BSD (why in God's name would I dare put a Winblow$ box on the
    > network? I do know better!) and they couldn't be getting any information
    > from my machines since both are firewalled. Damned fools.


    Funny, I have a W2K box that has been on the net 24x365 for 8 years
    without a single issue. The reality is that the OS is only as vulnerable
    as the administrator and if you don't have idiots visiting all manner of
    pirate and social networking sites Windoze rarely has issues.

  4. #24
    sf Guest

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    On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:33:20 -0600, Janet Bostwick
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:51:28 -0700, "Pico Rico"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > snip
    > >
    > >I do have to wonder why the DNC list seems to have ceased being effective.
    > >It seemed to work wonders when it was first implemented.
    > >

    > The rule is that if you have ever had any legitimate dealings with
    > their company (or subs), they have a legal right to call you. If they
    > are a political affiliation or religious group they can call you. If
    > you ever respond to them, they can claim that you have done business
    > with them. If you respond or call the number they give you to
    > discontinue the calls, you have affirmed that the phone number is a
    > live and good one.
    >
    > The most maddening one is 'Rachel'. She's a computer call and she
    > never gives up. She's the one who calls about better rates for your
    > credit cards. The proper response for a computer call is Just Hang Up.
    > For a live person you say "No, please don't call again, take my name
    > off of your list."
    >
    > The folks claiming to be a tech from Microsoft is a brand new scam
    > that has caught so many people that the Feds have put out an alert
    > citizens. The people claiming to be from your phone company and
    > wanting to sign you up for something or check something will drive you
    > to curses and tears.
    >
    > Basically, unless you have initiated something with a company, you
    > just have to hang up.
    >
    > Thank you. It felt good to get that off my chest. I
    >
    > Janet US


    Thank you, Janet. It's amazing how many here are under-informed or
    not informed at all... they have no excuse now.

    --
    I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

  5. #25
    sf Guest

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    On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:49:17 -0400, Dave Smith
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Then there is the "private call" which usually isn't.


    Why are people so compelled to answer the phone, even when they have
    caller ID that doesn't give one? Those are the calls you don't ever
    answer. Otherwise you might as well not pay for caller ID. It's a
    waste of money when you're answering every call anyway.

    --
    I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

  6. #26
    sf Guest

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    On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:28:11 -0400, Cheryl <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > On 10/12/2012 11:05 AM, James Silverton wrote:
    >
    > > Does anyone know if there is central agency where we can report
    > > commercial cold calls? I am registered for do not call but I still get
    > > them. The latest is from Disney World, which is hardly a charity or a
    > > political party.

    >
    > https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov
    > https://complaints.donotcall.gov
    >
    > There's also a call center where you can talk with a live call center
    > rep. The FTC takes this seriously so file your complaints.
    >
    > 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357)
    > http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/contact.shtm


    I've always found that politely asking them to take me off their call
    list works. I bet it wouldn't have worked as well if I acted like the
    jackass some people here have claimed to be.

    --
    I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

  7. #27
    sf Guest

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    On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:30:37 -0400, Gary <[email protected]> wrote:

    > James Silverton wrote:
    > >
    > > Does anyone know if there is central agency where we can report
    > > commercial cold calls? I am registered for do not call but I still get
    > > them. The latest is from Disney World, which is hardly a charity or a
    > > political party.
    > > --
    > > Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
    > >
    > > Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

    >
    > Screen all calls. that's what I do.
    > Landline phone: answering machine is your friend
    > Cell phone: if they are not on my friend list, I don't answer.
    >

    Some people are bullies at heart and take every opportunity to be one
    to strangers. One of my friends was a telephone operator while she
    was going through college and once had to deal with her own father on
    the line. He didn't recognize her voice although she recognized
    his... she said he was swearing and bullying, being a real a**h**e.
    What a jerk.


    --
    I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

  8. #28
    Cheryl Guest

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    On 10/12/2012 7:14 PM, Pete C. wrote:
    >
    > Janet Bostwick wrote:
    >>
    >> On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:51:28 -0700, "Pico Rico"
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> snip
    >>>
    >>> I do have to wonder why the DNC list seems to have ceased being effective.
    >>> It seemed to work wonders when it was first implemented.
    >>>


    I wonder too.

    >> The rule is that if you have ever had any legitimate dealings with
    >> their company (or subs), they have a legal right to call you. If they
    >> are a political affiliation or religious group they can call you. If
    >> you ever respond to them, they can claim that you have done business
    >> with them. If you respond or call the number they give you to
    >> discontinue the calls, you have affirmed that the phone number is a
    >> live and good one.


    You can still tell those who you've done business with, charities, etc,
    to take you off of their lists. Politicians, no idea. Nothing works
    with them and most of them are recordings, too.

    >>
    >> The most maddening one is 'Rachel'. She's a computer call and she
    >> never gives up. She's the one who calls about better rates for your
    >> credit cards. The proper response for a computer call is Just Hang Up.
    >> For a live person you say "No, please don't call again, take my name
    >> off of your list."


    The frustrating thing about "Rachel" is that if you select the option on
    your phone to talk to a rep, as soon as you say to stop calling, they
    hang up. The numeric option to take you off their list does the same
    thing. I have just listed all of the recent calls from Credit Card
    Services in the last couple of weeks and am going to file complaints. I
    work for the contractor and directly deal with the FTC on the DNC
    registration database so sometimes I answer just to tell these
    telemarketers just that, and can never get a live person on the phone.
    They're really getting out of control lately!

    >>
    >> The folks claiming to be a tech from Microsoft is a brand new scam
    >> that has caught so many people that the Feds have put out an alert
    >> citizens. The people claiming to be from your phone company and
    >> wanting to sign you up for something or check something will drive you
    >> to curses and tears.


    I haven't heard about that one. Will have to do some checking.

    >>
    >> Basically, unless you have initiated something with a company, you
    >> just have to hang up.
    >>
    >> Thank you. It felt good to get that off my chest. I
    >>
    >> Janet US

    >
    > Much easier to not answer to begin with. If it's important they'll leave
    > a message. Nothing is so important it can't wait a few minutes.
    >



  9. #29
    MaryL Guest

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    "Dave Smith" wrote in message news:_71es.41445$[email protected]..

    On 12/10/2012 1:02 PM, MaryL wrote:

    > I registered on donotcall.gov. That greatly reduced the number of
    > "junk" calls but did not eliminate them. I also screen my calls and do
    > not answer unless I recognize the name or number. I never pick up and
    > dial "1" because that just shows it is an active number.
    >


    I have a small problem there. I have call display and some of them show
    up as Long Distance, Problem is that we have a long distance plan
    through Bell and I gave our son a card so he can call us on it.

    Then there is the "private call" which usually isn't.

    ~~~~~~~~~~
    I have an answering machine, so I always assume that anyone who really wants
    to speak to me will leave a message. If it is someone I know (but whose
    name did not show up on caller ID), I can immediately pick up the phone.

    MaryL


  10. #30
    Dave Smith Guest

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    On 12/10/2012 9:14 PM, MaryL wrote:

    > I have an answering machine, so I always assume that anyone who really
    > wants to speak to me will leave a message. If it is someone I know (but
    > whose name did not show up on caller ID), I can immediately pick up the
    > phone.



    I have call display and call answer. Every once in a while I return home
    and see that my brother has called three or four times.... but no message.



  11. #31
    Cheryl Guest

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    On 10/12/2012 8:55 PM, sf wrote:
    > On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:28:11 -0400, Cheryl <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> On 10/12/2012 11:05 AM, James Silverton wrote:
    >>
    >>> Does anyone know if there is central agency where we can report
    >>> commercial cold calls? I am registered for do not call but I still get
    >>> them. The latest is from Disney World, which is hardly a charity or a
    >>> political party.

    >>
    >> https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov
    >> https://complaints.donotcall.gov
    >>
    >> There's also a call center where you can talk with a live call center
    >> rep. The FTC takes this seriously so file your complaints.
    >>
    >> 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357)
    >> http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/contact.shtm

    >
    > I've always found that politely asking them to take me off their call
    > list works. I bet it wouldn't have worked as well if I acted like the
    > jackass some people here have claimed to be.
    >


    With some of them lately it doesn't work at all, and some don't even
    give you the option. Those are the law breakers.


  12. #32
    Dave Smith Guest

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    On 12/10/2012 8:55 PM, sf wrote:

    >
    > I've always found that politely asking them to take me off their call
    > list works. I bet it wouldn't have worked as well if I acted like the
    > jackass some people here have claimed to be.
    >


    I have found that some of the callers will stop if you ask them to take
    you off their list. Others say they will take you off, but theey keep
    calling. Then there are those that give you the option to press a button
    to be taken off their list and those guys usually keep calling.

  13. #33
    sf Guest

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    On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:56:14 -0400, Dave Smith
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 12/10/2012 8:55 PM, sf wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > I've always found that politely asking them to take me off their call
    > > list works. I bet it wouldn't have worked as well if I acted like the
    > > jackass some people here have claimed to be.
    > >

    >
    > I have found that some of the callers will stop if you ask them to take
    > you off their list. Others say they will take you off, but theey keep
    > calling.


    It's not instant, you have to give them a few months - or at least
    that's the way it used to be.

    > Then there are those that give you the option to press a button
    > to be taken off their list and those guys usually keep calling.


    Too bad they've gotten so aggressive. I haven't had a landline in
    years and I am careful about who has my cellphone number, so I don't
    get annoying calls from strangers anymore.


    --
    I take life with a grain of salt, a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila

  14. #34
    MotoFox Guest

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    And it came to pass that Pete C. delivered the following message unto the
    people, saying~

    > Funny, I have a W2K box that has been on the net 24x365 for 8 years
    > without a single issue. The reality is that the OS is only as vulnerable
    > as the administrator and if you don't have idiots visiting all manner of
    > pirate and social networking sites Windoze rarely has issues.


    Individual results may vary, you know......

  15. #35
    Ed Pawlowski Guest

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    On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 11:33:20 -0600, Janet Bostwick
    <[email protected]> wrote:



    >
    >The most maddening one is 'Rachel'. She's a computer call and she
    >never gives up. She's the one who calls about better rates for your
    >credit cards. The proper response for a computer call is Just Hang Up.
    >For a live person you say "No, please don't call again, take my name
    >off of your list."


    I've played with the CC callers a couple of times. They start asking
    me about what cards I have and I give them tens of thousands of
    dollars of debt at 29.9% interest rates and income of $12,000. They
    just keep taking the information.

    Or the extended car warranty I told them I just bought a '91 Buick for
    $3500 and think the warranty may be a good idea for it. I could hear
    the guy choke back the laughter but he kept trying to make the sale.

  16. #36
    Ed Pawlowski Guest

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    On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:53:15 -0700, sf <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:49:17 -0400, Dave Smith
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Then there is the "private call" which usually isn't.

    >
    >Why are people so compelled to answer the phone, even when they have
    >caller ID that doesn't give one? Those are the calls you don't ever
    >answer. Otherwise you might as well not pay for caller ID. It's a
    >waste of money when you're answering every call anyway.



    It depends. We've received calls from IDs that we did not recognize
    and they were from a doctor or medical office that we needed to hear
    from.

    Same with junk mail. When I approached 65, every insurance company in
    North America was sending me information about Medicare. I tossed
    most, but Met Life sent me another letter. Turns out, it was money
    from a pension for a company (long out of business) that I worked for
    in the 1960s. Caaaaaching!

  17. #37
    gregz Guest

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    "Pete C." <[email protected]> wrote:
    > MotoFox wrote:
    >>
    >> I still occasionally get solicitation calls from companies overseas
    >> claiming to be my ISP (I'm on CenturyQworst) saying they're receiving
    >> "virus reports" from my Windows machine. When I do pick up, I just laugh
    >> at them out loud, since both boxes connected to my ADSL box are either
    >> Linux or BSD (why in God's name would I dare put a Winblow$ box on the
    >> network? I do know better!) and they couldn't be getting any information
    >> from my machines since both are firewalled. Damned fools.

    >
    > Funny, I have a W2K box that has been on the net 24x365 for 8 years
    > without a single issue. The reality is that the OS is only as vulnerable
    > as the administrator and if you don't have idiots visiting all manner of
    > pirate and social networking sites Windoze rarely has issues.


    I recall there was a big mess 8 years ago at work on 2k. It came the wrong
    time as my boss was on my case.

    Greg

  18. #38
    Polly Esther Guest

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    The 'better interest rate' calls here have been just waaay too much. We get
    calls from family and friends whose caller id really don't identify and
    don't want to miss an important call. Such as - the heart center called to
    reschedule an important and caller id didn't help at all.
    I've tried reporting and assorted other responses. Now. I have the
    time and the anger. What have you done that will cause the caller the most
    annoyance? I need revenge. Do I lead them on with questions and vague
    answers? Punching 1 and putting the phone aside is a bit of fun - it
    probably ties up their progress for a couple of minutes. I would like to be
    a real nuisance.


  19. #39
    Julie Bove Guest

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    "James Silverton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:k59bjf$q0o$[email protected]..
    > Does anyone know if there is central agency where we can report commercial
    > cold calls? I am registered for do not call but I still get them. The
    > latest is from Disney World, which is hardly a charity or a political
    > party.
    > --
    > Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
    >
    > Extraneous "not" in Reply To.


    Yes. I just looked this up. File the complaint here:

    https://www.donotcall.gov/

    But first! Think about it. Did you perhaps enter a contest or something
    like that where they would have gotten your number?



  20. #40
    Julie Bove Guest

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    "Dave Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:WDWds.45947$[email protected]..
    > On 12/10/2012 11:05 AM, James Silverton wrote:
    >> Does anyone know if there is central agency where we can report
    >> commercial cold calls? I am registered for do not call but I still get
    >> them. The latest is from Disney World, which is hardly a charity or a
    >> political party.

    >
    >
    > I have been registered with the Do Not Call registry since it first
    > started. I was getting an outrageous number of calls. Every once in a
    > while I started getting calls from people who introduces themselves with
    > a very Anglo name but who have strong sub continent accents. They claim
    > to be calling from my ISP and say they are getting a lot of virus alerts
    > from my computer. I have tried hanging up, calling them liars, yelling
    > and screaming at them. The calls kept coming. I decided to have fun with
    > them. I try to make conversation with them, play dumb, carry on for as
    > long as I can. I was able to keep them on the line for up to 10 minutes,
    > which I figure saves some other poor saps from being hassled. I think they
    > gave up on my number.
    >
    >
    > In Canada, you can contact the CRTC to register complaints. I have done
    > it. I don't know if there were any charges laid in that case, but the
    > calls did stop.


    I have gotten that same damned call. This is Mumbai calling from Microsoft
    Windows! The guy sounds like he is calling from India but it's a Texas
    phone number. I reported him to the FTC and told him as such but the ass
    called back FOUR more times! I was like... Uh... You know that I LIVE in
    the area where Microsoft is? And you KNOW that I KNOW people who work
    there! Microsoft doesn't DO that! He still persisted. Gah!

    The latest ones are calls for my husband who no longer lives here. They are
    bogus sounding charities.



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