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  1. #1
    atec7 7 Guest

    Default Diabetic ?

    It was announced yesterday that a drug currently in use here in Au for
    reducing copper levels in blood has been found to alter the amount of a
    blood borne protein which in diabetics is about 20% of normal .
    Currently going into human tests shortly this drug by restoring blood
    proteins effectively eliminates type II consequences with a simple
    daily pill restoring life to normal
    Time will tell but this Sunday on Au tv there will be an short
    programme about this drug .

  2. #2
    Nancy Young Guest

    Default Re: Diabetic ?

    atec7 7" <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com wrote:
    > It was announced yesterday that a drug currently in use here in Au for
    > reducing copper levels in blood has been found to alter the amount of
    > a blood borne protein which in diabetics is about 20% of normal .
    > Currently going into human tests shortly this drug by restoring blood
    > proteins effectively eliminates type II consequences with a simple
    > daily pill restoring life to normal
    > Time will tell but this Sunday on Au tv there will be an short
    > programme about this drug .


    Along the same lines, yesterday I read that bariatric weight loss
    surgery does the same thing. Go figure. It's not related to the
    lost weight.

    nancy

  3. #3
    Paul M. Cook Guest

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    "atec7 7" <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
    news:hs145s$7cc$1@news.eternal-september.[email protected]..
    > It was announced yesterday that a drug currently in use here in Au for
    > reducing copper levels in blood has been found to alter the amount of a
    > blood borne protein which in diabetics is about 20% of normal . Currently
    > going into human tests shortly this drug by restoring blood proteins
    > effectively eliminates type II consequences with a simple daily pill
    > restoring life to normal
    > Time will tell but this Sunday on Au tv there will be an short programme
    > about this drug .



    This is the US. Expect a 20 year study in order to protect drug industry
    profits.

    Paul



  4. #4
    atec7 7 Guest

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    Paul M. Cook wrote:
    > "atec7 7" <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
    > news:hs145s$7cc$[email protected]..
    >> It was announced yesterday that a drug currently in use here in Au for
    >> reducing copper levels in blood has been found to alter the amount of a
    >> blood borne protein which in diabetics is about 20% of normal . Currently
    >> going into human tests shortly this drug by restoring blood proteins
    >> effectively eliminates type II consequences with a simple daily pill
    >> restoring life to normal
    >> Time will tell but this Sunday on Au tv there will be an short programme
    >> about this drug .

    >
    >
    > This is the US. Expect a 20 year study in order to protect drug industry
    > profits.
    >
    > Paul
    >
    >

    Once the drug is tested ( if not before) people will use it anyway as
    you can't stifle sharing knowledge
    this should offer more information after the program is shown tomorrow

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/video/national although being shown on the
    Brisbane local I expect it will appear here on the national

  5. #5
    Paul M. Cook Guest

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    "atec7 7" <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
    news:hs2hn6$sov$[email protected]..
    > Paul M. Cook wrote:
    >> "atec7 7" <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
    >> news:hs145s$7cc$[email protected]..
    >>> It was announced yesterday that a drug currently in use here in Au for
    >>> reducing copper levels in blood has been found to alter the amount of a
    >>> blood borne protein which in diabetics is about 20% of normal .
    >>> Currently going into human tests shortly this drug by restoring blood
    >>> proteins effectively eliminates type II consequences with a simple
    >>> daily pill restoring life to normal
    >>> Time will tell but this Sunday on Au tv there will be an short
    >>> programme about this drug .

    >>
    >>
    >> This is the US. Expect a 20 year study in order to protect drug industry
    >> profits.
    >>
    >> Paul

    > Once the drug is tested ( if not before) people will use it anyway as you
    > can't stifle sharing knowledge
    > this should offer more information after the program is shown tomorrow
    >
    > http://au.news.yahoo.com/video/national although being shown on the
    > Brisbane local I expect it will appear here on the national


    There is really more politics than science behind who gets to sell what in
    the US market.
    There are lots of drugs approved in other countries that are not approved
    here. Some for health concerns, others for patent concerns. Or the foreign
    drug would undercut a much more expensive US drug. It took 25 years for
    ulcer therapy common in Europe to be approved here in the US. Why? Well
    the makers of all those anti-acid drugs wanted to protect their market. Had
    nothing to do with health at all.

    Paul



  6. #6
    atec7 7 Guest

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    Paul M. Cook wrote:
    > "atec7 7" <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
    > news:hs2hn6$sov$[email protected]..
    >> Paul M. Cook wrote:
    >>> "atec7 7" <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
    >>> news:hs145s$7cc$[email protected]..
    >>>> It was announced yesterday that a drug currently in use here in Au for
    >>>> reducing copper levels in blood has been found to alter the amount of a
    >>>> blood borne protein which in diabetics is about 20% of normal .
    >>>> Currently going into human tests shortly this drug by restoring blood
    >>>> proteins effectively eliminates type II consequences with a simple
    >>>> daily pill restoring life to normal
    >>>> Time will tell but this Sunday on Au tv there will be an short
    >>>> programme about this drug .
    >>>
    >>> This is the US. Expect a 20 year study in order to protect drug industry
    >>> profits.
    >>>
    >>> Paul

    >> Once the drug is tested ( if not before) people will use it anyway as you
    >> can't stifle sharing knowledge
    >> this should offer more information after the program is shown tomorrow
    >>
    >> http://au.news.yahoo.com/video/national although being shown on the
    >> Brisbane local I expect it will appear here on the national

    >
    > There is really more politics than science behind who gets to sell what in
    > the US market.
    > There are lots of drugs approved in other countries that are not approved
    > here. Some for health concerns, others for patent concerns. Or the foreign
    > drug would undercut a much more expensive US drug. It took 25 years for
    > ulcer therapy common in Europe to be approved here in the US. Why? Well
    > the makers of all those anti-acid drugs wanted to protect their market. Had
    > nothing to do with health at all.
    >
    > Paul
    >
    >

    he drug in question has already been approved in the US for other things
    so it certainly won stop the flood of use once he word is out
    We have the same thing here with certain medicine like surgery
    methodology

  7. #7
    Boron Elgar Guest

    Default Re: Diabetic ?

    On Fri, 7 May 2010 21:04:34 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >There are lots of drugs approved in other countries that are not approved
    >here. Some for health concerns, others for patent concerns. Or the foreign
    >drug would undercut a much more expensive US drug. It took 25 years for
    >ulcer therapy common in Europe to be approved here in the US. Why? Well
    >the makers of all those anti-acid drugs wanted to protect their market. Had
    >nothing to do with health at all.
    >
    >Paul
    >

    You are a raving loon and a bull****ing liar.

    You've posted about this ulcer idiocy before, I have refuted it before
    and I will do so again, simply by quoting my previous reply to you
    previous conspiracy theory, tinfoil hat foolishness.

    I despise ignorant idiots, so here goes - your previous posts are
    indicated as such by the newsreader, jerkoff...last time you mumbled
    about 30 years rather than 25.....



    ************************************************** ****************************
    The sentence" a thirty-year-old study which proved ulcers were a viral
    infection ..." Was quoted. Since the "proof" came in 1982, a study 30
    years earlier would have been 1952. The patent for tetracycline was
    issued in 1955.

    Treatment is complicated, even today. You may refer to the link below
    to see more than my quote:

    'H. pylori peptic ulcers are treated with drugs that kill the
    bacteria, reduce stomach acid, and protect the stomach lining.
    Antibiotics are used to kill the bacteria. Two types of
    acid-suppressing drugs might be used: H2 blockers and proton pump
    inhibitors.'

    http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddise...ubs/hpylori/#8

    >And the whole reason it took so long for this to become a common treatment
    >is that the drug companies were very effective in suppressing any research
    >that would have led to treatments not involving their very expensive
    >medications. It is not a coincidence that ulcer cures were finally approved
    >in this country when patents for ulcer drugs like Zantac ran out and the
    >meds were sold over the counter.


    Bull****. Provide citations or zip it. Ranitidine was still in patent
    when antibiotics were being used for certain ulcers.

    >Cures are not nearly so profitable as the disease. Keep the patient sick by
    >only treating symptoms and you have a customer for life. That is the way it
    >works in this country and many others. Not to digress too far but this is
    >also why marijuana is a long way from being legally prescribed despite it
    >having proven and valuable therapuetic properties. It's just too cheap to
    >make, it's just a simple plant and you can't patent it.


    Do you really think there is collusion among all the medical
    researchers, the govts of the world and the big pharmas to suppress
    cures for things like cancer, diabetes, AIDS, and heart disease?

    I dun thin so, Lucy.

    But have yourself a jolly ride in a black helicopter.

    Boron

  8. #8
    Paul M. Cook Guest

    Default Re: Diabetic ?


    "Boron Elgar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > On Fri, 7 May 2010 21:04:34 -0700, "Paul M. Cook" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>There are lots of drugs approved in other countries that are not approved
    >>here. Some for health concerns, others for patent concerns. Or the
    >>foreign
    >>drug would undercut a much more expensive US drug. It took 25 years for
    >>ulcer therapy common in Europe to be approved here in the US. Why? Well
    >>the makers of all those anti-acid drugs wanted to protect their market.
    >>Had
    >>nothing to do with health at all.
    >>
    >>Paul
    >>

    > You are a raving loon and a bull****ing liar.
    >
    > You've posted about this ulcer idiocy before, I have refuted it before
    > and I will do so again, simply by quoting my previous reply to you
    > previous conspiracy theory, tinfoil hat foolishness.


    You cannot refute the fact that the FDA is in bed with big pharma. You
    cannot dispute the fact that there are very good foreign made drugs that are
    banned here because they would affect the profits of treasured corporations.
    You cannot dispute that the FDA won't even all REIMPORTAION of domestically
    made drugs back into the US and they cite "safety concerns." You can't
    dispute jack ****. You cannot dispute the fact that big drug companies have
    bought research data and patents from smaller companies with promising CURES
    and locked them away forever. You would however dispute that multi-billion
    dollar corporations who hire thousands of lobbyists would never buy favors
    from politicians - such as the one who control the FDA? You attend a few
    tea party rallies, do ya? Cures are not profitable. The disease is a cash
    cow that never dies. Look at the diabetes "industry" now. It's worth
    billions. Test strips cost 50 cents a piece but cost a buck per thousand to
    make. You really want to think Bayer will just give that up without a
    fight?

    It only sound "tinfoil hat" to somebody who probably gets their news from
    Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh and reads World Net Daily while waiting for the
    rapture.

    > I despise ignorant idiots, so here goes - your previous posts are
    > indicated as such by the newsreader, jerkoff...last time you mumbled
    > about 30 years rather than 25.....


    They really annoy me too. Ignorant assholes, too. Mindless, bottom feeding
    pond scum, wingnuts, pig ignorant fools ... the list goes on.. So my
    newsreader makes me an idiot? Yeah, whatever, Einstein. I guess only cool
    people use Forte Agent Version 5? All the others probably emit secret rays
    to poison your precious bodily fluids and make you vote liberal? Lemme
    guess, Linux? Ooooohhhhh, Mac? ****ing idiot. I have truly heard it all.
    If you need help operating the killfile feature, I can help.

    Oh, it's Boron ELZAR. Not Elgar.

    Paul



  9. #9
    Paul M. Cook Guest

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    "atec7 7" <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
    news:hs2sqb$dup$[email protected]..
    > Paul M. Cook wrote:
    >> "atec7 7" <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
    >> news:hs2hn6$sov$[email protected]..
    >>> Paul M. Cook wrote:
    >>>> "atec7 7" <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
    >>>> news:hs145s$7cc$[email protected]..
    >>>>> It was announced yesterday that a drug currently in use here in Au for
    >>>>> reducing copper levels in blood has been found to alter the amount of
    >>>>> a blood borne protein which in diabetics is about 20% of normal .
    >>>>> Currently going into human tests shortly this drug by restoring blood
    >>>>> proteins effectively eliminates type II consequences with a simple
    >>>>> daily pill restoring life to normal
    >>>>> Time will tell but this Sunday on Au tv there will be an short
    >>>>> programme about this drug .
    >>>>
    >>>> This is the US. Expect a 20 year study in order to protect drug
    >>>> industry profits.
    >>>>
    >>>> Paul
    >>> Once the drug is tested ( if not before) people will use it anyway as
    >>> you can't stifle sharing knowledge
    >>> this should offer more information after the program is shown tomorrow
    >>>
    >>> http://au.news.yahoo.com/video/national although being shown on the
    >>> Brisbane local I expect it will appear here on the national

    >>
    >> There is really more politics than science behind who gets to sell what
    >> in the US market.
    >> There are lots of drugs approved in other countries that are not approved
    >> here. Some for health concerns, others for patent concerns. Or the
    >> foreign drug would undercut a much more expensive US drug. It took 25
    >> years for ulcer therapy common in Europe to be approved here in the US.
    >> Why? Well the makers of all those anti-acid drugs wanted to protect
    >> their market. Had nothing to do with health at all.
    >>
    >> Paul

    > he drug in question has already been approved in the US for other things
    > so it certainly won stop the flood of use once he word is out
    > We have the same thing here with certain medicine like surgery
    > methodology.


    Trust me, even if it doesn't I will fly to Australia to get some.

    Paul



  10. #10
    atec7 7 Guest

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    Paul M. Cook wrote:
    > "atec7 7" <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
    > news:hs2sqb$dup$[email protected]..
    >> Paul M. Cook wrote:
    >>> "atec7 7" <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
    >>> news:hs2hn6$sov$[email protected]..
    >>>> Paul M. Cook wrote:
    >>>>> "atec7 7" <""atec77\"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:hs145s$7cc$[email protected]..
    >>>>>> It was announced yesterday that a drug currently in use here in Au for
    >>>>>> reducing copper levels in blood has been found to alter the amount of
    >>>>>> a blood borne protein which in diabetics is about 20% of normal .
    >>>>>> Currently going into human tests shortly this drug by restoring blood
    >>>>>> proteins effectively eliminates type II consequences with a simple
    >>>>>> daily pill restoring life to normal
    >>>>>> Time will tell but this Sunday on Au tv there will be an short
    >>>>>> programme about this drug .
    >>>>> This is the US. Expect a 20 year study in order to protect drug
    >>>>> industry profits.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Paul
    >>>> Once the drug is tested ( if not before) people will use it anyway as
    >>>> you can't stifle sharing knowledge
    >>>> this should offer more information after the program is shown tomorrow
    >>>>
    >>>> http://au.news.yahoo.com/video/national although being shown on the
    >>>> Brisbane local I expect it will appear here on the national
    >>> There is really more politics than science behind who gets to sell what
    >>> in the US market.
    >>> There are lots of drugs approved in other countries that are not approved
    >>> here. Some for health concerns, others for patent concerns. Or the
    >>> foreign drug would undercut a much more expensive US drug. It took 25
    >>> years for ulcer therapy common in Europe to be approved here in the US.
    >>> Why? Well the makers of all those anti-acid drugs wanted to protect
    >>> their market. Had nothing to do with health at all.
    >>>
    >>> Paul

    >> he drug in question has already been approved in the US for other things
    >> so it certainly won stop the flood of use once he word is out
    >> We have the same thing here with certain medicine like surgery
    >> methodology.

    >
    > Trust me, even if it doesn't I will fly to Australia to get some.
    >
    > Paul
    >
    >

    If your Dr has a clue then he will be able to prescribe it as it is
    available in the US however watch for more information as it becomes
    available as it appears there is something else on the horizon as the
    local ch7 is running the question
    " A cure for Diabetes ?
    watch Sunday 6:30 pm news for the answers"
    during peak viewing times

  11. #11
    Dan Abel Guest

    Default Re: Diabetic ?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Boron Elgar <[email protected]> wrote:



    > But have yourself a jolly ride in a black helicopter.


    How much per hour? I've always wanted to ride in one of those.

    :-)

    --
    Dan Abel
    Petaluma, California USA
    [email protected]

  12. #12
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Diabetic ?

    On Wed, 26 May 2010 07:20:50 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Boron Elgar <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> But have yourself a jolly ride in a black helicopter.

    >
    > How much per hour? I've always wanted to ride in one of those.
    >
    > :-)


    will there be machine guns?

    your pal,
    blake

  13. #13
    Boron Elgar Guest

    Default Re: Diabetic ?

    On Wed, 26 May 2010 13:53:10 -0400, blake murphy
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Wed, 26 May 2010 07:20:50 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:
    >
    >> In article <[email protected]>,
    >> Boron Elgar <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> But have yourself a jolly ride in a black helicopter.

    >>
    >> How much per hour? I've always wanted to ride in one of those.
    >>
    >> :-)

    >
    >will there be machine guns?
    >
    >your pal,
    >blake


    Ms Saigon will ride shotgun.

  14. #14
    Dan Abel Guest

    Default Re: Diabetic ?

    In article <1a43q2rwvdp7f.1fe0vfk7jpo7f$.[email protected]>,
    blake murphy <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Wed, 26 May 2010 07:20:50 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:
    >
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > Boron Elgar <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> But have yourself a jolly ride in a black helicopter.

    > >
    > > How much per hour? I've always wanted to ride in one of those.
    > >
    > > :-)

    >
    > will there be machine guns?


    And if so, how much per hour, or do you pay by the round?

    --
    Dan Abel
    Petaluma, California USA
    [email protected]

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