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  1. #1
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Dark Treacle

    Never go to a new gourmet/gadget store with a couple too many beers
    in you. Besides spending about $64 on 4 beers, I ended up with some
    dark treacle as well.

    My motto is buy now, ask later. This is how I learned to cook Asian
    stuff, especially.

    Are there any savory dishes using dark treacle? I'm really not into
    baking or sweets, but maybe \I could make some gingersnaps or
    something.

    I assume it's just basically molasses, but I haven't opened it yet.
    And I really don't like molasses.

    -sw

  2. #2
    Mark Thorson Guest

    Default Re: Dark Treacle

    Sqwertz wrote:
    >
    > Never go to a new gourmet/gadget store with a couple too many beers
    > in you. Besides spending about $64 on 4 beers, I ended up with some
    > dark treacle as well.


    Whoa! Could you say a bit more about that?
    What kind of beer is that expensive?

  3. #3
    Doug Freyburger Guest

    Default Re: Dark Treacle

    Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
    > Sqwertz wrote:
    >
    > > Never go to a new gourmet/gadget store with a couple too many beers
    > > in you. *Besides spending about $64 on 4 beers, I ended up with some
    > > dark treacle as well.

    >
    > Whoa! *Could you say a bit more about that?
    > What kind of beer is that expensive?


    The finest Belgian ales brewed in abbeys by Trappist monks
    who devote their lives to the glory of God through brewing
    ale. This week I spent $43 US on 3 different Trappist ales
    (other than Chimay. I love Chimay so I want to try the other
    abbeys) so 4 at $64 US is about the same pattern. That
    or some of the finest from Normandy (I'd rather have a very
    nice dark hard cider from Normandy, though).

    I tend to drink 1 maybe 2 alcoholic drinks in a week. Mostly
    beers or ales with about a third of those my own home brew.
    If I'm only having 1 in an entire week, I want it to be the best
    ale I could find. At $16 US a pop, it better be really-really
    good. I'm thinking the gold label Chimay Tripel that comes
    in 750 ml bottles that are like a champange bottle complete
    with wire basket.

    Dark treacle? Treacle is a sweet related to molasses, right?
    I think Lyle's Golden Syrup is light treacle, so dark treacle is
    like that but more intense and a bit more smokey tasting?
    Use like molasses I think.

    For someone who isn't wheat intolerant some dark brown
    gooey cookies or a sweet bread that's baked like a banana
    bread.

    For wheat intolerant folks like me I think use it in place of
    molasses in some slow baked beans. Soak navy beans over
    night. Navy beans, dice a couple of onions, dice some
    country ham or slab bacon, dust in some mustard and dried
    ginger, add the treacle, top with water. Bake low and slow
    but uncover the last couple of hours so it does not come out
    looking like a crockpot recipe. Serve with an ale so good it
    cost $16 US per wine bottle sized portion.

  4. #4
    Chemiker Guest

    Default Re: Dark Treacle

    On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:21:17 -0500, Sqwertz
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Never go to a new gourmet/gadget store with a couple too many beers
    >in you. Besides spending about $64 on 4 beers, I ended up with some
    >dark treacle as well.
    >
    >My motto is buy now, ask later. This is how I learned to cook Asian
    >stuff, especially.
    >
    >Are there any savory dishes using dark treacle? I'm really not into
    >baking or sweets, but maybe \I could make some gingersnaps or
    >something.
    >
    >I assume it's just basically molasses, but I haven't opened it yet.
    >And I really don't like molasses.
    >

    Hey, guy..... maybe you missed the post.

    1/2 bottle Goya bitter orange marinade, 1/4 cup
    molasses (or dark treacle), 2-3 TBs frozen OJ
    concentrate. Marinate and baste baby back pork
    or Beef ribs. Or pork shoulder. Or smoked chops.

    You're OK here. That stuff keeps well and makes
    a beautiful glaze. See my post on a.b.food.

    Alex

  5. #5
    Zeppo Guest

    Default Re: Dark Treacle


    "Doug Freyburger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
    > Sqwertz wrote:
    >
    > > Never go to a new gourmet/gadget store with a couple too many beers
    > > in you. Besides spending about $64 on 4 beers, I ended up with some
    > > dark treacle as well.

    >
    > Whoa! Could you say a bit more about that?
    > What kind of beer is that expensive?


    The finest Belgian ales brewed in abbeys by Trappist monks
    who devote their lives to the glory of God through brewing
    ale. This week I spent $43 US on 3 different Trappist ales
    (other than Chimay. I love Chimay so I want to try the other
    abbeys) so 4 at $64 US is about the same pattern. That
    or some of the finest from Normandy (I'd rather have a very
    nice dark hard cider from Normandy, though).

    I tend to drink 1 maybe 2 alcoholic drinks in a week. Mostly
    beers or ales with about a third of those my own home brew.
    If I'm only having 1 in an entire week, I want it to be the best
    ale I could find. At $16 US a pop, it better be really-really
    good. I'm thinking the gold label Chimay Tripel that comes
    in 750 ml bottles that are like a champange bottle complete
    with wire basket.

    Hi Doug,
    I've been a big fan of Grimmbergen Ale for some time now. A more affordable
    alternative to Chamay. I love Chamay, but can actually afford to buy a case
    of Grimm.

    Jon



  6. #6
    Victor Sack Guest

    Default Re: Dark Treacle

    Zeppo <[email protected]> wrote:

    > This week I spent $43 US on 3 different Trappist ales
    > (other than Chimay. I love Chimay so I want to try the other
    > abbeys) so 4 at $64 US is about the same pattern.


    You are being ripped off on a grand scale. Here in Germany (even in
    Düsseldorf, just 80 km from the Belgian border), Belgian beers such as
    Chimay cost rather more than in Belgium, because there is hardly any
    market for them. Yet, they still cost "only" about 5 euros or a bit
    more for a 750-ml bottle here, i.e. 20-21 euros for 4 bottles. Since
    the actual buying power of the euro and the dollar is roughly
    comparable, you end up paying more than three times as much. Even if
    one were to use the current exchange rate (ca. 1.42 dollars to the
    euro), it would be just $28-29, still less than half of what you are
    paying. Considering that many other similar imported products are sold
    in the USA for not significantly more than in Europe, transport costs
    ought not to be a major factor. Even if one were to consider this a
    particular market segment with its own rules and conditions, it is still
    a major rip-off.

    Victor

  7. #7
    blake murphy Guest

    Default Re: Dark Treacle

    On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:21:17 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

    > Never go to a new gourmet/gadget store with a couple too many beers
    > in you. Besides spending about $64 on 4 beers, I ended up with some
    > dark treacle as well.
    >
    > My motto is buy now, ask later. This is how I learned to cook Asian
    > stuff, especially.
    >
    > Are there any savory dishes using dark treacle? I'm really not into
    > baking or sweets, but maybe \I could make some gingersnaps or
    > something.
    >
    > I assume it's just basically molasses, but I haven't opened it yet.
    > And I really don't like molasses.
    >
    > -sw


    i think you'd be correct in using it like molasses in marinades and such.

    your pal,
    blake

  8. #8
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Dark Treacle

    On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:31:35 -0700, Mark Thorson wrote:

    > Sqwertz wrote:
    >>
    >> Never go to a new gourmet/gadget store with a couple too many beers
    >> in you. Besides spending about $64 on 4 beers, I ended up with some
    >> dark treacle as well.

    >
    > Whoa! Could you say a bit more about that?
    > What kind of beer is that expensive?


    4 corked Belgian ales (750ml bottles - about 24oz).

    -sw

  9. #9
    Sqwertz Guest

    Default Re: Dark Treacle

    On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:25:22 -0400, Zeppo wrote:

    > Hi Doug,
    > I've been a big fan of Grimmbergen Ale for some time now. A more affordable
    > alternative to Chamay. I love Chamay, but can actually afford to buy a case
    > of Grimm.


    Grimmbergen Dubbel and Triple are a couple of my favorites, at least
    when I was first trying Belgian Ales. I can't get them here in TX
    so I haven't had one for 9+ years.

    -sw

  10. #10
    Arri London Guest

    Default Re: Dark Treacle



    Sqwertz wrote:
    >
    > Never go to a new gourmet/gadget store with a couple too many beers
    > in you. Besides spending about $64 on 4 beers, I ended up with some
    > dark treacle as well.
    >
    > My motto is buy now, ask later. This is how I learned to cook Asian
    > stuff, especially.
    >
    > Are there any savory dishes using dark treacle? I'm really not into
    > baking or sweets, but maybe \I could make some gingersnaps or
    > something.
    >
    > I assume it's just basically molasses, but I haven't opened it yet.
    > And I really don't like molasses.
    >
    > -sw


    Mix the treacle with some soy sauce and use it to marinate pork for
    roasting/smoking.
    Make baked beans with it.
    Use it to cure bacon.
    Treacle tart or parkin.

    Add it to light soy sauce to emulate dark soy sauce

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