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  1. #1
    Christopher M. Guest

    Default Cream Sauce Misgivings

    I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.

    I think sometimes cream sauces are just too sweet, and they need some pepper
    to make them more savory.


    W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)



  2. #2
    merryb Guest

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    On Oct 3, 2:42*pm, "Christopher M." <nospam_flibb...@floo.com> wrote:
    > I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.
    >
    > I think sometimes cream sauces are just too sweet, and they need some pepper
    > to make them more savory.
    >
    > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)


    Again, you are correct.

  3. #3
    Kent Brockman Guest

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    On 3-Oct-2011, "Christopher M." <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.


    Will you be compiling and publishing a book of such wisdon? "Cooking with
    Pooh" perhaps.
    --
    Kent Brockman, multi-award winning anchor

  4. #4
    Chemo the Clown Guest

    Default Re: Cream Sauce Misgivings

    On Oct 3, 2:42*pm, "Christopher M." <nospam_flibb...@floo.com> wrote:
    > I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.
    >
    > I think sometimes cream sauces are just too sweet, and they need some pepper
    > to make them more savory.
    >
    > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)


    Good god...another revelation.

  5. #5
    merryb Guest

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    On Oct 3, 3:34*pm, "Kent Brockman" <bigche...@kbbl.com> wrote:
    > On *3-Oct-2011, "Christopher M." <nospam_flibb...@floo.com> wrote:
    >
    > > I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.

    >
    > Will you be compiling and publishing a book of such wisdon? * "Cooking with
    > Pooh" perhaps.
    > --
    > Kent Brockman, multi-award winning anchor


    Better than "Cooking with Poo"...

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    Dan Abel Guest

    Default Re: Cream Sauce Misgivings

    In article <j6daa7$mgc$[email protected]>,
    "Christopher M." <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.
    >
    > I think sometimes cream sauces are just too sweet, and they need some pepper
    > to make them more savory.


    I favor white pepper myself, just for the looks. Also, the tiniest
    amount of ground cayenne pepper adds some extra depth without adding any
    color.

    --
    Dan Abel
    Petaluma, California USA
    [email protected]

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    M. JL Esq. Guest

    Default Re: Cream Sauce Misgivings

    Christopher M. wrote:

    > I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.
    >
    > I think sometimes cream sauces are just too sweet, and they need some pepper
    > to make them more savory.
    >
    >
    > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
    >
    >


    If you start with a roux try using rice flour.

    Its a subtle but distinct difference.
    --
    JL

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    dsi1 Guest

    Default Re: Cream Sauce Misgivings

    On 10/3/2011 11:42 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
    > I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.
    >
    > I think sometimes cream sauces are just too sweet, and they need some pepper
    > to make them more savory.
    >
    >
    > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
    >
    >


    White gravy with pepper is mostly a Southern thing and biscuits and
    gravy is a popular breakfast down there. That's my understanding anyway.

    I go to a bakery thrift store every once in a while and white pepper
    gravy is always a tough sell. Most times, that'll be all that's left on
    the shelves. What a disappointment that is!

    In Hawaii, brown gravy is king and tons of it is dumped on rice every
    day. It's plays an in important role in two favorite dishes and it would
    be a disaster of the highest level if we ever ran out. Most of the gravy
    is made with a mix and my guess is that somebody is making a lot of
    money selling gravy to the natives. :-)

  9. #9
    Christopher M. Guest

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    "Dan Abel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]..
    > In article <j6daa7$mgc$[email protected]>,
    > "Christopher M." <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.
    >>
    >> I think sometimes cream sauces are just too sweet, and they need some
    >> pepper
    >> to make them more savory.

    >
    > I favor white pepper myself, just for the looks. Also, the tiniest
    > amount of ground cayenne pepper adds some extra depth without adding any
    > color.


    Tiniest is right.

    I once added 1/4 tsp of cayenne to a large bowl of macaroni salad. It was
    burning hot. I added an extra cup of mayonnaise and it was still hot.


    W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)



  10. #10
    Christopher M. Guest

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    "M. JL Esq." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:j6dgd4$8ck$[email protected]..
    > Christopher M. wrote:
    >
    >> I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.
    >>
    >> I think sometimes cream sauces are just too sweet, and they need some
    >> pepper to make them more savory.
    >>
    >>
    >> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

    >
    > If you start with a roux try using rice flour.
    >
    > Its a subtle but distinct difference.
    > --
    > JL


    Thanks. Good to know that.


    W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)



  11. #11
    Christopher M. Guest

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    "dsi1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4e8a4f40$0$30353$[email protected] .com...
    > On 10/3/2011 11:42 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
    >> I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.
    >>
    >> I think sometimes cream sauces are just too sweet, and they need some
    >> pepper
    >> to make them more savory.
    >>
    >>
    >> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
    >>
    >>

    >
    > White gravy with pepper is mostly a Southern thing and biscuits and gravy
    > is a popular breakfast down there. That's my understanding anyway.
    >
    > I go to a bakery thrift store every once in a while and white pepper gravy
    > is always a tough sell. Most times, that'll be all that's left on the
    > shelves. What a disappointment that is!
    >
    > In Hawaii, brown gravy is king and tons of it is dumped on rice every day.
    > It's plays an in important role in two favorite dishes and it would be a
    > disaster of the highest level if we ever ran out. Most of the gravy is
    > made with a mix and my guess is that somebody is making a lot of money
    > selling gravy to the natives. :-)


    I didn't know brown gravy was big in Hawaii. Interesting.


    W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)



  12. #12
    dsi1 Guest

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    On 10/3/2011 2:58 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
    > "dsi1"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:4e8a4f40$0$30353$[email protected] .com...
    >> On 10/3/2011 11:42 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
    >>> I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.
    >>>
    >>> I think sometimes cream sauces are just too sweet, and they need some
    >>> pepper
    >>> to make them more savory.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> White gravy with pepper is mostly a Southern thing and biscuits and gravy
    >> is a popular breakfast down there. That's my understanding anyway.
    >>
    >> I go to a bakery thrift store every once in a while and white pepper gravy
    >> is always a tough sell. Most times, that'll be all that's left on the
    >> shelves. What a disappointment that is!
    >>
    >> In Hawaii, brown gravy is king and tons of it is dumped on rice every day.
    >> It's plays an in important role in two favorite dishes and it would be a
    >> disaster of the highest level if we ever ran out. Most of the gravy is
    >> made with a mix and my guess is that somebody is making a lot of money
    >> selling gravy to the natives. :-)

    >
    > I didn't know brown gravy was big in Hawaii. Interesting.


    It's big alright. We might be the world's biggest consumers of brown gravy.

    http://www.hawaiimagazine.com/blogs/..._moco_Hawaii/2

    >
    >
    > W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
    >
    >



  13. #13
    notbob Guest

    Default Re: Cream Sauce Misgivings

    On 2011-10-04, dsi1 <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > It's big alright. We might be the world's biggest consumers of brown gravy.
    >
    > http://www.hawaiimagazine.com/blogs/..._moco_Hawaii/2


    Wow! Who knew? I didn't even know you were in HI, dsil.

    That loco moco thing looks and sounds delicious, all except for the
    rice. Yuk! What? You ppl got no potatoes in HI?

    As for the pro/cons between brown and white gravy, the white should be
    chicken stock and bacon grease based and include wht ppr.

    nb

  14. #14
    dsi1 Guest

    Default Re: Cream Sauce Misgivings

    On 10/3/2011 3:35 PM, notbob wrote:
    > On 2011-10-04, dsi1<[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> It's big alright. We might be the world's biggest consumers of brown gravy.
    >>
    >> http://www.hawaiimagazine.com/blogs/..._moco_Hawaii/2

    >
    > Wow! Who knew? I didn't even know you were in HI, dsil.
    >
    > That loco moco thing looks and sounds delicious, all except for the
    > rice. Yuk! What? You ppl got no potatoes in HI?


    The people here are crazy about rice. Some people will eat a loco moco
    with fried rice but that's going a little too far. My guess is that one
    of these with mashed potatoes would be very tasty. Unfortunately, it
    appears that this thought has never occurred to anyone in Hawaii. My
    guess is that the majority of people here suck at cooking potatoes. I
    sure do.

    >
    > As for the pro/cons between brown and white gravy, the white should be
    > chicken stock and bacon grease based and include wht ppr.


    I'd make country gravy more often but my wife doesn't like white gravy
    with flicks of pepper. OTOH, you can't make brown gravy without
    drippings and that's the problem with brown gravy for loco mocos - you
    need good drippings and how the hell can you get good drippings from a
    hamburger? Not to mention that once that burger is fried, it needs to go
    on the rice and you need to fry a egg fast. Nobody has time to make pan
    gravy. The truth is that only through a mix can we get the massive
    quantities of gravy that this island requires. That's the breaks.

    >
    > nb



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    Pico Rico Guest

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    "dsi1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:j6dn3b$4rq$[email protected]..
    > On 10/3/2011 2:58 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
    >> "dsi1"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:4e8a4f40$0$30353$[email protected] .com...
    >>> On 10/3/2011 11:42 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
    >>>> I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.
    >>>>
    >>>> I think sometimes cream sauces are just too sweet, and they need some
    >>>> pepper
    >>>> to make them more savory.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> White gravy with pepper is mostly a Southern thing and biscuits and
    >>> gravy
    >>> is a popular breakfast down there. That's my understanding anyway.
    >>>
    >>> I go to a bakery thrift store every once in a while and white pepper
    >>> gravy
    >>> is always a tough sell. Most times, that'll be all that's left on the
    >>> shelves. What a disappointment that is!
    >>>
    >>> In Hawaii, brown gravy is king and tons of it is dumped on rice every
    >>> day.
    >>> It's plays an in important role in two favorite dishes and it would be a
    >>> disaster of the highest level if we ever ran out. Most of the gravy is
    >>> made with a mix and my guess is that somebody is making a lot of money
    >>> selling gravy to the natives. :-)

    >>
    >> I didn't know brown gravy was big in Hawaii. Interesting.

    >
    > It's big alright. We might be the world's biggest consumers of brown
    > gravy.
    >
    > http://www.hawaiimagazine.com/blogs/..._moco_Hawaii/2
    >


    I'll see you, and raise you . . .

    http://mylastbite.wordpress.com/2009/03/31/animal11/



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    dsi1 Guest

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    On 10/3/2011 4:01 PM, Pico Rico wrote:
    > "dsi1"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:j6dn3b$4rq$[email protected]..
    >> On 10/3/2011 2:58 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
    >>> "dsi1"<[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:4e8a4f40$0$30353$[email protected] .com...
    >>>> On 10/3/2011 11:42 AM, Christopher M. wrote:
    >>>>> I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I think sometimes cream sauces are just too sweet, and they need some
    >>>>> pepper
    >>>>> to make them more savory.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> White gravy with pepper is mostly a Southern thing and biscuits and
    >>>> gravy
    >>>> is a popular breakfast down there. That's my understanding anyway.
    >>>>
    >>>> I go to a bakery thrift store every once in a while and white pepper
    >>>> gravy
    >>>> is always a tough sell. Most times, that'll be all that's left on the
    >>>> shelves. What a disappointment that is!
    >>>>
    >>>> In Hawaii, brown gravy is king and tons of it is dumped on rice every
    >>>> day.
    >>>> It's plays an in important role in two favorite dishes and it would be a
    >>>> disaster of the highest level if we ever ran out. Most of the gravy is
    >>>> made with a mix and my guess is that somebody is making a lot of money
    >>>> selling gravy to the natives. :-)
    >>>
    >>> I didn't know brown gravy was big in Hawaii. Interesting.

    >>
    >> It's big alright. We might be the world's biggest consumers of brown
    >> gravy.
    >>
    >> http://www.hawaiimagazine.com/blogs/..._moco_Hawaii/2
    >>

    >
    > I'll see you, and raise you . . .
    >
    > http://mylastbite.wordpress.com/2009/03/31/animal11/


    That's simply amazing. It's way too high class for me. To tell you the
    truth, I'm not a fan of Spam in a loco moco. The way I'd like it would
    be a small bed of rice with a smallish burger cooked med. rare with one
    fried egg and then a ton of brown gravy. Maybe garnish it on the top and
    sides with kim chee. Don't forget the Tabasco! Oddly enough, I might be
    eating one of these in a few minutes. Thanks for the entertaining link.


  17. #17
    sf Guest

    Default Re: Cream Sauce Misgivings

    On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:42:41 -0400, "Christopher M."
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.
    >
    > I think sometimes cream sauces are just too sweet, and they need some pepper
    > to make them more savory.
    >

    What do you do to cream sauces to make them sweet????

    --

    You are what you eat, so avoid fruitcake and nuts.

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    projectile vomit chick Guest

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    On Oct 3, 7:06*pm, dsi1 <d...@usenet-news.net> wrote:
    >
    > White gravy with pepper is mostly a Southern thing and biscuits and
    > gravy is a popular breakfast down there. That's my understanding anyway.


    It's popular in Nebraska, too.

    >
    > I go to a bakery thrift store every once in a while and white pepper
    > gravy is always a tough sell. Most times, that'll be all that's left on
    > the shelves. What a disappointment that is!


    I think white pepper is a waste of time.

    >
    > In Hawaii, brown gravy is king and tons of it is dumped on rice every
    > day. It's plays an in important role in two favorite dishes and it would
    > be a disaster of the highest level if we ever ran out. Most of the gravy
    > is made with a mix and my guess is that somebody is making a lot of
    > money selling gravy to the natives. :-)


    I did not know that, interesting.

  19. #19
    Melba's Jammin' Guest

    Default Re: Cream Sauce Misgivings

    In article <j6daa7$mgc$[email protected]>,
    "Christopher M." <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I think black pepper and white gravy go great together.
    >
    > I think sometimes cream sauces are just too sweet, and they need some pepper
    > to make them more savory.


    Okay.
    --
    Barb,
    http://web.me.com/barbschaller September 5, 2011

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    Melba's Jammin' Guest

    Default Re: Cream Sauce Misgivings

    In article
    <[email protected]>,
    projectile vomit chick <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Oct 3, 7:06*pm, dsi1 <d...@usenet-news.net> wrote:


    > > I go to a bakery thrift store every once in a while and white pepper
    > > gravy is always a tough sell. Most times, that'll be all that's left on
    > > the shelves. What a disappointment that is!

    >
    > I think white pepper is a waste of time.


    Why?
    --
    Barb,
    http://web.me.com/barbschaller September 5, 2011

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